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I want my extra sd card to only have my media...no and secure or data or any other app crap placed on it
I try and keep everything on the internal 16 GB storage. This way my 64 GB sd card only has my games and movies.
What I have noticed is I can delete them off my sd card...remove it...and restore the app data with titanium back up and I am all good. But after a few days they sneak onto my SD card and take up about 1 GB of space. In effect the files are duplicated on my internal memory and my sd card.
This is inefficient...does anyone know how to prevent this ?
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If I understand you correctly and I believe I do, you want to maintain all of your External SD cards space for your media, and if its a 64gig card you want ALL 64gigs free for the media of your choice.
The simple fact that your phone formats that card so it can use it sould tell you that your phone placed data on your SD so not all 64gigs are free. Formatting in general takes some space away from the media for the format to reside. So on a 64gig card, you may end up with like, 62.3gigs or a bit less after format.
I use a 32gig but only 29.8gigs are useable due to format. just saying...hope I'm correct and that I helped you.
rdisanza said:
If I understand you correctly and I believe I do, you want to maintain all of your External SD cards space for your media, and if its a 64gig card you want ALL 64gigs free for the media of your choice.
The simple fact that your phone formats that card so it can use it sould tell you that your phone placed data on your SD so not all 64gigs are free. Formatting in general takes some space away from the media for the format to reside. So on a 64gig card, you may end up with like, 62.3gigs or a bit less after format.
I use a 32gig but only 29.8gigs are useable due to format. just saying...hope I'm correct and that I helped you.
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Not what I meat.
What bothers me is my phone sees two sd cards ...one is the 16 GB internal memory and the other is the ext sd card.
When downloading an app that installs to sd by default the phone will randomly throw it on my ext sd card if It is plugged in...but if I take the card out it will put it on the 16 GB memory
What bothers me most is all the extra folders and the fact that somethings are in one place and not the other or both.
There needs t be a way for the phone to leave my sd card alone
It gets confusing because the so called 16 GB internal memory on the phone is treated like a sd card by the system and is not part of the system rom....the system rom where most apps is installed is seperate
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Trev186 said:
I try and keep everything on the internal 16 GB storage. This way my 64 GB sd card only has my games and movies.
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WTF, I thought these phones were only 32GB capable..........?
AVAH0LIC said:
WTF, I thought these phones were only 32GB capable..........?
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SanDisk and KingMax have new 64GB MicroSD cards out that the Galaxy and others work on. The problem for me is the price......like ~$150.
To the OP .....Maybe it is the card as I have a couple of Samsung 32gb class 10 and don't have that problem. Whatever I put on my ext. SD card stays there.
7harper said:
SanDisk and KingMax have new 64GB MicroSD cards out that the Galaxy and others work on. The problem for me is the price......like ~$150.
To the OP .....Maybe it is the card as I have a couple of Samsung 32gb class 10 and don't have that problem. Whatever I put on my ext. SD card stays there.
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I have no problem with what I put staying on my card..it is the app folders and android secure data that my phone seems to duplicate onto my sd card as well as the included internal card.
Check you app directory you will see an android secure folder on your internal and ext sd card...chances are you have duplicate data in each...
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AVAH0LIC said:
WTF, I thought these phones were only 32GB capable..........?
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There is nothing limiting phones to 32 GBs ...that is just sales material.
I put this sd card in an og droid and n1 and it worked.
Fat 32 can read large drives on a pc so nothing stops iron android either. I have a 2 TB hardrive formatted as fat 32 at home.
Fyi SDXC will allow for up to 2 TBs on your cell phone within 5 years. Prototypes of the micro sdxc @ 2 tb have already been developed.
Hence why the whole nexus internal memory only is bs
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Trev186 said:
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I want my extra sd card to only have my media...no and secure or data or any other app crap placed on it
I try and keep everything on the internal 16 GB storage. This way my 64 GB sd card only has my games and movies.
What I have noticed is I can delete them off my sd card...remove it...and restore the app data with titanium back up and I am all good. But after a few days they sneak onto my SD card and take up about 1 GB of space. In effect the files are duplicated on my internal memory and my sd card.
This is inefficient...does anyone know how to prevent this ?
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Did you ever figure out a way to keep data on the phone only? I have a BIG problem with Evernote (free). I love the program as it holds small bits of data that I cannot remember (e.g. license plate numbers, birthdays, drivers license numbers, etc) but are too personal to not worry about. I only use 1/2 MB (yes, that is right, 1/2 MB) so paying for the premium version is much too expensive for what I store.
