i have seen the t-mobile thread but no mention of att. do any of you smart fellas know:
1. is this phone coming to att and
2. will it have lte (dealbreaker for me as i'm looking to the future)?
3. if no to either of the previous, how can i convince my girl to leave att for verizon when she gets a discount at att?
edit: and yes i have googled and read for days...
Unlocked version will work on atnt. Why convince your girl to pay more with a crappy company just so you can get a phone? How would you like it if she convinced a guy to get with her and leave you because he had bigger....discount?
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I'm on ATT as well and to be honest with you i've saved my pennies and am waiting for the unlocked version to come to US. If the nexus comes to att it wont be for a while. I also doubt that there will be an ATT LTE version of this phone. And thats not a deal breaker as there is no LTE coverage in my area from either of the big two US providers and I dont expect it anytime soon.
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i have seen the t-mobile thread but no mention of att. do any of you smart fellas know:
1. is this phone coming to att and
2. will it have lte (dealbreaker for me as i'm looking to the future)?
3. if no to either of the previous, how can i convince my girl to leave att for verizon when she gets a discount at att?
edit: and yes i have googled and read for days...
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I dont know who your girlfriend works for but alot of companies like mine have discounts on all the carriers
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Unlocked version will work on atnt. Why convince your girl to pay more with a crappy company just so you can get a phone? How would you like it if she convinced a guy to get with her and leave you because he had bigger....discount?
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i don't want to go to verizon by any means, and i have little fear of my girl finding a bigger...discount, lol. assuming the unlocked version has lte that works, i am fine with that.
arvest, altimax, and only att...
att "claims" that it will be rolling out to 55% of the nation by end of 2012 and 80+% by 2013. i'm pretty sure i'm in there and thinking you maybe as well unless your a hilljack...
Houston is supposed to be lit up but i could care less. Lte battery life is horrendous. Its still early tech. And hspa+ is plenty fast as is and can be turned up faster and still do faster and better on battery than current lte. Lte phone probably wont be on my radar for at least two years. In the meantime, i hope the nexus can hold up for ~2 years.
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assuming the unlocked version has lte that works, i am fine with that.
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No, the unlocked version does not have LTE. You'd be getting the HSPA+ version for use on AT&T. The only LTE version is CDMA/LTE for Verizon.
If you stay with AT&T, you surely won't be disappointed with the HSPA+ speeds.
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No, the unlocked version does not have LTE. You'd be getting the HSPA+ version for use on AT&T. The only LTE version is CDMA/LTE for Verizon.
If you stay with AT&T, you surely won't be disappointed with the HSPA+ speeds.
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i have the atrix, i know what hspa+ can do and it's fine. i'm starting to think it may just be better to wait for a ics handset next year, i have just always wanted a nexus and thought this was finally my chance, but i'm not gonna pay 800 bucks for a phone and not even get tech that will last over 6 months. sigh...such a beautiful phone though...pure...google...sob
AT& T gets (officially) nexii a few months later, so with patience LTE MAY be a reality (come spring). I personally think this is reinforced by the rumors/leaks of a US Cellular (who hasn't even began 4G LTE rollout- unless they cut a roaming agreement with Verizon) LTE GN.
Yes the unlocked HSPA+ one will work, but i think there is a reason why Verizon is the "exclusive launch" for the LTE version, and not just the exclusive carrier of the LTE version... I think there is a reason why that wording was chosen.
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i have the atrix, i know what hspa+ can do and it's fine. i'm starting to think it may just be better to wait for a ics handset next year, i have just always wanted a nexus and thought this was finally my chance, but i'm not gonna pay 800 bucks for a phone and not even get tech that will last over 6 months. sigh...such a beautiful phone though...pure...google...sob
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I'm assuming you're indicating that your only option would be importing a phone? I'd just wait a couple weeks and see if it will be available unlocked in the US. If it is, then you'll be able to pick one up under $600, and won't have to import.
As far as AT&T carrying it with a subsidy, I wouldn't put too much stock in that. I don't see it happening.
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i have the atrix, i know what hspa+ can do and it's fine. i'm starting to think it may just be better to wait for a ics handset next year, i have just always wanted a nexus and thought this was finally my chance, but i'm not gonna pay 800 bucks for a phone and not even get tech that will last over 6 months. sigh...such a beautiful phone though...pure...google...sob
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I feel ya, I recently glanced through sprint's plans and pricing and am considering switching over. Hope they get a Nexus phone XD.
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I feel ya, I recently glanced through sprint's plans and pricing and am considering switching over. Hope they get a Nexus phone XD.
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Ugh. I used to be with Sprint. Their plans are nice, but their coverage really isn't great, their 3G is abysmally slow, and their WiMax (even when you can get it) isn't worth the battery drain.
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I'm assuming you're indicating that your only option would be importing a phone? I'd just wait a couple weeks and see if it will be available unlocked in the US. If it is, then you'll be able to pick one up under $600, and won't have to import.
As far as AT&T carrying it with a subsidy, I wouldn't put too much stock in that. I don't see it happening.
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I'm assuming importing would be the quicker option as i don't see the US getting an unlocked version until verizon is done with it and by then other phones (quadcores) will be sporting ics and it won't matter. i want 4.0 pure and would prefer lte for the future but i don't see myself getting that this month unless i import. do you think differently?
I have to be honest...Im truly shocked it wasnt ATT trying to get exclusivity going.
They seemed Android lusty after iphone went to VZ. Dont know why they wouldnt go after the GN.
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I'm assuming importing would be the quicker option as i don't see the US getting an unlocked version until verizon is done with it and by then other phones (quadcores) will be sporting ics and it won't matter. i want 4.0 pure and would prefer lte for the future but i don't see myself getting that this month unless i import. do you think differently?
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What I'm saying is we really don't know... anything. So just hang out a couple more weeks and see. Don't make some decision based on rumor and speculation. I don't see VZW having a long exclusivity (if any). I also don't see other carriers picking it up for subsidy. There's no money in the Nexus program (compared to made-for-carriers locked handsets with carrier bloat and control). I do see it coming to the US unlocked very soon though. Google has no reason not to.
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I have to be honest...Im truly shocked it wasnt ATT trying to get exclusivity going.
