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How do you know when an Extended Battery is full charged?

I just bought an extended battery (the Sprint Store one) and when it stops charging, it doesn't show the number of chargness anymore and it doesn't show the lightning bolt on the battery once the LED light is green. So do I just leave it overnight to charge?

It will be charged by the time you wake up in the morning lol

You sure? It doesn't show the charging icon on the battery... And I doubt a bigger battery would charge that fast?

Why don't you download battery monitor widget its free and shows all stats.
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Once you install it, just go into.settings and set update intervals to 60 seconds.
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yeah but how do you know its fully charged ? i thought evo only reads up to 1500 and stops when it reaches that

adrian2pm said:
yeah but how do you know its fully charged ? i thought evo only reads up to 1500 and stops when it reaches that
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It will still reads the accurate mA's + and -, why not just check the stats and watch when it hits 0mA's.
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so you have to have sbc to get a full charged? coz witout sbc it will not read 0

adrian2pm said:
so you have to have sbc to get a full charged? coz witout sbc it will not read 0
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Yes... SBC will get you maximum charge... if you don't use SBC then what you need to do is follow the instructions located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
Personally, I love SBC kernels. I've never had issues with them at all and it works great with my 3500mah battery.

adrian2pm said:
so you have to have sbc to get a full charged? coz witout sbc it will not read 0
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I am also running SBC and have been since I owned my evo.
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dirkyd3rk said:
I am also running SBC and have been since I owned my evo.
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well im fine with the stock kernel that came with gb..i just wanna make sure that it charges passed the 1500..

adrian2pm said:
well im fine with the stock kernel that came with gb..i just wanna make sure that it charges passed the 1500..
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It will not pass 1500 unless you use sbc, the stock kernel will stop at 90% but say it's at 100% to prevent overheating. So technically your initial drain will be really fast cause when you unplug your phone its really on 90% and not 100%. My phone has never overheated or any weird issue you would expect to happen.
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dirkyd3rk said:
It will not pass 1500 unless you use sbc, the stock kernel will stop at 90% but say it's at 100% to prevent overheating. So technically your initial drain will be really fast cause when you unplug your phone its really on 90% and not 100%. My phone has never overheated or any weird issue you would expect to happen.
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i dont mind the initial drop ..so when it hits 90% im only in 1400 not 3400?

adrian2pm said:
i dont mind the initial drop ..so when it hits 90% im only in 1400 not 3400?
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The ONLY way you're going to get full potential out of your battery is by using SBC kernels. HTC has a charging bug where it won't let you charge past 1500, so technically it will stop(go green) you at about 90% but shows 100%. Check out this thread with a bunch of kids using 3500 batteries; they're mad because they can't charge to 100% but if they use sbc they wont have that problem lol.
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-accessories/155216-how-long-charge-seidio-3500-batt-phone.html
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Where can I get one of those kernels? Can I use it with my Warm Rom? And how do I flash a kernel? Thanks.

Johnny Steps said:
Where can I get one of those kernels? Can I use it with my Warm Rom? And how do I flash a kernel? Thanks.
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Here's some info about kernels/sbc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880
To flash a kernel you need to make sure you only flash a sense kernel for a sense rom and aosp kernels for aosp or you phone might not boot beyond the evo logo(nothing major its easy fix). You find a compatible kernel and grab the package and boot into recovery and flash it. I'd recommended wiping dalvik cache after flashing a kernel.
Instructions
http://androidforums.com/evo-shift-all-things-root/293666-guide-how-flash-custom-roms-kernels.html
Here below is the direct link to the kernel that I would recommend for myn. Its the netatchy toast mod cfs with hdmi built in. Good luck
http://qap.la/~netarchy/netarchy-toastmod-4.3.4-cfs-havs-less-nosbc-universal-signed.zip

i dont know but its been a day and im still at 50% so i guess i dont need sbc

I have the seidio 3500mah extended battery and they recommend charging an extra 2-3 hours after it says full. I've found this to be true; if I pull it off right when it says full it will soon drop anywhere from 30-50% of the charge.

adrian2pm said:
i dont know but its been a day and im still at 50% so i guess i dont need sbc
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Yeah if its sleeping 80% of the time then I would expect it to last that long but not for heavy users.

