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[q] which is the fastest and best hd rom for desire?

i have tried some but i dont which one is the best?

it depends on your usage, they're somehow similar..there's data2ext and app2sd+ rom. no problem with 720p now, its already fixed. but have use various hd rom already and i like the desire hd of robocik and reflextsense by neo.

reflextsense by neo absolutely!

It actually depends on his memory card class what implementation is more suitable for him, with slight tendency of a2sd being a little faster.
I'd opt for Reflex by Neo, that guy makes great ROMs and he is a developer, not just a ROM cooker. It is probably the fastest DHD port, and you could easily install data2sd if you need the extra space, just make sure you have at least class 6 SD card.
Also, people reported great battery life with baadnwz's ROM, might want give that one a look too.
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Is the desire a good smartphone? Pros n cons wanted

I have a friend looking at phones...is this a decent phone? Are there any problems with it as far as hardware goes? Reliable, etc... im not new to xda just have an incredible
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People says that the desire's ambient light sensor has a problem which I have yet to encounter. Also, the desire has very small internal memory which could be a problem in the future date.
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cons: battery life, small internal app space
pros: pretty much everything else

OpusX11 said:
cons: battery life, small internal app space
pros: pretty much everything else
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Actually, I think the battery life is rather normal just like other smartphones and shouldn't be quoted as a con.
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OpusX11 said:
cons: battery life, small internal app space
pros: pretty much everything else
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To some extend (almost entirely) I agree with OpusX11. However:
1. Unless the very latest models are different, all (each and every single) smartphone are provided with "short" batteries. Personally, I can go one full day without recharging (push enabled, several phone calls, some internet, some wifi, some GPS).
2. Small is so relative... Again, only very few smartphones are provided with more that half a Gb memory for programs. Do we want more? Yes!, but as of today, this is among the biggest ROM available in the market. You can overcome this limitation with several very nice cooked ROMs available here at XDA (I'm very happy with the RCMixHD ROM I'm using)

rafaelegomezb said:
To some extend (almost entirely) I agree with OpusX11. However:
1. Unless the very latest models are different, all (each and every single) smartphone are provided with "short" batteries. Personally, I can go one full day without recharging (push enabled, several phone calls, some internet, some wifi, some GPS).
2. Small is so relative... Again, only very few smartphones are provided with more that half a Gb memory for programs. Do we want more? Yes!, but as of today, this is among the biggest ROM available in the market. You can overcome this limitation with several very nice cooked ROMs available here at XDA (I'm very happy with the RCMixHD ROM I'm using)
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Doesn't that technically negates off the cons? Leaving the desire flawless? Lol.
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Internal space is limited, can be overcome with apps2sd as mentioned above.
Power button is annoying, the slightest touch will turn your phone on, annoying when your trying to save the last 10 minutes battery for an important phone call.
I've dropped mine a dozen times on concrete from hand height with no protector and its still working fine.
There is massive developer support here if your into that sort of thing, you will arguably get more/higher quality hacks, mods and rom's than on less popular devices.
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Coming from an old Nokia 5140i the Desire is extremely good.
I am running stock HTC 2.2 and haven't had any problems with neither battery nor storage (admittedly I don't install very many apps).
I go from 100% battery to between 50 and 10% during a days usage. And that often includes Wi-Fi on almost all day, about 30-40 SMS, some web browsing and between 30 to 60 minutes of games on the bus.
I have dropped my phone without protection once on a gravel road from hip height and the only damage were some small scratches in the plastic on the top.
As written above the power button is a bit sensitive, but not something that's overly annoying.
I have a SLCD screen and it is very nice, both regarding colours, brightness and touch sensitivity.
It's very nice to have actual buttons for the home/menu/back/search buttons, and not touch ones, as it's less risk of accidentally pushing them.
All in all it is a very solid phone (for me at least) and one I would very much recommend.

I agree- a top phone all in all;
cons- battery (lasts about 2 days max for me), low internal memory, (no htcsense.com could be a downside too?)
pros- nice design, quick phone, with android!

