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will anyone be porting cyanogen Roms

HI there I am sure there is a lot of people who want this Rom. We have the kernal now someone must be able to do it.

You perhaps?
Seriously though, I started looking into building the 2.69.29 kernel, and got as far as setting up a development environment and building the 2.69.27 kernel from source.
However, Google then announced Android 2.0, and HTC announced that the Hero would be getting it, so I rather lost interest in spending a load of time on something which will likely become obsolete in a few weeks. I'm sure that's the case for many people here who were thinking about dipping their toes in.
Regards,
Dave

Yes but remember if you learn how to compile kernels and all that fun stuff then you can help bring the latetst and greatest to the phone after 2.0. Thats what Im trying to do. I have a CDMA Hero so I'm trying to help build the dev community there.

chuckhriczko said:
Yes but remember if you learn how to compile kernels and all that fun stuff then you can help bring the latetst and greatest to the phone after 2.0. Thats what Im trying to do. I have a CDMA Hero so I'm trying to help build the dev community there.
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I know how to build kernels - it's the balls-aching work of adding the HTC changes to 2.69.29 that doesn't interest me because I can tell you for certain, it won't be fun! Given that 2.0 is just around the corner (hopefully!), I personally don't see much benefit at this stage.
Regards,
Dave

E2K said:
yeah, it would be the biggest investment ever on the Hero board to learn how to change the HTC apps to the original android apps...
I mean like F*CK reiserFS and ext5 kernel support. WTF will that give us?
It was a mistake to buy a Hero. It cost me 340 Euros, to see people f*cking around, while achieving NOTHING. If I had a G1, which is 150 euros cheaper, I would be running 1.6 WITH the Sense UI, should I ever want that. With full WIFI, Bluetooth, GPS, camera, trackball, sensor, everything.
Now I am stuck with an ugly ass branded Hero.
I seriously hate all the people who told me and who wrote that the Sense UI was great. I hope all their phones brick!
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Just have patience. As I have stated I came from the Dream forums. Quite honestly, I would still have my Dream if I didnt have to switch to Sprint but I did and now have the Hero. Thing is, we are rolling along pretty well. We just need patience. It took a long time to get more devs working on the Dream. At first we just had JesusFreke for the longest time but then we got Haykuro who was an amazing dev. Then Cyanogen came along and so did the others. I am working hard trying to learn this stuff as I am sure a lot of us are. Just be patient. The Hero will get it's due.

E2K said:
yeah, it would be the biggest investment ever on the Hero board to learn how to change the HTC apps to the original android apps...
I mean like F*CK reiserFS and ext5 kernel support. WTF will that give us?
It was a mistake to buy a Hero. It cost me 340 Euros, to see people f*cking around, while achieving NOTHING. If I had a G1, which is 150 euros cheaper, I would be running 1.6 WITH the Sense UI, should I ever want that. With full WIFI, Bluetooth, GPS, camera, trackball, sensor, everything.
Now I am stuck with an ugly ass branded Hero.
I seriously hate all the people who told me and who wrote that the Sense UI was great. I hope all their phones brick!
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Wow, I have no words at all. I would be flaming this guys post if I wasnt this tired..

Foxmeister is right. Seriously, with the rapid changes in play, with HTC announcing they will be bringing Android 2.0 to the Hero soon, it makes little sense to invest time right now tweaking a kernel build that will be obsoleted. Hopefully HTC will give us an Android 2.0 build for Xmas. Then, we will start doing some serious playing with the kernel.

E2K said:
The situation now is like this:
(Linux analogy.)
-How is your linux install going?
"Well, I am just finishing patching my kernel, because I don't need SSE4 instructions you know, plus I want to add-in reiserFS support, you never know when that will come in handy "
-Cool, so you got everything working?
"Err, no. They headphone jack does not work, also the trackpad of my laptop does not work. I can't connect to my wifi router, hmm, what else?
Oh yeah, bluetooth does not seem to work, but who uses that anyway "
-...yeah, indeed, who uses wifi, or the trackpad right? I believe that you are skilled enough, that if you devoted your reiserFS and sse4 time to making the basic things work, you would have it running in no time!
"stfu noob! who are you to tell me which features I use or don't use??"
Yeah, it ends in tears of course
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And did u do anything to change this situation but naging?
Seriuosly dude, you are not contributing anything at all to this community right now. And you are naging about others work?
And people have real lifes outside of xda development...

