/system writable with s-on ; ClockWorkMod compatibilty with Eclair - Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a WildFire with original Eclair/2.1 HBOOT/0.80 S-ON RADIO/3.35.15
Instead of upgrade to Froyo, downgrade HBOOT, hack HBOOT with Revolutionary and install ClockWork,
I think I will do the old way with just Unrevoked 3.14 (then ClockWorkMod 2.5.0.7, or custom to 5.0.2.x).
And keeping S-ON could be safier if I want to go back and running original ROM.
But a few questions before starting modding :
- I search threads but I don't understand very well if original /system is writable even when phone is S-ON
by "Install zip from sdcard" from ClockWorkMod (with custom updater-script, etc...) ? At least Unrevoked
seems to be able to write su and superuser.apk
- is it the same way with Cyanogen7, or is this ROM ignoring S-ON flag (then /system writable with root
and|or remount) ?
- can I make backup and restore of original HTC/Eclair with ClockWorkMod 5.x ?
- is radio 3.35.20.10 fully compatible with original HTC/Eclair ?
Thanks in advance for any answer.

- /system is writeable on remount. You will be able to install any custom Zip files using the Install Zip from SDCard feature withou any issues. Only, you will not be able to copy-paste files using a file manager to /system using S-ON. (It will revert back after a reboot)
- Yes you should be able to take a Nandroid backup of your original ROM using 5.0.2.0 without any issues.
- Yes, radio 3.35.20.10 is compatible. BUT, assuming you are using a GSM Wildfire A3333 without any special frequencies like 850MHz.

- /system is writeable on remount.
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Not currently, with S-ON/Eclair. So I suppose you talk about Cyanogen, or at ClockWorkMod level.
You will be able to install any custom Zip files using the Install Zip from SDCard feature without any issues.
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Ok, thanks.
Only, you will not be able to copy-paste files using a file manager to /system using S-ON (it will revert back after a reboot)
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NB: with S-ON/Eclair, write is not possible at all (makes an error).
- Yes you should be able to take a Nandroid backup of your original ROM using 5.0.2.0 without any issues.
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And restoring, the most important.
- Yes, radio 3.35.20.10 is compatible. BUT, assuming you are using a GSM Wildfire A3333 without any special frequencies like 850MHz.
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I think it's A3333 in France.
Thanks for your responses.
I understand that writing from ClockWorkMod, restoring and radio will be almost Ok ; so I will start modding soon.

Yes, what I meant was at the Clockworkmod level, after you mount /system (Which I stated as "remount" mistakenly). Sorry for the ambiguity.

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[Q] HTC wildfire S-off next steps

Hi guys,
Sorry for the stupid question but I am new to those kind of things and get a bit confused.
I managed to get my HTC Wildfire S-OFF'd
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 27 2010,17:49:10
Can I downgrade this in order to get it rooted and If I can, could you please give me directions how to achieve that.
Thanks in advance
teo.boev said:
Hi guys,
Sorry for the stupid question but I am new to those kind of things and get a bit confused.
I managed to get my HTC Wildfire S-OFF'd
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 27 2010,17:49:10
Can I downgrade this in order to get it rooted and If I can, could you please give me directions how to achieve that.
Thanks in advance
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You need to flash a recovery(search the development thread for clockworkmod recovery)
Flash this recovery via fastboot(search the whole forum for a guide)
And then flash a ROM(or other things) of your choice via the recovery menu.
Hope this helps
Personally, I downgraded by flashing a stock 2.1 RUU, then used unrevoked 3.2 to root it and install clockworkmod.
Then just flashed a cyanogen nightly (#57). Although you can choose whatever rom you want.
I have tried with unrevoked 3 to root the phone, but at some point i got the following message:
Validation error: Backup CID is missing
any idea how to fix that?
teo.boev said:
I have tried with unrevoked 3 to root the phone, but at some point i got the following message:
Validation error: Backup CID is missing
any idea how to fix that?
