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Mugen Extended Batteries! Woopie!

Hey everyone! I asked Mugen if they're going to make any extended batteries for the SGS2! Guess what?:
Look at my attachment They said yes!
I've been a big supporter of Mugen, they've made some WONDERFUL batteries for my older devices (blackberries mostly), and I certainly hope to get an OEM sized (20% more powerful) mugen battery in my device.
Will you guys?

zkyevolved said:
Hey everyone! I asked Mugen if they're going to make any extended batteries for the SGS2! Guess what?:
Look at my attachment They said yes!
I've been a big supporter of Mugen, they've made some WONDERFUL batteries for my older devices (blackberries mostly), and I certainly hope to get an OEM sized (20% more powerful) mugen battery in my device.
Will you guys?
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Had one of their batteries on my previous phone.
3400mAh... though it was quite bulky. What id really like if they would develop a battery which is wider above the battery compartment.

rikc said:
Had one of their batteries on my previous phone.
3400mAh... though it was quite bulky. What id really like if they would develop a battery which is wider above the battery compartment.
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Samsung makes that, as well: http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/sho...ective-case-extended-battery-power-pack-combo
Which I might get as well. It all depends. I'm waiting this week to get mine SGS2, most people say it's OK. While others moan about its horrible battery life. So I'm not sure. I'll test it out and see. Regardless, I will get the mugen one that fits OEM. And if it's too little as well, maybe the case. All I know, is that I'm already in love with the SGS2

If they would be able to make 2500mAh batteries with the same thickness as the original, I would be happy

CandyAndy said:
If they would be able to make 2500mAh batteries with the same thickness as the original, I would be happy
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Well, they can't do that, maybe 1850, 1900 mAh tops.
What I was thinking off was a battery which is a cover at the same time. A bit like the batteries on the nokia 6210 and 6310i of long ago. You could get those from Nokia in the 'small', normal, and 'large' variants.
The SGS2 and battery construction allows for this. I.E. a battery that 'snaps' on and is the same height as the thicker part of the telephone on the bottom. Such a battery if constructed properly should easily be able to hold +/- 4000mAh while adding little to the overal phone thickness.

anything over 30% more power as the same original size i think its worth change anything under that change my vote to from YES to NOOOOOOO WAY.

rikc said:
Well, they can't do that, maybe 1850, 1900 mAh tops.
What I was thinking off was a battery which is a cover at the same time. A bit like the batteries on the nokia 6210 and 6310i of long ago. You could get those from Nokia in the 'small', normal, and 'large' variants.
The SGS2 and battery construction allows for this. I.E. a battery that 'snaps' on and is the same height as the thicker part of the telephone on the bottom. Such a battery if constructed properly should easily be able to hold +/- 4000mAh while adding little to the overal phone thickness.
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Easily 4,000? I don't think so. You're talking about the actual battery + a few more mm for the top. Now, the rest of the body will be the same thickness of the same cover, right? Then that'll make it impossible to construct any usable MAH into that! So we'll get around 2,000 mah. Which by my standards is just frikken fantastic! I'd buy that in a second

I would highly recommend all of you to take a look at this page:
http://batteryboss.org/
The findings are pretty clear; 3rd party batteries _never_ hold up to their supposed mAh-rating.
If there was a way to make a battery of the same size larger capacity why wouldn't Samsung have done it? Battery capacity is a _huge_ selling point for mobiles, Samsung has truckloads of money and huge departements doing R&D. The same can also be said for all the other big manufacturers.
But lo and behold, time and time again some rather small battery making companies release 3rd party batteries that offers upto 30% increase in capacity at the same size as the OEM batteries, it's just amazing!
One thing is oversized batteries giving you some more juice for your phone (not exactly what it says on the box there either...), but never take a 3rd party's word for it if they say they can cram more capacity into a same-size battery than the original. More often than not they have lower capacity than the OEM batteries despite being rated much higher.

Those are awesome news!
I hope they release it soon!
My experience with the 3200mAh extended battery for SGS was excellent!
I wish they released a smaller one of about 2500mAh of capacity for SGS II, that would be astonishing!
Either way I am looking forward!