They seemed Android lusty after iphone went to VZ. Dont know why they wouldnt go after the GN.
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i wish they would do what samsung has done with the galaxy s line. actually i wish they would all do this. the galaxy s is on all carriers (although with a few changes as the carriers feel they want to buy to be different). this approach is the start of one of androids biggest problems, splintering. if motorola, samsung, sony, and google gave all the carriers the droid, galaxy, ericson/expieria, and nexus lines to all carriers, splintering would be less of a problem. but carriers are to greedy and spend millions for exclusive rights on lines instead of puuting money into projects worthy of such funds (um, 4g). i am glad ics unifies android a bit more but i am still certain that hardware will still have to be worked with in order to work right that's why i think the gnexus has tried and true hardware instead of the latest and greatest...which is why i want the phone so bad. here is to the future of only a handful of android devices, one of the few things apple almost got right.
Speculation on AT&T
THIS IS PURE SPECULATION AND INTERPOLATION FROM THE PREVIOUS RELATIONSHIPS OF AT&T AND THE NEXUS LINE
I am going to go ahead and call that there will be an official AT&T LTE model in as early as about two months, but no later than 6 months- with 5-6 months being more likely. (Sadly this seems like it will be well past the GN's industry-driving moment)
Path to this ASSUMPTION:
There was an official AT&T banded Nexus One launched 71 days after the T-mo version.
There was an official AT&T banded Nexus S launched 231 days after the T-mo one.
There has been a (possibly fake) leak of an LTE version on a regional carrier that has not focused on LTE (to my knowledge) yet- If there is a possibility it will go to them as LTE why not to a carrier that has (limited) LTE now? (also, as I acknowledge in an earlier post this is probably through a roaming agreement on Verizon's LTE network, but US Cellular would still have to market/talk about/make a big deal about it, and the fact that they haven't really hyped it tells me that it isn't ready yet)
AT&T's network arrived earlier than originally thought- phones on it were planned originally for 2012, as per their comments to questions at the Atrix4G announcement last winter. We now have two phones launched on the network. I am not saying they sped up network development for the GN (far from it- AT&T seems to hate the Nexii), but the network has been sped up and is now in place for the GN to take advantage of.
I say that 5-6 months is more likely because of three reasons:
Statistically (which if you know about statistics, this doesn't mean much), the average delay time (from device launch to AT&T specific launch) is 151 days.
AT&T does not trust/like having unlocked developer/Nexus devices in the hands of the masses on their network (they have lightened up on this somewhat lately), and so will push off the launch of an official GN as long as they can (as they have done).
Like the Nexus S (which had a delay time of 231 days), the GN is made by Samsung who seem to take a little while getting US phones out the door, and so the AT&T model will probably see a similar delay as the AT&T NS.
I should also add that I don't think AT&T has ever subsidized a Nexus phone- so don't expect them to with this one either. Like I said, they seem to hate the prospect of these unlocked developer phones running around on their network. Funny thing is, I have three friends who work for AT&T and all of them have the Nexus S, and they tell me all the time how much the engineers hate them having "open" devices. Craziness.
Hate on me if you want for feeding the speculation fire, but this is how I see it playing out. And honestly, despite my initial disappointment, I think I am fine with a wait time like that. I hope I'm wrong on it, but it will be fine.
s.m.knipe said:
THIS IS PURE SPECULATION AND INTERPOLATION FROM THE PREVIOUS RELATIONSHIPS OF AT&T AND THE NEXUS LINE
I am going to go ahead and call that there will be an official AT&T LTE model in as early as about two months, but no later than 6 months- with 5-6 months being more likely. (Sadly this seems like it will be well past the GN's industry-driving moment)
Path to this ASSUMPTION:
There was an official AT&T banded Nexus One launched 71 days after the T-mo version.
There was an official AT&T banded Nexus S launched 231 days after the T-mo one.
There has been a (possibly fake) leak of an LTE version on a regional carrier that has not focused on LTE (to my knowledge) yet- If there is a possibility it will go to them as LTE why not to a carrier that has (limited) LTE now? (also, as I acknowledge in an earlier post this is probably through a roaming agreement on Verizon's LTE network, but US Cellular would still have to market/talk about/make a big deal about it, and the fact that they haven't really hyped it tells me that it isn't ready yet)
AT&T's network arrived earlier than originally thought- phones on it were planned originally for 2012, as per their comments to questions at the Atrix4G announcement last winter. We now have two phones launched on the network. I am not saying they sped up network development for the GN (far from it- AT&T seems to hate the Nexii), but the network has been sped up and is now in place for the GN to take advantage of.
I say that 5-6 months is more likely because of three reasons:
Statistically (which if you know about statistics, this doesn't mean much), the average delay time (from device launch to AT&T specific launch) is 151 days.
AT&T does not trust/like having unlocked developer/Nexus devices in the hands of the masses on their network (they have lightened up on this somewhat lately), and so will push off the launch of an official GN as long as they can (as they have done).
Like the Nexus S (which had a delay time of 231 days), the GN is made by Samsung who seem to take a little while getting US phones out the door, and so the AT&T model will probably see a similar delay as the AT&T NS.
I should also add that I don't think AT&T has ever subsidized a Nexus phone- so don't expect them to with this one either. Like I said, they seem to hate the prospect of these unlocked developer phones running around on their network. Funny thing is, I have three friends who work for AT&T and all of them have the Nexus S, and they tell me all the time how much the engineers hate them having "open" devices. Craziness.
Hate on me if you want for feeding the speculation fire, but this is how I see it playing out. And honestly, despite my initial disappointment, I think I am fine with a wait time like that. I hope I'm wrong on it, but it will be fine.
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Ant never had a 'branded' nexus device is just compatible release of the phone.
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Ant never had a 'branded' nexus device is just compatible release of the phone.
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Yeah, that's why I said "banded" not "branded"
Oops. Whistles and walks away.
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UPDATE: The Verge has a hands on with the Verizon Nexus. Should be out later this month.
Source:http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/3/2...ands-on?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
UPDATE: Here's a video of the VZW Nexus, rumored for a Dec 11 BestBuy Launch. Bootloader UNLOCKED
Source:http://youtu.be/iPzoSgTYxc4
UPDATE: Droid-Life has press shots of the VZW Nexus, eat your heart out.