What I recently found however, has me ready to stop using it. The program stores all the 'cards' on the SD card of my Samsung S3 phone. And if you pull out the card, pop it into a computer and go to the Evernote folder, they store the data IN PLAIN ENGLISH! So even if I lock my phone anyone who can get the card out can read all this information. I even told the program not to store the data for offline access and cleared the cache/history but it still remains on the SD card if the program is running. I need a way to prevent the program from storing the data on the SD card. I thought I had it fixed - completely remove the program, delete all stored data and folders, pull out the SD Card, reinstall and download my 1/2 MB of data from the cloud (forcing it to phone storage), then rebooting with the SD back in. IT PUT THE DATA BACK ON THE SD CARD! This is a BIG security risk and now I am looking for a way to prevent it.
So, back to your original thread, any luck?
Frank
Trev186 said:
Not what I meat.
What bothers me is my phone sees two sd cards ...one is the 16 GB internal memory and the other is the ext sd card.
When downloading an app that installs to sd by default the phone will randomly throw it on my ext sd card if It is plugged in...but if I take the card out it will put it on the 16 GB memory
What bothers me most is all the extra folders and the fact that somethings are in one place and not the other or both.
There needs t be a way for the phone to leave my sd card alone
It gets confusing because the so called 16 GB internal memory on the phone is treated like a sd card by the system and is not part of the system rom....the system rom where most apps is installed is seperate
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I am having this issue too, I think it had something to do with going from Blazer ROM (GB) to Paranoid Android (JB), and the difference in the way they handle partitioning the ext SD card
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Our phone is stupid. The file system has /sdcard as the main directory, and so everything on the phone thinks it's working off of an external sd card. Therefore my 32 GB external card goes mostly unused. Very sad. There's this though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088474
People are able to swap the internal and external sd cards. Can this work on our phone? Thanks.
JoeBruin32 said:
Our phone is stupid. The file system has /sdcard as the main directory, and so everything on the phone thinks it's working off of an external sd card. Therefore my 32 GB external card goes mostly unused. Very sad. There's this though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088474
People are able to swap the internal and external sd cards. Can this work on our phone? Thanks.
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this would be awesome if it would work.
I found overall with 16GB I am happy with it as is. I can store my music on my true external SD card and I doubt I will run out of room /w 16GB for apps etc... However, I do see the point and it is one design flaw I have noticed.
If that method works hell yes. I guess I may try it.
Dulanic said:
I found overall with 16GB I am happy with it as is. I can store my music on my true external SD card and I doubt I will run out of room /w 16GB for apps etc... However, I do see the point and it is one design flaw I have noticed.
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I agree, I just stuff all my music and movies on my micro sd and not worry about using that internal for it.
going to go buy this phone today. ran into the same problem on the photon but i was able to edit some lines in the void file and switched the "cards" around so my actual 32gb sd card was read as the sd card and not external sd card. will let you know what i find
jbuggydroid said:
going to go buy this phone today. ran into the same problem on the photon but i was able to edit some lines in the void file and switched the "cards" around so my actual 32gb sd card was read as the sd card and not external sd card. will let you know what i find
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It does this for a reason ....ROM is much faster than a Sd if you switch it may screw up the video cam being able to record 720 & 1080....
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well i was able to swap them but then i was unable to move any of my apps to the sd card so i reverted back to factory. sorry guys
JoeBruin32 said:
Our phone is stupid. The file system has /sdcard as the main directory, and so everything on the phone thinks it's working off of an external sd card. Therefore my 32 GB external card goes mostly unused. Very sad. There's this though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088474
People are able to swap the internal and external sd cards. Can this work on our phone? Thanks.
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Wow. After reading that entire thread, I gotta say that the OP over there, trip007n, must have the patience of a saint.
He's continuously, repeatedly, answered the same questions OVER and OVER again...(like "How do I use Root Explorer?" (seriously?), or "how should the card be formatted?", or "Why won't it work with MAH phone?"). Seriously, those people need read the dang OP first, then read the thread, then learn how to properly reformat an SD card before wasting anymore of that guy's valuable time. Sheesh.
(Anyone that's tried this, did you make sure that the SD was COMPLETELY formatted to FAT32, down to the first zerobit of data? I've found in the past, if you miss that crucial part, NO device in the world is gonna recognize it: best done with Linux, but there are ways to do it properly thru windows as well.)
I'm unrooted, using the stock OS with Go Launcher, and I can't seem to move 2 games (Heavy Gunner and Monopoly) to the SD Card (SD Card in this case I assume means the 11 GB or so memory on the phone, not the external SD card). I keep getting "Failed to move application:". I have 10 GB left on my "SD card" USB storage. Does anyone know what the problem might be? Thanks.