SBS_ said:
The findings are pretty clear; 3rd party batteries _never_ hold up to their supposed mAh-rating.
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You obviously never bought or used a geninue Mugen brand battery before then. They're probably the only company that doesn't make ridiculous claims about battery life.
And just because the manufacturer doesn't squeeze more power into their batteries doesn't necessarily mean it can't be done. They do have cost considerations and a profit margin to think about after all.
EDIT: I expect Mugen's OEM size battery to probably be around 1750-1800mah, or about 10% more capacity than the Samsung one.

SBS_ said:
I would highly recommend all of you to take a look at this page:
http://batteryboss.org/
The findings are pretty clear; 3rd party batteries _never_ hold up to their supposed mAh-rating.
If there was a way to make a battery of the same size larger capacity why wouldn't Samsung have done it? Battery capacity is a _huge_ selling point for mobiles, Samsung has truckloads of money and huge departements doing R&D. The same can also be said for all the other big manufacturers.
But lo and behold, time and time again some rather small battery making companies release 3rd party batteries that offers upto 30% increase in capacity at the same size as the OEM batteries, it's just amazing!
One thing is oversized batteries giving you some more juice for your phone (not exactly what it says on the box there either...), but never take a 3rd party's word for it if they say they can cram more capacity into a same-size battery than the original. More often than not they have lower capacity than the OEM batteries despite being rated much higher.
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Just to clarify, it's not always OEM size. It could be a tiny bit larger, but still fits in the OEM slot. That has been the case with all my blackberry batteries. Why my trusty OEM batteries fit comfortably, the mugens still fit well, but are a little bit tighter. So that DOES justify an increase in mAh.
I have also tried non-mugen / seidio and OEM batteries, and those are ALWAYS crap! Capacity usually drops after 2 weeks or even less sometimes. They're horrible. But mugen has always made great batteries (at least in my case) and I would highly recommend them to anyone Seidio ... meh... Not so much! Because they're REALLY over priced haha.

aussiebum said:
You obviously never bought or used a geninue Mugen brand battery before then. They're probably the only company that doesn't make ridiculous claims about battery life.
And just because the manufacturer doesn't squeeze more power into their batteries doesn't necessarily mean it can't be done. They do have cost considerations and a profit margin to think about after all.
EDIT: I expect Mugen's OEM size battery to probably be around 1750-1800mah, or about 10% more capacity than the Samsung one.
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You quoted one sentence and didn't bother to look at the link I posted?
Let me paste it here then (first mAh rating is what they claim, 2nd is actual mAh rating):
TP2 Mugen 1800mAh 1414mAh 79%
TP2 Mugen, exchanged 1800mAh 1256mAh 70%
Hero, Mugen, oversized 3200mAh 2396mAh 75%
And to add some OEM batteries:
TP2 OEM standard issue 1500mAh 1414mAh 94%
Nexus One, OEM 1400mAh 1357mAh 97%
TP2 OEM, new 2150mAh 2150mAh 100%
What tests have you done that proves Mugen's claims are true? Oh really, you didn't do any except anecdotal ones about your own use?
If people want to spend money on batteries with supposed higher capacity, good for them. But us rational people at least won't have to

I had a bad experience with a mugen battery. Bought it, charged it, used it for one time and it crapped out on the second charge. Dead.
Called and emailed for support and they wanted me to send it back, plus tracking, I wasn't going to pay more.
Basically I threw it out. My loss. But I would never by a battery from them again. It looks like cheap stuff of ebay anyways.
Maybe you'll have better luck though.

SBS_ said:
You quoted one sentence and didn't bother to look at the link I posted?
Let me paste it here then (first mAh rating is what they claim, 2nd is actual mAh rating):
TP2 Mugen 1800mAh 1414mAh 79%
TP2 Mugen, exchanged 1800mAh 1256mAh 70%
Hero, Mugen, oversized 3200mAh 2396mAh 75%
And to add some OEM batteries:
TP2 OEM standard issue 1500mAh 1414mAh 94%
Nexus One, OEM 1400mAh 1357mAh 97%
TP2 OEM, new 2150mAh 2150mAh 100%
What tests have you done that proves Mugen's claims are true? Oh really, you didn't do any except anecdotal ones about your own use?
If people want to spend money on batteries with supposed higher capacity, good for them. But us rational people at least won't have to
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True, I was feeling a bit lazy yesterday
Interesting link. Yes, my last Mugen experience was anecdotal (Xperia X1), but if my extended battery had really only lasted ~70% of claimed capacity I would've noticed (plus there would be more people complaining in the forums).
Guess they need to tighten their QC then.