Lothaen said:
I agree- a top phone all in all;
cons- battery (lasts about 2 days max for me), low internal memory, (no htcsense.com could be a downside too?)
pros- nice design, quick phone, with android!
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Htcsense.com will come to desire when(or if) it upgrades to sense 2.0
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Old phone already, I doubt that even gingerbread will be availabe as an OTA update, not even mentioning sense 2.0 because of the low internal memory.
So,
Cons: old device, probably no more support from htc, probably no ginger and most likely no sense 2.0 and custom ROMs with it will never be smooth
Pros: overall a decent phone, satisfied with it but very pissed on the HTC support
The battery is not an issue, you can easily get 2 days out of it if used with knowledge and tweaked with some custom ROMs.

lvnatic said:
Old phone already, I doubt that even gingerbread will be availabe as an OTA update, not even mentioning sense 2.0 because of the low internal memory.
So,
Cons: old device, probably no more support from htc, probably no ginger and most likely no sense 2.0 and custom ROMs with it will never be smooth
Pros: overall a decent phone, satisfied with it but very pissed on the HTC support
The battery is not an issue, you can easily get 2 days out of it if used with knowledge and tweaked with some custom ROMs.
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There might be sense 2.0. However due to the small internal memory, HTC might limit it (less features installed on phone etc.) And gingerbread should come out before they stop support.
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I listed battery life as a con because friends with samsung android phones can get more life from their battery. I do agree that all smartphones suffer from short battery life, but i think the HTC sense-based phones are a bit worse than others in this space.
I'm not sure HTCSense.com is a big deal. Apps like WaveSecure or Lookout can do do online backup of data anyway, right? Are there other features of HTCSense.com that are note-worthy?

lvnatic said:
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So,
Cons: old device, probably no more support from htc, probably no ginger and most likely no sense 2.0 and custom ROMs with it will never be smooth
Pros: overall a decent phone, satisfied with it but very pissed on the HTC support
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Not true - i use coolexe HD v5 ROM (sense 2) which fits as a whole in the internal memory. This ROM - to me - is as fast and snappy as the original ROM. Couldn't believe it by myself when i tried it first...
And HTC is the best company when it comes to supporting it's devices. See Sony and Motorola fiasko... Shure, they won't support it forever, but community is great and if you are willing to "play" with it, it will last even longer.
Only thing i would complain about Desire is, that it doesn't have a "real" multitouch display - though pinch to zoom is working flawless. For me, it's a near perfect device - more than any other device - even until now.

Thanks guys i appreciate all the comments. Im fairly sure my friends will be getting this phone. It sounds very very similar to my incredible
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hudl said:
Not true - i use coolexe HD v5 ROM (sense 2) which fits as a whole in the internal memory. This ROM - to me - is as fast and snappy as the original ROM. Couldn't believe it by myself when i tried it first...
And HTC is the best company when it comes to supporting it's devices. See Sony and Motorola fiasko... Shure, they won't support it forever, but community is great and if you are willing to "play" with it, it will last even longer.
Only thing i would complain about Desire is, that it doesn't have a "real" multitouch display - though pinch to zoom is working flawless. For me, it's a near perfect device - more than any other device - even until now.
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Belive me, I have tried all of the Desire HD/Z ports available, even since november when they started to show up. I have tried all kinds of tweaks, some of them that you haven't even heard of probably. Ext2 which is supposed to be faster, ext4 without journal, ext partition alignment, ownhere's data2ext version (2ext partitions), patched sqlite, overclock, undervolted kernel + overclock, I even bought a class 6 card especially for this. I always rolled back to leedroid. Belive me, I have tried them all, they are still ports not optimized for desire and never will run smoothly.
I really have hopes for gingerbread, but for sense 2.0, no chance.

