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[Q] Failed to move application

I'm unrooted, using the stock OS with Go Launcher, and I can't seem to move 2 games (Heavy Gunner and Monopoly) to the SD Card (SD Card in this case I assume means the 11 GB or so memory on the phone, not the external SD card). I keep getting "Failed to move application:". I have 10 GB left on my "SD card" USB storage. Does anyone know what the problem might be? Thanks.

I dont really know but keep pressing move to sd, itll go through now out of nowhere sometime those apps that were moved will break after a reboot and youll have to uninstall and install again.
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well, I tried moving another new app I got, and it failed to move also. So I don't think it's the particular apps that are the problem. Seems like the memory is corrupted or something.
I guess I'll try to keep moving it til it goes through, but it doesn't seem likely. This really sucks if I can't use the 10 free gigs on the phone now.

Then leave it where it installs.. Apps install on USB storage first until you move them to external.
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Don't they install first on the < 2.0 GB of phone memory? Then when I go to manage Applications, I do "Move to SD Card" and it moves it to the 11 GBs or so of USB storage. No applications are moved to my external SD that I'm aware of (I'm using the stock Move to SD option, not a third party app to move to external).

The apps are moved to the external sd card, not the usb storage, make sure you have enough memory on it
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I'm almost positive doing "Move to SD card" in the Manage Applications menu moves the apps to the 11 GB or so of memory that came with the phone, NOT the external memory card. When I look at memory usage "On SD card", it says USB storage is 1 GB used and 10 GB free, and lists a bunch of the apps I was able to successfully move to "SD card". Also I don't see any signs of apps on my external card.

Well I just moved a game that was on my sd card back to my phone and the available space on sd went up, moved it back to sd and space went back down, did this by going to settings> Applications and not by a 3rd party app
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I think when they say "SD Card", they mean the 10 gigs or so that's in the phone. And if you have a micro SD card that you put in the phone, they call that the "external SD card". It's very confusing but that's my understanding.
So I have 10 gigs free on the SD card, so the amount of free space shouldn't be a problem.
Anyone else had this problem?

eMace said:
I think when they say "SD Card", they mean the 10 gigs or so that's in the phone. And if you have a micro SD card that you put in the phone, they call that the "external SD card". It's very confusing but that's my understanding.
So I have 10 gigs free on the SD card, so the amount of free space shouldn't be a problem.
Anyone else had this problem?
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Yes i know how it works, well i dont know but mine are on the external,
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well, I did some more searching and apparently this is a pretty common Android problem. And other Galaxy 2 owners are also saying the Move to SD Card option moves to external SD card for some, and phone storage for others, with no rhyme or reason.
Since my last post, I tried powering off and powering back on and moving to SD card again, and it finally worked for 2 apps, then started failing again.
This is pretty frustrating. Hopefully Ice Cream Sandwich fixes this bug.

Keep ext sd card clean if unwanted files

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I want my extra sd card to only have my media...no and secure or data or any other app crap placed on it
I try and keep everything on the internal 16 GB storage. This way my 64 GB sd card only has my games and movies.
What I have noticed is I can delete them off my sd card...remove it...and restore the app data with titanium back up and I am all good. But after a few days they sneak onto my SD card and take up about 1 GB of space. In effect the files are duplicated on my internal memory and my sd card.
This is inefficient...does anyone know how to prevent this ?
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If I understand you correctly and I believe I do, you want to maintain all of your External SD cards space for your media, and if its a 64gig card you want ALL 64gigs free for the media of your choice.
The simple fact that your phone formats that card so it can use it sould tell you that your phone placed data on your SD so not all 64gigs are free. Formatting in general takes some space away from the media for the format to reside. So on a 64gig card, you may end up with like, 62.3gigs or a bit less after format.
I use a 32gig but only 29.8gigs are useable due to format. just saying...hope I'm correct and that I helped you.