Latest infos:
Dear Thomas,
Thank you for your email!
Yes, we will have XL and SL size for this battery very soon.
It will be around 1700mAh for SL and about 3000+ mah for XL.
We will announce this on our social networks and on our site!

goofy584 said:
Latest infos:
Dear Thomas,
Thank you for your email!
Yes, we will have XL and SL size for this battery very soon.
It will be around 1700mAh for SL and about 3000+ mah for XL.
We will announce this on our social networks and on our site!
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was looking forward to a plausible 1800mAh standard size battery from mugen... 1700mAh is barely any jump and in all seriousness would have the same or even lesser battery life than the original one.

goofy584 said:
Latest infos:
Dear Thomas,
Thank you for your email!
Yes, we will have XL and SL size for this battery very soon.
It will be around 1700mAh for SL and about 3000+ mah for XL.
We will announce this on our social networks and on our site!
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Wow, 1700 from 1650? That's nothing. That's literally minutes (10 maybe?) of the screen being on! I would totally skip on that one.
Samsung also makes its own extended battery case, which might also interest me... We'll see

High Capacity Battery 3030 mAh (same dimensions as original

Hi Guys,
has anyone experience with this neat piece?
Looks very good, price is fair, too and you don´t need a new back cover
ebay.com/itm/120837268925/
Thanks from Hamburg,
bud.de
If copy-paste doesn´t work for you, add the www in front of ebay.com.
Sry, I can´t hyperlink. Not enough posts, yet.

bud.de said:
Hi Guys,
has anyone experience with this neat piece?
Looks very good, price is fair, too and you don´t need a new back cover
ebay.com/itm/120837268925/
Thanks from Hamburg,
bud.de
If copy-paste doesn´t work for you, add the www in front of ebay.com.
Sry, I can´t hyperlink. Not enough posts, yet.
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Fake, No way its 3030mah.

Thor said:
Fake, No way its 3030mah.
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That is why I am asking. But have you tried and/or had any experience with a similar battery of this brand/seller?

Ok. Just to be clear. I have found a lot of these threads in the past and I always say the same thing. If Samsung could have pushed in another 500 mah into the battery they would have done it themselves. It's silly for them to include a smaller battery capacity into larger than normal battery size. It's silly.
I would stay away from cheap batteries claiming much higher mah capacities in batteries.
Stick with seidio and mugen. They're really good battery makers. They may be more expensive but I think it'll make up for it with time. Most Chinese batteries begin to loose charge after a few discharges.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note.

@zkyevolved
I understand what you are saying and agree with you partly.
I am following the xda-dev since the early day of windows mobile 6.
In the past there have been batterys (for example for the htc tytn II)
with the same dimensions and a higher capacity.
Even though I am sceptical, too (especially because of the price).

Generally nowadays companies like Samsung with there top end smartphones will go for the highest possible capacity.
While it's fully possible to get an increased capacity battery with the same dimensions, They will not last that way for long and will loose alot of there capacity with every charge.
Simply put, Unless it's bigger, It's not nearly as stable and reliable as an OEM battery because if it was possible that way, It would have been included in the device.
The battery in the galaxy note is simply amazing already, Obviously we geeks want longer last juice, But for now, Adding a bigger cover or getting a second battery is the only piratical way.
Power consumption is probably the most researched aspect of today's smartphones, It shouldn't be two many years before we see week long batteries in are devices that charge quicker and quicker.
At least we hope.

zkyevolved said:
Ok. Just to be clear. I have found a lot of these threads in the past and I always say the same thing. If Samsung could have pushed in another 500 mah into the battery they would have done it themselves. It's silly for them to include a smaller battery capacity into larger than normal battery size. It's silly.
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Exactly, thats why its ridiculous to think that some small chinese company would have the manufacturing process as advanced (or more) as samsung. I am sure that no 3rd party battery would reach the capacity of samsung battery of the same size. It really is simple logic. Its all scam. Most of these batteries will barely reach 2000 mah.
And the biggest scam is mugen with super expensive batteries which have 75 percent or less of the advertised capacity.
If you want a new battery, buy samsung battery.

