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Ics/samsung/iPhone4s

I think that samsung should pull out all the stops on ICS and let it loose to as many new devices that can support it as possible. Apple will give there phone the latest updates as long as the hard ware can handle it. Sammy in particular should give ICS quickly to compete with iPhones new iOs. Also to make up for the forever long wait we had to get this device. Ya they take forever but they must know its a problem and one would think there guys in samsung's "think tank" would let the company know where its lacking. Samsung's goal after all is to sell tons of phones and keep the customer happy as a fat kid at a ice cream truck ( yes there is a little pun in the ice cream comment )

xD ... Sad to say it... But the words samsung and update shouldn't be used together... Were already overdue on that LOS patch, original epic users are still on froyo as will...
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ALL_D4Y_YES_SIR said:
xD ... Sad to say it... But the words samsung and update shouldn't be used together... Were already overdue on that LOS patch, original epic users are still on froyo as will...
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Epic got GingerBread like 5 days ago, LOL.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...update-rolling-out-can-be-manually-installed/

I put my phone under my pillow at night so the tooth fairy will bring ICS to me there is a tooth fairy right?!

cordell12 said:
Epic got GingerBread like 5 days ago, LOL.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...update-rolling-out-can-be-manually-installed/
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...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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LordLugard said:
...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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no it does not

we are all hoping that Samsung tries to stick it to apple and dominate the US market similar to Nokia in the international market. I am as I think we all are that Samsung realizes that establishing support for top tier devices at minimum for 12th Months is what it is going to take. Now I say that we HOPE that they realize that, not saying they will. If that is the case, hopefully the community is strong enough to carry them otherwise for me its one and done on samsung.
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...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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bluefire808 said:
no it does not
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isn't samsung now one of the google partners for timely updates? a bunch of manufacturers I think signed a deal with them saying they would release updates within 18 months of google releasing it(HTC, LG and others were also included). But once they release it, then the carriers usually take their sweet ass time pushing it out to us. from what I hear they gave sprint the los fix a while ago. It's sprint that's holding it up now

I believe they are on paper but I also believe that status has no bite to enforce it
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isn't samsung now one of the google partners for timely updates? a bunch of manufacturers I think signed a deal with them saying they would release updates within 18 months of google releasing it(HTC, LG and others were also included). But once they release it, then the carriers usually take their sweet ass time pushing it out to us. from what I hear they gave sprint the los fix a while ago. It's sprint that's holding it up now
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LordLugard said:
...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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Blame the keyboard, it messed everything up.
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Well at least Sammy isn't putting out updates like HTC. Every time I read about an update from HTC recently is says they are pulling it because of issues. Would rather an update be truly tested then just thrown at us with more problems then we started with.
Didn't the HTC Thunderbolt just get Gingerbread a year after it was released? The grass is not always greener on the other side.....

One thing that I don't see mentioned often is the fact the mobile phones are only a small part of Samsungs overall business; tv's, bd players, appliances, industrial equipment and more, are some of the things this gigantic company is involved with...Not defending their slow updating schedules and such, but, keep in mind that a company this big doesn't always focus the amount of attention on every division that they probably should.
I knew this coming into this phone, so, I am not really surprised in how long it has taken them to get updates out in the past, and, I doubt it will get much better moving forward, so don't expect them to be "first to market" when it comes to the latest and greatest software for this phone..

How about a los update?
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bondosho said:
Blame the keyboard, it messed everything up.
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I keep reading that but I don't fully understand. What's it have to do with the updates?
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Bigjim1488 said:
How about a los update?
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who knows...In their minds, its probably not that big of a problem, and, they probably figure they are working at a proper pace for getting the issue addressed for the "small percentage" of people who have the issue...
I'm sure they are not sitting around in their board room worrying about LOS...
Here again, not defending them, just saying'...

Isc on the way!

I currently work for an indirect sprint store. I been waiting for the ISC update. Well today my regional manager from sprint came in. He said last night around 3 am he got an update for ice cream sandwhich, and its real. He doesn't hack his phone or anything. So just wait a little bit and its coming out. I can tell you that it doesn't have face recognition, but its alot faster than the gingerbread that was on there.

