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[Q] Losing internal phone storage space on EVO

Has anyone on EVO come across this problem. I keep getting low disk space on my EVO. I uninstall apps to get more internal space, but then it drops again. On Friday I had approx 48mb of internal storage, then by 4:00pm I had 323 kb. I uninstalled a bunch of apps and now I am back at around 48mb.
I went into sd and storage to monitor my space. I also went into menu settings/ applications to see what was taking up the space. By chance I noticed that my Mail icon in the morning was at about 75mb and when I checked it that afternoon it was at 111mb. I called sprint tech support and we deleted/ then added my email accounts again to see if that would clear up space. We also set the max amount of space for msgs to 25 kb. text only. This seems to be working, but still under my mail settings under applications, the MAIL still shows using up about 95mb of storage.
Sprint tech support states that that is really high, but for some reason it is not something that can be erased. Of course I can always do a wipe, but that is always as a last resort. Just trying to gain back some of that precious internal storage.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks

In the few years I spent supporting mobile phones for companies low internal storage space was almost always caused by pictures, mp3s, and movies.
So how much of that do you have on your phone?

deathsled said:
In the few years I spent supporting mobile phones for companies low internal storage space was almost always caused by pictures, mp3s, and movies.
So how much of that do you have on your phone?
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The EVO saves that kind of media to the SD card.
OP, what ROM are you running?

I know that apps like streamfurious will cache its content and store it to the phones memory. It can Max you out in a matter of hours. Do you use streaming apps?

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I know that apps like streamfurious will cache its content and store it to the phones memory. It can Max you out in a matter of hours. Do you use streaming apps?
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A misbehaving app is probably the culprit. I'd really recommend Cachemate in the market. There's a chance that one run of that may solve your problem.
Also, if OP is running CyanogenMod w/ Turbo that'll occupy a good amount of internal memory as well.

I use Xiia Live llite. Usually in the evening. . I'll check that out and see if it shows how much is cached.
Thanks

I'll check it out. thanks. Ok it cleared about 3mb.
My mail icon still shows 99 mb of data. If you go menu, settings,applications, manage applications, It brings up everything that you have installed. You can list them by size. The Mail icon HTC, is the one taking up all the space. is there any way to eliminate it? I am running rooted 2.1. I will probably OTA to 2.2 tonight and unrevoke 3.21. Don't know if this will help.
Thanks

I'm running into low storage also.... I have alot of apps but have moved most to sd card that I can... Anymore tips to get storage back?

[Q] 32 gb mico SD card repeatedly "damages" itself for no good reason

Hi all,
I have an Epic 4G for Sprint, never unlocked, stock ROM Android 2.2.1 EC05.
I recently bought and inserted a 32 gb microSDcard from Amazon (search "Patriot Signature 32 GB Class 10 MicroSDHC Flash Memory Card PSF32GMCSDHC10", can't insert hyperlinks yet).
I once made the mistake of NOT unmounting the card when disconnecting from my Windows 7 64-bit desktop. The phone told me the card was damaged and had to be formatted. I did this and everything seemed back to normal, although my card was wiped clean.
Since then the phone has randomly shown me with the same message twice, even when it has not been plugged into a PC or a wall charger for hours. Wiping the card clean has been my only option both times.
Ever since the failed Froyo update and the patch, my phone has had multiple annoyances, sudden freezes of the notification pulldown etc. I can't exactly pinpoint when the MicroSD failure happens or if something causes it. otherwise the card is fast and read/write speeds are excellent - 30.91 gb available. Both times the phone was at low battery, but not zero battery.
I do have Advanced Task Killer (start when Android starts) and a free app to move apps 2 SD. Both were downloaded from the Market.
Please help! Not having reliable memory means I can't do much with my phone at all. If its a bad card, then oh no! But if there are ways to troubleshoot or just discard this card and get another one.

When you format the card, are you doing it from within the phone or Windows?

Always from my phone. It won't let me do anything else unless I format it.

Try taking it out of the phone, then formatting it directly from the computer, FAT32 format.

Put it in an SD card adapter, formatted to FAT 32 in Windows. That took half an hour. Everything is good so far. Any other precautions I can take ? Thanks again.
Alternately, is there a SD card and/or phone contacts backup utility you guys recommend.

If your contacts are saved to your google account it should automatically sync them.
Alternatively, you could save them to your SD card and then copy the entire contents of your SD card to your computers HD.