behnaam said:
And did u do anything to change this situation but naging?
Seriuosly dude, you are not contributing anything at all to this community right now. And you are naging about others work?
And people have real lifes outside of xda development...
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I tried a 100 times to make developers realize that the knowledge to replace apps with 'real android' ones, will be worth everything, as it will be instant "vanilla" android 2.0 when that hits, including Google navigation (should HTC decide to leave that out).
Nobody is listening, and all the devs 'we have' (I mean people who develop Hero firmwares) are all working seperate on having their own modded, or not modded, ext3 or ext4 support, 1.5 or 1.6 kernels.
I know that I may sound like a noob, but I believe I have a point.
My contribution is insight. The insight that people who work separate lack; the knowledge that if all you hero Devs would work together, nothing could stop you.
You would be uploading videos of Google navigation on Hero even before the G1 had it. I believe in your combined skills, I really do.
I would have sold my Hero after 4 days if I did not believe

E2K said:
yeah, it would be the biggest investment ever on the Hero board to learn how to change the HTC apps to the original android apps...
SNIP>>>
I seriously hate all the people who told me and who wrote that the Sense UI was great. I hope all their phones brick!
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Hahah hilarious, you're a credit to this forum, and to the unluckly humans that bore you.
Seriously, have you got nothing better to complain about? If you don't like Sense UI, then go and buy the Magic or the Samsung Galaxy, at least we wouldn't have to listen to your whinging here...
E2K said:
I tried a 100 times to make developers realize that the knowledge to replace apps with 'real android' ones, will be worth everything, as it will be instant "vanilla" android 2.0 when that hits, including Google navigation (should HTC decide to leave that out).
Nobody is listening, and all the devs 'we have' (I mean people who develop Hero firmwares) are all working seperate on having their own modded, or not modded, ext3 or ext4 support, 1.5 or 1.6 kernels.
I know that I may sound like a noob, but I believe I have a point.
My contribution is insight. The insight that people who work separate lack; the knowledge that if all you hero Devs would work together, nothing could stop you.
You would be uploading videos of Google navigation on Hero even before the G1 had it. I believe in your combined skills, I really do.
I would have sold my Hero after 4 days if I did not believe
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Your contribution isn't insight, it's just an attempt to reduce the phone to the same Android device that everyone else has, instead of making improvements/optimisations to better the way the standard device works with kernel improvements, speed increases and new features.

Why don't you help with the ION/Cupcake development effort anyway (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578162)???

E2K said:
I tried a 100 times to make developers realize that the knowledge to replace apps with 'real android' ones, will be worth everything, as it will be instant "vanilla" android 2.0 when that hits, including Google navigation (should HTC decide to leave that out).
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Oh I see - so just because you want this, you think someone else should spend *their* time and effort to achieve *your* goals. That is no contribution.
According to this poll, it is currently over 7 to 1 in favour of Sense UI (subject to change of course! ), but because *you* don't like it you think that devs shouldn't worry about Sense UI and look at vanilla Android!
As I've already stated, IMHO working on a 2.69.29 kernel is a pointless waste of time right now, as we can expect HTC to drop a fully functional Android 2.0 *with* Sense UI in the near future. Once we have that, the kernel ripped out and dumped into a vanilla Android build, but this will only be done by some who knows how to do it, and crucially wants to!
Here's a tip - if you don't like it, go and build a new version yourself. There's nothing stopping you!
Regards,
Dave

kwiksand said:
Why don't you help with the ION/Cupcake development effort anyway (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578162)???
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What is there to help?
post things like:
"Oh I'm so sad that your computer broke down D': !!!"
"wow I hoppe you really get the accelerometer working!!"
Come on now.
Nobody is making progress by posting in that thread. I read every single page so I know. The only progress is done by the poor developer, poor because people will forget about him as soon as a better one stands up; or when HTC releases 2.0
I wanted to cherish that developer because I believe he is skilled enough to replace the HTC apps one day, and bring to us the closest to vanilla android as is possible without having actual vanilla android (which would not have proper wifi, BT, accelerometer, headphone support, etc etc etc anyway)

foxmeister said:
Oh I see - so just because you want this, you think someone else should spend *their* time and effort to achieve *your* goals. That is no contribution.
According to this poll, it is currently over 7 to 1 in favour of Sense UI (subject to change of course! ), but because *you* don't like it you think that devs shouldn't worry about Sense UI and look at vanilla Android!
As I've already stated, IMHO working on a 2.69.29 kernel is a pointless waste of time right now, as we can expect HTC to drop a fully functional Android 2.0 *with* Sense UI in the near future. Once we have that, the kernel ripped out and dumped into a vanilla Android build, but this will only be done by some who knows how to do it, and crucially wants to!
Here's a tip - if you don't like it, go and build a new version yourself. There's nothing stopping you!
Regards,
Dave
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Everyone who is working on 2.69.29 in a way is pointless, because it is too hard for them to ever get a fully functional android anyway.
They know this themselves.
Their biggest achievement would be to get even half the stuff working, we are not talking about a fully functional rom here!
I did my part in mailing, calling and twittering HTC to release the source, so that the Devs could do what they do best better; develop.
I am a poor med student, I don't have money to throw around on another android phone, I need to buy books and ****.