I've also have bad experience with the cheap Chinese batteries - the most annoying thing is the non linear power drop (e.g it goes from 45% to 20% in a second)

[Q] Regarding 3500mAh battery!

Hey guys I just saw a 3500mAh battery for SGS2 on ebay. Is it safe to use such battery? I mean it won't harm the phone, will it? :O

Probably won't harm the phone, no.
I bought a 3500mAh obscurely branded Chinese battery in mid-December. Tried it out for almost two weeks, a bunch of charge/discharge cycles & estimated its real capacity was around 1900mAh. It also used to heat up a lot on recharge (mid-high 40's Celsius, which isn't normal when the phone isn't being used whilst charging).
I took it back, got a refund & bought an original Samsung 2000mAh battery. Hasn't missed a beat, is obviously close to its advertised capacity given I get around 20% more use out of a charge than I do with a 1600mAh battery.
Obviously your mileage may vary if you buy one of these (you might have a better experience than I did), just thought I'd let you know about my experience.

MistahBungle said:
Probably won't harm the phone, no.
I bought a 3500mAh obscurely branded Chinese battery in mid-December. Tried it out for almost two weeks, a bunch of charge/discharge cycles & estimated its real capacity was around 1900mAh. It also used to heat up a lot on recharge (mid-high 40's Celsius, which isn't normal when the phone isn't being used whilst charging).
I took it back, got a refund & bought an original Samsung 2000mAh battery. Hasn't missed a beat, is obviously close to its advertised capacity given I get around 20% more use out of a charge than I do with a 1600mAh battery.
Obviously your mileage may vary if you buy one of these (you might have a better experience than I did), just thought I'd let you know about my experience.
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Thank you very much!

chinmayanaokar said:
Hey guys I just saw a 3500mAh battery for SGS2 on ebay. Is it safe to use such battery? I mean it won't harm the phone, will it? :O
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Well i heard that their batteries exploded in their phones......so be careful.....better pay for a better one instead of having a chance to ruin your expensive phone.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

I have one of those I got from DealExtreme and it is great. It lasts 2x longer than the original Samsung battery.
I take care not to swap them often, because I am afraid that this action might damage the original cover, eventually breaking it.

Battery Life
I am still using the 1650 mAh battery (stock) for my S2.
I am really facing some battery issues. Its charging almost all day !
Yes I am using 3G all day and WiFi HotSpot too. But use wifi at home. Thats when I get good battery life. Any better way to conserve some battery ?
Any tips might help
Thanks

Got mine a few days ago from eBay and its been fine so far. It last more than 2x the regular battery. Phone does not heat up or anything strange..
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA

well i an getting with the original battery 24H of usage.
with the 3500mah i am getting 60H of usage... so my 3500 is truly 3500mah!
the language is hebrew.
i use congnition rom 1.51 and siyah kernel.

So, where can I see a trustful review on batteries for SGS2? What is the most extended one?
It's really frustrating that my current stock battery is only enough for 2 hd video view (4-5 hours).
Also, the higher the mAh value the more battery lifetime is, right?
I would really want to buy 3500 mAh, but it costs so little.
And the official Samsung variant that offers the longest lifetime of a battery for SGS2 is this one, maybe Mugen 3500 mAh is the best choice out there?
chenrp said:
well i an getting with the original battery 24H of usage.
with the 3500mah i am getting 60H of usage... so my 3500 is truly 3500mah!
the language is hebrew.
i use congnition rom 1.51 and siyah kernel.
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What is the model name of the battery? Is it being overheated in comparison to stock one?

why should it overheat?
it is lithium ... same same

Yes, it's special lithium from China extracted under full moon and blessed by a thousand virgins
Really now, if it was possible to manufacture a battery having more than double the capacity of the stock battery while taking up the same volume, don't you think the megacorporate Samsung would buy that technology immediately in order to use it themselves ? "Too cheap to be true" is valid even here; most knock-off batteries either are fake ("9999 mAH SUPER EXTRA" sticker over the original rating), or will degrade quickly in time leaving you with a dud.
Since there are already fake electronic components...
... why not fake and cheap batteries too, certainly seems to be a high demand for them.

a. it is not the same volume! in is twice as much as the original.
b. the i9100 has a circuit that allows a slow stable charge rate so i dont think it will damage the battery.