I dont really know but keep pressing move to sd, itll go through now out of nowhere sometime those apps that were moved will break after a reboot and youll have to uninstall and install again.
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well, I tried moving another new app I got, and it failed to move also. So I don't think it's the particular apps that are the problem. Seems like the memory is corrupted or something.
I guess I'll try to keep moving it til it goes through, but it doesn't seem likely. This really sucks if I can't use the 10 free gigs on the phone now.
Then leave it where it installs.. Apps install on USB storage first until you move them to external.
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Don't they install first on the < 2.0 GB of phone memory? Then when I go to manage Applications, I do "Move to SD Card" and it moves it to the 11 GBs or so of USB storage. No applications are moved to my external SD that I'm aware of (I'm using the stock Move to SD option, not a third party app to move to external).
The apps are moved to the external sd card, not the usb storage, make sure you have enough memory on it
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I'm almost positive doing "Move to SD card" in the Manage Applications menu moves the apps to the 11 GB or so of memory that came with the phone, NOT the external memory card. When I look at memory usage "On SD card", it says USB storage is 1 GB used and 10 GB free, and lists a bunch of the apps I was able to successfully move to "SD card". Also I don't see any signs of apps on my external card.
Well I just moved a game that was on my sd card back to my phone and the available space on sd went up, moved it back to sd and space went back down, did this by going to settings> Applications and not by a 3rd party app
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I think when they say "SD Card", they mean the 10 gigs or so that's in the phone. And if you have a micro SD card that you put in the phone, they call that the "external SD card". It's very confusing but that's my understanding.
So I have 10 gigs free on the SD card, so the amount of free space shouldn't be a problem.
Anyone else had this problem?
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I think when they say "SD Card", they mean the 10 gigs or so that's in the phone. And if you have a micro SD card that you put in the phone, they call that the "external SD card". It's very confusing but that's my understanding.
So I have 10 gigs free on the SD card, so the amount of free space shouldn't be a problem.
Anyone else had this problem?
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Yes i know how it works, well i dont know but mine are on the external,
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well, I did some more searching and apparently this is a pretty common Android problem. And other Galaxy 2 owners are also saying the Move to SD Card option moves to external SD card for some, and phone storage for others, with no rhyme or reason.
Since my last post, I tried powering off and powering back on and moving to SD card again, and it finally worked for 2 apps, then started failing again.
This is pretty frustrating. Hopefully Ice Cream Sandwich fixes this bug.
I don't know when this happened but my tablet is missing more then 3gb of avail memory (only shows 5.45gb total space which can't be right) Only thing i can remember that gave me the most trouble was trying to get ubuntu to work on the side with android using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987740 only to find it was getting all sort of errors with the repositories so i ended up deleting it but still i know that seeing a few hundred meg to a gig is normal but a lil over 3gigs missing entirely something gotta be wrong x.x
Anyhelp out there since can't connect this to my mintbox netbook so i could check the partitions an make sure nothing is abnormal
Its totally normal, its what the Android team introduced with Honeycomb, universal storage, all 8GB a100s show 5 or so due to Android system etc.
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well i feel like a dork now :x I have a captivate that has ICS on it an it shows 1.83gb used for internal an the remaining 13gb on the internal (16gb cappy) But sheesh lot of memory being used x.x
Ya just how it is. Thats why I have a 32gb sdcard in there for my videos and music. I leave the 5.45gb for apps only. And if I have games that require mass amount of data to be downloaded then I use GL to SD app so it stores those game data to sdcard. Root is required to use GL to SD though. With this setup I havent had the need to delete apps or even bloatware. I'm sure I have over 100 apps in mine.
rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487142
GL to SD
https://market.android.com/details?...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.
Theres also a mod to make your SDcard as your internal. So basically the 5.45gb will act like an external drive while your SDcard will be your internal memory. But if you go this route might be good to have class4 card or higher.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422158
I've been using the sd swapped since i got my tablet downgraded back to HC with ICS I was ending up using to much of internal storage with game data an other content.
pintek said:
I've been using the sd swapped since i got my tablet downgraded back to HC with ICS I was ending up using to much of internal storage with game data an other content.
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I hear ya man thats why I'm still on HC till we get perm root. I have tried the SD swap but my 32 gb is almost full already so after I was all done I was left with about 2gb space. About the same if I just went with GL to SD so wasnt really worth going through all the trouble doing the sd swap. Plus I remove my SD card constantly so for my rom to be ran from it wouldn't be a good idea for me.