E2K said:
I did my part in mailing, calling and twittering HTC to release the source, so that the Devs could do what they do best better; develop.
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E2K said:
I wanted to cherish that developer because I believe he is skilled enough to replace the HTC apps one day
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E2K said:
It was a mistake to buy a Hero. It cost me 340 Euros, to see people f*cking around, while achieving NOTHING
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Yeh - you're really helpful - when it comes to bad mouthing people, because you can't get what you want and aren't skilled enough to do it yourself. Great job at "cherishing" benhaam, I can see he's really impressed by your attitude.
E2K said:
I am a poor med student, I don't have money to throw around on another android phone, I need to buy books and ****.
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Here's a suggestion, if you stop talking it, you could just concentrate on buying the books!
Once again, you've missed the crucial point, and that is that no one around here wants to piss around with Donut etc, when Eclair for the Hero is just around the corner.
If you want a vanilla Android device, sell your Hero and buy a 32A Magic. I'm sure you'd find someone in the Sapphire forums willing to trade!
Dave

Hi Dave,
I appreciate that you give your opinion!
I understand that 2.0 is around the corner, and that because of that, nobody wants to invest in 'old' roms, which is understandable.
Still, as I tried to explain many times; the know-how of changing stock apps, can be used on any version of android. That is why I said it would be an investment;
Let's say HTC does not include the vanilla android navigation application in 2.0..
When we are able to exchange the apps, we can fix that in 1 day.

kwiksand said:
Seriously, have you got nothing better to complain about? If you don't like Sense UI, then go and buy the Magic or the Samsung Galaxy, at least we wouldn't have to listen to your whinging here...
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Sense UI is useless and poorly coded. I bought the Hero because I was convinced that I can actually disable this. I like the form-factor of the Hero - thats why I bought it. Not this useless eye-candy.
If a stable release of a vanilla android 2.0 comes out for the Hero I would jump on it right away and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one.

E2K said:
including Google navigation (should HTC decide to leave that out).
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E2K said:
My contribution is insight.
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i will write that down.
E2K said:
Still, as I tried to explain many times; the know-how of changing stock apps, can be used on any version of android. That is why I said it would be an investment;
Let's say HTC does not include the vanilla android navigation application in 2.0..
When we are able to exchange the apps, we can fix that in 1 day.
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still, the only problem we have is that you and three others are the only four people in the world that want to have a vanilla android over htc sense...
so devs team up and the world... erh no the mighty group of four shall be yours forever... until eclair is released.

stingerpl said:
Sense UI is useless and poorly coded. I bought the Hero because I was convinced that I can actually disable this. I like the form-factor of the Hero - thats why I bought it. Not this useless eye-candy.
If a stable release of a vanilla android 2.0 comes out for the Hero I would jump on it right away and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one.
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Same here!
The build quality and the form-factor were my reasons for getting the hero, I really wanted an android phone (without keyboard) and this one had the best processor (7200A instead of 7201) and most memory.

E2K said:
Still, as I tried to explain many times; the know-how of changing stock apps, can be used on any version of android. That is why I said it would be an investment;
Let's say HTC does not include the vanilla android navigation application in 2.0..
When we are able to exchange the apps, we can fix that in 1 day.
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It's not a worthwhile investment IMHO.
Once 2.0 drops for the Hero, you'd be able to build a vanilla 2.0 from the Eclair AOSP because you'll have the correct kernel (2.69.31 I think) with all the HTC driver specific parts. You could do the same today for 1.5 (Cupcake) because we already have the correct kernel for this.
The issue with doing this for Donut is that there's quite a lot of work porting the HTC kernel changes from 2.69.27 to 2.69.29, and this will *all* be rendered redundant when 2.0 drops.
As an aside, there is no reason at all to expect that HTC won't include Google Maps Navigation in their 2.0 build for Hero, but even if they don't getting it working should be relatively trivial. Getting it working on Cupcake though, which is two generations of OS behind, would be much, much harder and again wasted effort once 2.0 is finally available.
Regards,
Dave

[Q] So, has any dev announced work on a port of the Desire HD ROM?

Haven't seen any for the EVO yet.

TheBiles said:
Haven't seen any for the EVO yet.
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Well, I read that they already have a pretty good port for the HD2 already (Which is great for that device since a working Android port would really breathe life into it), and I would think that it would be even easier to port to the Evo simply because they are both designed to run Android.
However, I'm not sure there would really be much to gain by doing that, but maybe i'm wrong.

rooster94 said:
Well, I read that they already have a pretty good port for the HD2 already (Which is great for that device since a working Android port would really breathe life into it), and I would think that it would be even easier to port to the Evo simply because they are both designed to run Android.
However, I'm not sure there would really be much to gain by doing that, but maybe i'm wrong.
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The new HTC Sense looks to be the grand prize from the dump.
I would like to know what dev is going to atleast attempt to port the new Sense or the ROM as a whole.
Mainly, I just want the new Sense.