There is a bunch of generic micro sd 32gb cards that do not function properly even they are not truly 32gb as they say, I had one of those and nothing but problems I think it was like around actual 4gb but they made to appear like 32gb.
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Fyi: loose advance task killer. There is no need for it on newer android devices and causes more problems
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MysteryEmotionz said:
Fyi: loose advance task killer. There is no need for it on newer android devices and causes more problems
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I'd disagree. Don't run it in the background or use the autokill functions, but it does let you kill more apps than the built in task manager. That's useful for when some apps freeze or get started in the background but aren't showing in task manager.

MysteryEmotionz said:
Fyi: loose advance task killer. There is no need for it on newer android devices and causes more problems
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I'm surprised there aren't many more advocates of Watchdog on here. It's a very efficient monitor of app activity, much smarter, and gives you much better options to decide whether you really need to kill an app process or not (rarely should you need to). The widget on my home screen has become essential for me.

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I'm surprised there aren't many more advocates of Watchdog on here. It's a very efficient monitor of app activity, much smarter, and gives you much better options to decide whether you really need to kill an app process or not (rarely should you need to). The widget on my home screen has become essential for me.
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I use watchdog and os monitor. Between those to I have a much better experience work my phone.
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[Q] Is there a way to get rid of "internal" SD on Galaxy E4GT?

Ok i'm a bit of a noob so bare with me here... i have a 32GB SD card i'm using on my Galaxy E4GT but it only shows up as a folder in my "internal" SD so i cant really use it other then dead storage to make space.. i want the internal SD to be gone and just be phone memory so then my External SD card can be my other main memory .. so in a nutshell i guess i'm asking to be able to get rid of the "internal" SD and give its space to the actual phone and for the only other memory to be my External SD.. can this be done? and how?

I really don't understand what you're trying to ask, but I think you're confused about how external storage is being stored.
For starters, the internal SD can not be deleted. It's not even an option, it's like, taking the transmission out of a car. The car won't work. Your phone needs it's internal storage.
Your external storage is *mounted* (Google it) as /sdcard/external_sd/, meaning Android conveniently creates a "shorcut" folder to your external SD in your internal SD. Very similar to how when you plug in your phone to your WIndows computer, you see a new "Drive" in "My Computer".
Now that I re-read your message, I believe you're thinking your /external_sd/ folder is limited to the size of the internal SD (which is 16 GB). Like I explained, it's simply a shortcut for you. You're *not* limited to the size of the internal SD. In there is your 32GB external SD.
Hope I helped.

I think his problem is kind of what I was asking in my music thread. On the OG epic everything downloaded went straight to external sd storage. While I know it didn't have dual storage like this phone. This phone seems to not use the link to the external storage correct.
For example everytime I DL music from a playlist no matter what app it goes to the internal memory, not to the external memory. It seems that there needs to be a way to have the external memory link not sit inside a place in the internal memory so that downloads go there. Right now most of the time they sit in .../sdcard rather than find there way to .../sdcard/external_sd (or whatever it is).
I saw a link somewhere for a different device to swap internal and external but didn't get a chance to read it yet. that may solve the problem but i'm not sure. I wish it worked as easy as the OG epic so I could put my music playlists onto external and have them play/show up correctly.
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StormGlove I
Hit the nail on the head.. Thats exactly what I'm talking about... The phone turns your External SD Card into dead storage space.. You can't run anything from inside it (Like Music or Games) and you can't make it your main SD Memory. What I want to know is how can I merge the "Internal SD" with the "Phone's Memory" to make them one.. So that the only two forms of memory on the phone are "Phone Memory" and "External SD Card".
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you can't... it wouldn't make sense to want to be able to do that..
you could, through some hackery, switch the mount points and make external show as /sdcard and internal as /sdcard/external_sd for whatever reason.. but without repartitioning your phone... you aren't going to be able to do much more..
im still kind of lost on what is wrong with the internal sd?
btw music plays just fine from the external, and you can install games to and from the external.. i think you may have a misunderstanding of how it works..

EnVy MoNtOyA said:
StormGlove I
Hit the nail on the head.. Thats exactly what I'm talking about... The phone turns your External SD Card into dead storage space.. You can't run anything from inside it (Like Music or Games) and you can't make it your main SD Memory. What I want to know is how can I merge the "Internal SD" with the "Phone's Memory" to make them one.. So that the only two forms of memory on the phone are "Phone Memory" and "External SD Card".
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What? I am able to play all my music stored on the /external_sd/music folder without issues. I am using poweramp though
I guess if you could modify the fstab file you might be able to have it in a way so it ignores the 'internal SD' and links it directly to the real SD card. Now if the phone will be able to work properly afterward is another issue but I don't see why not.