I have my Desire for just over a week now and i must say i really love it!
But then again i came from the LG Arena (KM900) which is just an awfull phone, so my opion might not be the most objective.. i never had another Android phone before..
I did some research before getting mine at the beginning of 2011, and the Desire being almost a year old, even then alot of sites still rate the original Desire in their top 5, most sites (in europe) compare it with the iPhone4, Samsung Galaxy S, and HTC's own Desire HD. i really liked the 3.7" screen size, the 4" on the HD & Galaxy S (with the same resolution as the 3,7") are just too big for me..
and actually the Desire being almost a year old was actually a great selling point for me. Last time i had to choose a new phone i wanted the top notch, and that was right before LG came out with the Arena, they made it look as the perfect and best phone ever.. (the other options at that time being phones with WM6.5 or iPhone..) but man was i disappointed. So this time around i did some better research , and a phone being almost a year old but still being rated that high couldn't be a misser! Also with such a big community behind it i knew there would be lots of 'of road' stuff to try with it... (but that could be true for most android phones..)
Then there was the rumour of HTC new line up coming soon, but hey new phones come out all the time, and you can't wait forever.. anyway my contract with vodafone would end pretty soon and i had to act fast..
but like i said before, i'm really happy with it. I'm a linux fan and pretty well educated in IT so started messing with it the second day i got it , rooted it, installed several different mods just to try them out.. i'm still amazed what's possible with it.. (today i tried the 'PicMe' app for the first time, which let you view and control the device through any browser.. amazing)
anyway very happy it and i'm sure you're friend would be too...
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and to react on all the cons noted above:
battery live is what i expected from talking to friends owning android phones (and iPhones for that matter..), i just hook it up to the recharger every night anyway... but mostly end up with 30-40% left and the end of the day , and im using it pretty intense atm, just trying out new stuff all day long
and mods not being smooth : I'm running CM7 now, with data2sd mod and its running perfectly smooth for me (with the stock SD).. but might get a faster (&bigger) SD one day, but no complaints from me at all..

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Belive me, I have tried all of the Desire HD/Z ports available, even since november when they started to show up. I have tried all kinds of tweaks, some of them that you haven't even heard of probably. Ext2 which is supposed to be faster, ext4 without journal, ext partition alignment, ownhere's data2ext version (2ext partitions), patched sqlite, overclock, undervolted kernel + overclock, I even bought a class 6 card especially for this. I always rolled back to leedroid. Belive me, I have tried them all, they are still ports not optimized for desire and never will run smoothly.
I really have hopes for gingerbread, but for sense 2.0, no chance.
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Oh, i believe you of course. And, really, i don't know why the same phone reacts so different for different people. But for me, i found my winner - and it's sense 2!
I have no lags after unlocking the screen, scrolling in long lists, switching the tasks or whatsoever. I have no cause to go back to sense 1. Leedroid wasn't stable for me as wasn't RCMixHD. I think everyone has to test it by him/herself what's the best ROM - but hey, that's why we are on Android and not iOS, right?

lvnatic said:
Old phone already, I doubt that even gingerbread will be availabe as an OTA update, not even mentioning sense 2.0 because of the low internal memory.
So,
Cons: old device, probably no more support from htc, probably no ginger and most likely no sense 2.0 and custom ROMs with it will never be...
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HTC confirmed the GB update & Sense 2 for it. ATM using sense 2 with a custom ROM, and if you know-how, a custom ROM can be faster&smother than the stock. At least in my case is.
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My Pro & Cons views on HTC Desire
Pros: Decent screen size, LED flash, variety of ROMs after flashing making it rather silly not to flash , Flashing solves quite a number of problems. My 'light' usage normally drops to 30-40% near the end of the day but flashing a good kernel manage to keep it up to 60s . Decent speakers.
Cons:
a)Low int memory (Solvable by flashing- you need to know the difference. )
b)Low batt life (This is such a cheap comment I don't even consider it as a con and neither should you, I don't get why some losers keep trolling about practically ALL the smartphones just because they weren't designed to last that long or maybe they didn't put such a big battery for a reason. Pregnant smartphones...)
c)Hot when using phone while charging. (Not sure if it is a general issue)
d)Difficult back cover. (If no protection, the plastic lens is sitting on table and supposably it's a bad thing. More exposed to scratches and can ruin shots)
Hard to open as well if no nails (mine has scratches lol I got no nails)
e) Proprietary micro usb charger is not covered. Glhf with dust if you work in a dirty area (with lotta dust)
f) Power button extremely easy to press. Over-sensitive. (Solvable by reducing screen off timer by 15s or so, if you use a good rom, it lets you go lower for lock-screens )
g) Wifi reception is weak. (Tested with a friend's N8, has 2 bar while I got none, has full bar while I have 2-3 -_-, I changed a lot of radios, difference never really hit more than over a bar)
h) Idk why they put speakers at the back, srsly. Lol.
i) tbc