I got two extended batteries. One in the phone and one on an external charger. I never use the cable to charge anymore. I just swap the batteries when my phone dies.
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I also have the Sprint extended.
I see people saying that the battery won't fully charge without SBC. Completely untrue.
Also untrue is that the phone will not charge past 1500. This doesn't make any sense to begin with -- why would they sell extended batteries if they don't work...? Or why would they sell it if consumers needed a special kernel that you can only get if you're rooted?
Perhaps the reason the people with 3500 batteries don't get the full 3500 charge is because most of those batteries aren't even 3500.
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You need to cycle charge it a few times and then you'll start seeing the battery life go up. I can get at around 2 days with light usage now.
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Honestly you don't need an SBC kernel at all, though it might extend the life a bit. It's completely a preference thing...
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Bad battery?

I have had some issues where my phone won't wake up so I have to pull the battery and when it reboots the battery drops like 20%. Is this a bad battery or what causes this?
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what rom are you running? if i remember correctly there was an issue with one of the roms but i cant remember. but I do remember it being an older rom that did that.
as for the batt. % i get that all the time even when i reboot..tho i get a bigger drop in % when the batter is lower.. like if i was at 50% batt power.. reboot then i would be like at 20% batt. power.. but it would stay at 20% for a really long time till it caught up with it. and sometimes the batter % would rise up a bit. but eventually start to go down again.
But maybe I have a bad battery also.. so im not sure...lol

Jeepguyxj said:
what rom are you running? if i remember correctly there was an issue with one of the roms but i cant remember. but I do remember it being an older rom that did that.
as for the batt. % i get that all the time even when i reboot..tho i get a bigger drop in % when the batter is lower.. like if i was at 50% batt power.. reboot then i would be like at 20% batt. power.. but it would stay at 20% for a really long time till it caught up with it. and sometimes the batter % would rise up a bit. but eventually start to go down again.
But maybe I have a bad battery also.. so im not sure...lol
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I had the exact same problem my phone would constantly reboot and shut itself off then I would lose half my battery % I thought it was the battery too so I returned it to stock and took it to sprint they looked at the phone for 2 hours and said there was absolutely nothing wrong with it or the battery. So I took it home and re rooted using Qbking77's latest method the one that does not give you the yellow triangle and I have not had one reboot or sleep of death since and the phone just runs soo much better now so I think it was a bad root for me. I would try re rooting with the latest method and see what that does for you. Also ya out of curiosity what rom are you using because I have heard similar stories from people running the ICS leaks.

studdmufin said:
I have had some issues where my phone won't wake up so I have to pull the battery and when it reboots the battery drops like 20%. Is this a bad battery or what causes this?
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In recovery, wipe your battery stats. May help after the phone calibrates.

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I had the exact same problem my phone would constantly reboot and shut itself off then I would lose half my battery % I thought it was the battery too so I returned it to stock and took it to sprint they looked at the phone for 2 hours and said there was absolutely nothing wrong with it or the battery. So I took it home and re rooted using Qbking77's latest method the one that does not give you the yellow triangle and I have not had one reboot or sleep of death since and the phone just runs soo much better now so I think it was a bad root for me. I would try re rooting with the latest method and see what that does for you. Also ya out of curiosity what rom are you using because I have heard similar stories from people running the ICS leaks.
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I'm running caulk's fc07 1.1 with the repacked kernal. It happened to me before on GB while also running caulk's rom but it only a few times. It seems to happen more now. Here is a screen of my battery
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I believe this would happen more in most recent ROMs because everyone is focusing how fast we can run it or how long we can use it. In either case, there are lots of tweaks and mechanism to make it fast and last long.
For the battery life, there is some background process monitoring unnecessary processes and kills those or tweaks to less frequently monitor the status. So, if the process which is related to battery life is killed, next time when it wake up, it may detect the different life time based on current Voltage or mA. I'm not an expert in this area but it's highly possible scenario. Tweaking the system brings lots of good things to us but in the other side, there could be some
side effect.
If you want to verify this theory, you can just compare the non tweaked rom versus tweaked Rom.
Be sure that you don't run any battery saver apps on non tweaked rom to measure it correctly.
Attached is my last screenshot yesterday after I removed the battery saver app. Currently I'm using Calk's Stock Rom FC07 (non tweaked version). Based on my test, the battery last longer than when battery save app installed and running.

Cool I didn't know that would be an issue. Well I'll try that thanks for help
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Also a note... with my experience anything to do with 3g service... I can kiss my batter life goodbye... if im at 100% battery life.. and i have 3g on... it will last around 5 hours and its dead

S2 2000mh official bettery v/s 3500mh unofficial

Just bought my 2000mh official bettery for my galaxy s2..Waiting for it eagerly ...but really would like to know that official 2000 mh bettery is good or unofficial 3500mh...plz share your experience
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me using 2000mah.. still not more than 20hours.. btw, ur name like malaysian.. where to find that 3500mah? is it big?