I honestly don't think we're going to get close to a Desire port until the CDMA or world phone version is launched. It will be a real ***** to port the GSM frameworks to CDMA. It might be possible to get the new sense ripped out of it, but from what I've seen Sense is embedded in both the apps AND the frameworks.

deathsled said:
I honestly don't think we're going to get close to a Desire port until the CDMA or world phone version is launched. It will be a real ***** to port the GSM frameworks to CDMA. It might be possible to get the new sense ripped out of it, but from what I've seen Sense is embedded in both the apps AND the frameworks.
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We had the Nexus One AOSP ROM, so I don't think it would be impossible.

[REQUEST]Request to port this ROM[REQUEST]

Hello beloved ROM Developers ,
I have actually never created a Request thread on XDA, so this is a first. It's a simple request for a ROM port, however, being completely oblivious to ROM development, I am not sure how simple it would actually be to implement it. I have reached out to the original Dev of this ROM, but did not hear anything back, so I thought I'd try my luck here. I am basically an EVO convert, now on VZW, with a DInc. I have been trying various ROMs for the DInc, but for some reason I keep missing the ROM I had on my EVO.
So, here goes nothing. Can someone please be kind enough to try and port this ROM to DInc?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808656
I understand that there is a similar ROM for DInc, I believe it's called Carbon Fusion or something like that, but in my trial of it, it lacked stability, speed, and the depth of customization that this EVO ROM has in it.
It's a humble request guys, please don't flame me, thanks for reading !

Have you tried GB?
ProFragger said:
Hello beloved ROM Developers ,
I have actually never created a Request thread on XDA, so this is a first. It's a simple request for a ROM port, however, being completely oblivious to ROM development, I am not sure how simple it would actually be to implement it. I have reached out to the original Dev of this ROM, but did not hear anything back, so I thought I'd try my luck here. I am basically an EVO convert, now on VZW, with a DInc. I have been trying various ROMs for the DInc, but for some reason I keep missing the ROM I had on my EVO.
So, here goes nothing. Can someone please be kind enough to try and port this ROM to DInc?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808656
I understand that there is a similar ROM for DInc, I believe it's called Carbon Fusion or something like that, but in my trial of it, it lacked stability, speed, and the depth of customization that this EVO ROM has in it.
It's a humble request guys, please don't flame me, thanks for reading !
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HTC Incredible OMFGB 2.3.1

pretty cool looking rom, reminds me of the WM manilla days on my touch before android came together

br125 said:
pretty cool looking rom, reminds me of the WM manilla days on my touch before android came together
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Indeed it is man, very stable, and very good looking ROM, I hope someone can take this up, I would be so grateful !
jaysckap, thanks for the suggestion, but I am Sense guy, all the way man... maybe when they have one with Sense ?
Thanks for reading guys !

I'm sure you know this already, but just in case, I think Incredible Re-engineered by Chingy and Redemptive Revolution are EVO ROM's. There are also a few others, but cant recall them right now.
But if you want something with new features, and some cool widgets, I suggest you check out The Desire Z ROM's. I wont use anything but Z ROM's now. They are very smooth.

Lsdozer said:
I'm sure you know this already, but just in case, I think Incredible Re-engineered by Chingy and Redemptive Revolution are EVO ROM's. There are also a few others, but cant recall them right now.
But if you want something with new features, and some cool widgets, I suggest you check out The Desire Z ROM's. I wont use anything but Z ROM's now. They are very smooth.
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i tried Warm Z for a couple days, but I had noticable lag over skyraider...what Z rom are you running?
I came from a droid 1 and didn't think I would be a sense guy, but i really like it.

ProFragger said:
Hello beloved ROM Developers ,
I have actually never created a Request thread on XDA, so this is a first. It's a simple request for a ROM port, however, being completely oblivious to ROM development, I am not sure how simple it would actually be to implement it. I have reached out to the original Dev of this ROM, but did not hear anything back, so I thought I'd try my luck here. I am basically an EVO convert, now on VZW, with a DInc. I have been trying various ROMs for the DInc, but for some reason I keep missing the ROM I had on my EVO.
So, here goes nothing. Can someone please be kind enough to try and port this ROM to DInc?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808656
I understand that there is a similar ROM for DInc, I believe it's called Carbon Fusion or something like that, but in my trial of it, it lacked stability, speed, and the depth of customization that this EVO ROM has in it.
It's a humble request guys, please don't flame me, thanks for reading !
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Are you liking this rom for how it works or how it looks? Because it looks like a sense rom. If you like it for how it looks im sure it would be easier to just make a theme.
Sent from my sexy assistant. (HTC Incredible)

cliefan said:
i tried Warm Z for a couple days, but I had noticable lag over skyraider...what Z rom are you running?
I came from a droid 1 and didn't think I would be a sense guy, but i really like it.
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For the lag, try switching kernels, I was having a little lag also. cant remember what kernel I switched to, but it cleared up the problem.
I also came from a D1, which I had for a year, and I love this Dinc. I am currently running mmmark's port of VirusROm. But I have had great luck with Super-Z standard by wes342