Data2SD - Why is it not more popular

Since rooting a few months ago I have been using Starburst with Data2SD. It's brilliant, I have 1gb free for apps and even loading everything I want it's still got space free. Cheers DZ and Sibere Removes my one complaint about the HTC Desire.
Anyway, quite fancy some Gingerbread and also try out some of the Sense 3.0 stuff people are porting, had a go with Supernova but it's a bit slow compared to Starburst ( not a criticism as I know it's early in development ) so looking around at others ROM's Data2SD is not very popular.
A2SD+ still is in favour but I run out of space before getting all my apps on, Data++ needs me to S-OFF, and also looks more complicated to setup, mutiple partitions etc. Can't find a good explanation of Data2ext and Data2we as yet.
Just wondered why is Data2SD not so popular? Am i missing something?
Cheers

Scoop940 said:
Since rooting a few months ago I have been using Starburst with Data2SD. It's brilliant, I have 1gb free for apps and even loading everything I want it's still got space free. Cheers DZ and Sibere Removes my one complaint about the HTC Desire.
Anyway, quite fancy some Gingerbread and also try out some of the Sense 3.0 stuff people are porting, had a go with Supernova but it's a bit slow compared to Starburst ( not a criticism as I know it's early in development ) so looking around at others ROM's Data2SD is not very popular.
A2SD+ still is in favour but I run out of space before getting all my apps on, Data++ needs me to S-OFF, and also looks more complicated to setup, mutiple partitions etc. Can't find a good explanation of Data2ext and Data2we as yet.
Just wondered why is Data2SD not so popular? Am i missing something?
Cheers
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Am not sure on this also. Using data2sd is the number one thing, that make's my desire great, without it i'll be lost.
All this App2SD+ is not really that good, you still use all your internal, befor ext3 is used.
I love the fact I have 2GB internal space and not having to worry, about not enough space. Every RoM should have this Data2SD I think

I was a big fan of DATA2SD but it lacks wide compatibility with ROMs: now I'm more than satisfied with CM7 Hboot + Dalvik on sd-ext: got to have over 250 apps installed and still 50 MB in internal.

AFAIK:
- Speed: Most of the time internal memory is faster.
- Corruption: I read that Android does not unmount /data cleanly, so there is a chance of data corruption. Am i still right on this?

I haven't managed to get data2sd working on my phone yet but apps2sd+ is working nicely.
I don't need heaps installed on my phone but have a fair few apps that I want and it seems to be working ok with a apps2sd+ setup.
I have read mixed things about data2sd regarding corruption possible, and also confused about speed as I read that the sd can be faster (probably depending on class?) than internal, and also that internal is faster than sd - so I'm confused
but my phone is working ok at the moment!
SuperNova will probably work a lot better when the official release comes out for Gingerbread

My phone feels faster using Data2sd, and certainly the quadrant scores of 2000+ are much higher than the wife's stock Desire. As for corruption, yes I have, when I have pulled the battery for some reason. Not had a problem for months though.
Regular Nandroid and scheduled titanium backups cover that off anyway.

Scoop940 said:
My phone feels faster using Data2sd, and certainly the quadrant scores of 2000+ are much higher than the wife's stock Desire. As for corruption, yes I have, when I have pulled the battery for some reason. Not had a problem for months though.
Regular Nandroid and scheduled titanium backups cover that off anyway.
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You do know that these quadrant scores are fake, don't you? I'm quite happy with a2sd and cm7 hboot gingersense roms
I don't think that I would ever sacrifice my data to get more apps
Sent from my HTC Desire

I appreciate the quadrant scores aren't accurate as they change everytime I run it, but the phone feels faster and smoother.
Any links to the fake quadrant score stuff?
Cheers

I have been using data2sd for about one year, and never had data loss or even a single force close of an app.
My phone always runs very fast and smooth, cant say its faster than stock because I wasn't on stock long enough,but I did have lots of force close's on app2sd+ leedroid

[Q] Cyanogen faster then Leedroid?

