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Hello All
I am a newbie to Android. I have an Orange UK HTC Desire. I rooted it and installed ClockworkMod recovery, plus LollyRom (0.2 version) for Froyo and App2SD.
Now I want to revert it back to original ROM in light of upcoming update for European Desires. Please tell me:
1) Is there a way to unroot my phone back to a GENERIC ROM rather than the Orange version?
2) What is the easiest method for that? And do I need a goldcard (I rooted using Unrevoked so did not need one). Please note that my phone was not locked as such, just displayed Orange splash screen and some (horrible) Orange apps
3) If I unroot it and install a generic ROM, will it be detected as a generic Euro unrooted Desire (so that it can be updated)?
Urgent help would be appreciated
talhamid said:
Hello All
I am a newbie to Android. I have an Orange UK HTC Desire. I rooted it and installed ClockworkMod recovery, plus LollyRom (0.2 version) for Froyo and App2SD.
Now I want to revert it back to original ROM in light of upcoming update for European Desires. Please tell me:
1) Is there a way to unroot my phone back to a GENERIC ROM rather than the Orange version?
2) What is the easiest method for that? And do I need a goldcard (I rooted using Unrevoked so did not need one). Please note that my phone was not locked as such, just displayed Orange splash screen and some (horrible) Orange apps
3) If I unroot it and install a generic ROM, will it be detected as a generic Euro unrooted Desire (so that it can be updated)?
Urgent help would be appreciated
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I believe if the rumors and gossip is true that Euro will get updated by this weekend then you need to unroot to HTC_europe version in the official ROM that is available in the sticky post.
I am also pretty sure when HTC rolled the update, it will also be made available everywhere too as long as it is official ROM version. So yes, you will get the update.
Thanks very much.
I just need to know: will I need a goldcard or something to unroot? I did not require it at the time of rooting.
Secondly there seem to be two versions of the generic Euro ROM - which to choose?
Seeing as you're on orange, unless your phone is unlocked, you'll need the 1.15. The 1.21 one updates the radio as well and causes a sim lock on orange phones.
Yes you will need a gold card to flash a generic rom. Imo, the generic rom is much better than the orange one with all the demo games and stuff. If you struggle making a goldcard, google goldcardtool - makes the job easy. Just a few mouse clicks and its done. Simple
kuailan said:
I believe if the rumors and gossip is true that Euro will get updated by this weekend then you need to unroot to HTC_europe version in the official ROM that is available in the sticky post.
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I'm on mac os x, can someone link me to/ extract the rom.zip for
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
??
ps. what is the difference between
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121684.exe
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
iinga: Many thanks for the reply. Please bear with me the repetitive questions though:
1) You say I am on Orange. I WAS when I bought the phone, but I am using a different SIM now (in another country) and its working perfectly without unlocking etc. After rooting and installing LollyRom all traces of Orange have vanished from my phone. Does it still mean I have to be picky with generic ROMs?
2) I did not need a gold card to root it and install another Froyo ROM. Is it confirmed that I will need a gold card to unroot it back?
1) What network are you now on? I know that orange are very picky with radio updates. Despite rooting/debranding, updating the radio would mean that they simlock their phone. However, as you mentioned you are on another network, I believe that you may have an unlocked phone?
Also, as the froyo update requires a new radio, it may well be worth your while to unlock regardless...I originally unlocked mine (despite being on orange network) to update to froyo roms with the necessary radio update.
2) Yes, you will still need a goldcard to install a generic rom.
I had Orange UK ROM. I've unlocked it with a code. Then I made a goldcard and installed
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
Everything works fine but one thing. Red color is rather orange than red and is too saturated ie. faces of my friends are very reddish. I hope Froyo resolve this.
Just a quick point the Rom coming out this weekend is for unbranded and unlocked phones only not Orange or vodaphone or t mobile just unbranded and unlocked HTC desire.
Sent from my DeVillain using Tapatalk
I think that after unlocking and actualizing to official ROM my HTC is the same as brand new unlocked Desire. I don't suppose that OTA checks IMEI numbers and knows which phone was unlocked phone from begining.
Iinga: actually I am in a third world country having imported orange branded desire. I did update the radio before updating to a Froyo Rom . The phone is working perfectly with a local 2.5 g sim from day one and continued to work perfectly after rooting and updating . So far as I am concerned my phone IS unlocked despite initial orange branding. So I think transition to a generic HTC euro Rom will be possible . Am I correct ?