ProFragger said:
Indeed it is man, very stable, and very good looking ROM, I hope someone can take this up, I would be so grateful !
jaysckap, thanks for the suggestion, but I am Sense guy, all the way man... maybe when they have one with Sense ?
Thanks for reading guys !
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mashed it together with incredibly re-engineered and got it to boot and seems that everything works.
Very cool looking rom! Not sure where I can upload it, but I will if you'd like
edit: booting again and I'll let ya know what happens. This was done quickly and is by no means going to be supported or guaranteed to be identical to the donor rom, but it might be a good start for you.

synisterwolf said:
Are you liking this rom for how it works or how it looks? Because it looks like a sense rom. If you like it for how it looks im sure it would be easier to just make a theme.
Sent from my sexy assistant. (HTC Incredible)
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synisterwolf, I like this ROM for it's perfect blend of looks, performance, stability, and content. I too would not be opposed to a theme, but I thought it might be easier to ask someone to just look at the ROM to see exactly what's in there, and if it could all be cooked into one single ROM for the DInc. Again, I hope someone can do it... I remember hearing that EVO and DInc frameworks and development is very similar. So I wonder if it's only a matter of replacing the base with the latest Verizon, instead of Sprint, and then taking everything that's in the EVO ROM, while changing things that might matter, like the keyboard or the camera app, perhaps?
I haven't tried the Z ROMs at all, but this is because everyone one of them have bugs listed out on the main page, with camera issues, and even lag, as you mentioned... Perhaps the Thunderbolt dump and other things might be able to assist with these gaps?
Thanks again for the interest here, guys. If you would also like to see this ROM ported, please be sure to mention it in this thread, I am sure some generous developer will take a look at it ?

ProFragger said:
synisterwolf, I like this ROM for it's perfect blend of looks, performance, stability, and content. I too would not be opposed to a theme, but I thought it might be easier to ask someone to just look at the ROM to see exactly what's in there, and if it could all be cooked into one single ROM for the DInc. Again, I hope someone can do it... I remember hearing that EVO and DInc frameworks and development is very similar. So I wonder if it's only a matter of replacing the base with the latest Verizon, instead of Sprint, and then taking everything that's in the EVO ROM, while changing things that might matter, like the keyboard or the camera app, perhaps?
I haven't tried the Z ROMs at all, but this is because everyone one of them have bugs listed out on the main page, with camera issues, and even lag, as you mentioned... Perhaps the Thunderbolt dump and other things might be able to assist with these gaps?
Thanks again for the interest here, guys. If you would also like to see this ROM ported, please be sure to mention it in this thread, I am sure some generous developer will take a look at it ?
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I just remember a dev on here made a script that could port roms from evolution to inc. Ill search around and see if I can find it.
Edit:
http://www.incredibleforum.com/forum/htc-incredible-roms/5987-%5Btool%5D-flash_patch-v1-easiest-way-port-rom.html
Give it a shot.
Sent from my sexy assistant. (HTC Incredible)

If nothing pans out with getting this ported, try a Z rom. They appear to be very similar. Dont be scared off by the Issues they talk about. Dev's seem to do this for the Z, but they are very nice ROM's. The only issue that remains is basically the 720 recording, which I dont use. I have never experienced the 3G drops, and most dont.

anyone have a recommended upload site?.. i got it booted up and seems like everything works

br125 said:
anyone have a recommended upload site?.. i got it booted up and seems like everything works
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Thanks for the awesome responses guys!
br125, dude, thanks so much for your effort! I don't know much about the upload sites, people can help you with those... but have you tried the usual?
Megaupload, RapidShare, and etc?
Can anyone help host br125's files?
Thanks guys, I LOVE XDA !!!

br125 said:
anyone have a recommended upload site?.. i got it booted up and seems like everything works
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Dropbox?
Sent from my sexy assistant. (HTC Incredible)

alright here's the deal. I mashed this between chingy51o's incredibly re-engineered and xxbabboixx228's rom. I take absolutely no credit for the work and it is not identical to babiboi's rom.
Also you still see some remnants of chingy's rom in it that someone else if they want can clean up if they want to make a release from it.
I have not pm'd either of them to ask if I can make a release of it, as I do not intend to support it or make a public release thread etc. etc.
I will post it on dropbox and like I said, I'm not claiming any of the work or this rom, anyone can ask for permission from them to start a release thread for it and I only made this for the OP and my personal use.
edit: going another route, I'll report in a few. I really don't want to release anything, no matter what my intentions are, with parts from their rom without permission. Going to go for a direct port rather than mash together, don't really see the point in a frankenstien mess