rdisanza said:
If I understand you correctly and I believe I do, you want to maintain all of your External SD cards space for your media, and if its a 64gig card you want ALL 64gigs free for the media of your choice.
The simple fact that your phone formats that card so it can use it sould tell you that your phone placed data on your SD so not all 64gigs are free. Formatting in general takes some space away from the media for the format to reside. So on a 64gig card, you may end up with like, 62.3gigs or a bit less after format.
I use a 32gig but only 29.8gigs are useable due to format. just saying...hope I'm correct and that I helped you.
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Not what I meat.
What bothers me is my phone sees two sd cards ...one is the 16 GB internal memory and the other is the ext sd card.
When downloading an app that installs to sd by default the phone will randomly throw it on my ext sd card if It is plugged in...but if I take the card out it will put it on the 16 GB memory
What bothers me most is all the extra folders and the fact that somethings are in one place and not the other or both.
There needs t be a way for the phone to leave my sd card alone
It gets confusing because the so called 16 GB internal memory on the phone is treated like a sd card by the system and is not part of the system rom....the system rom where most apps is installed is seperate
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Trev186 said:
I try and keep everything on the internal 16 GB storage. This way my 64 GB sd card only has my games and movies.
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WTF, I thought these phones were only 32GB capable..........?

AVAH0LIC said:
WTF, I thought these phones were only 32GB capable..........?
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SanDisk and KingMax have new 64GB MicroSD cards out that the Galaxy and others work on. The problem for me is the price......like ~$150.
To the OP .....Maybe it is the card as I have a couple of Samsung 32gb class 10 and don't have that problem. Whatever I put on my ext. SD card stays there.

7harper said:
SanDisk and KingMax have new 64GB MicroSD cards out that the Galaxy and others work on. The problem for me is the price......like ~$150.
To the OP .....Maybe it is the card as I have a couple of Samsung 32gb class 10 and don't have that problem. Whatever I put on my ext. SD card stays there.
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I have no problem with what I put staying on my card..it is the app folders and android secure data that my phone seems to duplicate onto my sd card as well as the included internal card.
Check you app directory you will see an android secure folder on your internal and ext sd card...chances are you have duplicate data in each...
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AVAH0LIC said:
WTF, I thought these phones were only 32GB capable..........?
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There is nothing limiting phones to 32 GBs ...that is just sales material.
I put this sd card in an og droid and n1 and it worked.
Fat 32 can read large drives on a pc so nothing stops iron android either. I have a 2 TB hardrive formatted as fat 32 at home.
Fyi SDXC will allow for up to 2 TBs on your cell phone within 5 years. Prototypes of the micro sdxc @ 2 tb have already been developed.
Hence why the whole nexus internal memory only is bs
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Trev186 said:
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I want my extra sd card to only have my media...no and secure or data or any other app crap placed on it
I try and keep everything on the internal 16 GB storage. This way my 64 GB sd card only has my games and movies.
What I have noticed is I can delete them off my sd card...remove it...and restore the app data with titanium back up and I am all good. But after a few days they sneak onto my SD card and take up about 1 GB of space. In effect the files are duplicated on my internal memory and my sd card.
This is inefficient...does anyone know how to prevent this ?
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Did you ever figure out a way to keep data on the phone only? I have a BIG problem with Evernote (free). I love the program as it holds small bits of data that I cannot remember (e.g. license plate numbers, birthdays, drivers license numbers, etc) but are too personal to not worry about. I only use 1/2 MB (yes, that is right, 1/2 MB) so paying for the premium version is much too expensive for what I store.
What I recently found however, has me ready to stop using it. The program stores all the 'cards' on the SD card of my Samsung S3 phone. And if you pull out the card, pop it into a computer and go to the Evernote folder, they store the data IN PLAIN ENGLISH! So even if I lock my phone anyone who can get the card out can read all this information. I even told the program not to store the data for offline access and cleared the cache/history but it still remains on the SD card if the program is running. I need a way to prevent the program from storing the data on the SD card. I thought I had it fixed - completely remove the program, delete all stored data and folders, pull out the SD Card, reinstall and download my 1/2 MB of data from the cloud (forcing it to phone storage), then rebooting with the SD back in. IT PUT THE DATA BACK ON THE SD CARD! This is a BIG security risk and now I am looking for a way to prevent it.
So, back to your original thread, any luck?
Frank