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Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
3xeno said:
Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
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U can also use this i used this to root my Wildfire , just now
Code:
http://www.multiupload.com/K6RAGILSS3
When i flash unrevoked 2.2 after s-off and downgrade to 2.1 is had the same problem. I don't know why but unrevoked 3.14 worked fine. For me newer is not always better.
3xeno said:
Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
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once S-OFF, downgrading and then rooting is a lengthier process. As already stated in the post #2, after S-OFF just flash a recovery from the fast boot menu and thats all ur phone is rooted.
get the PC49IMG.ZIP file and the process from here. (most painless and secure algorithm)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12188132&postcount=15
how u S-OFF ur phone ? by using XTC clip ?
mysql2779 said:
how u S-OFF ur phone ? by using XTC clip ?
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Yes, only known way till now.
And where I get the XTC-clip?
My HBOOT 1.01.0002 with S-ON, I just want rooted my device...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
lumina_1 said:
And where I get the XTC-clip?
My HBOOT 1.01.0002 with S-ON, I just want rooted my device...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Buy it.
Also learn to search.
Alright. I think I'm gonna get my device S-OFF soon...
So all I have to do is
1. Flash to 2.1 RUU
2. Flash a recovery via fastboot
3. Flash a new ROM
That is all right?
clon12 said:
Alright. I think I'm gonna get my device S-OFF soon...
So all I have to do is
1. Flash to 2.1 RUU
2. Flash a recovery via fastboot
3. Flash a new ROM
That is all right?
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If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
3xeno said:
If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
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I've been reading alot about this but I don't geddit. Everyone says that with hboot 1.01.0002 you can't get s-off without using the xtc clip. Are you saying you just downgraded to Android 2.1 then flashed a custom ROM
almightybunghole said:
I've been reading alot about this but I don't geddit. Everyone says that with hboot 1.01.0002 you can't get s-off without using the xtc clip. Are you saying you just downgraded to Android 2.1 then flashed a custom ROM
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What you have heard is false. HBoot 1.01x requires XTC Clip to get S-OFF, and, only then can it be downgraded and rooted.
Rooted ROM
3xeno said:
If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
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If i used XTC clip to S-OFF a wildfire, is it then possible to restore a rooted ROM? Or do i need to root the phone, then when i load any ROM it is rooted, because root is at a lower level?
Is root access something which is stored in the operating system or some lower level?
Zavel said:
If i used XTC clip to S-OFF a wildfire, is it then possible to restore a rooted ROM? Or do i need to root the phone, then when i load any ROM it is rooted, because root is at a lower level?
Is root access something which is stored in the operating system or some lower level?
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Root is given by the app called Superuser. Just as in linux, every program that wants to do something that needs root rights, has to ask for it. In android that permission is "tunneld" by the superuser, which asks you if you want to grant an app root access, and then gives it to that app with your permission. But of course, the only way that superuser can grant root access, is when it is propperly installed, and has some files in the /system folder. Which is not possible without root permissions
So: if you are s-off, you can flash a recovery image trough fastboot (working with unrevoked gives you the custom recovery right away) by the adb command "flastboot flash recovery " (google for "cyanogenmod wiki flastboot" if you are planning it, it is really nice explaned). Trough that recovery you can apply some kind of an "update.zip", which installes the right superuserfiles on your system anx changes nothing else. Notice me if you want those files, I know where to find them here on xda.
From that moment on, when an app asks for root permission, you get a popup from the superuser app to ask if you really want to grant that app such permissions or not: if yes, the app has root access now!
This is all based on my experience with the stock ROM, don't know how the process works in CM or wildpuzzle.
Erwin
Edit: and if you want to delete or modify rom specific things (like htc stock app), you can connect your phone to your computer, mount your system as read/write by the command "adb remount" and then delete it trough adb commands. No need to go trough recovery for this.
Perhaps the same is possible if you have a file manager that can handle rooted phones, but not sure about that.

AmonRA install

Hi
I have a PVT4 Desire and would like to do a back-up before i s-off (which cwm doesn't do hence installing AmonRA) so i can install a custom rom. I've already rooted it so i can't use unrevoked to flash AmonRA as it says the firmware is too new. Also i've tried using terminal emulator to flash the recovery but it says flash_image:not found.