My 32 GB SD card is on its way, I never thought too much about music etc on my tablet seeing as my phone has 16 GB but now that I practically live with my tab, Daddy needs more space baby
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I have a SanDisk 32GB microSD card. I originally had one at launch but after a few months, I had a terrible case of Media Server constantly running in the background sucking up all of my battery. I got the card replaced by SanDisk as per a lot of discussions on the forum.
Its bee fine with this new card for over 5 months. Now, out of nowhere, I'm noticing that my Galaxy is EATING my data. Slowly over time more pictures and music files on my SD card are being wiped out. The files stay on the card, but read as 0 bytes and I can't open them.
Last week I lost an entire folder of pictures. No big deal, thats backed up.
This week I noticed half my music library is now a bunch of 0 byte files. What on earth?
I'm going to go home and copy my backup over SD card after reformatting and will report back. But what gives? What is this nonsense and why would it be doing this? I haven't dropped my phone or installed any crazy stuff on it as of late either.
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I'm on stock ROM with AutoChainFire root. 4.1.2
OmegaNemesis28 said:
I have a SanDisk 32GB microSD card. I originally had one at launch but after a few months, I had a terrible case of Media Server constantly running in the background sucking up all of my battery. I got the card replaced by SanDisk as per a lot of discussions on the forum.
Its bee fine with this new card for over 5 months. Now, out of nowhere, I'm noticing that my Galaxy is EATING my data. Slowly over time more pictures and music files on my SD card are being wiped out. The files stay on the card, but read as 0 bytes and I can't open them.
Last week I lost an entire folder of pictures. No big deal, thats backed up.
This week I noticed half my music library is now a bunch of 0 byte files. What on earth?
I'm going to go home and copy my backup over SD card after reformatting and will report back. But what gives? What is this nonsense and why would it be doing this? I haven't dropped my phone or installed any crazy stuff on it as of late either.
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What rom you are running? What format you have in your sd card, ie exFAT, FAT32 or NTFS? Highly recommend to format you sd card to FAT32.
xxxSuperserieSxxx said:
What rom you are running? What format you have in your sd card, ie exFAT, FAT32 or NTFS? Highly recommend to format you sd card to FAT32.
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4.1.2 - stock with autochainfire root
FAT32
The card may be damaged or corrupted..
Not uncommon for SanDisk...
Try a clean format to FAT32 and test again...
If the same conditions exist...a replacement may be in order...g
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gregsarg said:
The card may be damaged or corrupted..
Not uncommon for SanDisk...
Try a clean format to FAT32 and test again...
If the same conditions exist...a replacement may be in order...g
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How should I properly clean format?
Because I tried to format straight from the phone. But after 3 tries, it wasn't actually formatting the damn card even though it said it was. I removed the card and connected it to a hub on a PC to do it through Windows.
I know that it technically shouldn't matter. A format is a format. But is there any reason why I ~should~ do it through the phone at all? Or why it would even act funky like that?
I think I need to do a clean install on my phone too. Just to be sure.
I'm a tad confused as to why we would want the largest SDXC cards in our Note 8 (any Smartphone actually).
When so many apps tend to go the Internal memory. I know I've only used a couple GBs of my 128gb card ( while currently using 100s of apps:laugh And my son gave me a 256gb card for my B-day. What would be the advantage of using the larger card? And yes both are SDXC cards.
Sincerely, Senior lover of tech...and apps;
More pictures, music, and/or files is all I can think of. I store all of that on my SD card.
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I'm a tad confused as to why we would want the largest SDXC cards in our Note 8 (any Smartphone actually).
When so many apps tend to go the Internal memory. I know I've only used a couple GBs of my 128gb card ( while currently using 100s of apps:laugh And my son gave me a 256gb card for my B-day. What would be the advantage of using the larger card? And yes both are SDXC cards.
Sincerely, Senior lover of tech...and apps;
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You do know that there's actually a way for the apps to run from the SD card right? Go to settings, apps and then go through all the apps you want one by one (tap on calculator for instance and then tap storage and you'll see "Storage used" tap it and choose SD card.) You do have to go through the apps one by one though in order to see which can be moved because some (most) system apps can't be moved to the SD card and also the apps you do move to the SD card do require a little extra time to start after a reboot since the phone needs to first mount the SD card and then run the apps.. I would suggest you do what I do and that's leave the apps you use constantly on the phones memory and the ones you use sparingly put them on the SD card.. Also, an SD card that can transfer quickly is best for this not the cheap SD cards!
Another thing to mention... If you turned on Developer Options, if you scroll all the way to the bottom, you can activate "Force allow apps to external" which will then allow virtually ever app to be transferred over to the external SD card...