ProFragger said:
Indeed it is man, very stable, and very good looking ROM, I hope someone can take this up, I would be so grateful !
jaysckap, thanks for the suggestion, but I am Sense guy, all the way man... maybe when they have one with Sense ?
Thanks for reading guys !
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Have you checked out my Rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869948

br125 said:
alright here's the deal. I mashed this between chingy51o's incredibly re-engineered and xxbabboixx228's rom. I take absolutely no credit for the work and it is not identical to babiboi's rom.
Also you still see some remnants of chingy's rom in it that someone else if they want can clean up if they want to make a release from it.
I have not pm'd either of them to ask if I can make a release of it, as I do not intend to support it or make a public release thread etc. etc.
I will post it on dropbox and like I said, I'm not claiming any of the work or this rom, anyone can ask for permission from them to start a release thread for it and I only made this for the OP and my personal use.
edit: going another route, I'll report in a few. I really don't want to release anything, no matter what my intentions are, with parts from their rom without permission.
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Keep us posted man, thanks for your help !
BTW, you said it is not identical to xxbabboixx228's ROM, what are the differences here? Thanks again man!

trock79 said:
Have you checked out my Rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869948
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I have trock79 and I think I have mentioned it in my thread too. It's great work, but not exactly to my liking.
I was not sure if you were open to taking requests to make changes to your ROM, based on User requests, so I didn't want to bother you. The EVO ROM was almost exactly how I wanted it, so it was just easy to explain, that is, just request a straight port.
I hope you are not offended or anything man, I liked your ROM too!

ProFragger said:
Keep us posted man, thanks for your help !
BTW, you said it is not identical to xxbabboixx228's ROM, what are the differences here? Thanks again man!
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nothing should be changed now

[Q] Why all Sense 3.0 ROMS threads being locked?

Dear Admins
Why locking every new Sense 3.0 ROM thread? (Spare Honeysense 3D)
I am really worried about the spirit of competition for Sense 3.0 development on DHD... Every new Sense 3.0 ROM being posted get locked within a day or so.
This is unhealthy practice and I would think it has dire consequences regarding pushing Sense 3.0 forward on our device.
There must be some other way to settle arguments other than doing it this way in public.
I have no hard-feelings towards any of the Devs involved in this matter, but it is getting way too much now.
I hope we can keep XDA forums a pleasant and civilized place for all Devs (like it is meant to be). After all, it is an open source OS and no one has rights to claim any part of the software spare HTC and Google Devs imho.
Cheers

naailalzuhir said:
Dear Admins
Why locking every new Sense 3.0 ROM thread? (Spare Honeysense 3D)
I am really worried about the spirit of competition for Sense 3.0 development on DHD... Every new Sense 3.0 ROM being posted get locked within a day or so.
This is unhealthy practice and I would think it has dire consequences regarding pushing Sense 3.0 forward on our device.
There must be some other way to settle arguments other than doing it this way in public.
I have no hard-feelings towards any of the Devs involved in this matter, but it is getting way too much now.
I hope we can keep XDA forums a pleasant and civilized place for all Devs (like it is meant to be). After all, it is an open source OS and no one has rights to claim any part of the software spare HTC and Google Devs imho.
Cheers
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I think it's because of people using virtuous unity as a base without their permission. There aren't many devs that can port and resize a stock Sensation etc. rom to the DHD, so that's why almost every new Sense 3.0 rom is based on a already existing port. If people made their own roms from scratch it would be ok as it would bring some diversity. Now all new sense 3.0 roms are practically the same as there can't be any huge differences if the devs don't know how to use the m10 tools for example.

Hawks556 said:
I think it's because of people using virtuous unity as a base without their permission. There aren't many devs that can port and resize a stock Sensation etc. rom to the DHD, so that's why almost every new Sense 3.0 rom is based on a already existing port. If people made their own roms from scratch it would be ok as it would bring some diversity. Now all new sense 3.0 roms are practically the same as there can't be any huge differences if the devs don't know how to use the m10 tools for example.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but don't all MIUI and Cyanogenmod custom ports are based on the original Rom with some tweaks? Why Sense 3 needs to be different...
I never saw an MIUI or Cyanogenmod custom ROM being locked for this reason.
If you have a good base that you can just simply tweak for better performance/custom looks, wouldn't that make devs lives easier and get us more choices to Flash? Of course I cannot expect someone to take a base without mentioning the original dev/team who cooked it and giving them proper credit for their work. But still mentioning them in credits should be enough imho. And still people have the choice to flash whatever they want.
Cheers