Source: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/30/official-verizon-galaxy-nexus-press-shots-revealed/
UPDATE: Droid-Life has an interesting comparison chart which pegs the LTE Nexus coming in a 32GB flavor with "no OEM customization". Although it's nothing new, it does confirm a few things. Also, bear in mind carrier apps are NOT an OEM skin, so they might still be present.
Source: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/2...y-nexus-as-a-phone-with-no-oem-customization/
UPDATE: Droid-Life and other sites have gotten seen an ad for the LTE Nexus and it appears to have a $199.99 price tag. While some people assume that this is the price for the 16GB LTE Nexus, I feel that this is going to be the price of the 32GB version, as it lacks an SD card. As stated before, many LTE Nexus testers are denying that VZW is going to release a 16GB version, and this also coincides with what review sites are saying as well. Also, NegriElectronics have stated that they have heard from an inside VZW source that they will have a shipment to sell on Dec 9th. This means that VZW will have it at the latest by this date and maybe earlier, refuting the claim that it has a Dec 8th release date.
Source: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/2...xus-for-199-on-black-friday-according-to-ads/
UPDATE: The Picture of the LTE Nexus can be seen on droid-life.com. It's back in black.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/23/thickness-comparison-lte-vs-gsm-galaxy-nexus/#more-53902
UPDATE: The LTE Model of the Nexus is now running 4.0.2 as reported by P3Droid (VERY reputable insider who actually has an LTE Nexus at this time). It is unclear on if it's just a bugfix or if it makes the phone faster. Leaning toward bugfixes considering it's a small jump.
UPDATE: The phone will be released in December, NOT 11/27 or 12/1 as reported by some. Also, the "Ghost Volume Bug" does NOT occur on the LTE Nexus so far, and does not occur on the GSM Nexus in the States either (900mHz bug as stated in the other threads).
Alright, I know many are wondering what is happening with this screwed up launch and why the Galaxy Nexus is taking so long to arrive here in the states, so I thought I would consolidate all the information in one thread.
First, I would like to address the LTE Nexus.
This phone IS CONFIRMED to arrive in a 32GB flavor and be exclusive to Verizon in the states. Now, considering that Verizon has no Galaxy S2 variant of their own, it is almost 100% likely that they made a deal with Google. The reason Google agreed to it was simply for the LTE hookup, because Verizon is the only carrier with "4G" and Sprint is dumping their WiMAX.
The official page @ http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs has seemed to confuse a bunch of people, as it now only says 16GB for all models, but this is probably incorrect. Firstly, it erroneously states "Varies" on Network, when it's a confirmed Verizon Exclusive, at least for the LTE/CDMA variant.
Now, for why it is delayed:
This seems to be a collaborative failure on both Google and Verizon's part. black_man_x (a very connected mobile phone insider) says:
Not placing the blame all on Verizon.. there are screw ups on both sides.
but it looks to be much more on Verizon's end than Google and Samsung's
If you can't code your ****ty carrier apps to work with a device or OS.. is that our issue or yours? #justsaying
to be honest everyone is tired of vzw bull****. device is no longer a nexus due to their dumb ass games.. Unlocked works great on att..
and my favorite:
I'm tired of these "technical issue" rumors about the nexus delay.. Should just bring back the google.Com/phone address back
to back up the storage, he actually tested the 32GB LTE model and says there is no 16GB option for VZW:
As for the storage question.. would vzw release a cheaper less mem model and still charge the same amount? Does that answer your question?
So, with that being said, don't hold your breath on Verizon. They're the first carrier to actually put branding all over the Nexus line, so much so that they REMOVED the "Google" logo entirely for their logo.
So, Verizon faithfuls and hopefuls, what's your take on this whole launch fiasco?
Waiting is annoying but its not like Verizon themselves came out and said it's coming out and specific date so it really hasn't been pushed back
True you can't push back what was never announced but that's just a Catch-22 and is complete BS to me.
I'm on Verizon right now with my Droid Charge. I really really want this phone, but verizon seems to be screwing everything up. As the days go on, it's making me want this phone less and less because I don't want to support Verizon for all their messed up policies and actions.
That sounds about how I expected the situation. VZW screwing things up and trying to take control, Google letting it happen because they have no other LTE option.
I mean, I would understand the need to test the phone, but come on! It's been announced since forever and I don't want the LTE version, just the GSM version. They should have done it like the Nexus S and released the CDMA 4G version later.
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If the above is true... Gotta wonder if the 32gb version was part of a Vzn negotiated deal to encourage sales to buyers of unlocked devices. In any event 32gb unlocked devices should be available.
With the way Vzn has honked things up, I can only hope the clock is ticking on Vzn's exclusivity.
You should have an option for "want LTE but not on Verizon" - AT&T (crappy as they can be, I know) have what, 11 cities now with LTE and an "aggressive" rollout for it in 2012? I'd rather have an LTE GN on AT&T- were this a perfect world, but I am sure they would try to bloat it just the same... [no Verizon 3G or 4G officially here in the eastern panhandle of WV]
I sure hope it comes out soon before the verizon double data promotion expires. I really don't like Verizon but they have the best coverage and data speeds in my area, plus 4G LTE.
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I sure hope it comes out soon before the verizon double data promotion expires. I really don't like Verizon but they have the best coverage and data speeds in my area, plus 4G LTE.
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Im right there with you. T-mo has a lot of black holes in places i go in chicago lately, and my with my wife's corp. discount, verizon will be $1 more per month for basically the same plan. I'm ready to switch if they would just release it already.
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Im right there with you. T-mo has a lot of black holes in places i go in chicago lately, and my with my wife's corp. discount, verizon will be $1 more per month for basically the same plan. I'm ready to switch if they would just release it already.
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I also forgot to mention that I would get a 19 percent discount with my employer, so that makes the basic 4 GB (double data plan) like 70 something dollars, which I pay for now like 84 unlimited data with sprint (although unusable data because sprint sucks right now). I'll probably opt for the 10 gig plan because I plan on using the hell out of the 4G when I get it.
As a VZW customer I hate all of this. I've never had to go through anything like this with other carriers but, admittedly; I've never waited on a phone before it launched. All my previous nexus phones were with T-mobile and, I bought them after release.