Hey, I am currently using Leedroid 3.0.5 with Sense. The other night my friend took out his Iphone 4. He then proceeded to show me a few games on it, which I had on my Desire. I noticed one thing, they ALL ran so much smoother and faster then on my desire. The Iphone 4's interface also seems more responsive then mine. (Not that mine is slow, but until I saw the Iphone 4 in action I never realized the difference)
It got me thinking that maybe the problem is the sense overlay on top of the original Gingerbread. If I remove sense by installing Cyanogen will this speed up my phone? Also, compared to my current Rom how does Cyanogen stack up?
Thanks for any opinions, helpful tips and flaming. See ya!

Yes. but oxygen is far quicker then cm7 and leedroid. Sense is nice but it slows your phone down. Get oxygen or cm7 and you will have an iphone beater

jukethehitman said:
Yes. but oxygen is far quicker then cm7 and leedroid. Sense is nice but it slows your phone down. Get oxygen or cm7 and you will have an iphone beater
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If you want fast sense, try reflex s. It's overclocked. Use setcpu to control battery usage.

Every time my mate digs out his iPhone, I just laugh at him.
And the word is "thAn" as in, "When my phone is faster THAN his, THEN I will be happy"... Since when did Yanks, even snap-frozen Yanks from the north, decide it was their God-given right to ruin the English language??
Sorry /rant.

777ace said:
Every time my mate digs out his iPhone, I just laugh at him.
And the word is "thAn" as in, "When my phone is faster THAN his, THEN I will be happy"... Since when did Yanks, even snap-frozen Yanks from the north, decide it was their God-given right to ruin the English language??
Sorry /rant.
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I saw "buyed" in another thread, but hey, as a friend insists, the purpose of language is to get the message across.

Joshua3109 said:
Hey, I am currently using Leedroid 3.0.5 with Sense. The other night my friend took out his Iphone 4. He then proceeded to show me a few games on it, which I had on my Desire. I noticed one thing, they ALL ran so much smoother and faster then on my desire. The Iphone 4's interface also seems more responsive then mine. (Not that mine is slow, but until I saw the Iphone 4 in action I never realized the difference)
It got me thinking that maybe the problem is the sense overlay on top of the original Gingerbread. If I remove sense by installing Cyanogen will this speed up my phone? Also, compared to my current Rom how does Cyanogen stack up?
Thanks for any opinions, helpful tips and flaming. See ya!
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Think of it like having a car (any of the AOSP based ROMS - CM, Oxygen, MIUI) then add a trailer (Sense). Naturally the car will go faster without the trailer
But at the end of the day, your experience is about more than speed - for some people appearance is important, or eye candy. Really nice to see the weather animation on a Sense 3 lockscreen.... try and do that with an iphone.
I guess what I'm saying that comparing just speed is kinda pointless.

I'd be more inclined to liken it to a stripped down Bugatti Veyron speedway racer, painted with matt black housepaint and scarily fast, compared with the same car coming of the factory floor with airconditioning, power steering etc. Still quick for a road car, but a lot more bells and whistles.
But I agree, it's not all about the speed. I've given the AOSP ROMs a run and yes, they are very snappy and responsive, but also quite bland (imo). I am happy to sacrifice a few nanoseconds of response time, and less battery time, in favour of all the pretty things that make up Sense.
And as I said above, when my mate digs out his iP4, I just laugh at him, cos his phone doesn't have half the features mine does...
Why not flash CM7 or Oxygen and give them a run for a few days? See how your mates brick compares...?