Secondly I didn't need a gold card for rooting and installing a custom Rom and it worked so it shows my phone is not network locked. So why do i need it to revert to a generic Rom ? Sorry for repetition again and thanks for the help
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Ok, i guess you are unlocked.
From my understanding, if your phone was originally flashed with an orange rom, you will need a goldcard. You only don't need a goldcard if your phone was originally unbranded.
Rooting is a different process
Ok I guess now everything is clear . Just to confirm: using the goldcard I will be able to turn my currently rooted phone into a generic euro phone right ? Now the only question is which ruu to use of the given two.
since your phone is unlocked, use 1.21, it's the last official update for unbranded phones:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe
So this will revert me to generic euro? What about those ruus labeled euro or something like that ?
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
Use that one as you're unlocked. And yes it will revert you to official stock rom.
So what if your IMEI isn't in the 'database'?
Yes, an OTA has sim-locked the phone. Yes, I am on Orange. Yes, I went to htccode.com.
No, my IMEI is NOT in the database (it's three months old!). Will be chasing for a refund from htccode so let's see what happens.
What next? I could flash the earlier ROM again, but I want the Froyo upgrade to work. I did try to go to Orange for the unlock code but, despite being an Orange-branded phone, I bought it through Phones4U. Apparently I have to go to them for the code. Sounds suss to me, but will be popping to the shop today to ask.
SavCom
I've just been to htcunlock.com. Paid my dues, got my phone back and we're now running Froyo properly as of an hour ago.
Off to htccode.com to get my money back
I have a Desire that had the Orange rom on it, I debranded it with a goldcard to the generic 1.15 rom, then i did the OTA update to 1.21.405 which also updated the Hboot to 0.8 and the updated radio and simlocked the phone so I bought an unlock code and all was good.
Next I rooted the phone using the modaco r6 rooted 1.15 rom, used a few rooted roms then decided I would unroot to get the official froyo update. To do this I used the 1.21.405 zip from shipped roms, put it on the sd card (gold card) named as PB99IMG, booted to recovery and selected fastboot, this is the only way to get back if you have the 0.8 hboot. That took me back to generic unrooted so yesterday I was prompted to install the 2.2 update. I didn't install it as the new hboot sounds like a nightmare. Instead I rooted again using unrevoked 3 and installed a rooted version of the official 2.2 rom, I didn't use a goldcard for this.
Hope this helps.
bakedecake said:
I have a Desire that had the Orange rom on it, I debranded it with a goldcard to the generic 1.15 rom, then i did the OTA update to 1.21.405 which also updated the Hboot to 0.8 and the updated radio and simlocked the phone so I bought an unlock code and all was good.
Next I rooted the phone using the modaco r6 rooted 1.15 rom, used a few rooted roms then decided I would unroot to get the official froyo update. To do this I used the 1.21.405 zip from shipped roms, put it on the sd card (gold card) named as PB99IMG, booted to recovery and selected fastboot, this is the only way to get back if you have the 0.8 hboot. That took me back to generic unrooted so yesterday I was prompted to install the 2.2 update. I didn't install it as the new hboot sounds like a nightmare. Instead I rooted again using unrevoked 3 and installed a rooted version of the official 2.2 rom, I didn't use a goldcard for this.
Hope this helps.
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I have a debranded orange phone, used a goldcard to debrand to a generic 1.21 ROM, since then I have upgraded to the new froyo 2.2 official and ever since my phone is on a continuous loop of restarting all the time every 2mins, no SD card, No WIFI and no GSM calls etc.
I've tred various RUU's and updates and nothing has worked. Im thinking maybe I need an Orange RUU file, but just can't find one anywhere...
I tried using 1.21.405 zip, renamed to PB99IMG then went through recovery mode and fastboot, but when fast boot was selected nothing happened just another menu with - reset, bootloader, clear data etc nothing to say install anything?
Ive been reading that there has been an update for the dhd, how do i get this update?
My dhd was an upgrade on orangeUK (branded), is it for unbranded only or do i have to wait or something?
Ive tried the software update in settings but it says im upto date already and ive had no notifications.
regards Jody
Hi and welcome,
If you check your Android version, Settings > About > Android Version - 2.2 or 2.2.1
Your DHD may have come preloaded with the update, I thought that the OTA was for every DHD, I could be wrong!
it says
Android version: 2.2
software version: 1.40.61.2
You don't have the update. If you manually change the date on your DHD to a month or so ahead, then check for updates.
This worked for me on my old HTC Hero when T-Mobile were staggering updates to prevent network overload.
it's a branded phone, so you have to wait until your provider releases the update. normal htc strategy
Thanks for the replies guys
Is the debranding process something an average person could cope with?
