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Hey everyone! I asked Mugen if they're going to make any extended batteries for the SGS2! Guess what?:
Look at my attachment They said yes!
I've been a big supporter of Mugen, they've made some WONDERFUL batteries for my older devices (blackberries mostly), and I certainly hope to get an OEM sized (20% more powerful) mugen battery in my device.
Will you guys?
zkyevolved said:
Hey everyone! I asked Mugen if they're going to make any extended batteries for the SGS2! Guess what?:
Look at my attachment They said yes!
I've been a big supporter of Mugen, they've made some WONDERFUL batteries for my older devices (blackberries mostly), and I certainly hope to get an OEM sized (20% more powerful) mugen battery in my device.
Will you guys?
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Had one of their batteries on my previous phone.
3400mAh... though it was quite bulky. What id really like if they would develop a battery which is wider above the battery compartment.
rikc said:
Had one of their batteries on my previous phone.
3400mAh... though it was quite bulky. What id really like if they would develop a battery which is wider above the battery compartment.
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Samsung makes that, as well: http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/sho...ective-case-extended-battery-power-pack-combo
Which I might get as well. It all depends. I'm waiting this week to get mine SGS2, most people say it's OK. While others moan about its horrible battery life. So I'm not sure. I'll test it out and see. Regardless, I will get the mugen one that fits OEM. And if it's too little as well, maybe the case. All I know, is that I'm already in love with the SGS2
If they would be able to make 2500mAh batteries with the same thickness as the original, I would be happy
CandyAndy said:
If they would be able to make 2500mAh batteries with the same thickness as the original, I would be happy
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Well, they can't do that, maybe 1850, 1900 mAh tops.
What I was thinking off was a battery which is a cover at the same time. A bit like the batteries on the nokia 6210 and 6310i of long ago. You could get those from Nokia in the 'small', normal, and 'large' variants.
The SGS2 and battery construction allows for this. I.E. a battery that 'snaps' on and is the same height as the thicker part of the telephone on the bottom. Such a battery if constructed properly should easily be able to hold +/- 4000mAh while adding little to the overal phone thickness.
anything over 30% more power as the same original size i think its worth change anything under that change my vote to from YES to NOOOOOOO WAY.
rikc said:
Well, they can't do that, maybe 1850, 1900 mAh tops.
What I was thinking off was a battery which is a cover at the same time. A bit like the batteries on the nokia 6210 and 6310i of long ago. You could get those from Nokia in the 'small', normal, and 'large' variants.
The SGS2 and battery construction allows for this. I.E. a battery that 'snaps' on and is the same height as the thicker part of the telephone on the bottom. Such a battery if constructed properly should easily be able to hold +/- 4000mAh while adding little to the overal phone thickness.
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Easily 4,000? I don't think so. You're talking about the actual battery + a few more mm for the top. Now, the rest of the body will be the same thickness of the same cover, right? Then that'll make it impossible to construct any usable MAH into that! So we'll get around 2,000 mah. Which by my standards is just frikken fantastic! I'd buy that in a second
I would highly recommend all of you to take a look at this page:
http://batteryboss.org/
The findings are pretty clear; 3rd party batteries _never_ hold up to their supposed mAh-rating.
If there was a way to make a battery of the same size larger capacity why wouldn't Samsung have done it? Battery capacity is a _huge_ selling point for mobiles, Samsung has truckloads of money and huge departements doing R&D. The same can also be said for all the other big manufacturers.
But lo and behold, time and time again some rather small battery making companies release 3rd party batteries that offers upto 30% increase in capacity at the same size as the OEM batteries, it's just amazing!
One thing is oversized batteries giving you some more juice for your phone (not exactly what it says on the box there either...), but never take a 3rd party's word for it if they say they can cram more capacity into a same-size battery than the original. More often than not they have lower capacity than the OEM batteries despite being rated much higher.
Those are awesome news!
I hope they release it soon!
My experience with the 3200mAh extended battery for SGS was excellent!
I wish they released a smaller one of about 2500mAh of capacity for SGS II, that would be astonishing!
Either way I am looking forward!
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The findings are pretty clear; 3rd party batteries _never_ hold up to their supposed mAh-rating.
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You obviously never bought or used a geninue Mugen brand battery before then. They're probably the only company that doesn't make ridiculous claims about battery life.
And just because the manufacturer doesn't squeeze more power into their batteries doesn't necessarily mean it can't be done. They do have cost considerations and a profit margin to think about after all.
EDIT: I expect Mugen's OEM size battery to probably be around 1750-1800mah, or about 10% more capacity than the Samsung one.