I understand music plays fine one moved there. I haven't tried poweramp yet. But for instance with double twist or Amazon mp3 when you sync playlists or any song it saves to internal memory without any option to sync to external. If you move the music to external the playlist won't work anymore. Yes the song will play but no playlist without remaking it.
I have no problems with using internal but it fills up pretty quick. As far as games I don't have any comment as I just leave those on internal memory. Thanks for the responses though. And maybe I'll try and use power amp to sync playlists.
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I understand music plays fine one moved there. I haven't tried poweramp yet. But for instance with double twist or Amazon mp3 when you sync playlists or any song it saves to internal memory without any option to sync to external. If you move the music to external the playlist won't work anymore. Yes the song will play but no playlist without remaking it.
I have no problems with using internal but it fills up pretty quick. As far as games I don't have any comment as I just leave those on internal memory. Thanks for the responses though. And maybe I'll try and use power amp to sync playlists.
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Yeah, moving it after youve sync'd it most definately won't work, if it's saved to that location then you move it from that location, it's going to keep looking for it in the original location.
I've never used Amazon Mp3 or DoubleTwist, so I can't say maybe you guys are missing an option. Make sure you throroughly read and check all available settings in both programs.
All I know is that the externsl SD does not become dead storage, as I use mine everyday and play music, videos, view pictures, move/zip CWM backups, everything.
Maybe you can try uninstalling Amazon Mp3 /Doubletwist, reinstall, then before running it even once move it to your external SD. Then run it/set it up once it's in your external SD. Maybe that'll force it to save to your external SD.

I know its not dead space, haha. I wasn't completing about that, and I searched all over, its those apps. Google music is the same. There were numerous complaints on all there websites about not having a choice where to DL to, making the extremal in dual storage phones like ours, become useless when trying to get playlist off our computers onto them.
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Ok as for music i use Google music and my offline music wont show when moved to External SD.. games is the same.. they just dont look for the External SD directory... im assuming that there is just one big hunk of memory in the phone and its partitioned into two parts (Phone Memory and Internal SD). If i can get rid of the partition that separates the two and just make it so that its all just phone memory without Internal SD.. the phone would be faster wouldn't it? and when i use my SD card it will just show up as SD card leaving only two sources to save or move things around to? again i could be way off and totaly wrong.. im only a noob at this point but im open to wisdom and learning as much as i can since im going to be a android user FOREVER

I am using "Media Monkey", and have no problems copying to the external SD. As a matter of fact, all of my music is sitting on the external. Its also (I think) the best music app available...
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I guess my question is the 500mb of RAM just partitioned off the mass storage sd internal like the 2gb of memory for apps? Or is it 500mb chip in there seperate some where? Which im guessing it ia since it would have to run at a faster clock than the internal sd can
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bluefire808 said:
I guess my question is the 500mb of RAM just partitioned off the mass storage sd internal like the 2gb of memory for apps? Or is it 500mb chip in there seperate some where? Which im guessing it ia since it would have to run at a faster clock than the internal sd can
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Its my understanding that the memory used by the applications and RAM is shared on the same chipset that it's separate from the storage (internal SD) chipset. Checking the teardowns on http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Epic-4G-Touch-Teardown/6481/2 shows that 16GB chip being separate but the one that holds the RAM and internal app storage is not described there.

Actually what the op is asking can work. It would need kernel changes tho and mappings of partitions changed. So that the primary partition (where the OS is installed) becomes say 1gb. Then the rest goes to internal storage (where all apps go.) Then nothings left for a "internal SD." Then the SD card can be used as the only storage.
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Actually what the op is asking can work. It would need kernel changes tho and mappings of partitions changed. So that the primary partition (where the OS is installed) becomes say 1gb. Then the rest goes to internal storage (where all apps go.) Then nothings left for a "internal SD." Then the SD card can be used as the only storage.
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OMG! YES! Finally someone who truly understands what im saying... you said it much better then i did for sure.. but yes thats exactly it.. i heard of someone doing work on this but i cant find the thread anymore.. it was called "*something* partition Mod" but it was for some other phone... if this could be done it would truly make my day and my phone would be perfect! im willing to help make it happen how ever i can ... unfortunately i dont know anything about coding or kernels but if there is another way i can help jus let me know.