Im used to flashing my old omnia on symbian but am new to android so a little green....excuse the pun
I would describe myself as the average person, and I got it to work. It can get technical at times, but as long as you follow the guides to the letter you'd be fine.
Thanks, I'll search for a debranding tutorial I think, any recommendations/advise/cautionary notes?
Give me a minute and I'll pull up some guides.
thankyou your very kind
The process to debrand your DHD is quite lengthy but worth it.
If you install the latest Stock HTC RUU then everything we do here, except Radio S-OFF, will be undone and revert to stock.
1). Root your DHD using Visionary+ --> Found Here
- You have to enable non-Market apps. Settings > Applications > Tick "Unknown Sources"
- Copy Visionary+ to your SD Card and install using a File Manager. I use Linda. Its on the Market & free.
- Using Visionary, Click TempRoot, then Attempt PermRoot.
2). Switch off DHD security (S-OFF)
- Follow This Guide to the letter. Ensure HTC Sync is installed, as you need the correct drivers.
- You performed the first two steps already.
3). Switch off Radio Security, SuperCID, & SIM Unlock.
- Follow This Guide, also to the letter.
- SuperCID allows you to flash Unbranded HTC ROM's to Branded DHD's.
- Radio Security (Radio S-OFF), allows you to flash Radio files seperately.
If you want to backup SMS' & Calls logs get SMS Backup + from the Market, its free and backs up to your GMail.
Now your DHD should be branded still but fully unlocked, to install the latest stock & unbranded HTC update you will need to download This Official HTC RUU,(RUU = Rom Update Utility). The first post has the file.
Once downloaded, connect your DHD to your computer, ensure HTC Sync recognises your DHD. And double click the downloaded file, following all the prompts.
Your DHD will reboot, and do it's thing. Once complete your DHD will be bang upto date. Unbranded & Unlocked. All your previous settings, SMS', call logs & apps will be gone. If you have purchased any apps, they will still be able to be downloaded at no extra cost.
Everything you performed here will be undone, except step 3. But why would you want to SIM Lock your DHD again, or lock the CID back to a network?
Many thanks, will folow this to the letter and let you know how i get on
Hi
im picking up a unlocked Vodafone DHD tomorrow and i plan on debranding it to remove all the vodafone stuff
just reading over andyharney post and im a little confused
both step 2 & 3 point to the same guide
is step 3 surposed to be pointing to THIS guide?????
and when i debrand the phone i intend on keeping the rooted phone so when i choose a new RUU should i just not choose the most recent one ??
sorry if that doesn't make sense im a little new to the DHD
cheers
Hi, yes they are supposed to point to the same guide. I'd described each step separately so I posted the link twice.
If you wish to keep root then you can either flash an earlier unbranded RUU, or flash a Sense based custom ROM. I'm using Android Revolution HD at the moment. Its excellent.
I have this problem, I dont have the 1.7... update people are talking about. My DHD is unbranded and on Orange
andyharney said:
Hi, yes they are supposed to point to the same guide. I'd described each step separately so I posted the link twice.
If you wish to keep root then you can either flash an earlier unbranded RUU, or flash a Sense based custom ROM. I'm using Android Revolution HD at the moment. Its excellent.
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but with the One click S-OFF isnt it just a 1 button app
there is no option there to switch off SuperCID, & SIM Unlock.
or do i root with Visionary then use the One click S-OFF app
then just repeat the process again ???
sorry for the dumb questions
could i just use this THIS app instead as it does radio s-off super-CID and simunlock in one click
then just flash a unbranded RUU
i pickup my phone 2night cant wait
If your device is branded you may also need to create a gold card to get it to accept unbranded firmware.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
was chatting with jkoljo the dev of the tool HERE
and he said you can just follow the steps there and your ready to go
then you just need to choose a debranded RUU and flash it
then just follow the s-on steps if you ever need to return the phone for warranty purposes
from my understanding the super-CIDD option in the software allows you to flash any firmware you want
i picked up my new phone a few hrs ago
all the bloatware vodafone put on the phone slow it up soo much
the stupid vodafone bootup screen adds another 4-5 seconds to boot up time
so i got home and debranded the phone
only took 15min
every thing is running great
i just used jkoljo 1 click tool i posted above and then flashed RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed
phone is fully debadged and rooted
hello,
i bought HTC Desire A8181 (from carphonewarehouse, UK), it came with 2.1-update 1, now it is 2.2 (2.29.405.5). i want to play with custom ROM. the following questions came to my mind. if I want to go back to untouched ROM? [i have not flashed my fone with custom ROM yet, but I want to. I want to understand the options. its a precautionary step I am taking]
1. how do I identify the RUU number for HTC A8181?