How else can i flash AmonRA?
Here is a useful how to:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-flash-a-new-recovery-image-if-you-are-already-rooted/
aamir007 said:
Hi
I have a PVT4 Desire and would like to do a back-up before i s-off (which cwm doesn't do hence installing AmonRA) so i can install a custom rom. I've already rooted it so i can't use unrevoked to flash AmonRA as it says the firmware is too new. Also i've tried using terminal emulator to flash the recovery but it says flash_image:not found.
How else can i flash AmonRA?
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use the attached update.zip as a fake flash method, it is amonra recovery 1.7.0.5. just put it on ur sd card.
push vol down+power, go into recovery and when you see the triangle push vol up+power and then you ll select flash update.zip, it will take you to amonra recovery
How many times did you run unrevoked? Sometimes you have to run it a few times before it will work.
have you tried to push it using the android flasher utility...ill find the link for it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794638&highlight=android+flasher+utility
there you go mate..dont know if it works for pvt-4 ...so simple to use i used it to get amon ra because i had the same problems with unrevoked
That will not work because he is S-ON
@MatDrOiD i've tried using that method but it says flash_image: not found.
@thanito thanks for the file but when i went in to recovery and did apply sdcard:update.zip or install zip from sd card it stayed on CWM and didn't change to AmonRA.
@bailz2506 i haven't s-off'd yet i need to make a nandroid back-up first just in case before i can and CWM won't do it for the PVT4 Desire.
Isn't there a PC36IMG.zip for AmonRa for the Desire like there is with the other devices so i can do it the bootloader way?
hi mate,
at the beginning meet same problem... phone rooted but unable to do nand backup
E:misc error file doesn't exist... blablabla
i solved this by rerooting the phone with this cmw3.21 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22152187/reflash_package3.21.exe
once done, i succesfully made a nanbck.
first i s-OFFed the devices and afterwards flash the recovery with fastboot to install Ar 2.0.1
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22152187/recovery-RA-desire-v2.0.1.img
hope this help sorting this
@fragargon nope that didn't work,it still stayed on the same CWM and didn't differ.
@aamir007: Do you have another update.zip file in your sd card?
Did you flash CWM through rom manager?
If so try to delete the file first and copy the one i attached you in sd root.
T.
Oh,man!you can use the pb99img.zip into hboot,it will let you to update
zk7513153 said:
Oh,man!you can use the pb99img.zip into hboot,it will let you to update
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Don't say things that have nothing to do with this.
What you could do is return to stock. Then run Unrevoked again.
@Thanito I tried it again and deleted the existing one but still no luck
@Lennyz1988 Guess i'll have to do that. Is there any RUU i should avoid using that will update my hboot and make it unrootable. I've made a goldcard so i shouldn't have any problems flashing the RUUs.
hi aamir007,
amazing that didn't work, it was working and got a pvt4 also.
assuming that you are still on cmw (don't know your version) could you try this one
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22152187/recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.8-bravo.img
just launch unrevoked select first the menu and custom recovery (browse to the one downloaded) make sure that "disable security on phone is checked)
should get sorted of this, it was for me.
about RRu depends the rom you have settings/about phone/software you could see all current version rom and radio running on your phone which matter for rru
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
hope this help
@fragargon I tried it again and this time UnRevoked said is the firmware too new like it does when i try to use it to flash AmonRA, and still on CWM 2.5.0.7.
So i'm going to flash an RUU do i need to flash the same Baseband or lower to make sure its still rootable and the hboot doesn't change.
aamir007 said:
@fragargon I tried it again and this time UnRevoked said is the firmware too new like it does when i try to use it to flash AmonRA
So i'm going to flash an RUU do i need to flash the same Baseband or lower to make sure its still rootable and the hboot doesn't change.
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Try to use unrevoked 3.2 (also integrate amonra recovery) for rooting:
http://megaupload.com/?d=9T9JRA3U
The ruu you flash should fit to baseband.