As well as being made of inferior materials, not being subjected to the same QC, not having the fuel gauge chip present in original Samsung batteries, you pretty much get what you pay for.
My advice would be to avoid non-original batteries altogether, and given a 2000mAh original battery will cost around the same as one of these 3000mAh+ batteries with all their problems & poor life, it's a no brainer.
Stick with Samsung batteries.

fuel gauge chip?
i would like to see that chip in an any cellphone battery please.

If you're not aware of/don't know about the fuel gauge chip in original SGS2 batteries, you've probably been living under a rock since the phone was released
chenrp said:
fuel gauge chip?
i would like to see that chip in an any cellphone battery please.
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MistahBungle said:
If you're not aware of/don't know about the fuel gauge chip in original SGS2 batteries, you've probably been living under a rock since the phone was released
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well i think that you misunderstood the meaning fuel gauge.
there is no chip in the battery that is in charge of the fuel gauge.
furthermore there is no use of recalibrating the battery in out i9100 model.
all you gave me is a link you Google...
please... show me that chip! i would like to learn something new about lithium batteries..

Plz can you Possible link topic of the battery
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

chenrp said:
why should it overheat?
it is lithium ... same same
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What about the other question that you chose to ignore, regarding the battery's model that you mentioned.

thanks for the info guys,
cuz I need a battery really disparately cuz I use so much data and sync :'(
I couldn't find something really reliable feedback from viewers, and i'm trying to find something with good quality as well!
guess i have to search further!

VAXXi said:
Yes, it's special lithium from China extracted under full moon and blessed by a thousand virgins
Really now, if it was possible to manufacture a battery having more than double the capacity of the stock battery while taking up the same volume, don't you think the megacorporate Samsung would buy that technology immediately in order to use it themselves ? "Too cheap to be true" is valid even here; most knock-off batteries either are fake ("9999 mAH SUPER EXTRA" sticker over the original rating), or will degrade quickly in time leaving you with a dud.
Since there are already fake electronic components...
... why not fake and cheap batteries too, certainly seems to be a high demand for them.
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You have a point mate! Thanks

is Hyperion battery really THIS much better?

So my stock battery just wasn't cutting it as I would get at best nearly 4 hours of on screen time by using every battery saving feature I could think of, and always keeping Wi-Fi and GPS turned off. I ended up buying the Hyperion battery and this thing is s complete beast. Maxing my phone out, higher brightness, leaving GPS and Wi-Fi all on, playing games and watching streaming media, I can eclipse 4 hours of screen on time before I even get down to 60% remaining.
While this is great, it got me thinking that this battery isn't supposed to be more than double the life of the stock battery is it? While I'm certainly not complaining about the Hyperion, I would like to know if there is s better battery it there that would allow me to use the default case cover without making my phone huge and still allow for better battery life than I'm getting? I have two different stock batteries and both are exactly the same.
Are there any better ones out there that don't change the size of the phone?

theraker007 said:
So my stock battery just wasn't cutting it as I would get at best nearly 4 hours of on screen time by using every battery saving feature I could think of, and always keeping Wi-Fi and GPS turned off. I ended up buying the Hyperion battery and this thing is s complete beast. Maxing my phone out, higher brightness, leaving GPS and Wi-Fi all on, playing games and watching streaming media, I can eclipse 4 hours of screen on time before I even get down to 60% remaining.
While this is great, it got me thinking that this battery isn't supposed to be more than double the life of the stock battery is it? While I'm certainly not complaining about the Hyperion, I would like to know if there is s better battery it there that would allow me to use the default case cover without making my phone huge and still allow for better battery life than I'm getting? I have two different stock batteries and both are exactly the same.
Are there any better ones out there that don't change the size of the phone?
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no , there isnt any other way, if u want ore juice, its gotta be stored somewhere right, unless u double the size , u cant double the battery life. no shortcuts, teh ones that claim so are all fake so dont bother with those.