I agree this phone does handle memory in a retarded way. Like for example when you move apps to sd it shows your available internal space but when you switch the app it goes to the actual sd card. So you'll notice that as you're switching them the amount available in internal is not decreasing but when you check your sd space you'll notice its memory decreased. However all my music is on the sd and I have no issue with it playing or creating playlists. Maybe you moved the files to sd and you had created the playlist while it was on internal so now it can't find it.. For the most part you can go into most apps setting and change between which memory you want to store internal or sd.
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Yes I can create playlist and play them on the external. The problem is I have Some big playlists on my comp I want to put onto external without having to recreate them. So far I've been unsuccessful. I do need to try media play still though.
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8gb tablet only showing 5gb avail whiped

I don't know when this happened but my tablet is missing more then 3gb of avail memory (only shows 5.45gb total space which can't be right) Only thing i can remember that gave me the most trouble was trying to get ubuntu to work on the side with android using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987740 only to find it was getting all sort of errors with the repositories so i ended up deleting it but still i know that seeing a few hundred meg to a gig is normal but a lil over 3gigs missing entirely something gotta be wrong x.x
Anyhelp out there since can't connect this to my mintbox netbook so i could check the partitions an make sure nothing is abnormal

Its totally normal, its what the Android team introduced with Honeycomb, universal storage, all 8GB a100s show 5 or so due to Android system etc.
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well i feel like a dork now :x I have a captivate that has ICS on it an it shows 1.83gb used for internal an the remaining 13gb on the internal (16gb cappy) But sheesh lot of memory being used x.x

Ya just how it is. Thats why I have a 32gb sdcard in there for my videos and music. I leave the 5.45gb for apps only. And if I have games that require mass amount of data to be downloaded then I use GL to SD app so it stores those game data to sdcard. Root is required to use GL to SD though. With this setup I havent had the need to delete apps or even bloatware. I'm sure I have over 100 apps in mine.
rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487142
GL to SD
https://market.android.com/details?...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.
Theres also a mod to make your SDcard as your internal. So basically the 5.45gb will act like an external drive while your SDcard will be your internal memory. But if you go this route might be good to have class4 card or higher.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422158

I've been using the sd swapped since i got my tablet downgraded back to HC with ICS I was ending up using to much of internal storage with game data an other content.

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I've been using the sd swapped since i got my tablet downgraded back to HC with ICS I was ending up using to much of internal storage with game data an other content.
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I hear ya man thats why I'm still on HC till we get perm root. I have tried the SD swap but my 32 gb is almost full already so after I was all done I was left with about 2gb space. About the same if I just went with GL to SD so wasnt really worth going through all the trouble doing the sd swap. Plus I remove my SD card constantly so for my rom to be ran from it wouldn't be a good idea for me.

My 32 GB SD card is on its way, I never thought too much about music etc on my tablet seeing as my phone has 16 GB but now that I practically live with my tab, Daddy needs more space baby
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How to mount S3 as a Disk Drive

Is there any way to mount the S3 as a disk drive, like I could do on my HTC Evo.
The problem I am having as my new car only recognizes devices as mass storage, mounted as a disk drive. So when i plug it in for music it doesn not recognize the files.
My Galaxy is rooted so any if there is anyway to have an option to mount as a disk drive would be great.
Thanks
Will

stealth-twinturbo said:
Is there any way to mount the S3 as a disk drive, like I could do on my HTC Evo.
The problem I am having as my new car only recognizes devices as mass storage, mounted as a disk drive. So when i plug it in for music it doesn not recognize the files.
My Galaxy is rooted so any if there is anyway to have an option to mount as a disk drive would be great.
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Will
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Nor possible. I you can only mount external sd card
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stealth-twinturbo said:
Is there any way to mount the S3 as a disk drive, like I could do on my HTC Evo.
The problem I am having as my new car only recognizes devices as mass storage, mounted as a disk drive. So when i plug it in for music it doesn not recognize the files.
My Galaxy is rooted so any if there is anyway to have an option to mount as a disk drive would be great.
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Will
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Don't think we have a way yet. I feel your pain.I f*cking hate MTP.despise it infact.give it time tho I'm sure someone will get it

I have all my music on a external micro sd card, and its still not able to mount as a disk drive. Is there a way to just mount the external SD card??
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yeah I'm about to return this pos phone! Damn MTP bull**** I can't syncrhonize folders anymore to backup sd card! What bull****.. not only that so far wireless and mobile has been slower than my EVO 3D. I can't believe people can say this phone is better it has all sorts of issues that make it worse.
No USB Mass Storage
Data speeds seem horrible compared to EVO's
SG3 UMS I can't get to work either
I use Link2SD and every damn time I boot this phone up it goes through optimizing my 255 applications! What the heck? The more I use this phone the worse it seems not better!