2. what is signed RUU?
3. if rooted with unrevoked3 but not flashed custom ROM can i receive HTC OTA updates?
5. what really changes when i root with unrevoked3?
sorry if my quarries sounds stupid, i am new to android, and learning the way of android.
tanx a lot
RUU = ROM Upgrade Utility
You match it to the version on your phone (2.29.405.5) - simple!!
Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbb7m2b4t5jejhm
Or here:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Keep it safe
Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up
mir.nazu said:
hello,
i bought HTC Desire A8181 (from carphonewarehouse, UK), it came with 2.1-update 1, now it is 2.2 (2.29.405.5). i want to play with custom ROM. the following questions came to my mind. if I want to go back to untouched ROM? [i have not flashed my fone with custom ROM yet, but I want to. I want to understand the options. its a precautionary step I am taking]
1. how do I identify the RUU number for HTC A8181?
2. what is signed RUU?
3. if rooted with unrevoked3 but not flashed custom ROM can i receive HTC OTA updates?
5. what really changes when i root with unrevoked3?
sorry if my quarries sounds stupid, i am new to android, and learning the way of android.
tanx a lot
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1) An RUU doesn't have a 'number' I am aware of, generally they are region or network provider specific. So being in England I would use the stock O2, Vodafone, Orange etc, RUU, or use any non-specific WWE (World Wide English) RUU.
2) A signed RUU is one that hasn't been modified and will run on any stock phone, the phone will only let you install a non modified RUU by default, I believe. (My definition maybe a little off here)
3) If you have changed nothing on the phone from stock, you can still recieve OTA updates, yes. Installing a custom ROM will stop you being able to use the OTA update feature.
5, lol) And to quote binary visions from AndroidForums
Rooting it doesn't fundamentally change the phone (it only provides the ability to fundamentally change the phone)
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Essentially it's just an app in the app drawer than enables you to have administrative control over your phone. If you never use a program that requires 'root' access as it's known, It'll do nothing. If a program requires 'root' access, it'll just give you the ability to run it. Kinda like a school that locks the Control Panel on Windows from the school kids, stopping them from changing screen resolution and messing about with the PC.
EddyOS said:
RUU = ROM Upgrade Utility
You match it to the version on your phone (2.29.405.5) - simple!!
Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbb7m2b4t5jejhm
Or here:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Keep it safe
Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up
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Eddy, is this ruu rootable ? what hboot does it give you, please ? can it be s-offed with alpharev 1.8 ?
1. Yes
2. HBOOT 0.93
3. Yes
re
thanks EddyOS and Kalavere.
I m feeling a bit confidant now.
but......................................
what is the meaning
[Kalavere] "If you have changed nothing on the phone from stock, you can still recieve OTA updates" (no custom rom)
and
[EddyOS] "Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up"
another stupid question - if i install any custom rom will it change IMEI no?
if i install RUU after, will it change IMEI no. (will any device specific number change)?
tanxa lot
IMEI can't be changed as it's hardcoded onto the phone
Once rooted it's not recommended to accept an OTA update, it'll remove root but not be 100% unrooted and cause more issues than it's worth so don't do it
Hi,
I recently received my DHD branded to '3' and all i wanted to do was revet to the official htc unbranded version.
After reading up on the subject i created a gold card and downgraded to 1.31.405.6 which seeems to have done the trick with regard to unbranding.
The question i have is do i need to go through all the other steps i keep reading about (s-off, radio-off etc.) if i just want the phone to stay unbranded, or can i now carry on using the phone as normal?
If i am able to carry on, am i ok to upgrade to the latest htc unbranded version (via OTA or through htc sync) or will that cause me problems?
Thanks
If you followed the guide, you are currently using 1.32.405.6. The 1.31.405.6 is just to fool the device
You can use it normally, no problem. You can change the CID to HTC__001 (unbranded) using Radio S-OFF Tool, but you do not have to do Radio S-OFF if you do not want to. Just use the Stock CID option. You only need Visionary temproot. CID = carrier ID. Radio Tool can also Sim Unlock your device if it is locked.
Ok So i need to install visionary and do the temp root (i take it i don't need to permaroot after this?)
Then open easy radio tool and change the CID to htc_001.
After this is done is my phone in a completely unbranded state (as if i has bought it that way)? If so am i safe to update the phone via official htc methods?