No warranty for any damage!
For a nandroid backup do you need S-OFF?
A friend has a PVT-4 and is using CWM and his backs up fine but he said you need to S-OFF first.
aamir007 said:
For a nandroid backup do you need S-OFF?
A friend has a PVT-4 and is using CWM and his backs up fine but he said you need to S-OFF first.
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You can nandroid backup and restore without s-off.
Solved my problem, i S-Off'ed and installed the AlphaRev CWM during the process and i can preform a nandroid back-up perfectly fine

[Q] unrevoked unrooted my desire

Hi there,
A year ago or so i got a desire, rooted it with unrevoked (amazing app, thanks to the developers), flashed clockworkmod 2.0.5.X (can't remember) and leedroid's 2.5.0 (after playing around with some others). However, a few months ago it started freezing without reason. Supposedly, a reformat of the sd card would fix that. Therefore, I backed up, installed latest Clockworkmod (5.0.2, with rom manager RM) and used RM to format the sd resulting in an error. When I booted in recovery I realized I already have S-ON and clockworkmod 2.0.5 (altough RM keep saying me i have 5.0.2). After that I used unrevoked 3.32 in an attempt to fix all that mess. However, the only thing I got was to have an unrooted desire!!!
My actual config is:
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.80.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.08
Mar 29 2010, 21:34:33
I have tried using unrevoked again but nothing. Alphrev to raise the hboot version but my phone is actually unrooted. I don't know what to do, any help please!?!
Thanks in advance and apologies for the long speech
Do you have a custom ROM? then you have root. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of what "root" means.
1) You only need to run unrevoked on the stock 2.2 Froyo ROM if you would like to have that rooted.
2) ROM Manager sucks arse harder than a jet engine on full power. Do not use it, do everything manually through recovery
3) You are rooted, if your phone is giving you issues just do a full wipe and re-flash the ROM.
Full wipe:
/mounts & storage
> format boot
> format data
> format cache
> format system
> format sd-ext (if available)
If you would like to flash a different recovery, it is best to do it through Fastboot. For that, you need to be S-OFF. You have 2 options here.
1) Use the Alpharev live CD to S-OFF
2) Create a goldcard, use the latest WWE RUU to update your phone and it's bootloader, then use revolutionary
Then flash recovery.
You can find lots of help on my guide... it's not that easy to miss...
Hi bortak, thanks for the quick response!!
I'm really kinda newbie in these things. Yeah, i have a custom rom and yes, I was rooted. However, I do really think I am unrooted because titanium backup (through superuser app that comes with leedroid's rom) says at startup that I'm not rooted. Is there any other way to know for sure?
As you suggest, I thought on alpharev to s-off an then flash an updated recovery+rom. But I can't if unrooted (I don't know if that matters but my hboot is 0.80).
Is the goldcard+WWE RUU+revolutionary safe in my case?
Thanks a lot!
bortak said:
Do you have a custom ROM? then you have root. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of what "root" means.
1) You only need to run unrevoked on the stock 2.2 Froyo ROM if you would like to have that rooted.
2) ROM Manager sucks arse harder than a jet engine on full power. Do not use it, do everything manually through recovery
3) You are rooted, if your phone is giving you issues just do a full wipe and re-flash the ROM.
Full wipe:
/mounts & storage
> format boot
> format data
> format cache
> format system
> format sd-ext (if available)
If you would like to flash a different recovery, it is best to do it through Fastboot. For that, you need to be S-OFF. You have 2 options here.
1) Use the Alpharev live CD to S-OFF
2) Create a goldcard, use the latest WWE RUU to update your phone and it's bootloader, then use revolutionary
Then flash recovery.
You can find lots of help on my guide... it's not that easy to miss...
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bortak I've read in your guide (amazing, thanks in the name of humankind ) and found that revolutionary only supports hboots 0.93.0001 and 1.02.0001 but mine is 0.80.0000.
Visionary is useful in case of not having a recovery, but I have clockworkmod 2.0.5. Is there any way to root my desire again so I can use alpharev to get s-off?