SBS_ said:
I would highly recommend all of you to take a look at this page:
http://batteryboss.org/
The findings are pretty clear; 3rd party batteries _never_ hold up to their supposed mAh-rating.
If there was a way to make a battery of the same size larger capacity why wouldn't Samsung have done it? Battery capacity is a _huge_ selling point for mobiles, Samsung has truckloads of money and huge departements doing R&D. The same can also be said for all the other big manufacturers.
But lo and behold, time and time again some rather small battery making companies release 3rd party batteries that offers upto 30% increase in capacity at the same size as the OEM batteries, it's just amazing!
One thing is oversized batteries giving you some more juice for your phone (not exactly what it says on the box there either...), but never take a 3rd party's word for it if they say they can cram more capacity into a same-size battery than the original. More often than not they have lower capacity than the OEM batteries despite being rated much higher.
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Just to clarify, it's not always OEM size. It could be a tiny bit larger, but still fits in the OEM slot. That has been the case with all my blackberry batteries. Why my trusty OEM batteries fit comfortably, the mugens still fit well, but are a little bit tighter. So that DOES justify an increase in mAh.
I have also tried non-mugen / seidio and OEM batteries, and those are ALWAYS crap! Capacity usually drops after 2 weeks or even less sometimes. They're horrible. But mugen has always made great batteries (at least in my case) and I would highly recommend them to anyone Seidio ... meh... Not so much! Because they're REALLY over priced haha.
aussiebum said:
You obviously never bought or used a geninue Mugen brand battery before then. They're probably the only company that doesn't make ridiculous claims about battery life.
And just because the manufacturer doesn't squeeze more power into their batteries doesn't necessarily mean it can't be done. They do have cost considerations and a profit margin to think about after all.
EDIT: I expect Mugen's OEM size battery to probably be around 1750-1800mah, or about 10% more capacity than the Samsung one.
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You quoted one sentence and didn't bother to look at the link I posted?
Let me paste it here then (first mAh rating is what they claim, 2nd is actual mAh rating):
TP2 Mugen 1800mAh 1414mAh 79%
TP2 Mugen, exchanged 1800mAh 1256mAh 70%
Hero, Mugen, oversized 3200mAh 2396mAh 75%
And to add some OEM batteries:
TP2 OEM standard issue 1500mAh 1414mAh 94%
Nexus One, OEM 1400mAh 1357mAh 97%
TP2 OEM, new 2150mAh 2150mAh 100%
What tests have you done that proves Mugen's claims are true? Oh really, you didn't do any except anecdotal ones about your own use?
If people want to spend money on batteries with supposed higher capacity, good for them. But us rational people at least won't have to
I had a bad experience with a mugen battery. Bought it, charged it, used it for one time and it crapped out on the second charge. Dead.
Called and emailed for support and they wanted me to send it back, plus tracking, I wasn't going to pay more.
Basically I threw it out. My loss. But I would never by a battery from them again. It looks like cheap stuff of ebay anyways.
Maybe you'll have better luck though.
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You quoted one sentence and didn't bother to look at the link I posted?
Let me paste it here then (first mAh rating is what they claim, 2nd is actual mAh rating):
TP2 Mugen 1800mAh 1414mAh 79%
TP2 Mugen, exchanged 1800mAh 1256mAh 70%
Hero, Mugen, oversized 3200mAh 2396mAh 75%
And to add some OEM batteries:
TP2 OEM standard issue 1500mAh 1414mAh 94%
Nexus One, OEM 1400mAh 1357mAh 97%
TP2 OEM, new 2150mAh 2150mAh 100%
What tests have you done that proves Mugen's claims are true? Oh really, you didn't do any except anecdotal ones about your own use?
If people want to spend money on batteries with supposed higher capacity, good for them. But us rational people at least won't have to
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True, I was feeling a bit lazy yesterday
Interesting link. Yes, my last Mugen experience was anecdotal (Xperia X1), but if my extended battery had really only lasted ~70% of claimed capacity I would've noticed (plus there would be more people complaining in the forums).
Guess they need to tighten their QC then.
Latest infos:
Dear Thomas,
Thank you for your email!
Yes, we will have XL and SL size for this battery very soon.
It will be around 1700mAh for SL and about 3000+ mah for XL.
We will announce this on our social networks and on our site!
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Latest infos:
Dear Thomas,
Thank you for your email!
Yes, we will have XL and SL size for this battery very soon.
It will be around 1700mAh for SL and about 3000+ mah for XL.