Pictures or it didn't happen. Just kidding. That's great news. Happen to remember the build number. Just wondering because the first update might not contain face recognition.
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Was there like a date he had in mind? Like early next year or late this month?
EDIT: I think its suppose to be ICS by the way man.
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deadmanmalu13 said:
I currently work for an indirect sprint store. I been waiting for the ISC update. Well today my regional manager from sprint came in. He said last night around 3 am he got an update for ice cream sandwhich, and its real. He doesn't hack his phone or anything. So just wait a little bit and its coming out. I can tell you that it doesn't have face recognition, but its alot faster than the gingerbread that was on there.
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http://markbiwwa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/bull****.jpg

pics or it didnt happen. trust me, if it was coming, engadget and other sites would have been all over it because the et4g is still one of the co-kings of android along with the new nexus

^
Plus you have the wrong ICS! So a troll pointing out a troll.

Looks like there is some truth to this based on some google searching for the past 24 hours:
http://translate.google.com/transla...fficial&biw=1024&bih=660&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=imvns
http://translate.google.com/transla...fficial&biw=1024&bih=660&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=imvns

Dude hasn't posted anything in almost 2 years, he is either a troll who owns an iphone now...
OR
HE IZ RITE AND ICS IS ALMOST HER!1!!!!!!1

FYI
From the Samsung Mobile Twitter Feed

More: http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-to-get-the-ICS-4-0-1-Update-during-Jan-2012

I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?

Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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btate0121 said:
I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?
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Our excitement should be VERY tempered. OG Epic users went through the same thing when GB was leaked for the i9000 (the int'l galaxy s). This time the leak is for the i9100 (the int'l galaxy s 2). I would not anticipate it will be of much use for us.

btate0121 said:
I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?
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The hardware is identical to the international and att Gs2 except for the radios. Its easier said than done to convert it to CDMA without samsungs source code.
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odub303 said:
Our excitement should be VERY tempered. OG Epic users went through the same thing when GB was leaked for the i9000 (the int'l galaxy s). This time the leak is for the i9100 (the int'l galaxy s 2). I would not anticipate it will be of much use for us.
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Exactlt. Just cause the international version might get it in january doesnt mean we will. I dont believe the ops story. Take a pic of his phone's about phone info.
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bbedward said:
The hardware is identical to the international and att Gs2 except for the radios. Its easier said than done to convert it to CDMA without samsungs source code.
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pardon my ignorance but the addition of the LED, the larger screen (even the ATT version has a different size screen and the epic is certainly larger than the international version) and the processor also varies doesn't it? Do those differences not make difference?

kingsway8605 said:
Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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Isn't the latest OTA dealing with the LOS and some other issues? I'd assume they can't really wait until the ICS and leave customers hanging that much longer with all the backlash.

im just letting you guys know... i know i haven't posted anything in a long time but i read and go through these forums almost everyday.. i just don't post things but usually other people post what i have to say.... so take it for what its worth, i personally don't really care if you guys think im lying its all good.

kingsway8605 said:
Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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This update date may be the one that allows the device to be updated to ICS. Im sure one of the Delvs will dig into the files to see the differences(other than CIQ)

btate0121 said:
pardon my ignorance but the addition of the LED, the larger screen (even the ATT version has a different size screen and the epic is certainly larger than the international version) and the processor also varies doesn't it? Do those differences not make difference?
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the screen doesn't matter they are the exact same screen just different sizes. Processor, CPU, gpu, wifi/bt chip, dac are all identical.
The LED is as simple as a kernel that supports it and a rom that uses it.
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[Q] Are we, for sure, getting cm9?

I keep hearing we are, but I see no proof. Anything?

I am a total noob on here as well and I am not trying to be an ass when I say the following: Do a search!!
It is coming but from everything I have read on here from doing my own research, graphics drivers are a huge problem along with some other issues and CM9 will probably not see the light of day on the SGH-T989 until after Samsung releases their ICS build.
Also, it is never a good idea to ask for an ETA from any developer. From what I have heard from other people that especially holds true for Cyanogen.