Also what would i have to do in order to restore the phone to branded (in the event i needed to send it back)? Has the gold card/downgrade prcedure i followed made a back up of the branded software?
Sorry for all the questions, it's just i want to be clear before i carry it all out!
You do not need to permroot. After you set CID to HTC_001, you can use WWE HTC RUUs normally, but you cannot receive OTAs due to stupid "dual" CID in branded phones.
When you want to return to branded, just get stock RUU from XDA, change your CID to stock (you can find it [stock] out via terminal emulator, type "getprop ro.cid") and run the RUU. Downgrade method does not back up your stock ROM, it is unfortunately not possible to make a backup at that point.
Ok i have used visionary to temproot and the used easy radio tool's stock cid option to change it to HTC_001.
How do i go about updating to the latest htc unbranded firmware now? i assumed i could go through the phone now it is unbranded but it came back saying the phone was up to date with 1.32.405.6 on it! Also you have stated below i am unable to update in this way.
All is i want is the latest official firmware and the ability to easily update when any future releases come out
Thanks for your help so far - really appreciated!
There is no newer ROM available, HTC pulled the update due to bugs and problems.
You can however use 1.72.405.3 RUU to update, get that from the dev subforum.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
is 1.72.405.3 the version you said was pulled by htc?
I want to change from 1.32.707.5 to 1.32.405.6 since I couldn't get some needed apps like Google Maps 5.1 from market due to the region my phone came from Asia, can I just
temproot to achieve this or it requires permroot using visionary to do this task
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
baldyj said:
is 1.72.405.3 the version you said was pulled by htc?
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Yes, it was out there for a couple of weeks maybe, but then it just disappeared.
Hello XDA community,
I have the following problem. I bought an unbranded HTC Desire HD but when the Gingerbread update was released and I did not receive it and got curious what was going on.
Using CID Getter, I found out that the CID of my phone is T-MOB101 whereas it should be HTC_001 on an unbranded phone. The software information on my phone is as follows:
Android: 2.2.1
Software number: 1.72.405.3
Using the search function in this forum, I found out that the T-MOB101 CID only exists with the software number 1.32. As far as I know this means that the phone I bought was a branded phone which was overwritten with another stock rom with the software version 1.72. That means I can wait until kingdom comes regarding the Gingerbread update.
I'd really like to update to Gingerbread and fix my phone in this respect. Having conducted some research, I found out that (1) changing the CID requires to downgrade to 1.32 because I'd need to root the phone and that is not possible with 1.72. If I wanted to back up my phone, e.g. with Titanium Backup, (2) I'd need to root it as well and, thus, downgrade to 1.32. Also, if I wanted to backup my current ROM with ROM Manager, I'd need the required privilidges and root and, therefore before, downgrade the phone.
If I have to go through this trouble, I think, I could install a custom rom as well (e.g. Virtuous Unity as I'd like to have Sense 3.0). I've found out that I always have to downgrade no matter which option I choose because I need to be able to root the phone and, apparently, that's not possible with 1.72. - Is all of the above concluded correctly?
In fact, I'd just like to install a custom rom with sense 3.0 now and be able to flash back to the stock rom, just in case I'd ever need to meet the requirements for warranty, and backup the files I need to backup (except for data which I can synchronize from the Google server, of course).
Does anyone have an optimal procedure of solution at hand? - I'd be very grateful. - Thank you very much in advance.
Cheers,
B-Ball
ok...if you say you're phone is branded you need to create a goldcard first to downgrade and i believe it already exists a thread for downgrading...just do a search
Well, I am not sure if you can still call my phone a "branded" one due to the above facts. I assume it was branded and then an unbranded stock rom with the software version 1.72 was installed but the CID was not changed.
However, do you think there is a way for me to be able to install a custom rom with sense 3.0 and be able to flash back to a strock rom at a later point if I have to downgrade first in order to get root rights?
Yes you will have to downgrade first to be able to get root rights and change the CID.
To get back to stock you have to use a RUU. These are official HTC utilities that wipe out all the changes (just about) that you made to your phone and make it stock. There is a thread somewhere for these. I think in Development.
Ev1dence said:
Well, I am not sure if you can still call my phone a "branded" one due to the above facts. I assume it was branded and then an unbranded stock rom with the software version 1.72 was installed but the CID was not changed.
However, do you think there is a way for me to be able to install a custom rom with sense 3.0 and be able to flash back to a strock rom at a later point if I have to downgrade first in order to get root rights?
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You need the official RUU to go back to stock and if you want to change the CID you still need to root your device