We will announce this on our social networks and on our site!
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was looking forward to a plausible 1800mAh standard size battery from mugen... 1700mAh is barely any jump and in all seriousness would have the same or even lesser battery life than the original one.
goofy584 said:
Latest infos:
Dear Thomas,
Thank you for your email!
Yes, we will have XL and SL size for this battery very soon.
It will be around 1700mAh for SL and about 3000+ mah for XL.
We will announce this on our social networks and on our site!
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Wow, 1700 from 1650? That's nothing. That's literally minutes (10 maybe?) of the screen being on! I would totally skip on that one.
Samsung also makes its own extended battery case, which might also interest me... We'll see
Hi,
Was wondering if anyone has tried one of these.....
Its 2430 (or 2450mah) the ebay page cant really decide, im guessing its a typo.... Its the same size as the default battery. Thats a calculated 47% increase in battery capacity...
Link here:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/110750637282?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Its the biggest battery capacity i can find without increasing the physical size of the battery and requiring a new case....
If not, i will post some of my own reviews once it comes through.
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Its 2430 (or 2450mah) the ebay page cant really decide, im guessing its a typo....
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Ya i'll bet its a typo, more like 1450mah rather than 2450mah. No cheap aftermarket battery can even match the stock battery in capacity let alone offer 50% more capcity.
im not expecting a full 2400mah out of it, more like a 2100mah....
thing people need to realize, is the stock battery is made in the same places (sometimes) as these after market batteries. The quality might be slightly off, but not substancially..... they are all made in asian countries for less than $0.20 a piece in mass production....
AMDPOWERFIST said:
im not expecting a full 2400mah out of it, more like a 2100mah....
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You'll be lucky if it even matches the stock battery, you just can't magically cram more capacity into a battery. The samsung 2000mah battery is thicker and comes with a new cover, why isn't samsung using this battery if it has more capacity and is smaller than its own 2000mah battery? If its too good to be true(on ebay) it probably is.
probably the same reason why they dont release ICS 4.0 and other things straight away that other phones have that is better than what they currently have..... coz they are slightly retarded as a company lol
not a chance that has more power than the stock battery if its the same size. Those gold wrapped batteries from ebay always get really bad reviews. Youll probably find its 1300mah
Seen one review where it was a smaller battery in a plastic frame. Battery capacity was much lower than the stock battery. If it sounds too good to be true and it is cheap, then it probably is.
AMDPOWERFIST said:
probably the same reason why they dont release ICS 4.0 and other things straight away that other phones have that is better than what they currently have..... coz they are slightly retarded as a company lol
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Pot... meet Kettle
AMDPOWERFIST said:
im not expecting a full 2400mah out of it, more like a 2100mah....
thing people need to realize, is the stock battery is made in the same places (sometimes) as these after market batteries. The quality might be slightly off, but not substancially..... they are all made in asian countries for less than $0.20 a piece in mass production....
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...are you serious? it's a proven fact that non-OEM/aftermarket batteries in general are usually worse than stock batteries. check out sites like http://batteryboss.org/ you can see testing of aftermarket brands like seidio and mugen...the actual capacity is between 55% to 85% of the advertised capacity, while OEM batteries are ~95%+.
as for what you said about samsung being a retarded company and not releasing the best hardware/software possible, you'd rather trust a random ebay seller with an UNBRANDED battery coming straight from china for $14 aus dollars, which is somehow still 47% higher in capacity, over a multinational corporation with trusted suppliers who are industry leaders in their own right? you really think samsung would willingly reduce their battery capacity in light of the huge implications it could have on the sales of their flagship phone?
as a final piece of evidence, here's a google translated website showing the testing of so called ebay '2430 mah' batteries. http://translate.google.com/transla...e/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-2-3500-mah-2430mah.html as he shows halfway down the page, the real capacity is somewhere between 1000-1250mah. terrible. you should research more before you blindly advocate for your misinformed purchases. all it does is drag other gullible members of this forum down with you.
i want to know if law of physics allows more battery capacity on the same size of the original samsung battery?
Mwinggg said:
i want to know if law of physics allows more battery capacity on the same size of the original samsung battery?
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Different material can make a big difference.
I know it's probably bull****, but i bought one of those battery and i was impressed by the time it last. I tought i would end with a smaller time than stock battery, but it lasted longer. I did not made super precise test, I don't have time for that. I must always be with latest rom / kernel so flashing a new rom or kernel a day don't let me much time to bench battery xD. My point is, that i think it last longer than original samsung battery and this, even if people are doing test that proof i'm false.