With s-off I could install an updated CWM so I can format the sd or install an stock RUU to get the phone to service center, am I right?
Thanks!!!
Dear coriscow
You may follow the below steps:
1. Download and Instal the official Gingerbread update for Desire which is available in developer.htc.com
2. Root the device using Unrevoked method
3. Flash a custom ROM (if you wish)
I hope it will solve your issue.
Thanks-
Shuprio
shuprio said:
Dear coriscow
You may follow the below steps:
1. Download and Instal the official Gingerbread update for Desire which is available in developer.htc.com
2. Root the device using Unrevoked method
3. Flash a custom ROM (if you wish)
I hope it will solve your issue.
Thanks-
Shuprio
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Shuprio I was about to reflash leedroid 2.5 again (formating sdcard and sd-ext). But I'll do as you say, thanks.
One thing, by 'the official Gingerbread update for Desire' you mean an WWE RUU, right?? As my phone has Clockworkmod but S-ON and is unrooted. However, yesterday I could install a new radio and RIL so I think it'll let me flash a ROM. If not (and i don't get a brick ) I think I'll go with the goldcard
Thanks!!
coriscow said:
Shuprio I was about to reflash leedroid 2.5 again (formating sdcard and sd-ext). But I'll do as you say, thanks.
One thing, by 'the official Gingerbread update for Desire' you mean an WWE RUU, right?? As my phone has Clockworkmod but S-ON and is unrooted. However, yesterday I could install a new radio and RIL so I think it'll let me flash a ROM. If not (and i don't get a brick ) I think I'll go with the goldcard
Thanks!!
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Yes Coriscow. It is the RUU. Best of luck! Hope everything will be fine.
Thanks-
Shuprio
Just flash a rooted stock Rom or restore your first nandroid.
Fyi if you run unrevoked, it messes up the super user application so you have to clear data on it to get it working again
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
rootSU said:
Just flash a rooted stock Rom or restore your first nandroid.
Fyi if you run unrevoked, it messes up the super user application so you have to clear data on it to get it working again
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
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rootSU that's it, thanks!
My main concern was that the phone was (seemed to be) unrooted and unrevoked could not change that. However wiping the data through the recovery did it
Now I will try to fix all the other thins like flashing a RUU to update the HBOOT. If so use revolutionary
Thanks you all, i'll keep you posted as I do thing
I did it!!! At this point I'm S-OFF (I never was), updated hboot, rooted (I already was but, as rootsu said, unrevoked messed something up), fresh leedriod install and the problem about the phone freezeing randomly seems to have disappeared after a full sd and sdext format. Thank you all for the help, the guides, and so and so

Desire Bravo. I have s-off want to root (or flash runnyRom)

Hello guys, I bought an HTC Desire Bravo from ebay. It is already S-OFF but the rom is not rooted. I want to either root the current rom or even better install runnyRom. I tried unrevoked and I get a "CID is missing" error. From what I read it has to do with my phone being already s-off.
Right now it has Android 2.2 running. So what can I do to install runny rom? Thanks in advance.
Wrong section dude, post this on Q&A.
sthbr82 said:
Wrong section dude, post this on Q&A.
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Sorry. If some administrator can move it...please do.
try http://unlockroot.com/
try this http://revolutionary.io/
sthbr82 said:
Wrong section dude, post this on Q&A.
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This is Q&A. Make sure YOU know where u r before having a go at others "dude"! Lol. Go to stickies and read bortaks guide
Sent from my HTC Desire
panagath said:
Hello guys, I bought an HTC Desire Bravo from ebay. It is already S-OFF but the rom is not rooted. I want to either root the current rom or even better install runnyRom. I tried unrevoked and I get a "CID is missing" error. From what I read it has to do with my phone being already s-off.
Right now it has Android 2.2 running. So what can I do to install runny rom? Thanks in advance.
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U r already s-off... Hope u r sure about that... Coz that means u r already rooted...