Its possible. Motorola did it with the RazrMaxx. that tiny phone has a 3300mah battery. I wish some company could look into how they made it that small. i mean if Motorola can do it. samsung should be able to pack at least 4500mah into a similar battery. lol
i read this and it upset me cuz motorola always seemed to be behind on everything and i just never liked anything they put out. the razr maxx doesnt appeal to me but its gay that that it is better in so many different ways.
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-motorola-droid-razr-maxx-hd-2/1003704/

shawn0223 said:
Its possible. Motorola did it with the RazrMaxx. that tiny phone has a 3300mah battery. I wish some company could look into how they made it that small. i mean if Motorola can do it. samsung should be able to pack at least 4500mah into a similar battery. lol
i read this and it upset me cuz motorola always seemed to be behind on everything and i just never liked anything they put out. the razr maxx doesnt appeal to me but its gay that that it is better in so many different ways.
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-motorola-droid-razr-maxx-hd-2/1003704/
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Pretty sure the battery size is larger than the S3 battery. I think the largest possible capacity they can fit into a original size S3 battery is around 2500mAH.

I'm not looking to match my Hyperion with a thin battery. I'm looking for a compromise. Something that'll fit with the normal back but will do better than the stock battery.

shawn0223 said:
Its possible. Motorola did it with the RazrMaxx. that tiny phone has a 3300mah battery. I wish some company could look into how they made it that small. i mean if Motorola can do it. samsung should be able to pack at least 4500mah into a similar battery. lol
i read this and it upset me cuz motorola always seemed to be behind on everything and i just never liked anything they put out. the razr maxx doesnt appeal to me but its gay that that it is better in so many different ways.
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-motorola-droid-razr-maxx-hd-2/1003704/
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The Razr Maxx battery isn't that small. It is simply longer and a bit skinnier than the GS3 battery. Samsung could have done it with a slightly different design of how the battery fits in the back of the phone.
OP: After properly calibrating my Hyperion battery, I religiously get Just over 3 days of usage. I like my Hyperion battery.

theraker007 said:
I'm not looking to match my Hyperion with a thin battery. I'm looking for a compromise. Something that'll fit with the normal back but will do better than the stock battery.
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Im going to be testing the Hyperion 2200 and Anker 2200. Ill post the updates on my battery review thread. I might test the Mugen 2300.

rlatjs17 said:
Im going to be testing the Hyperion 2200 and Anker 2200. Ill post the updates on my battery review thread. I might test the Mugen 2300.
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Let me know what you find out, ive been skeptical of getting the hyperion and anker 2200 or even the mugen 2300 cuz im not positive if just a 100-200mah increase is gonna make that much of a difference.
Mugens website shows good reviews on the 2300 but the customers dont really have any stats to back up the claims in their reviews

shawn0223 said:
Its possible. Motorola did it with the RazrMaxx. that tiny phone has a 3300mah battery. I wish some company could look into how they made it that small. i mean if Motorola can do it. samsung should be able to pack at least 4500mah into a similar battery. lol
i read this and it upset me cuz motorola always seemed to be behind on everything and i just never liked anything they put out. the razr maxx doesnt appeal to me but its gay that that it is better in so many different ways.
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-motorola-droid-razr-maxx-hd-2/1003704/
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I would rather have a faster charging method :fingers-crossed:

I to would like to know about the hyperion 2200 battery. How much more it is over the stock Samsung battery. Thanks
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3

battery technology just needs a major overhaul... they keep putting bigger displays, more processing power and still using similar battery capacity from the past 10 years or so..
read this article: We need better battery life and more storage space before 1080p displays arrive
Motorola is one of few companies that see battery capacity important.. still, they need to make them smaller and more power, making them bigger isn't the solution..