molitar said:
No USB Mass Storage
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molitar said:
Data speeds seem horrible compared to EVO's
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Dont know about EVO, but this phone gives me the best data speed I've ever gotten, way better than on my old 4G slider.
molitar said:
SG3 UMS I can't get to work either
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Thats because there is no UMS, as mentioned earlier in your rant. However, MTD has worked pretty well for me, transfered 2000+ songs over using MediaMonkey. You can also transfer other file types in explorer or use ES File explorer to wirelessly transfer files between computers on a shared network. I suspect that the downside of UMS (having to unmount storage from the phone in order to connect it to a PC) may have caused enough problems to convince Sammy to give up on it altogether.
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I use Link2SD and every damn time I boot this phone up it goes through optimizing my 255 applications! What the heck? The more I use this phone the worse it seems not better!
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Sounds like a problem with Link2SD. This doesn't happen on my phone. My phone boots very quickly.
Curious, why are you moving apps anyway? Have you filled up the 16gig already or are you just so used to a phone with limited storage that you do it by habit? I ask because I've got about 80 apps on my phone including about 10 big apps, and have only used about 1.8 of the 12 gig internal storage available for apps.

I had limited space.. but Link2SD I can play with ROMS and do a wipe minus ext4 partition and than reinstall link2SD and relink all my apps.. no slow Titanium that locks up restore or other slow app backup restores.

molitar said:
I had limited space.. but Link2SD I can play with ROMS and do a wipe minus ext4 partition and than reinstall link2SD and relink all my apps.. no slow Titanium that locks up restore or other slow app backup restores.
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Ahh.....lots of wiping and rom flashing. Could it be that reflashing roms and not restoring apps normally is the cause of the constant optimizing on boot? Something not getting properly linked? Going from odexed to deodexed roms?

Try this...
This is for the international version, but it might work (not really sure, I didn't read but I remember seeing this on the xda news page for the s3)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
It basically makes your external sd available as usb mass storage.

Not working for the sprint s3 yet. I've been trying to get it to work from the first day I got the s3. I love this phone for most part... but Samsung not allowing ums on it with usb is the biggest screw up ever on this phone. It's like the Greek hero Achilles with his one major flaw...
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molitar said:
yeah I'm about to return this pos phone! Damn MTP bull**** I can't syncrhonize folders anymore to backup sd card! What bull****.. not only that so far wireless and mobile has been slower than my EVO 3D. I can't believe people can say this phone is better it has all sorts of issues that make it worse.
No USB Mass Storage
Data speeds seem horrible compared to EVO's
SG3 UMS I can't get to work either
I use Link2SD and every damn time I boot this phone up it goes through optimizing my 255 applications! What the heck? The more I use this phone the worse it seems not better!
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Man... It sounds like it's time you get the Sprint HTC One X variant. Oh that's right. No SD card or changable battery. I'll stay right where I am. The SGS3 is the best phone on Sprint. Full stop.

Another option
This was made for the U.S. versions of the S3... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768752
Try that.

Yes this works for ext SdCard! Root + BusyBox + SGS3 Easy UMS

Mount internal or copy full "image"
Hi you guys!
Been reading a lot on this topic and its odd but it seems noone has a solution to these issues.
I have a similar problem.
Used the internal storage for photos due the speed differences and made a factory reset.. Normaly no problems but i forgot the rescent photos and that dropbox only backs up while on WiFi.
And all this happnes during time at the hospital while my wife gives birth tomour wonderful daughter, AND I DELETED ALL THE PHOTOS!
So if anyone can serve me up with a solution to eigher mount the internal storage in some thing less complicated than rocket science or some way to rip the full memoryblocks to a image file to be able to "rescue" the photos that way by mounting that image.
So if any of you guys have any thing to recommend id love that. ; )
Ill keep digging the forum now...

You can also try this -
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mohammadag.samsungusbmassstorageenabler&hl=en

Thanks. But thats only for the external SD. The internal is were i had my pictures. : (
Any ony else got any great ideas.

Dropbox syncs pics from DCIM/Camera folder to PC
Laukan said:
Thanks. But thats only for the external SD. The internal is were i had my pictures. : (
Any ony else got any great ideas.
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I use ES File Mgr to move the jpg's to the DCIM/Camera folder and then use Dropbox to auto-synch to my PC. Anything in DCIM/Camera shows up in my Dropbox as soon as I get within range of a wifi hotspot. I think Google+ also syncs the pics.