To flash runny Rom u vll need a touch recovery.... I would recommend 4ext recovery.... Link in my signature...
Also partition ur sd card... 1gb should be enough... Do it by 4ext recovery...
akhillad said:
U r already s-off... Hope u r sure about that... Coz that means u r already rooted...
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s-off and rooted are actually slightly different. you can be s-off but not rooted as stated in the OP
s-off fully disables nand security, rooted means you have root privileges
@panagath
do you have a custom recovery installed? (power off your phone, then power and vol-down, wait a little then select recovery).
if not install a recovery, i would recommend 4ext as above. flash the recovery.img through fastboot (google how to install drivers)
to root your current rom (if you want to install something like titanium backup and transfer apps across to new rom), flash the superuser zip in recovery from revolutionary page.
to flash a different rom, boot into recovery, wipe everything and flash the rom.zip. check if you require a different hboot and/or an ext partition on your sd card (backup everything to PC first... partition with 4ext or gparted).
eddiehk6 said:
s-off and rooted are actually slightly different. you can be s-off but not rooted as stated in the OP
s-off fully disables nand security, rooted means you have root privileges
@panagath
do you have a custom recovery installed? (power off your phone, then power and vol-down, wait a little then select recovery).
if not install a recovery, i would recommend 4ext as above. flash it through fastboot (google how to install drivers) or the app
to root your current rom (if you want to install something like titanium backup and transfer apps across to new rom), flash the superuser zip in recovery from revolutionary page.
to flash a different rom, boot into recovery, wipe everything and flash the rom.zip. check if you require a different hboot and/or an ext partition on your sd card (backup everything to PC first... partition with 4ext or gparted).
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Exactly more info in bortaks guide (stickies) go down too Number 11 in guide.
Sent from my HTC Desire
eddiehk6 said:
s-off and rooted are actually slightly different. you can be s-off but not rooted as stated in the OP
s-off fully disables nand security, rooted means you have root privileges
@panagath
do you have a custom recovery installed? (power off your phone, then power and vol-down, wait a little then select recovery).
if not install a recovery, i would recommend 4ext as above. flash the recovery.img through fastboot (google how to install drivers)
to root your current rom (if you want to install something like titanium backup and transfer apps across to new rom), flash the superuser zip in recovery from revolutionary page.
to flash a different rom, boot into recovery, wipe everything and flash the rom.zip. check if you require a different hboot and/or an ext partition on your sd card (backup everything to PC first... partition with 4ext or gparted).
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Thanks for the info....
Never knew this fact...

[q] s-off reroot...

Last August I rooted my DHD using AAHK. No problems for a complete beginner. Had things running sweet. 4ext. tried a number of different roms. flashed radios and RILs; again, no probs. but then for some reason I returned to stock using RUU_Ace_H3G_UK_1.37.771.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_158897_signed.exe - still running this now.
I have S-OFF and now want to REROOT!
Is there a guide to Rerooting that I can follow or can someone give me the basic steps as I don't want to mess things up, it was a while ago since I first rooted the DHD.
1more thing... my DHD was locked to 3-UK before root. Now, I can only use Virgin, Orange, GiffGaff, T-mobile, Tesco, but not 3. this bugs! Anyone got any ideas as to why this is?
Failing that... Rerooting Toot using AAHK (if poss.) would be great cos I have a laptop dedicated/configured for AAHK already.
any HELP will be appreciated - TANX!
jay-walker said:
Last August I rooted my DHD using AAHK. No problems for a complete beginner. Had things running sweet. 4ext. tried a number of different roms. flashed radios and RILs; again, no probs. but then for some reason I returned to stock using RUU_Ace_H3G_UK_1.37.771.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_158897_signed.exe - still running this now.
I have S-OFF and now want to REROOT!
Is there a guide to Rerooting that I can follow or can someone give me the basic steps as I don't want to mess things up, it was a while ago since I first rooted the DHD.
1more thing... my DHD was locked to 3-UK before root. Now, I can only use Virgin, Orange, GiffGaff, T-mobile, Tesco, but not 3. this bugs! Anyone got any ideas as to why this is?