Guys you're all being very unfair.
This is obviously a Global Dynamics battery, I believe the model is 'Fringe'. It actually draws it's extra power from a trans dimensional link and was invented by Dr William 'Pointy' Bell.
I'd suggest everyone buy one.
The next version includes the facility to phone yourself after the final race of the day and tell yourself the result before it happened.
poofish said:
...are you serious? it's a proven fact that non-OEM/aftermarket batteries in general are usually worse than stock batteries. check out sites like http://batteryboss.org/ you can see testing of aftermarket brands like seidio and mugen...the actual capacity is between 55% to 85% of the advertised capacity, while OEM batteries are ~95%+.
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So this means the advertised battery should have a capacity between 1336.5 and 2065.5. So one could be lucky and really get a battery with more capacity than the stock one.
Sure, I agree with you that such cheap battery can't hold that much juice. However for a spare battery it is fine if you look at capacity/price.
Hi,
Was wondering if anyone has tried one of these.....
Its 2430 (or 2450mah) the ebay page cant really decide, im guessing its a typo.... Its the same size as the default battery. Thats a calculated 47% increase in battery capacity...
I just read a comment on Samsung Mobile Singapore that warn peoples not to buy it because it's a typo
sry guys, my native language isnt english, what does typo mean?
MICa.fighter said:
sry guys, my native language isnt english, what does typo mean?
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Typo is an abbreviation of 'Typographic Error' and the phrase originates from when newspapers were printed using printing plates as against computers that are used today.
An example of a typo would be writing h3llo rather then hello or 1243 rather then 1234, it's usually a mistyped character instead of a spelling mistake.
Hope this clears it up for you.
Schindler33 said:
So this means the advertised battery should have a capacity between 1336.5 and 2065.5. So one could be lucky and really get a battery with more capacity than the stock one.
Sure, I agree with you that such cheap battery can't hold that much juice. However for a spare battery it is fine if you look at capacity/price.
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True, but I also did mention that another site tested the capacity specifically for the ebay '2430mah' batteries, and came out with a total capacity of 1000-1250mah. Even if we take it as 1250mah, that's still a 25% decrease from the stock capacity of 1680mah, which is abysmal. You could argue that it's fine as a spare battery, but at that price and capacity you might as well just buy another stock OEM battery, and save yourself the frustration. However, I would definitely argue against using it as your primary battery, for obvious reasons.
Any GOOD suggestions to a STOCK size battery with BIG capacity, that WORKS? Or battery similar or better than Samsung's 2000mah battery?
I use mostly clear TPU cases. Thinking of cutting hole in battery cover for a bigger battery too.
I wish battery covers like those in the 2000mah extended battery kit could be bought in colors, cheap. And then get some nice battery.
Sadly all those mah ratings can't be trusted
Flashing your galaxy, press Y to continue..
Mwinggg said:
i want to know if law of physics allows more battery capacity on the same size of the original samsung battery?
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There is the Anker battery with 1900 mah, but thats the biggest battery I know, that doesn't increases the physical size of the phone.
Aerobotix said:
Any GOOD suggestions to a STOCK size battery with BIG capacity, that WORKS? Or battery similar or better than Samsung's 2000mah battery?
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No such thing, its either the stock samsung battery or the larger 2000mah samsung battery, everything else is going to have lower capacity no matter what the label says. Check out http://batteryboss.org/ and find an aftermarket battery that has similar capacity as an oem one... there simply isnt one.
maaximal said:
There is the Anker battery with 1900 mah, but thats the biggest battery I know, that doesn't increases the physical size of the phone.
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Has anyone actually tested the capacity?
Hey guys I just saw a 3500mAh battery for SGS2 on ebay. Is it safe to use such battery? I mean it won't harm the phone, will it? :O
Probably won't harm the phone, no.
I bought a 3500mAh obscurely branded Chinese battery in mid-December. Tried it out for almost two weeks, a bunch of charge/discharge cycles & estimated its real capacity was around 1900mAh. It also used to heat up a lot on recharge (mid-high 40's Celsius, which isn't normal when the phone isn't being used whilst charging).
I took it back, got a refund & bought an original Samsung 2000mAh battery. Hasn't missed a beat, is obviously close to its advertised capacity given I get around 20% more use out of a charge than I do with a 1600mAh battery.
Obviously your mileage may vary if you buy one of these (you might have a better experience than I did), just thought I'd let you know about my experience.
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Probably won't harm the phone, no.