I'm not asking for a ETA, I just want to know it's coming.

tycosnh said:
I keep hearing we are, but I see no proof. Anything?
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I can tell you that my TMO inside man told me that a internal doc was posted in the extranet that said the SGSII was getting ICS, but no date was included. With that said, when ICS is released on our phone we should see CM9 released within the month after that. Thats my guess.

Ah. People were making it out to be that it was coming out this month. Dreams crushed. D;

Thats what I thought too, but its going to be while. But well worth the wait im sure

tycosnh said:
Ah. People were making it out to be that it was coming out this month. Dreams crushed. D;
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It was stated that Samsungs goal was first quarter of 2012, I'd take that very loosely though.
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I can't wait for ICS! My friend has the GNexus and its a nice phone however I like the physical appearance of the GS2 better!
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Seeing how well Samsung's promises of software upgrades go (on the Behold and Vibrant) I do not count on ICS being available for them at any time in the near future and definitely not in Q1. I'm sure we'll see CM9 released before seeing an official version from Samsung. At this point, between Dewizzed and CM7 I am very happy with the device and can wait (or at least try to!!).

Well, Just bought myself a Galaxy Nexus

Finally. I ordered a Galaxy from EBay and now I have to wait 5-6 days for it to come. So I was wondering what has happened in the Galaxy Nexus community.
Oh I got the Sprint Galaxy Nexus (Toroplus I believe)
Also I was wondering if there were any good fast and stable Jellybean Roms.
So glad to become part of the Nexus Family.

Jimlarck said:
Finally. I ordered a Galaxy from EBay and now I have to wait 5-6 days for it to come. So I was wondering what has happened in the Galaxy Nexus community.
Oh I got the Sprint Galaxy Nexus (Toroplus I believe)
Also I was wondering if there were any good fast and stable Jellybean Roms.
So glad to become part of the Nexus Family.
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how much did you buy it for? i looked at ebay and buy now price is 50-100 bucks more than what the play store offers
right now im on the amaze 4g.. and the development is horrible... it has good hardware but oh my lord HTC refuses to release kernel source for the darn device. i dont know if HTC does that for the rest of their device ughhhhhh so im reluctant to buy another device from them. should i join you fellow gnex owners?
what device did you come from? ive been looking through the dev thread for the gnex and paranoid rom looks very enticing.

itsmarkxd said:
right now im on the amaze 4g.. and the development is horrible... it has good hardware but oh my lord HTC refuses to release kernel source for the darn device. i dont know if HTC does that for the rest of their device ughhhhhh so im reluctant to buy another device from them. should i join you fellow gnex owners?
what device did you come from? ive been looking through the dev thread for the gnex and paranoid rom looks very enticing.
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Make the switch, you won't regret it. The specs on the Nexus are not only better (aside from camera and lack of sd slot) but development is light years ahead of the Amaze. There will of course be a new Nexus in the next 3-4 months, but it won't be $350 that's for sure. I came from an Amaze, and a T-Mo S2 and don't regret it one bit.
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itsmarkxd said:
how much did you buy it for? i looked at ebay and buy now price is 50-100 bucks more than what the play store offers
right now im on the amaze 4g.. and the development is horrible... it has good hardware but oh my lord HTC refuses to release kernel source for the darn device. i dont know if HTC does that for the rest of their device ughhhhhh so im reluctant to buy another device from them. should i join you fellow gnex owners?
what device did you come from? ive been looking through the dev thread for the gnex and paranoid rom looks very enticing.
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I come from the Evo 3D, came to Galaxy Nexus due to HTC not releasing the Kernel Source. Now development is dead. Oh and I got it off of eBay, it cost me $255USD with shipping. Clean ESN, light use, comes with everything that comes. The headset, the Charger, everything.