MarsVoltron said:
I would rather have a faster charging method :fingers-crossed:
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Flash a rom with Fast Charge embedded. Aokp and a few other aosp roms have this built in and it works really well. You can get a full charge in a fraction of the time it normally takes.

tft said:
battery technology just needs a major overhaul... they keep putting bigger displays, more processing power and still using similar battery capacity from the past 10 years or so..
read this article: We need better battery life and more storage space before 1080p displays arrive
Motorola is one of few companies that see battery capacity important.. still, they need to make them smaller and more power, making them bigger isn't the solution..
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Half of that article is uninformed crap. It didn't take a genius to figure out that bigger batteries are better, but the rest of what that guy wrote was nonsense.

aquemeni said:
Flash a rom with Fast Charge embedded. Aokp and a few other aosp roms have this built in and it works really well. You can get a full charge in a fraction of the time it normally takes.
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that is not what fast charge is. all fast charge is, is allowing the phone to take as many amps as possible from a PC connection. when using AC power (or good car chargers) nothing changes.
also, BTW, the faster you charge the battery, the less life it has. (as in in you will need to replace it sooner.)

Fyi, I have 2 Anker batteries. They're nothing special. They're on par with stock, just no NFC, but cheap. I rotate through all 3 batteries regularly and can never tell the difference.
Imho, this is really the best you can expect with a battery with the same physical dimensions as stock.
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has anyone tried these?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3200mAh-...Accessories&hash=item27cb7a2d91#ht_1985wt_941
3200mah in the same size?!.. too good to be true?

quasio said:
has anyone tried these?
3200mah in the same size?!.. too good to be true?
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Yes, it is too good to be true. Cheap ebay battery sellers regularly lie.

rlatjs17 said:
Im going to be testing the Hyperion 2200 and Anker 2200. Ill post the updates on my battery review thread. I might test the Mugen 2300.
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Any good news on testing the Hyperion, anker or mugen ?

A 3200mah pack can be the same size as a 2100mah..
There are a few things that come into play:
- The actual case thickness of the pack
- the cell count inside.
Internally we dont know how many cells make up a stock 2100 pack. Could be a single 3.7volt cell @ 2100mah or could be 2x 3.7volt cells @ 1100mah each(wired in parallel)... the 3200 could be one single cell.
So a 3200mah lipo verywell could fit, and perhaps it just a hair thicker but still fits..

[Q] Replacement Batteries

This will be a quick one.
My battery is starting to be a bit rubbish, so I am looking at getting a new, higher powered one.
I have found these on ebay that look ok, but I wanted to throw it out to u guys to see if any of u have bought them.....
2100mAh 100% GENUINE SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 i9300 BATTERY 2100mAH NFC FIT GALAXY S3 GT-i9300
2300mAh SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 SIII i9300 HIGH CAPACITY Li-ION SMARTPHONE BATTERY
2850mAh GOLD 2850 mah SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 i9300 Li-ION SMARTPHONE BATTERY
3800mAh 3800mAh High Capacity Battery for Samsung Galaxy S3 i9300
I don't want to go for one of those super high power, double size batteries, cos I like the fact I have a slim phone.
I've had many bricks in the past and I do not want to turn my nice slim S3 into an old Nokia size brick, lolz.

Check out this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2411923
Maybe gives you some more options.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)

I have also been wanting to replace my battery, I just wanted to ask which of the original battery is better i have seen :
cell made in Japan assembled in China
cell made in Korea assembled in Vietnam
cell made in Korea assembled in china
Made in China
Made in Korea
Im sure there are others. I would guess anything made and assembled at same plant would be best, please correct me if im wrong.

You get what you pay for, I pay for a warranty I can trust as cheap batteries are too dangerous.
There's also a specific section for accessories.

boomboomer said:
You get what you pay for, I pay for a warranty I can trust as cheap batteries are too dangerous.
There's also a specific section for accessories.
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I get that, totally, and I have been looking at batteries, not their prices, if u know what I mean.
Jut wondering if anyone has had any dealings with these batteries.
Also, I know there is a accessories sections, but this was a question, so I asked it in the Q&A section.

I have only ever used Anchor battery and found them faultless .
Their was a post in Accessories at one time .
jje

Anchor or Anker? I also use Anker, just had a problem with my set of year old ones starting to swell -they replaced them both without quibble.