It's pretty frustrating but, there's nothing I can do about it. I don't actually need a new phone like some people. However, I do wish I had stayed with T-mobile, if I had; the Galaxy nexus would be on it's way from Handtec now. I also had great service with T-mobile in my city and, the HSPA+ was really fast.
Those of you switching to Verizon I simply cannot fathom a tiered data plan on LTE. That's just insane to me.
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You should have an option for "want LTE but not on Verizon" - AT&T (crappy as they can be, I know) have what, 11 cities now with LTE and an "aggressive" rollout for it in 2012? I'd rather have an LTE GN on AT&T- were this a perfect world, but I am sure they would try to bloat it just the same... [no Verizon 3G or 4G officially here in the eastern panhandle of WV]
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AT&T LTE is so far out from being widespread that the Nexus 4 will be out by then, along with the GS3 and HTC's "we-ran-out-of-names, with BEATS audio".
Don't get me wrong, I was dying for a GSM/LTE model, but it wouldn't be practical now.
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Those of you switching to Verizon I simply cannot fathom a tiered data plan on LTE. That's just insane to me.
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Well this is my situation right now: I can either switch to Verizon and have usable, high speed, capped data. Or I can stay with Sprint and have unlimited, unusable data.
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Well this is my situation right now: I can either switch to Verizon and have usable, high speed, capped data. Or I can stay with Sprint and have unlimited, unusable data.
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That's about where I'm at, except with a ****ty old HTC Hero also.
Damn guys that just stinks. No way around that one.
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Damn guys that just stinks. No way around that one.
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Yeah no kidding. Ever since 2010 the service has just gotten worse. I mean Sprint is going to improve and by the end of 2013 they (in theory) will have the best LTE and 3G network, I just don't want to pay for the unusable service until then. Hopefully it will be unlimited still.
At this point I'm just tired paying 80+ bucks a month for a service I'm not getting.
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Yeah no kidding. Ever since 2010 the service has just gotten worse. I mean Sprint is going to improve and by the end of 2013 they (in theory) will have the best LTE and 3G network, I just don't want to pay for the unusable service until then. Hopefully it will be unlimited still.
At this point I'm just tired paying 80+ bucks a month for a service I'm not getting.
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lol "best" LTE and 3G is a joke. They won't ever be best because they don't have the funding to be the best. They need to stop thinking they can actually compete with Verizon and AT&T. They could have the best service in the world, but they don't have, and can't get, the numbers required to be the best.
Just have your work pay for your Verizon line like I do.
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Or should I just buy it at full price unlocked. I heard an "AT&T" version passed through the FCC but 1. Is that really an AT&T version? Some people said it may be some Canadian or Australian carrier. and 2. It may just never come out anyway. I'd just be pissed if I paid $750 then it comes to AT&T and I could've saved $500. You think there's actually a chance of it coming to AT&T (this decade)? What would you do in this situation?
It probably is coming to AT&T according to the latest FCC filings. http://www.techieinsider.com/news/12988
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Or should I just buy it at full price unlocked. I heard an "AT&T" version passed through the FCC but 1. Is that really an AT&T version? Some people said it may be some Canadian or Australian carrier. and 2. It may just never come out anyway. I'd just be pissed if I paid $750 then it comes to AT&T and I could've saved $500. You think there's actually a chance of it coming to AT&T (this decade)? What would you do in this situation?
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You should be able to get a better plan if you use a unlocked phone. At least I did with t-mobile.
FWIW I talked to some guys at a corporate location and they do not think AT&T will be picking up the Nexus.
They said they've haven't heard any rumors/rumblings internally of any kind about getting it and that they've never carried a Nexus before and don't see why this one would be any different.
:/ Just relaying about inquiring about it. I went ahead and got a intl. unlock myself.
AT&T stores never carried a Nexus phone, but customers could get a subsidized Nexus S for AT&T from Best Buy.
Just grab one an enjoy. Live a little.
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Or should I just buy it at full price unlocked. I heard an "AT&T" version passed through the FCC but 1. Is that really an AT&T version? Some people said it may be some Canadian or Australian carrier. and 2. It may just never come out anyway. I'd just be pissed if I paid $750 then it comes to AT&T and I could've saved $500. You think there's actually a chance of it coming to AT&T (this decade)? What would you do in this situation?
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If you have the money I'd just buy it outright. Especially if when it comes to AT&T you'll be buying it full price anyways. You won't be saving that much and you'll be able to have the phone now, which is worth something for sure.
I don't know about later on, but AT&T definitely isn't getting this phone before the end of the year. It's all Verizon right now. So even if you're sure its coming to AT&T (who knows?) you can still buy it now knowing you're getting it months earlier.
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If you have the money I'd just buy it outright. Especially if when it comes to AT&T you'll be buying it full price anyways. You won't be saving that much and you'll be able to have the phone now, which is worth something for sure.
I don't know about later on, but AT&T definitely isn't getting this phone before the end of the year. It's all Verizon right now. So even if you're sure its coming to AT&T (who knows?) you can still buy it now knowing you're getting it months earlier.
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I mean I'd buy it subsidized off AT&T and it'd probably be like $300 at most. This is a really tough decision.
I ended up using my upgrade to get an HTC Vivid for $75 then sold it for $400 and just put the $325 profit toward the Nexus. I'd say just go for it. This phone is a beast.
buy it now. save your upgrade. dont sign a contract. in 6 months+ when something better comes out, cuz you know it will, you will still have your upgrade.
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It probably is coming to AT&T according to the latest FCC filings. [/QUOTE]
Wrong. That one is also a...his year and that is a Bell Canada exclusive.
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buy it now. save your upgrade. dont sign a contract. in 6 months+ when something better comes out, cuz you know it will, you will still have your upgrade.
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thats what i did. I'll use my upgrade on the next big lte phone
The FCC doesn't approve devices for Canada and Australia.
The device that passed doesn't have the 900 Mhz, which has been causing problems on the unlocked GSM phone.. So that's one reason to wait for it. Another is if it does in fact come officially to AT&T, the price will drop significantly. Also, buying devices on the grey market is not for the faint of heart, I've got a Nexus S with the search button bug and Negri/Samsung/Google don't care because they don't have to.