Trev186 said:
Not what I meat.
What bothers me is my phone sees two sd cards ...one is the 16 GB internal memory and the other is the ext sd card.
When downloading an app that installs to sd by default the phone will randomly throw it on my ext sd card if It is plugged in...but if I take the card out it will put it on the 16 GB memory
What bothers me most is all the extra folders and the fact that somethings are in one place and not the other or both.
There needs t be a way for the phone to leave my sd card alone
It gets confusing because the so called 16 GB internal memory on the phone is treated like a sd card by the system and is not part of the system rom....the system rom where most apps is installed is seperate
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I am having this issue too, I think it had something to do with going from Blazer ROM (GB) to Paranoid Android (JB), and the difference in the way they handle partitioning the ext SD card
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[Q] Is there a way to get rid of "internal" SD on Galaxy E4GT?

Ok i'm a bit of a noob so bare with me here... i have a 32GB SD card i'm using on my Galaxy E4GT but it only shows up as a folder in my "internal" SD so i cant really use it other then dead storage to make space.. i want the internal SD to be gone and just be phone memory so then my External SD card can be my other main memory .. so in a nutshell i guess i'm asking to be able to get rid of the "internal" SD and give its space to the actual phone and for the only other memory to be my External SD.. can this be done? and how?

I really don't understand what you're trying to ask, but I think you're confused about how external storage is being stored.
For starters, the internal SD can not be deleted. It's not even an option, it's like, taking the transmission out of a car. The car won't work. Your phone needs it's internal storage.
Your external storage is *mounted* (Google it) as /sdcard/external_sd/, meaning Android conveniently creates a "shorcut" folder to your external SD in your internal SD. Very similar to how when you plug in your phone to your WIndows computer, you see a new "Drive" in "My Computer".
Now that I re-read your message, I believe you're thinking your /external_sd/ folder is limited to the size of the internal SD (which is 16 GB). Like I explained, it's simply a shortcut for you. You're *not* limited to the size of the internal SD. In there is your 32GB external SD.
Hope I helped.

I think his problem is kind of what I was asking in my music thread. On the OG epic everything downloaded went straight to external sd storage. While I know it didn't have dual storage like this phone. This phone seems to not use the link to the external storage correct.
For example everytime I DL music from a playlist no matter what app it goes to the internal memory, not to the external memory. It seems that there needs to be a way to have the external memory link not sit inside a place in the internal memory so that downloads go there. Right now most of the time they sit in .../sdcard rather than find there way to .../sdcard/external_sd (or whatever it is).
I saw a link somewhere for a different device to swap internal and external but didn't get a chance to read it yet. that may solve the problem but i'm not sure. I wish it worked as easy as the OG epic so I could put my music playlists onto external and have them play/show up correctly.
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StormGlove I
Hit the nail on the head.. Thats exactly what I'm talking about... The phone turns your External SD Card into dead storage space.. You can't run anything from inside it (Like Music or Games) and you can't make it your main SD Memory. What I want to know is how can I merge the "Internal SD" with the "Phone's Memory" to make them one.. So that the only two forms of memory on the phone are "Phone Memory" and "External SD Card".
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you can't... it wouldn't make sense to want to be able to do that..
you could, through some hackery, switch the mount points and make external show as /sdcard and internal as /sdcard/external_sd for whatever reason.. but without repartitioning your phone... you aren't going to be able to do much more..
im still kind of lost on what is wrong with the internal sd?
btw music plays just fine from the external, and you can install games to and from the external.. i think you may have a misunderstanding of how it works..