Jimlarck said:
I come from the Evo 3D, came to Galaxy Nexus due to HTC not releasing the Kernel Source. Now development is dead. Oh and I got it off of eBay, it cost me $255USD with shipping. Clean ESN, light use, comes with everything that comes. The headset, the Charger, everything.
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im not surprised with what you just said..
ugggghhh its just so irritating. they release phones with awesome specs but then you cant developed for it....
i hate it when people say "oh we'll get the latest update from cyanogen xx.xx...."
which is BULL****... considering half the time cyanogen wont ever be as refined or close to being complete on said device considering the lack of kernel source/lack of support from the manufacture... people buying non nexus devices are just being delusional. i have come to that conclusion. maybe manufacturers need to beef up the specs of their nexus device in the upcoming years
i believe the only non nexus device that i believed had a blossoming of development is the T-mobile G2\htc vision (i personally had that phone and had lots of fond moments flashing roms in)
other than that nexus all the way. i just wish htc makes the next nexus or there would be 5 of them in the future

HTC is becoming like Apple at the moment... Their One S .. non removable battery and no SD card slot.. and They won't release their damn Kernel Sources.. they discontinue any device and take a whole lot to update them. Not to mention that if you ask and tell them that there is something wrong with your device they say "Hello we are sorry to hear. If you want to try to stay up to date and see if your phone will be able to be fixed join our completely ****ty Twitter or Facebook, because we don't give a **** about you guys, you gave us money , we don't care and we just want to get more popular."
Their support is ****.

Jimlarck said:
HTC is becoming like Apple at the moment... Their One S .. non removable battery and no SD card slot.. and They won't release their damn Kernel Sources.. they discontinue any device and take a whole lot to update them. Not to mention that if you ask and tell them that there is something wrong with your device they say "Hello we are sorry to hear. If you want to try to stay up to date and see if your phone will be able to be fixed join our completely ****ty Twitter or Facebook, because we don't give a **** about you guys, you gave us money , we don't care and we just want to get more popular."
Their support is ****.
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Which is why I sold my beloved Inspire and got a Play Store Nexus. I have had it a week and LOVE IT. No more HTC for me. Ever.

itsmarkxd said:
im not surprised with what you just said..
ugggghhh its just so irritating. they release phones with awesome specs but then you cant developed for it....
i hate it when people say "oh we'll get the latest update from cyanogen xx.xx...."
which is BULL****... considering half the time cyanogen wont ever be as refined or close to being complete on said device considering the lack of kernel source/lack of support from the manufacture... people buying non nexus devices are just being delusional. i have come to that conclusion. maybe manufacturers need to beef up the specs of their nexus device in the upcoming years
i believe the only non nexus device that i believed had a blossoming of development is the T-mobile G2\htc vision (i personally had that phone and had lots of fond moments flashing roms in)
other than that nexus all the way. i just wish htc makes the next nexus or there would be 5 of them in the future
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Have to disagree with you on the "blossoming of development" part.
Have had the captivate. Which to this day. Is still going strong. And had a jellybean port before the gs3.
I had the epic touch 4g and the att gs2. Which are both still amazing phones going strong. And I am now onto the gs3 which isn't even 2 months old. (U.S release) and the number of ROMs and support for it is overwhelming.
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You guys are making me inpatient. My Galaxy Nexus won't be here until 5-6 days. So all this reading is making me happy and impatient. I really want the Galaxy nexus :'3

I actually am getting a nexus on Tuesday, coming from a Droid Incredible which has working ports of - Jelly Bean, Ice Cream Sandwich and Sense 4.
Its a device that won't die with great devs still, sense 3.5 roms were last developed by Newt/Joelz/Wildstang/Puremotive.
We had an amazing dev and community spot, its dying down as others are upgrading.
bOx Stash - https://www.box.com/shared/d8a46b7252c38069deb1

Yeah, I can see most people getting a Gnexus are HTC.

Jimlarck said:
Yeah, I can see most people getting a Gnexus are HTC.
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Like me, for example