JJEgan said:
I have only ever used Anchor battery and found them faultless .
Their was a post in Accessories at one time .
jje
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boomboomer said:
Anchor or Anker? I also use Anker, just had a problem with my set of year old ones starting to swell -they replaced them both without quibble.
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I looked on their site and only found a 2200mAh battery, the bigger ones are double sized with the retrofit back plate.
Stock battery is only 2100mAh, so the Anker one isn't that much better =/

If the battery fits inside the standard back plate then it is the same capacity (or even less) as the standard battery, it's physically impossible for it to be any greater. Any advert saying a higher capacity for the same size is lying, so avoid.
Main point about the Anker is having two batteries, so you charge outside the phone and always have a fully charged spare to hand.

boomboomer said:
If the battery fits inside the standard back plate then it is the same capacity (or even less) as the standard battery, it's physically impossible for it to be any greater. Any advert saying a higher capacity for the same size is lying, so avoid.
Main point about the Anker is having two batteries, so you charge outside the phone and always have a fully charged spare to hand.
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I'm not going to question ur knowledge about this, but how can u have different mAh "AA" batteries, that are all the same size in that case??
I don't want to have to carry around a second battery with me all the time, this is why I was looking at different bigger capacity batteries =/

You can buy AA batteries in many different forms, alkaline, NiCad, Li-ion etc. Each has a different power density, with Li-ion being the highest. Standard S3 batteries are already the highest density so can't be bettered, if it were that easy then Samsung would have already done it.
The only way to get more capacity is to increase the physical dimensions, don't take my word for it try Wikipedia.

boomboomer said:
You can buy AA batteries in many different forms, alkaline, NiCad, Li-ion etc. Each has a different power density, with Li-ion being the highest. Standard S3 batteries are already the highest density so can't be bettered, if it were that easy then Samsung would have already done it.
The only way to get more capacity is to increase the physical dimensions, don't take my word for it try Wikipedia.
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S4's battery isn't much bigger, but capacity is much higher.
Personally I carry two slim zerolemons charged at 40% with me all the time.

me and wife have zerolemon 2300 in our gs3's, fit under original back door and they come with 180day warranty. only downside is no NFC. But to me its the Best 20 buck investment ive made as far as accessories lol.

boomboomer said:
The only way to get more capacity is to increase the physical dimensions, don't take my word for it try Wikipedia.
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I am very sorry if I sounded rude in my last post to u, I really didn't mean to, I know nothing about batteries so thank u for the information
1slow4G said:
me and wife have zerolemon 2300 in our gs3's, fit under original back door and they come with 180day warranty. only downside is no NFC. But to me its the Best 20 buck investment ive made as far as accessories lol.
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I've found the zerolemon 2300mAh batteries on eBay, HERE and I have also done some web searches about them, they look pretty good and I haven't found any bad reviews. 200mAh bigger than stock, and tested to be that capacity too, so must be true. I'm thinking of going for these, will just have to get a US to UK plug adaptor to go with the charger, lol.

Adam3Sixty said:
I am very sorry if I sounded rude in my last post to u, I really didn't mean to, I know nothing about batteries so thank u for the information .
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? No, you weren't at all rude -I wouldn't suggest anyone accept 'internet advise' without cross checking it against something else.
The batteries you've chosen have a modest claim for capacity so are probably genuine. Only drawbacks are the limited warranty and return postage, if ever required. The desktop battery charger I have looks identical, plugs into a standard micro usb charger so you might not need an adaptor.

Has anyone ever tried the momax battery ?
http://shop.momax.net/?sp=&p=6&cat2=637&cat1=113&cat0=46&id=3901&cat1=113&cat0=46&new=&more=&lang=en

Add my vote for the ZeroLemon 2300's. I've been using one for a while and it's great.

catman51 said:
Add my vote for the ZeroLemon 2300's. I've been using one for a while and it's great.
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I've had very good experience with the ZeroLemon 2300 too.
Very good battery life with Carbon ROM.

My friend is also using the Zerolemon battery, I'm still doing fine with my stock battery.