3500mh is available on ebay.com
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I've been using mine for a month or so.. Theoretically you should get about 20% more battery.
Tbh I don't notice much difference. But always nice to have a spare battery.

I have been using the original extended battery kit and i get easily an extra of 1 hour of screen time. It's just perfect.

Only one hour ?????
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not much different for me.. 10%-20% xtra.. heavy user here..

I've been using my 2000MAh batter for the last week and it's awesome.
On light days where I don't do much on my phone, I get about just over 2 days of battery.
On heavy days, I usually get enough to carry me to the evening with about 20% left, which is better than the previous 5% with the stock.
People must get crazy battery with 3500MAh batteries, but it probably ruins the aesthetics of the phone.

i am using official 2000mah battery kit and using wanamlite 10.7 rom with siyah kernel 3.0.1. all day i use 3g and bt for headset and battery drains about 35-40 hours...

vimpircik said:
i am using official 2000mah battery kit and using wanamlite 10.7 rom with siyah kernel 3.0.1. all day i use 3g and bt for headset and battery drains about 35-40 hours...
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im doubt 35-40 hours, even with 2000mah battery.
unpossible more than 24hours.

Ok guys..so today morning i have recieved my 2000mh official battery by samsung.. I charged it for 2 hours i pluged in at 1 pm and it was fully charged within 2 hours as it was already 58% charged when i unpacked it...so finally 3 pm to 12 Am till now i am still left with 10% battery which is another 1 hour..all i can say is overall good performance as compare to 1650mh battery..so mate dont think twice go for it as the backcover is also very fit to the device ..you won't feel much bulk at the back as it has been slightly increased by samsung and it goes with the design. ..for pictures upload and further details please feel free to reply to this message...
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hey there, kindly provide the pictures, thanks!

Ok guys ..i have clicked few pictures from my low resolution phone camera for your reference..here we go.
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I hope you liked it..battery is really good so far..i am able to get minimum 10 hours and maximum 16 hours backup ..depends upon on usage... Cheerzzz
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I use the stock 2000mah battery. I can get about 4hrs on average of screen on time with CM9 or stock ICS(mostly using wifi, but 3g is on when I go out). If i don't use it much, easy 1.5 days with about 1.5 hrs screen on time. This battery provide enough power for me to get through one day. I have a habit of charging before I go sleep. So after I use this 2000mah, I no longer worry about battery in the evening.

Cool! thanks for the photos....u guys are really tempting me to get the battery too...its worth my consideration

adik82 said:
Ok guys ..i have clicked few pictures from my low resolution phone camera for your reference..here we go.
I hope you liked it..battery is really good so far..i am able to get minimum 10 hours and maximum 16 hours backup ..depends upon on usage... Cheerzzz
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Thanks men, looks great!

wltklah said:
I use the stock 2000mah battery. I can get about 4hrs on average of screen on time with CM9 or stock ICS(mostly using wifi, but 3g is on when I go out). If i don't use it much, easy 1.5 days with about 1.5 hrs screen on time. This battery provide enough power for me to get through one day. I have a habit of charging before I go sleep. So after I use this 2000mah, I no longer worry about battery in the evening.
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I get 5.5 hours screen on time with stock 1600mah battery :/ somethings wrong on your end
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Thanks for the pictures !

Thank you guys for good explanation and nice pictures. Now i know what i'm going to buy

I think it's almost mandatory to have the original 2000mAh battery of this phone.
With it on and a good value for the rom got a good life.

[Q] Rom with the BEST battery life

hy guys i want to know which is the rom+kernel that gives the best battery life
POST YOUR SCREENSHOT

Any CM9 ROM, with underclocked & undervolted CPU, screenshot is following ^^
My battery lasts 36 hours (3G talk time)
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Notice, I was charging, but still quite some battery ^^

familyguy59 said:
Any CM9 ROM, with underclocked & undervolted CPU, screenshot is following ^^
My battery lasts 36 hours (3G talk time)
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Notice, I was charging, but still quite some battery ^^
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You charged your phone almost to full.
There is no best rom. Every device is different.
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you really have to experiment.
I've had a lot of luck with the Trinity Kernel on either AOKP or RAScream.

slimics with franco kernel
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Slim rom
I'm running default kernel and LOVING THIS ROM.

i'm able to get a combined 12 hours standby time with 4+ hours screen on time on either AOKP or Liquid. Kernels don't seem to change much there.