In all likelihood you will see a late January/early February release of this phone and smart money is waiting
I'm on at&t as well and am waiting for one of 2 things. Either for it to come to at&t directly or for a significant price drop. I don't have a problem picking up the international version because when you turn around and sell it you'll likely get more since it can be used on any gsm carrier. The one major thing i'm waiting to find out though is if there are any plans to release a 32gb gsm version.
I didn't want to wait for the "next" big phone, so I just found the most expensive/free phone on at&t, used my upgrade to get it, then sold the phone on ebay...I picked up the HTC Titan for free at Best Buy on Cyber Monday, sold it for ~$500 and now have the Nexus Galaxy for cool $250 (what it would probably cost if it ever came to at&t).
...additionally I am selling my Nexus S and hoping to get a couple hundred and making the NG almost free.
Anyways, if you have an upgrade and don't mind the contract, just get the best deal on a phone you can sell...it's the only way I could have ever afforded my original N1, my i9020A NS and now GS.
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The FCC doesn't approve devices for Canada and Australia.
The device that passed doesn't have the 900 Mhz, which has been causing problems on the unlocked GSM phone.. So that's one reason to wait for it. Another is if it does in fact come officially to AT&T, the price will drop significantly. Also, buying devices on the grey market is not for the faint of heart, I've got a Nexus S with the search button bug and Negri/Samsung/Google don't care because they don't have to.
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You're actually wrong. The FCC checks all devices that could be used in the US. i9000t https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1303821
i9100t http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-passes-fcc-muster
i9250m https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1586317
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19919999
19000T and i9100T went to Telus/Rogers in Canada and the i9250m went to Bell Canada. i9250m was the first GSN to pass the FCC and it's on sale this week exclusively from Virgin Mobile/Bell Canada.
I thought the same for rogers... paid way too much for mine. Couldn't care less... best purchase of 2011 for me personally.
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The FCC doesn't approve devices for Canada and Australia.
The device that passed doesn't have the 900 Mhz, which has been causing problems on the unlocked GSM phone.. So that's one reason to wait for it. Another is if it does in fact come officially to AT&T, the price will drop significantly. Also, buying devices on the grey market is not for the faint of heart, I've got a Nexus S with the search button bug and Negri/Samsung/Google don't care because they don't have to.
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The FCC reviews any device that could be used in the US.
Also, the volume "bug" is tied to 900mhz, but even if your device has the 900mhz frequency enabled in the hardware, it has nothing to do with whether or not you'll experience the bug. The problem arises when you actually use 900mhz. So even those of you who imported a GN to the US have 900mhz hardware, you're never going to use it on AT&T (850mhz) or T-mobile (1800).
I'm on AT&T and my Galaxy Nexus just arrived at my house from Expansys today.
I'm glad I went ahead and got it though it was well worth it now that I have it in my hands.
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I returned my SkyRocket and was hoping to go without a phone until the NEXUS lands on the AT&T network.
I am starting to wonder if this was a smart move on my part- I didnt want to be stuck with a 2 year contract if the NEXUS was going to launch right around the corner and it was too late.
Anyone know of any rumors that the NEXUS might land on AT&T in the US?
I know it is on sale in Canada for the GSM vesion- I cant imagine the US is that far behind.
The last GSM version to pass through the FCC had AT&T 3G bands only, that doesn't necessarily mean AT&T will get the phone, but there's a good chance once Verizon's exclusivity ends.
AT&T has gotten the Nexus One and the Nexus a few months after it was released for T-Mobile in the US, I don't see why it wouldn't be the same wait again this time around.
Personally I think it would be better just to get the international GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus now, just because it supports an extra band (T-mobile's) and doesn't have any extra apps installed. Verizon has its own apps on the phone, AT&T might do the same this time around, who knows.
I was thinking that as well but the steep price is what is stopping me.
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I was thinking that as well but the steep price is what is stopping me.
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I was on the same boat but I sucked it up and pay up front cause I know I will come out ahead with a prepaid plan in the long run. And who knows it might reverse the depressing trend of being under Carrier's mercy for a new phone like right now.
I dont care about their policies, I was hoping they had lte on the NEXUS. I also would root it and throw a custom rom on it.
This way it is pure and custom to the programmers on here. I trust them more than the carriers. I mean after all - XDA exposed the carrier IQ
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I dont care about their policies, I was hoping they had lte on the NEXUS
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I don't believe the recently FCC passed "AT&T" Galaxy Nexus had any of the ~700MHz LTE frequencies listed. So doubtful that if/when AT&T gets the phone, it'll be a GSM/LTE device like Verizon's CDMA/LTE.
The Nexus release date will be in late february or early march.
Verizon has a 60 day exclusive launch for the nexus according to the Wall Street Journal.
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Has there been any rumors/whispers/overheard a conversation in the bathroom news of any future WP7 phones that may be coming to sprint?
Sprint will launch a new Windows Phone about a month after Apollo RTM. You are looking at September period.
The device will feature Snapdragon MSM8960 and LTE.
Source: The Verge
Sprint's network currently sucks too bad to support any kind of phone.
Maybe it will change in the future.
This is a bummer. I'm on Sprint now with only the HTC Arrive and I do want to stay on it. Unfortunately I've been sold on the Nokia Lumia 900 so I'm gonna jump over to AT&T once that's out.
Kinda annoyed that both Sprint and Verizon both have exactly 1 Windows Phone. Seriously lame.
While Sprint may be releasing an LTE "Windows Phone 8" device in September, I'll believe it when I see it. Either way, they are so far behind in LTE that it would take a few years for it to be readily available around the country.
I've been with Sprint for about 4 years, and ditched them today for the Lumia 900 and AT&T (pre-ordered). Sprint has shown ZERO support for Windows Phone since it's launch. I remember being laughed at for trying to get the $50 pre-order gift card for my HTC Arrive when it launched last March.
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I've been with Sprint for about 4 years, and ditched them today for the Lumia 900 and AT&T (pre-ordered). Sprint has shown ZERO support for Windows Phone since it's launch. I remember being laughed at for trying to get the $50 pre-order gift card for my HTC Arrive when it launched last March.