EnVy MoNtOyA said:
StormGlove I
Hit the nail on the head.. Thats exactly what I'm talking about... The phone turns your External SD Card into dead storage space.. You can't run anything from inside it (Like Music or Games) and you can't make it your main SD Memory. What I want to know is how can I merge the "Internal SD" with the "Phone's Memory" to make them one.. So that the only two forms of memory on the phone are "Phone Memory" and "External SD Card".
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What? I am able to play all my music stored on the /external_sd/music folder without issues. I am using poweramp though
I guess if you could modify the fstab file you might be able to have it in a way so it ignores the 'internal SD' and links it directly to the real SD card. Now if the phone will be able to work properly afterward is another issue but I don't see why not.

I understand music plays fine one moved there. I haven't tried poweramp yet. But for instance with double twist or Amazon mp3 when you sync playlists or any song it saves to internal memory without any option to sync to external. If you move the music to external the playlist won't work anymore. Yes the song will play but no playlist without remaking it.
I have no problems with using internal but it fills up pretty quick. As far as games I don't have any comment as I just leave those on internal memory. Thanks for the responses though. And maybe I'll try and use power amp to sync playlists.
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stormglove said:
I understand music plays fine one moved there. I haven't tried poweramp yet. But for instance with double twist or Amazon mp3 when you sync playlists or any song it saves to internal memory without any option to sync to external. If you move the music to external the playlist won't work anymore. Yes the song will play but no playlist without remaking it.
I have no problems with using internal but it fills up pretty quick. As far as games I don't have any comment as I just leave those on internal memory. Thanks for the responses though. And maybe I'll try and use power amp to sync playlists.
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Yeah, moving it after youve sync'd it most definately won't work, if it's saved to that location then you move it from that location, it's going to keep looking for it in the original location.
I've never used Amazon Mp3 or DoubleTwist, so I can't say maybe you guys are missing an option. Make sure you throroughly read and check all available settings in both programs.
All I know is that the externsl SD does not become dead storage, as I use mine everyday and play music, videos, view pictures, move/zip CWM backups, everything.
Maybe you can try uninstalling Amazon Mp3 /Doubletwist, reinstall, then before running it even once move it to your external SD. Then run it/set it up once it's in your external SD. Maybe that'll force it to save to your external SD.

I know its not dead space, haha. I wasn't completing about that, and I searched all over, its those apps. Google music is the same. There were numerous complaints on all there websites about not having a choice where to DL to, making the extremal in dual storage phones like ours, become useless when trying to get playlist off our computers onto them.
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Ok as for music i use Google music and my offline music wont show when moved to External SD.. games is the same.. they just dont look for the External SD directory... im assuming that there is just one big hunk of memory in the phone and its partitioned into two parts (Phone Memory and Internal SD). If i can get rid of the partition that separates the two and just make it so that its all just phone memory without Internal SD.. the phone would be faster wouldn't it? and when i use my SD card it will just show up as SD card leaving only two sources to save or move things around to? again i could be way off and totaly wrong.. im only a noob at this point but im open to wisdom and learning as much as i can since im going to be a android user FOREVER

I am using "Media Monkey", and have no problems copying to the external SD. As a matter of fact, all of my music is sitting on the external. Its also (I think) the best music app available...
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I guess my question is the 500mb of RAM just partitioned off the mass storage sd internal like the 2gb of memory for apps? Or is it 500mb chip in there seperate some where? Which im guessing it ia since it would have to run at a faster clock than the internal sd can
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bluefire808 said:
I guess my question is the 500mb of RAM just partitioned off the mass storage sd internal like the 2gb of memory for apps? Or is it 500mb chip in there seperate some where? Which im guessing it ia since it would have to run at a faster clock than the internal sd can
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Its my understanding that the memory used by the applications and RAM is shared on the same chipset that it's separate from the storage (internal SD) chipset. Checking the teardowns on http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Epic-4G-Touch-Teardown/6481/2 shows that 16GB chip being separate but the one that holds the RAM and internal app storage is not described there.