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Slim rom
I'm running default kernel and LOVING THIS ROM.
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mmm i'm running black ice 37 as you can see in the signature but slim rom is interesting....but when i saw super wipe i say cause the last time i used it my phone hasn't a system and i had only the recovery!

joshnichols189 said:
You charged your phone almost to full.
There is no best rom. Every device is different.
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Sorry, but no. I had only just started to charge, lolz... The phone was literally charging for less than 30 seconds, then I posted the screenshot ^^

masterchif92 said:
hy guys i want to know which is the rom+kernel that gives the best battery life
POST YOUR SCREENSHOT
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Why don't you make a list of each rom you want to try, then take the time to flash each one and run each for about a week. Since battery life and performance is directly related to each users set up and personal style of use. This way in about 4 or 5 weeks you can actually make a determination on your own as to what is best for you.
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familyguy59 said:
Sorry, but no. I had only just started to charge, lolz... The phone was literally charging for less than 30 seconds, then I posted the screenshot ^^
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In the middle of the graph, it goes from red all the way up to ~85%. The green bar below the graph also shows how long it's been charging which is DEFINITELY not 30 seconds.

best battery life is very subjective to the user. and remember that the display on this phone is power hungry to say the least. i hope that very soon all phones will come out with non removable batteries. people that need extra power can carry a portable power pack instead of an extra battery. and for those who complain about the longevity of the battery have obviously never used a phone with built in battery or done their research and are simply relying on that crutch of being able to swap the battery just because they can.
WOW...anyway....my point when i started this was that no one can tell you what works best for you...you have to figure that out on your own.

Faideelah said:
In the middle of the graph, it goes from red all the way up to ~85%. The green bar below the graph also shows how long it's been charging which is DEFINITELY not 30 seconds.
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You'll be surprised, I had only just plugged it in, just then. But never mind, we're not here to argue, are we?

familyguy59 said:
You'll be surprised, I had only just plugged it in, just then. But never mind, we're not here to argue, are we?
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So your phone magically regained battery life?
You can clearly see the green charging bar in the middle, not to mention the fact that battery graphs don't go up by themselves.

I was using BlackICE 37 w/ the newest Air Kernel for a while and was experiencing some really good battery life!
I then tried Slim ROM with the same kernel and the battery life was ok...I'm now using the Samurai Kernel and I'm liking it!
Sorry no screenshots, but I have had 17hrs at 50% (about 7hrs were standby cuz I was asleep and didn't plug my phone in to charge over night!)

I'm on AOKP and Franco kernel its pretty good for me, I'm not getting 36 hours a charge but its better than put of the box.
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fk.gregor said:
I'm on AOKP and Franco kernel its pretty good for me, I'm not getting 36 hours a charge but its better than put of the box.
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That's okay, neither is the person that claimed they were.

edfunkycold said:
Why don't you make a list of each rom you want to try, then take the time to flash each one and run each for about a week. Since battery life and performance is directly related to each users set up and personal style of use. This way in about 4 or 5 weeks you can actually make a determination on your own as to what is best for you.
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The purpose of this thread is not just to help me in finding a rom that will give me some battery life but is also an opportunity to compare various types of rom + kernel in circulation as there are significant combinations of these do not take it as a joke but I think the comparison is the best solution to see what can be achieved with this device best regards

masterchif92 said:
The purpose of this thread is not just to help me in finding a rom that will give me some battery life but is also an opportunity to compare various types of rom + kernel in circulation as there are significant combinations of these do not take it as a joke but I think the comparison is the best solution to see what can be achieved with this device best regards
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No I'm sorry if you took my comment as being strong, I was just trying to give you and whomever else some advice. Yes people can share what they like and what combinations they are using but again each users setup and each users personal style of utilizing their phone will be the final determining factor as to what is best for them. Did not take this thread as a joke at all.
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edfunkycold said:
No I'm sorry if you took my comment as being strong, I was just trying to give you and whomever else some advice. Yes people can share what they like and what combinations they are using but again each users setup and each users personal style of utilizing their phone will be the final determining factor as to what is best for them. Did not take this thread as a joke at all.
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is in fact what I would do with this thread is to gather a bit 'of screen and then publish them on the start page so as to assist new users in selecting the ROM according to their needs, then of course every result will be based on usage of 'but if you can get many statistics can make an average of everyone!