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I hate to admit it, but I've been thinking of leaving Sprint for the Lumia 900 too after their lack of support for the Arrive. I'm trying my hardest to hold out though, I don't want to feel buyer's remorse when I see the snazzy new Apollo-based handsets come out a few months later. I know I'll want one of those instead simply because it's new.
I also went to my local Sprint store and asked about that $50 pre-order and nobody had a clue what I was talking about. They eventually called the manager who told me there was no need to pre-order and to just show up on the Sunday release date because there wouldn't be any lines or sell-outs for a Windows Phone. I'm glad I followed his advice because I saved $100 by ordering from Wirefly and still got it within days after it was released.
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I hate to admit it, but I've been thinking of leaving Sprint for the Lumia 900 too after their lack of support for the Arrive. I'm trying my hardest to hold out though, I don't want to feel buyer's remorse when I see the snazzy new Apollo-based handsets come out a few months later. I know I'll want one of those instead simply because it's new.
I also went to my local Sprint store and asked about that $50 pre-order and nobody had a clue what I was talking about. They eventually called the manager who told me there was no need to pre-order and to just show up on the Sunday release date because there wouldn't be any lines or sell-outs for a Windows Phone. I'm glad I followed his advice because I saved $100 by ordering from Wirefly and still got it within days after it was released.
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uptempo777 said:
This is a bummer. I'm on Sprint now with only the HTC Arrive and I do want to stay on it. Unfortunately I've been sold on the Nokia Lumia 900 so I'm gonna jump over to AT&T once that's out.
Kinda annoyed that both Sprint and Verizon both have exactly 1 Windows Phone. Seriously lame.
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I may be reaching a bit but I think Microsoft may be party to blame here, if you remember Windows Phone didnt have ANY CDMA support when it was initially released in November 2010, it wasnt until 6 months later when the Arrive came out that there was a CDMA windows phone anywhere maybe if there was CDMA and GSM support in the beginning Sprint and Verizon would have put in more effort
Meh. Sprint and Verizon chose to use, and keep using, a cellular technology that very little of the rest of the world uses (some in China, and I few other countries, but the majority is overwhelmingly GSM). NoDo wasn't *that* long in coming, and it's been more than a year since it shipped. At the rate that phones come out these days, that's plenty of time.
I have no problem with sprint releasing another EVDO WP.. So long as I continue paying $40/mnth
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Meh. Sprint and Verizon chose to use, and keep using, a cellular technology that very little of the rest of the world uses (some in China, and I few other countries, but the majority is overwhelmingly GSM). NoDo wasn't *that* long in coming, and it's been more than a year since it shipped. At the rate that phones come out these days, that's plenty of time.
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I totally agree. Pre-orderer the Nokia Lumia 900 and am saying bye to Sprint. Thanks for the low cost plans Sprint but you guys suck when it comes to having actual good phones.
I really love the Lumia 900 but I went to price plans with AT&T and it costs almost 40% more than what I have with sprint, not to mention the fact that data is capped. I'm definitely frustrated with Sprint's lack of focus with 4G and WP7 but 40% is 40%.
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I may be reaching a bit but I think Microsoft may be party to blame here, if you remember Windows Phone didnt have ANY CDMA support when it was initially released in November 2010, it wasnt until 6 months later when the Arrive came out that there was a CDMA windows phone anywhere maybe if there was CDMA and GSM support in the beginning Sprint and Verizon would have put in more effort
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I will agree that Microsoft was partly to blame for the INITIAL sludge in to the CDMA market with Sprint and Verizon... however, it has been nearly 13 months now since the Trophy and Arrive were released on the two carriers. There is further opportunity for new devices, but both Verizon and Sprint have put their marketing focus behind iPhone (and some Android).
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I really love the Lumia 900 but I went to price plans with AT&T and it costs almost 40% more than what I have with sprint, not to mention the fact that data is capped. I'm definitely frustrated with Sprint's lack of focus with 4G and WP7 but 40% is 40%.
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My problem with Sprint isn't the price, it is the speed and availability. I travel weekly, and have resorted to carrying a back-up phone (Samsung Focus unlocked on T-Mobile) due to limited service and speed on Sprint's network. Sprint is perfectly fine in major metropolitan areas, but smaller cities (like Fort Wayne, IN where I was last week) leaves a lot to be desired.
If and when Sprint decides to make the jump to LTE, they are going to be at least 12-18 months behind the competition in network expansion. I'm more than happy to pay a premium price for a premium service.
Sprint has always been good to me. It sucks they only have one wp7 phone but for some reason cherish the iPhone.
I have been with sprint for almost 10 years now. In the last 2 years I have seen them add a $10 fee per smart phone(on a family plan that is an extra $50 a month), they increased the cost of my additional lines, they have taken away the premiere program, while in a 4G city I can't get 4g, and their their 3g speeds gotten have extremely slow. I would like to stay with sprint because it is a big hardware investment to switch carriers but sprint hasn't made it very easy for me. Now they are lacking in the windows phone offereings. I have a couple of Zune HD users in my house and they really want a WP7 phone but are not pleased with the idea of the arrive. I think sprint was banking too much on the iphone giving them a jump start because of their unlimited data but it has panned out as well as they had hoped. I think this is why why they have ignored the WP7 platform.
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Sprint has always been good to me. It sucks they only have one wp7 phone but for some reason cherish the iPhone.
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Not surprising. I'm sure they want to play the "wait and see" game after the Palm Pre didn't do as well as they hoped and they want to go with something that has already proven successful on other carriers.
I would've stayed with sprint but their 3G speeds were getting far too unbearable here in Chicago and the suburbs, plus so many broken promises on when they would fix the towers,it just wasn't worth the $97 I was paying,now with T-mobile I get 10GB of full speed, 500 talk,unlimited text for $100 and my speeds are better than they ever were on sprint, even my throttled speeds are faster than sprint.
Sprint has a LG phone on the way. Its been articles on the net today.
AT&T is way over priced.
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Sprint has a LG phone on the way. Its been articles on the net today.
AT&T is way over priced.
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Is the LG phone gonna be better than the Nokia Lumia 900?
After an e-mail to Verizon to complain about the treatment of the Galaxy Nexus, I actually received a response, so I thought I would share it here. The takeaway is that Verizon lists their policy for updates, blames Samsung and Google, and says there is no update in the works for the next month. Probably makes no difference, but couldn't hurt for everyone to also e-mail a complaint.