Actually what the op is asking can work. It would need kernel changes tho and mappings of partitions changed. So that the primary partition (where the OS is installed) becomes say 1gb. Then the rest goes to internal storage (where all apps go.) Then nothings left for a "internal SD." Then the SD card can be used as the only storage.
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Shoulon said:
Actually what the op is asking can work. It would need kernel changes tho and mappings of partitions changed. So that the primary partition (where the OS is installed) becomes say 1gb. Then the rest goes to internal storage (where all apps go.) Then nothings left for a "internal SD." Then the SD card can be used as the only storage.
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OMG! YES! Finally someone who truly understands what im saying... you said it much better then i did for sure.. but yes thats exactly it.. i heard of someone doing work on this but i cant find the thread anymore.. it was called "*something* partition Mod" but it was for some other phone... if this could be done it would truly make my day and my phone would be perfect! im willing to help make it happen how ever i can ... unfortunately i dont know anything about coding or kernels but if there is another way i can help jus let me know.

I agree this phone does handle memory in a retarded way. Like for example when you move apps to sd it shows your available internal space but when you switch the app it goes to the actual sd card. So you'll notice that as you're switching them the amount available in internal is not decreasing but when you check your sd space you'll notice its memory decreased. However all my music is on the sd and I have no issue with it playing or creating playlists. Maybe you moved the files to sd and you had created the playlist while it was on internal so now it can't find it.. For the most part you can go into most apps setting and change between which memory you want to store internal or sd.
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Yes I can create playlist and play them on the external. The problem is I have Some big playlists on my comp I want to put onto external without having to recreate them. So far I've been unsuccessful. I do need to try media play still though.
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Apps to SD disk space questions - Bad Clusters how to repair?

This is my first week with the HOX and Android. Been an iPhone user since day one. Didn't have this internal external storage to worry with. So I wanted to move the apps to my SD since I have 12 gig plus free. I still have 1.6 gig free internally but want to make sure I keep it optimal.
However I can't seem to move some files like Dolphin. The system keeps saying I am out of space on my SD card. I tried two app2 SDrograms. They say I should be able to move Dolphin browser plus another 20 apps but I get this no space available even though I have 12 plus gigs.
Can anyone make me aware of what is going on? I also looked at my SD card with a file explorer and can't find the apps that we're moved over to the SD. Are these kept hidden from view and is there a limit on this space?
Thanks.

Try a reboot and then plug it in on a windoes ssystem then repair, it should scan for errors etc etc.
Might help, just a thought.
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walaway said:
Try a reboot and then plug it in on a windoes ssystem then repair, it should scan for errors etc etc.
Might help, just a thought.
on xda for android and mistyping like a boss
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Thanks I ran disk check on my mac and got the following:
4754 files, 12401568 KiB free (387549 clusters), 1048576 KiB bad (32768 clusters)
it was not able to repair the bad clusters. Can I reformat to see if it can be repaired?
Thanks

Yes you can reformat you will lose all data though so back up sd card first.
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[Q] Internal Storage problem.

Ive had the phone for about a month and my internal storage seems to have disappeared. So it has a 16gb Hard drive in the phone and I have a 16gb SD in the phone as well. When I go into settings, storage and look at the storage its says Ive used 14gb of 16gb, which seems weird because I dont have much installed on the phone. I have continually uninstalled apps to keep my room available but it seems I have less and less apps on it and less and less storage. I then plug the phone in to my PC and also use clean master to see what my storage is and they both say I have 1.7gb remaining out of 10gb.
So my question is where has the 6gb's gone?
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Phone says ive used 14gb/16gb but my pc and clean master app say Ive used around 8gb/10gb

Try using app called diskusage, it should help you a bit.
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