Battery Life after new rom

Hi everyone
I just installed the Darkside 3 #8 - with all the steps outlined but am finding the battery life is BRUTAL - barely getting 8 hours out of my phone.
Does anyone have suggestions on what I can do to get the phone working through the day?
Does the phone take a few days to "get used" to the new ROM to allow the battery to settle down?
Thanks in advance!

freshiem said:
Hi everyone
I just installed the Darkside 3 #8 - with all the steps outlined but am finding the battery life is BRUTAL - barely getting 8 hours out of my phone.
Does anyone have suggestions on what I can do to get the phone working through the day?
Does the phone take a few days to "get used" to the new ROM to allow the battery to settle down?
Thanks in advance!
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I have read that turning your 4G off when not using your phone helps battery last longer. I have not tried out though. How long ago did you install the Rom? I know you have to let it sit for a couple days to get the full battery results
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Thanks for the response! The phone has been on the new rom for two days - I will wait a couple of days to see how it goes!

You also may want to try to determine the cause of your battery drain using a couple free apps from the playstore. I suggest using GSAM battery monitor and CPU Spy.

Rod3 said:
You also may want to try to determine the cause of your battery drain using a couple free apps from the playstore. I suggest using GSAM battery monitor and CPU Spy.
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Thanks Rod3 - I have installed GSAM I will see if there is an app thats killing my battery.
I restored apps via titanium, I am wondering if I should have just done a a fresh install.

freshiem said:
Thanks Rod3 - I have installed GSAM I will see if there is an app thats killing my battery.
I restored apps via titanium, I am wondering if I should have just done a a fresh install.
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i dont like to restore apps with titanium,has caused issues in the past befor. Why dont you try reflashing and installing your apps manually (my opinion. and see if it persists, have you tried calibrating your battery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1616598

You can try infamous 2.8.6 rom. Out of all the ICS roms I've tried so far, this one gives me the best battery life.

theeze said:
You can try infamous 2.8.6 rom. Out of all the ICS roms I've tried so far, this one gives me the best battery life.
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Thanks! Did you restore you restore via Titanium or a fresh install?

freshiem said:
Hi everyone
I just installed the Darkside 3 #8 - with all the steps outlined but am finding the battery life is BRUTAL - barely getting 8 hours out of my phone.
Does anyone have suggestions on what I can do to get the phone working through the day?
Does the phone take a few days to "get used" to the new ROM to allow the battery to settle down?
Thanks in advance!
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I had a similar issue on the same ROM but V7. I just put up a post a tip thread on how to improve battery life. In no way am i trying to hijack your thread, just trying to help people track the problem down. I get 17 -26 hours of battery depending on how heavy i use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800247

tjbiker031 said:
I had a similar issue on the same ROM but V7. I just put up a post a tip thread on how to improve battery life. In no way am i trying to hijack your thread, just trying to help people track the problem down. I get 17 -26 hours of battery depending on how heavy i use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800247
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thanks so much tjbiker031! I will try out your suggestions!
This is driving me nuts...7 hrs of minimal use and at 25%!
Maybe my battery is fried!

freshiem said:
thanks so much tjbiker031! I will try out your suggestions!
This is driving me nuts...7 hrs of minimal use and at 25%!
Maybe my battery is fried!
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No problem. I don't think your battery is fried, calibrate your battery and take some ideas from my thread. oh by the way, i personally avoid widgets, its like a constantly running program.

Just an update everyone! So I got so frustrated that I clean installed the Infamous 2.8.6, no restores, charged battery to 100%, callibrated, etc
and the battery seems much better - it looks like i might actually go a whole 11 hours without a battery charge.
Thanks for all your help everyone!

Darkside v8 gave you bad battery life? Hmm.. with the le1 modded radio this rom has given me they best battery life yet. I was only about to charge to 56% yesterday. Phone went 18 hours... oh btw eugenes battery saver script helps ALOT. Phone sleeps like a hibernating bear.
This is where I'm currently at
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Any time you flash a new ROM you should give it a few power cycles to get everything settled, and calibrated, typically around a week of use.

Hey guys I use plume for twitter and I noticed its using over half my battery are there any other twitter alternates that are easy on the battery?
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Agreed.. CPU sleeper is a huge saver. Darkside ROM has been AMAZING battery life. Setcpu on badass, juice defender ultimate.. easy 24 hour battery life WITH a functional phone. I've been sold. Also ANKER batteries are legit. My 2 more than fulfill my needs.
TMO SGS2, Darkside 3v8, Kernel Venom 3#5, UVLC8