I am so sorry to read of your frustrations with Verizon and the lack of updates for the Galaxy Nexus. I definitely understand your annoyance with not getting the updates for it and no information available for the next update. I have a phone that feels like I waited forever to get it updated to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, and it drove me mad that there was not information about when it would be released.
Not only as a company but also as your personal Verizon representative we want to provide you with any and all information. We realize that cell phones have become our lifeline to communication whether it’s through apps, calls, text, or email; and want to match sure that your device has all the software updates to work. I reviewed Verizon Wireless New Software Upgrades to be released this month and there is no indication that there will be an update for the Nexus.
The updates that Verizon provides are for the sole purpose of enhancing the way the phone works and communicates with Verizon towers and network. When a software update is sent out in relation to the operating system, which is done so by the Manufacturer. The plans and action to update the software are done with either Google (Android developer) or my Samsung (User Interface developer).
We absolutely want you to have the most up to date software for your phone and if there is anything we can do to get that to you, we definitely will. Something that you can try to see if there is an update hanging around is going to:
• Settings
• About Phone
• System Updates
We appreciate your loyalty with Verizon Wireless through all these years, and certainly don’t want to see you go. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to go over this information with you.
with the 'leaked' Verizon update from Google's servers, I'm not in that big of a hurry. IMM76K was pulled from Google's servers long before Verizon pushed it. They're obviously working on it since we have a Google url for the jb update and it was sent to a test phone.
They are dicks at Verizon. They don't update phones and a lot of their phones don't function as well as their GSM counterparts. If you want to stay on their network you are going to have to deal with their garbage. You will never have a full Android experience on Verizon.
Going GSM unlocked was the best mobile decision I ever made. I am saving about $400 per year, I get updates and I am not locked to a carrier or its BS.
Straight Talk Sim Att may not have as good a network as Verizon, but its pretty darn close. Way worth it for me.
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All I have to say is LOL!!!! Glad I did the 4.1.1 leak when it came out. I am starting to have flashbacks to my days with the Droid X. Luckily this is a Nexus and I have more control of my phone.
Having worked as a customer service rep for a tech company, this letter is what they trained us to do.
Step 1 - show you understand the customers complaint by repeating it back to them.
Step 2 - show the customer empathy by telling them you've faced a similar issue and can understand their frustration.
Step 3 - politely let the customer know we as a company care about them and want to resolve their issue. If the issue can be resolved, resolve it. If it can not be resolved explain to them we are working on said issue and it is not the fault of the company but some other company/factor.
Step 4 - thank the customer for their feedback. Let them know they've been heard and are a valued customer.
Step 5 - ask if there is anything else you can do for them. And wish them a nice day.
You can now all work in customer service.
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Its funny cause Verizon doesn't update this phone. Stop blaming them.
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Smokeey said:
Its funny cause Verizon doesn't update this phone. Stop blaming them.
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Curious where you get that as an absolute...
Google says Verizon does control when it pushes
Verizon says Google has absolute control of it
Seems someone is fibbing, and Verizon has a worse track record...
I'm sorry but just root your phone.
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DSinfinite said:
I'm sorry but just root your phone.
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There are reasons that some of us can't root our phones and still use them with corporate networks.
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There are reasons that some of us can't root our phones and still use them with corporate networks.
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Hate to break it to you guys, but Verizon will never be able to (or try to) update its phones as quickly as the update that comes directly from google to the GSM models. Sorry, but that's just how it's going to be. This isn't some big revelation. If you buy any Verizon device expecting hasty updates, you're sadly going to be disappointed. I'm really tired of people complaining about this at this point.
Also, do you really expect some random CS rep at Verizon to give you a different response than the standard corporate line that you've been fed over and over again? I mean really, cmon guys. You're just grasping at nothing at this point.
Root your phone. Install jellybean. Good to go. If you want something go get it and do it yourself. Also new radios are out.
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Hate to break it to you guys, but Verizon will never be able to (or try to) update its phones as quickly as the update that comes directly from google to the GSM models. Sorry, but that's just how it's going to be. This isn't some big revelation. If you buy any Verizon device expecting hasty updates, you're sadly going to be disappointed. I'm really tired of people complaining about this at this point.
Also, do you really expect some random CS rep at Verizon to give you a different response than the standard corporate line that you've been fed over and over again? I mean really, cmon guys. You're just grasping at nothing at this point.
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Turns the iPhone is updated on Verizon with the rest of the iPhones. Even the LTE iPad is updated with the rest of the Apple products. So, possible yes, likely for anything else, probably not.
Nope, I got most of the result I expected from the Verizon rep and was just surprised at his exact words. I also thought it would be useful to share with other Verizon users that it doesn't appear to be coming in the next month either. I am actually sorry for positing it though. I thought I was sharing something useful. Clearly, I'm the only one that thought it was useful.
Again, rooting my phone does not work for me. I use two apps that check for root and do not work if rooted. One for work (no you can't use an app that hides root from it, that does not work) and one from my cable company. I have rooted an android phone in the past, and I know how to flash a phone. I know its asking a lot, but please do not post rooting as the answer again in this thread.
You just gotta drop Verizon. They are a joke. There phones are damaged and outdated before they even come out.
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The Verizon Nexus will get every update that the GSM model has coming to it (as long as Google doesn't push an update that is solely meant for the GSM model)
You just have to wait a little longer.
That's the way it works. And in my opinion, it's a decent compromise to make vs the GSM model. With the LTE Nexus, you get the extra 16GB of internal storage, LTE data speeds, and the fact that you're on probably the best network in terms of voice coverage.
And being a Google supported and updated Nexus device, you will get all the updates you have coming to you (until Google decides to stop pushing them, ala the Nexus One).
It might take 3 weeks. It might take 3 months. But you'll get them. The traditional method of device updates, where the carrier requests an update from the OEM, the OEM builds a new version of Android for the device, customizes it with their own UI, adds their apps, tests it, sends it to the carrier where they add their own network and bloatware apps, tests it, sends it back to the OEM for additional testing...doesn't apply.