Anyways, whats a good Rom for the Galaxy Nexus Toroplus. (sprint)
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Jimlarck said:
Yeah, I can see most people getting a Gnexus are HTC.
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High development and seems to be a great and strong community plus the nexus will be my second android phone.
I don't wanna say the nexus is the pinnacle of android phones per-say but its the one fellow nerd lovers and rioters alike will rejoice in a happy community thanks to Google and Samsung.
I honestly cannot wait to start enjoying this phone! Its big enough for my hands, my 3'7 incredible.. my hand swallows this phone and I needed a big phone.
Ahh I'm ecstatic!!!
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+1 on that bro, I can't wait for it to be here. And for fun's sake I even spent all night watching an Unboxing video. The only time I have ever touched the Galaxy nexus was in a Sprint store. I looked at the Gnex Screen, then back at mine. Mine looked ****ty compared to the Galaxy Nexus' Gorgeous Screen Resolution. It looked so beautiful. Messed with the UI and felt so smooth. And that was ICS. They say Jellybean is 5x Better than ICS. The moment I get the phone I'll root it and install a good JB Rom.
What's a good Sprint Galaxy Nexus Jellybean Rom?
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I don't know about the Sprint variant but with the Verizon version I have had great luck with Euroskank CM10 ROM.
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5 days to go
I also noticed that the people in the Nexus Community are cheerful and don't throw you off for saying something wrong. They're actually polite. Some people in the Evo 3D threads answer questions with sarcasm. As if they're perfect.
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For your first jelly bean ROM I recommend going with Bug less Beast. I'm running it right now and it is as stable as anything and I'm about three releases behind (7/19 version.) Its my first rom and its making me a root believer!
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I just got a nexus today the unlocked version. I'm debating whether I should root it since I have the stock jelly bean. I came from an iPhone 4s. This will be my second android phone though . My first was a skyrocket. I'm liking what I see so far though.

Of course you should root! The development is astounding I personally have spent many hours molding and tweaking mine and loved every minute of it. We have some of the best and most generous devs in the world
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[Q] Android Key Lime Pie 5.0

Guys, do you guys have any idea, or what do u guys thing , is GNEX getting the key lime pie upgrade?

yes we will. we will get it slightly after google i/o.

If we do...eh good I guess. If we don't, too bad

Yes.
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I doubt it, supporting old phones is rarer than finding 1000$ on a hotdog these days
I think jb is the last official update for the gnex
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im sure we will. gnex is not that old. if not an official update, many custom roms will appear thanks to our devoted and skilled devs.

Well not that old cos It's still a good device that provides great user experience. I agree but when we're talking about such fast developing technology and update policy two years means a lot!
As far as I remember Google hasn't officially announced devices to get KLP yet so we can just speculate. But I wouldn't be much surprised if we didn't get it.

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I doubt it, supporting old phones is rarer than finding 1000$ on a hotdog these days
I think jb is the last official update for the gnex
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lol wat
The phone is ****ing 1 good year old.

madd0g said:
lol wat
The phone is ****ing 1 good year old.
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Gnex was released october 2011 iirc, that makes about 1,5 years, by the time android 5.0 comes the Gnex will almost be around for 2 years, yes.

Non-google phones of that age have been supported. There's more reason to thingk the GNex will be included than not.
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The Nexus S got Jelly Bean, I see no reason why the G Nex wouldn't get KLP

Didn't Google promise to support nexus devices over at least a set month period? Around the time ICS came out I want to say they said 18 months, or maybe more. Even if they don't, we will see ROMS worked up for them. And if you look at the old nexus devices, updates didn't happen due to hardware limitation. Unless they got some new feature that demands a hardware feature be on the phone and we don't have it, I doubt they will stop updating us.

In terms of CPU/GPU GNEX is unfortunately not even close to 2012 flagships (not to mention 2013 beasts). I am not saying that our TiOMAP won't be able to handle KLP but it can be used as an excuse. I hope not.

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In terms of CPU/GPU GNEX is unfortunately not even close to 2012 flagships (not to mention 2013 beasts). I am not saying that our TiOMAP won't be able to handle KLP but it can be used as an excuse. I hope not.
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If your correct that means that KLP couldn't run on most mid end devices.
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madd0g said:
If your correct that means that KLP couldn't run on most mid end devices.
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I am not saying anything. I've no idea about KLP's requirements. No idea what google decides either. We're all just speculating here. I was basically trying to figure out a possible excuse not to give us KLP. And CPU/GPU is GNexus' weakest side comparing to 2012 and newer handsets. That's all.
* In 2012 HTC One S with S4 Krait was also considered a mid end device.

It may or may not come out for our devices, technology advances pretty quickly, if we get it, good, if not, too bad, Google did not owe us anything.