naailalzuhir said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but don't all MIUI and Cyanogenmod custom ports are based on the original Rom with some tweaks? Why Sense 3 needs to be different...
I never saw an MIUI or Cyanogenmod custom ROM being locked for this reason.
If you have a good base that you can just simply tweak for better performance/custom looks, wouldn't that make devs lives easier and get us more choices to Flash? Of course I cannot expect someone to take a base without mentioning the original dev/team who cooked it and giving them proper credit for their work. But still mentioning them in credits should be enough imho. And still people have the choice to flash whatever they want.
Cheers
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My main point is the last sentence in my previous post. There isn't much tweaking you can do as a dev if you don't know how to work with the rom in the first place. If someone wants to modify the looks of a rom they could just release a theme. There's just too little being added to these new roms that someone could be able to call it their own imo and then there's the permission part...
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I tried just about every ROM for my inspire and I decided to keep Honey3d.. after trying just about every sense 3.0 ROM, I believe that each one had its own touch. They look very similar but some just had a different style or look. Personally there was a big enough difference between them all to meet everyone's different styles.
If your worried about them all looking the same, take a look at some of the other ROMs out there too. Many of them look close to a bunch of the other ROMs.
Overall I don't really understand the locking on the 3.0 threads. I really hope I get to keep using Honey3D.. I don't really want to change to anything else
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i don't know about it.
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zy. said:
i don't know about it.
不知道
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Thanks for sharing that useful piece of information just to get your post count up
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Hawks556 said:
Thanks for sharing that useful piece of information just to get your post count up
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Lol....you see that all the time. I can't tell if its an attempt to boost post count or serious language barrier.
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Noob feeling totally lost...

Hi guys, just like to apologize for the noobness about to come, after looking around for 2 days im still no clearer at all...
So i have a new HTC Desire Z and i have the latest firmware that is officially released, no modding or anything yet has been done to the phone and im using sense 2.1...
Ok so im looking to modify my phone to get the latest sense 2.3 and to also be able to customize the phone a bit more then just changing themes other then just htc sense ones...
I dont understand at all if i need to root or the correct way to root on a desire z as ive read that some ways can brick the phone....
I also dont know if i need a new rom or where to get the from, again i heard that some are stable and some not and some can cause semi bricking. I also dont know if htc sense is part of the os or if it can be changed without altering anything else...
Im sure ill have more questions but thats in advance to all that can help.
Ps i also dont mind 1on1 msn help just send me a pm and ill give you my email address
Thank you
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Hello and welcome to the boards. XDA is a great place to ask questions and learn techniques and procedures to get the most out of your device. You just have to think and ask the right questions, or risk being targeted (it happens sometimes =p).
First, I think we need some basic information:
Do you have the Desire Z or the T-Mobile G2 variant? Since you are asking about Sense, I want to assume you have the DZ, but just want to make sure.
What is the current baseband (build version)?
Do you have root yet?
Are you S-OFF yet?
As for ROMs, feel free to browse around the Dev Forums. Here are my recommendations, I've used all of them in the past or am currently using them right now.
Stable Sense (2.1) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Sense from the Virtuous Team.
Stable Sense (3.0) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Unity from the Virtuous Team.
Stable AOSP GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous G-Lite from the Virtuous Team.
Stable MIUI GB (2.3.5) ROM: MIUI.us Official English from MIUI.us.
I have not used Cyanogen Nightlies because I'm not too keen on flashing almost every night. Those ROMs are for people who like to be on the bleeding edge IMO. The above recommendations are for stability and daily usage.
As a note, Sense ROMs take alot of resources to run and may be laggy at the start. That's the price to pay for Social Networking Integration and other convenience items (nicer widgets, etc...). AOSP variants will be quicker and use less memory, but they don't come with convenience options.

Athrun88 said:
As for ROMs, feel free to browse around the Dev Forums. Here are my recommendations, I've used all of them in the past or am currently using them right now.
Stable Sense (2.1) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Sense from the Virtuous Team.
Stable Sense (3.0) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Unity from the Virtuous Team.
Stable AOSP GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous G-Lite from the Virtuous Team.
Stable MIUI GB (2.3.5) ROM: MIUI.us Official English from MIUI.us.
As a note, Sense ROMs take alot of resources to run and may be laggy at the start. That's the price to pay for Social Networking Integration and other convenience items (nicer widgets, etc...). AOSP variants will be quicker and use less memory, but they don't come with convenience options.
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Im not rooted or s-off, my phone is on orange and is a desire Z.
My os is 2.3.3 and sense 2.1
Ive read somewhere in a sticky maybe to not flash virtuous... But im not sure if thats a pre-caution... I must admit im a sucker for the sense ui with its flashy looks and animations lol,
Ive heard of miui too... Another reason for wanting to do this is to remove default apps, i find it rather annoying to look thru about 5 map apps (and i dont really know which one is good or not...) And a bunch of other things when i only use facebook msn and occasionally skype. Other default apps ive probably never and wil never touch.
The sense 3.0 is the version i was thinking of btw not 2.3 (was thinking of gb) and yes stability and daily use is very much a priority as i am a noob and probably should start somewhere easy lol.
Thanks again for helping (searches for thx button in app xD)
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I disliked sense ever since i got my G2.
I found CM7 far superior to all of the sense roms. Though i do miss the contact linking sense does.