Keep in mind that updates for other devices are also only updated if the carrier feels it's worth the time and money, as usually they have to pay the OEM for the update. If a device sells poorly, or if the carrier just has a policy where they won't request major updates after a set period of time regardless if the international versions of the device are well updated....you won't be getting an update. This is one of T-Mobile's business practices and why I left them after being a customer since their very beginning. The Samsung Vibrant I had was the only Galaxy S device in the world to never be updated to Gingerbread, and that's because only 5 months after the phone came out, they re-released it with a front facing camera and support for their 42Mbps network. Those were the only two changes as it was the same exact phone otherwise. After 8 months of the Vibrant's release, it was EOLed and never went past Froyo.
Look, Verizon so far as had two devices that Google is in charge of updating direct from AOSP...the Xoom and the Galaxy Nexus. The Xoom had gotten every single incremental Honeycomb update that the WiFi model received. It got ICS, albeit after a bit of a delay. The LTE Nexus, mind you, was the first to get 4.0.2 right out of the gate, and it also received 4.0.4, after a bit of a delay as well. Looking at it another way, both the LTE Xoom (which didn't sell very well) and the GNex have already gotten more updates than most devices do in their typical 2-year lifespan.
Looking at it objectively, all things considering, it's really not as bad as people are making it out to be. It's not like the carrier is refusing to keep the device updated. It's not like the OEM has to go through hoops to keep the device updated. Both devices are and will continue to be extremely well-supported by Google. You just have to wait a little longer than their GSM counterparts. And also keep in mind, official Google builds of both devices get leaked early all of the time. So, there's that.
Not to be a Negative Nancy, but LTE cuts your battery life in half, makes the phone thicker, and so far the LTE Nexus is 2 months behind the actual "Nexus". I wouldn't count on an update being in Verizons immediate plans. They could care less. And how many LTE Nexi have been sent back because of broken parts compared to the Google Play one. I learned to love Android again after I left Verizon, because they were ruining the entire experience for me.
Verizon does have its merits, but they are not worth all crap you have to go through with them. Verizon has the best coverage no doubt about it, but ST-Att coverage is still pretty good, just a little slower. I have had 1 dropped call and 1 data drop out in farm country in past 4 months. There is absolutely no reason to choose Verizon unless it is the absolute last and only choice one has for a mobile provider, which is probably only about 5% of the people in the country.
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Curious where you get that as an absolute...
Google says Verizon does control when it pushes
Verizon says Google has absolute control of it
Seems someone is fibbing, and Verizon has a worse track record...
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Absolute? You obviously haven't seen the OTA links then. You must be new.
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Not to be a Negative Nancy, but LTE cuts your battery life in half, makes the phone thicker, and so far the LTE Nexus is 2 months behind the actual "Nexus". I wouldn't count on an update being in Verizons immediate plans. They could care less. And how many LTE Nexi have been sent back because of broken parts compared to the Google Play one. I learned to love Android again after I left Verizon, because they were ruining the entire experience for me.
Verizon does have its merits, but they are not worth all crap you have to go through with them. Verizon has the best coverage no doubt about it, but ST-Att coverage is still pretty good, just a little slower. I have had 1 dropped call and 1 data drop out in farm country in past 4 months. There is absolutely no reason to choose Verizon unless it is the absolute last and only choice one has for a mobile provider, which is probably only about 5% of the people in the country.
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LTE does not cut your battery life "In half". That's a lie, or an opinion, either way it's wrong. On average (From what I have read) GSM GNexus users get around 3 1/2 hours of screen on usage, while I get about 3 with my LTE GNexus on Verizon. We could do more tests, but I bet you would rather just bash it some more.
I believe both GSM and LTE Nexus have both had a plethora of issues, to point out one but not the other is silly.
Android is the same on either phone, stock Android. It didn't change when you switched over.
I have never had a dropped call on my Gnexus (Had it since December), and only 1 or 2 data drops.
Verizon offers me unlimited data, at 20mb down, and 10mb up for $45. They have coverage damn near everywhere I go, and have always given me great customer service. Of all the bad things I have heard about the other three, I am glad to be on Verizon and have the chance to own a Nexus device through them, and I hope they offer another as I will be more than happy to buy that one too.
Sorry to hijack a bit OP but got tired of the baseless bashing.
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LTE does not cut your battery life "In half". That's a lie, or an opinion, either way it's wrong. On average (From what I have read) GSM GNexus users get around 3 1/2 hours of screen on usage, while I get about 3 with my LTE GNexus on Verizon. We could do more tests, but I bet you would rather just bash it some more.
I believe both GSM and LTE Nexus have both had a plethora of issues, to point out one but not the other is silly.
Android is the same on either phone, stock Android. It didn't change when you switched over.
I have never had a dropped call on my Gnexus (Had it since December), and only 1 or 2 data drops.
Verizon offers me unlimited data, at 20mb down, and 10mb up for $45. They have coverage damn near everywhere I go, and have always given me great customer service. Of all the bad things I have heard about the other three, I am glad to be on Verizon and have the chance to own a Nexus device through them, and I hope they offer another as I will be more than happy to buy that one too.
Sorry to hijack a bit OP but got tired of the baseless bashing.
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Ok I guess I was misinformed about the battery. Didn't know you could get 3 hrs screen on time. We can get more like 4 on GSM. The GSM Nexus doesn't have a plethora of issues, just yellow screen and horrible camera that all Nexi have. Android is not the same on the VZW one because the GSM one is on a newer version and is updated. Granted, wonderful things can be done with root. One selling point of a Nexus is speedy updates, and the VZW doesn't get them.
20mb down is great but most people have to use tiered data on Verizon's now, so that means nothing. And I pay $45 total for unlimited everything (2-3gbs data) on Atts network with Straight Talk, Not $90-$100 for cell service bound to a 2 year contract.
I am not trying to start an argument. I am just trying to let people know that there are much much better options out there than contracts and Verizon, even if Verizon tries to trick you into believing that they are the only "reliable" network or option.
Verizon also has had huge problems with the newer batch of nexus phones they put out. We get tons at work with signal cutting out on them. Verizon probably is trying to fix that before an update or then people will be really mad if it doesn't fix the signal issue.
All in all its Verizon trying to cover themselves as long as they possibly can.
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