Failing that... Rerooting Toot using AAHK (if poss.) would be great cos I have a laptop dedicated/configured for AAHK already.
any HELP will be appreciated - TANX!
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You don't need AAHK if you're still S-Off. If I remember correctly, to root your current ROM, just push a su manager app (like Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk) and a su binary. Alternatively, if you want to flash a custom ROM, fastboot flash a recovery img and flash a ROM from there.
ssooo bananagranol...
bananagranola said:
You don't need AAHK if you're still S-Off. If I remember correctly, to root your current ROM, just push a su manager app (like Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk) and a su binary. Alternatively, if you want to flash a custom ROM, fastboot flash a recovery img and flash a ROM from there.
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tanx for the speedy reply... so I can install 4ext (my fav) then I'm good to go with new roms again - you sure?
and what about Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk and su binary - from...? will this give me more access to customise.
Srry, still a noob, i know!
jay-walker said:
tanx for the speedy reply... so I can install 4ext (my fav) then I'm good to go with new roms again - you sure?
and what about Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk and su binary - from...? will this give me more access to customise.
Srry, still a noob, i know!
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You need to get the 4ext img and fastboot flash it, not just install from apk. More detailed instructions are in the thread linked in my signature. Look in the guide in post #7, bottom of page 9, "S-Off no recovery" section.
You need to search for the apk and su binary; I don't have copies. It will only root your current ROM with no customization. If you're going to fastboot flash 4ext you don't need to bother with this, since any ROM you flash from recovery will overwrite your current ROM with the apk and su binary.
OK - kewl!
bananagranola said:
You need to get the 4ext img and fastboot flash it, not just install from apk. More detailed instructions are in the thread linked in my signature. Look in the guide in post #7, bottom of page 9, "S-Off no recovery" section.
You need to search for the apk and su binary; I don't have copies. It will only root your current ROM with no customization. If you're going to fastboot flash 4ext you don't need to bother with this, since any ROM you flash from recovery will overwrite your current ROM with the apk and su binary.
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I was just over at Ace Think Tank, Page#1, post#7 Noob Starter Guide. need a recap!
but no - THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR - BRILLIANT - THANK YOU!!!
GuyInTheCorner's ROOTING WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY S-OFF
jay-walker said:
I was just over at Ace Think Tank, Page#1, post#7 Noob Starter Guide. need a recap!
but no - THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR - BRILLIANT - THANK YOU!!!
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For anyone else interested in S-OFF REROOT...
GuyInTheCorner gives instructions on how to do this... ROOTING WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY S-OFF (with no custom recovery)
So if you're already S-OFF (either HTC DEV or AAHK [Ace Hack Kit]) but you're not rooted, don't despair! Its a relatively easy fix, all you need is a little time. . Now you'll have to have a card reader for this part. Using a card reader, place a PD198IMG.zip on the root of your SD Card (this means directly onto the SD Card, NOT IN A FOLDER) that contains a custom recovery. What you want to do now is to boot into HBOOT (Volume up+Power). Once you've done that it will automatically try to detect a PD198IMG.zip (which is already on your SD Card). It will flash it and you'll have yourself a custom recovery. Now using the volume buttons to navigate up and down respectively navigate to the RECOVERY option and press the power button. Now you're in your custom recovery, open the mounts section and mount your SD Card to your PC. Now download a SuperUser.zip and flash it in recovery. Congrats! You've flashed a custom recovery and are now rooted! Enjoy
If I helped, hit that thanks button!
here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37500024&postcount=1349
jay-walker said:
So if you're already S-OFF (either HTC DEV or AAHK [Ace Hack Kit]) but you're not rooted, don't despair!
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You cannot be S-Off with HTCDEV.
HTCDEV...
bananagranola said:
You cannot be S-Off with HTCDEV.
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banana g.... point taken!
I didn't use HTCDEV to unlock the bootloader I used AAHK to achieve S-OFF! So, I should be OK with the procedure you and GuyInTheCorner refer to - yeah?