psychuil said:
I disliked sense ever since i got my G2.
I found CM7 far superior to all of the sense roms. Though i do miss the contact linking sense does.
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CM7? Lol, contact linking is useful as i am lazy and i can use contact linking to get hold of most people i kno easily however skype seems to dislike linking as some of my contacts have linked to ALL of my skype contacts.
I guess im confused about where to start as there seems to be a lot of conflicting statements, sense seems to be a.... UI overlay ontop of the standard android os, is sense the only one of its kind or is there others that are different from the android UI?
Again thanks a lot and sorry if this seems so nooby, im just trying to gather info and links before i run into problems and ask more nooby questions.
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I suggest starting with some of these links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
Read, read, read. And after you've done that, read some more.
I spent months before finally making the decision to crack open this phone and load CM7, pouring over everything I could find regarding not only how to do it, but the "whys" of what I am doing. Understanding the inner workings of what you are doing will make the process much much simpler once you finally do it.
I'm still fairly new to the android game. I came from the iphone scene, where if you wanted to get the full power of the phone all you had to do was click once and be done with it. The android way may be more complicated at times, but is much more fun, and rewarding. Once you become familiar with it all, you will never want to turn back.
My suggestion, as a fellow newbie:
1) Read: Understand what you are up against
2) Plan: Decide what you want to do. Do you just want root? Flash Roms? What Roms do you want? etc.
3) Gather: Get together all the information you'll need. Phone info, tutorials, etc. Write it down if necessary, but make sure it is all handy in case it is needed or you have to run IRC/forums for help.
4) Attack: Pull the trigger and do it.
5) ???
6) Profit.

Yea... I understand how much noobs annoy people however i also know that people should ask in appropriate places and get all the info needed so they dont act like a pro when they have no clue, i was started to get a good idea of things until i got all confused as there is no... Archive type forum for roms and stickies about what is good or bad yet im never sure if these are to warn every1 or jus noobs.
I greatly appreciate help though im looking forward to my experience with android, thanks on the beginner links too. If any1 else has any other recommended links or recommendations at all i would be appreciative!
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penfold1992 said:
Yea... I understand how much noobs annoy people however i also know that people should ask in appropriate places and get all the info needed so they dont act like a pro when they have no clue, i was started to get a good idea of things until i got all confused as there is no... Archive type forum for roms and stickies about what is good or bad yet im never sure if these are to warn every1 or jus noobs.
I greatly appreciate help though im looking forward to my experience with android, thanks on the beginner links too. If any1 else has any other recommended links or recommendations at all i would be appreciative!
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LOL
Well from my understanding, there are several different ways to accomplish the same thing when it comes to rooting and getting ready to flash. I followed the XDA wiki method and had no issues.
If you're confused about ROMs, there are usually a handful of stable, widely used ones. MIUI, Cyanogen, and Virtuous seems to be the most popular. I know you had mentioned wanting Sense 3.0, so Virtuous Unity might be the way to go for you.
Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have any questions. If I don't have the answer I'm sure I can dig it up somewhere.

penfold1992 said:
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Ive read somewhere in a sticky maybe to not flash virtuous... But im not sure if thats a pre-caution...
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I think you mean the sticky thread warning not to use the Visionary tool to root, as it has been known to screw up the memory partitions and possibly lead to a soft brick. This has nothing to do with the Virtuous ROMs, which are excellent, and mostly what I run on my Desire Z.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025135
Stick with the method in the Wiki to root. Its not that hard, and its considered the safest way.

As said above, read, read, and read some more. And always ask questions, we love to help out. If you like sense, I hear the virtuous sense 3.0 rom is pretty sweet, though most roms over in development are great.
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4) Attack: Pull the trigger and do it.
5) ???
6) Profit.
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Lol, love it!
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Development? Im assuming you mean in the desire Z android development... Is it worth browsing other forums that are not in the desire Z sub forum? Or would they just give confusing information about other android based phones. Oh and can i safely rely on these recommended roms to have good keyboard support for the slide out keyboard
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It could be worth it, but if you're feeling overwhelmed maybe not. I hang out in the Nook Color forums as well. Something things will carry over. As long as you can understand the similarities (what is a ROM, etc) and differences (rooting methods, etc). You'll be fine.