777ace said:
I'd be more inclined to liken it to a stripped down Bugatti Veyron speedway racer, painted with matt black housepaint and scarily fast, compared with the same car coming of the factory floor with airconditioning, power steering etc. Still quick for a road car, but a lot more bells and whistles.
But I agree, it's not all about the speed. I've given the AOSP ROMs a run and yes, they are very snappy and responsive, but also quite bland (imo). I am happy to sacrifice a few nanoseconds of response time, and less battery time, in favour of all the pretty things that make up Sense.
And as I said above, when my mate digs out his iP4, I just laugh at him, cos his phone doesn't have half the features mine does...
Why not flash CM7 or Oxygen and give them a run for a few days? See how your mates brick compares...?
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I would like to for a change of pace but the thing stopping me is my past experiences with flashing Leedroid alone. You see, I have Apps2SD+ and I have 18mb of free space left on my Desire, so I have a few apps.
I wouldn't want to give Cyanogen a test run if I had to spend hours putting everything back on my phone.
That is really my only problem, so here are a few questions.
1. Whats a good backup program so I can just reflash Leedroid back on once im done with Cyanogen? And how difficult is this to do?
2. About my apps being on the EXT 3 part of my sd card. Will I have to format my Sd card, remake the partitions and install all my apps again?
Any tips or suggestions related to or outside of what I asked would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a ton community!

1- Use "Nandroid" (in recovery); 2 click (or trackball presses, in our case) and done, same for restoring.
2- Cyanogen supports sd-ext in ext3 (install s2e from market), but I reccomend you to format your sd-ext after you do it app-backup with "Titanium Backup" (without any doubt, the best program for do app backups). you can restore the apps (with data) selectively after CM7 installs. (Be careful with "Sense apps" restoring in aosp -or you'll have to flash it again-)
I came from Leedroid, CM7 is much faster (but it haven't "Sense" xD)

777ace said:
Every time my mate digs out his iPhone, I just laugh at him.
And the word is "thAn" as in, "When my phone is faster THAN his, THEN I will be happy"... Since when did Yanks, even snap-frozen Yanks from the north, decide it was their God-given right to ruin the English language??
Sorry /rant.
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+1 for the English language
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

timmaaa said:
+1 for the English language
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Yeah init

Sense 3.5 ROMs - Why so laggy?

Hey there,
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light as to why Sense 3.5 ROMs tend to lag so much? I've tried practically every one from Virtuous Affinity, to RCMix 3D to RunnyMead. By far, I got the smoothest experience from the latter. I tried everything to try to improve performance from removing unnecessary system apps like HTC Watch, to using Supercharger script, to a sd-ext on my SD card. Yet I can never seem to escape lag! Now I'm using a Sense 3.0 rom, that is, Virtuous Unity and it's so much faster and smoother despite its using up a similar amount of space. I really like the 3.5 ROMs but I just can't use them because they're too slow and laggy despite my best efforts to speed them up...

I could be wrong but the sense 3.5 is a port from another phone that may be why. To be honest I dislike sense with a passion. I'm an AOSP type of guy. I'm pretty sure that the developers working on that rom will make it faster. Btw you mentioned your using sdext which one are you using?
Sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk

blahbl4hblah said:
I could be wrong but the sense 3.5 is a port from another phone that may be why. To be honest I dislike sense with a passion. I'm an AOSP type of guy. I'm pretty sure that the developers working on that rom will make it faster. Btw you mentioned your using sdext which one are you using?
Sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk
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Yeah I tried AOSP but I only like Ice Cream Sandwich, which still isn't working fully at the moment. I'm using a 128mb sd ext4 with a 256 swap partition.

You call Virtuous Unity fast? I used it for 2 months and easily can say that it is the laggiest thing I have ever seen, but these kind of things are relative... Have you tried MikRunny or BeatMod BlissSense Hybird? I am using BlissSense now and so happy with it, even without swap or supercharger, it doesn't lag, and also Bliss rosie looks really classy

TRFFTR said:
You call Virtuous Unity fast? I used it for 2 months and easily can say that it is the laggiest thing I have ever seen, but these kind of things are relative... Have you tried MikRunny or BeatMod BlissSense Hybird? I am using BlissSense now and so happy with it, even without swap or supercharger, it doesn't lag, and also Bliss rosie looks really classy
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Yeah I take my statement regarding unity back cos after one day of use, it just kept getting slower and slower... yeah I'm using BlissDroid now, the new one by alirez_sos! So fast, stable and smooth!