Achieving root is easy. The hard stuff is to get S-OFF...
If you have unlocked the bootloader or S-OFF'ed, then flash SU in CWM or 4ext and that's it.
glevitan said:
Achieving root is easy. The hard stuff is to get S-OFF...
If you have unlocked the bootloader or S-OFF'ed, then flash SU in CWM or 4ext and that's it.
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easier said than done when i can't get 4ext flashed. eerrrw
Question: how to fastboot flash 4ext as i'm having no success from the instructions given earlier.
i've tried both PD198IMG.ZIP and PD98IMG.ZIP in the root of sd card but to no avail. any other way to get 4ext flashed? or am i being a complete noob?
in addition... my HBOOT screen
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85.007
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 11 2010, 12:47:02
HBOOT
etc, etc,
jay-walker said:
easier said than done when i can't get 4ext flashed. eerrrw
Question: how to fastboot flash 4ext as i'm having no success from the instructions given earlier.
i've tried both PD198IMG.ZIP and PD98IMG.ZIP in the root of sd card but to no avail. any other way to get 4ext flashed? or am i being a complete noob?
in addition... my HBOOT screen
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85.007
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 11 2010, 12:47:02
HBOOT
etc, etc,
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if your phone is booting normally, use the 4ext updater. If not flash CWM first and then a custom rom. From the android UI use 4ext updater.
use 4ext updater...
glevitan said:
if your phone is booting normally, use the 4ext updater. If not flash CWM first and then a custom rom. From the android UI .
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tried it all but to no avail. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
so how do I flash CWM or install SuperUser?
jay-walker said:
tried it all but to no avail. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
so how do I install SuperUser - anyone?
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What happened? Did you try to fastboot flash a recovery.img? That should work as long as you're S-Off.
To install Superuser on a working ROM, find a Superuser.apk and a su binary. adb push the Superuser.apk to /system/app and the su binary to .../xbin, I think? There are guides around XDA.
What happened?
bananagranola said:
What happened? Did you try to fastboot flash a recovery.img? That should work as long as you're S-Off.
To install Superuser on a working ROM, find a Superuser.apk and a su binary. adb push the Superuser.apk to /system/app and the su binary to .../xbin, I think? There are guides around XDA.
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I tried to fastboot flash 4ext by placing the 4ext/recovery zip renamed to PD198IMG.ZIP in the root path of the SDcard then vol-down&power but hboot does not pick it up.
I then tried the 4ext updater but there were errors; so I don't know what's happening - I've almost given up and thinking about updating from FROYO to GingerBread OTA as a last resort and be done with that.
I read that S-OFF should be easy to root but that's not what I'm finding.
there is not enough information about unroot by returning to stock then rerooting for me to feel confident about doing it correctly so I might just go GingerBread - period!
jay-walker said:
I tried to fastboot flash 4ext by placing the 4ext/recovery zip renamed to PD198IMG.ZIP in the root path of the SDcard then vol-down&power but hboot does not pick it up.
I then tried the 4ext updater but there were errors; so I don't know what's happening - I've almost given up and thinking about updating from FROYO to GingerBread OTA as a last resort and be done with that.
I read that S-OFF should be easy to root but that's not what I'm finding.
there is not enough information about unroot by returning to stock then rerooting for me to feel confident about doing it correctly so I might just go GingerBread - period!
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ok, first it is PD98IMG.zip and not PD198IMG and you have an apk that can be downloaded from here: http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk
You just install it using a file manager and the run it. Download the lastest recovery, flash it from there and you are done.
glevitan said:
ok, first it is PD98IMG.zip and not PD198IMG and you have an apk that can be downloaded from here: http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk
You just install it using a file manager and the run it. Download the lastest recovery, flash it from there and you are done.
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I don't think his ROM is rooted right now. Is that still possible?
bananagranola said:
I don't think his ROM is rooted right now. Is that still possible?
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Yeah, that is one of the possiblities. However, he should be able to flash CWM in fastboot, SU and then flash 4ext as he is S-OFF.

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