Ungrateful
lunoma said:
Hey there,
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light as to why Sense 3.5 ROMs tend to lag so much? I've tried practically every one from Virtuous Affinity, to RCMix 3D to RunnyMead. By far, I got the smoothest experience from the latter. I tried everything to try to improve performance from removing unnecessary system apps like HTC Watch, to using Supercharger script, to a sd-ext on my SD card. Yet I can never seem to escape lag! Now I'm using a Sense 3.0 rom, that is, Virtuous Unity and it's so much faster and smoother despite its using up a similar amount of space. I really like the 3.5 ROMs but I just can't use them because they're too slow and laggy despite my best efforts to speed them up...
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Be Happy We Have Devs Putting their time and effort into porting and making ROMs for us to Flash
Hit that Sexy Thanks button'

Debel said:
Be Happy We Have Devs Putting their time and effort into porting and making ROMs for us to Flash
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OP hasn't criticized the Devs, just asking the technical or specific reason that Sense 3.X ROMs lag in comparison to older versions of Sense.
To some extent, I'm wondering the same thing. Its always said that Sense 3.X takes up more memory than the G2/DZ has to offer. But what exactly is taking up all the memory? For instance, on NRG's RCMix Energized Blue version, he has made for a smooth rosie experience, yet the phone often lags for several seconds when starting apps or going into Settings. Rosie is not the issue alone, since I use ADW as my launcher, and yet the Sense 3.X ROMs still lag.
Hybrid ROMs like Synergy and InsertCoin bring many of the Sense 3.X apps to Sense 2.x (lockscreen, camera, weather and more), and yet those ROMs are much more responsive than Sense 3.x ROMs. So it doesn't seem to be the apps themselves.
If its some component of the Sense framework sucking up memory, has anybody identified what and why, or if it can be removed or modded?

lunoma said:
Yeah I tried AOSP but I only like Ice Cream Sandwich, which still isn't working fully at the moment. I'm using a 128mb sd ext4 with a 256 swap partition.
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I hope you do realize that size of sdext is a reason why your phone is running so slow

Debel said:
Be Happy We Have Devs Putting their time and effort into porting and making ROMs for us to Flash
Hit that Sexy Thanks button'
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Excuse me, I'm far from ungrateful! I've tried various different ROMs and have offered my feedback on them to the developers so they'll have an idea on which areas to improve. I think the work that has been done has been fantastic such as the recent addition of Ice Cream Sandwich, which will I believe be glitch free. I was merely asking why some Sense 3.0 ROMs tend to be laggy and what have other people's experiences been of them.

blahbl4hblah said:
I hope you do realize that size of sdext is a reason why your phone is running so slow
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Oh that was the size that was recommended on the Virtuous Affinity thread... what size would you yourself recommend in that case? Thanks!

lunoma said:
Oh that was the size that was recommended on the Virtuous Affinity thread... what size would you yourself recommend in that case? Thanks!
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1gb, I don't know why they recommended the smallest possible size which causes your phone to run so slow. All of my roms use sdext and I always recommend at least 1gb

blahbl4hblah said:
1gb, I don't know why they recommended the smallest possible size which causes your phone to run so slow. All of my roms use sdext and I always recommend at least 1gb
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Intresting.. I'll try it on hmm.. on what? Which rom you recomended to daily use? Sense 3.0 and 3.5 of course, doesn't matter which.

Youleck said:
Intresting.. I'll try it on hmm.. on what? Which rom you recomended to daily use? Sense 3.0 and 3.5 of course, doesn't matter which.
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I say go aosp its faster then both and you'll have a smoother experience. I'm an aosp guy not sense but stability wise go 3.0

Sense roms take time to break in, especially on the G2.
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blahbl4hblah said:
1gb, I don't know why they recommended the smallest possible size which causes your phone to run so slow. All of my roms use sdext and I always recommend at least 1gb
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I use 512mb. Works for me on sense roms. I gave up 3.0 sense cause of the lag. I guess because of the amount of resources it drains there's a performance hit. It became to much of a hassle. My opinion. Still sexy ass rom lol
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