I bought a 3500mAh obscurely branded Chinese battery in mid-December. Tried it out for almost two weeks, a bunch of charge/discharge cycles & estimated its real capacity was around 1900mAh. It also used to heat up a lot on recharge (mid-high 40's Celsius, which isn't normal when the phone isn't being used whilst charging).
I took it back, got a refund & bought an original Samsung 2000mAh battery. Hasn't missed a beat, is obviously close to its advertised capacity given I get around 20% more use out of a charge than I do with a 1600mAh battery.
Obviously your mileage may vary if you buy one of these (you might have a better experience than I did), just thought I'd let you know about my experience.
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Thank you very much!
chinmayanaokar said:
Hey guys I just saw a 3500mAh battery for SGS2 on ebay. Is it safe to use such battery? I mean it won't harm the phone, will it? :O
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Well i heard that their batteries exploded in their phones......so be careful.....better pay for a better one instead of having a chance to ruin your expensive phone.
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I have one of those I got from DealExtreme and it is great. It lasts 2x longer than the original Samsung battery.
I take care not to swap them often, because I am afraid that this action might damage the original cover, eventually breaking it.
Battery Life
I am still using the 1650 mAh battery (stock) for my S2.
I am really facing some battery issues. Its charging almost all day !
Yes I am using 3G all day and WiFi HotSpot too. But use wifi at home. Thats when I get good battery life. Any better way to conserve some battery ?
Any tips might help
Thanks
Got mine a few days ago from eBay and its been fine so far. It last more than 2x the regular battery. Phone does not heat up or anything strange..
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well i an getting with the original battery 24H of usage.
with the 3500mah i am getting 60H of usage... so my 3500 is truly 3500mah!
the language is hebrew.
i use congnition rom 1.51 and siyah kernel.
So, where can I see a trustful review on batteries for SGS2? What is the most extended one?
It's really frustrating that my current stock battery is only enough for 2 hd video view (4-5 hours).
Also, the higher the mAh value the more battery lifetime is, right?
I would really want to buy 3500 mAh, but it costs so little.
And the official Samsung variant that offers the longest lifetime of a battery for SGS2 is this one, maybe Mugen 3500 mAh is the best choice out there?
chenrp said:
well i an getting with the original battery 24H of usage.
with the 3500mah i am getting 60H of usage... so my 3500 is truly 3500mah!
the language is hebrew.
i use congnition rom 1.51 and siyah kernel.
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What is the model name of the battery? Is it being overheated in comparison to stock one?
why should it overheat?
it is lithium ... same same
Yes, it's special lithium from China extracted under full moon and blessed by a thousand virgins
Really now, if it was possible to manufacture a battery having more than double the capacity of the stock battery while taking up the same volume, don't you think the megacorporate Samsung would buy that technology immediately in order to use it themselves ? "Too cheap to be true" is valid even here; most knock-off batteries either are fake ("9999 mAH SUPER EXTRA" sticker over the original rating), or will degrade quickly in time leaving you with a dud.
Since there are already fake electronic components...
... why not fake and cheap batteries too, certainly seems to be a high demand for them.
a. it is not the same volume! in is twice as much as the original.
b. the i9100 has a circuit that allows a slow stable charge rate so i dont think it will damage the battery.
As well as being made of inferior materials, not being subjected to the same QC, not having the fuel gauge chip present in original Samsung batteries, you pretty much get what you pay for.
My advice would be to avoid non-original batteries altogether, and given a 2000mAh original battery will cost around the same as one of these 3000mAh+ batteries with all their problems & poor life, it's a no brainer.
Stick with Samsung batteries.
fuel gauge chip?
i would like to see that chip in an any cellphone battery please.
If you're not aware of/don't know about the fuel gauge chip in original SGS2 batteries, you've probably been living under a rock since the phone was released
chenrp said:
fuel gauge chip?
i would like to see that chip in an any cellphone battery please.
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If you're not aware of/don't know about the fuel gauge chip in original SGS2 batteries, you've probably been living under a rock since the phone was released
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well i think that you misunderstood the meaning fuel gauge.
there is no chip in the battery that is in charge of the fuel gauge.
furthermore there is no use of recalibrating the battery in out i9100 model.
all you gave me is a link you Google...
please... show me that chip! i would like to learn something new about lithium batteries..
Plz can you Possible link topic of the battery
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chenrp said:
why should it overheat?
it is lithium ... same same
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What about the other question that you chose to ignore, regarding the battery's model that you mentioned.
thanks for the info guys,
cuz I need a battery really disparately cuz I use so much data and sync :'(
I couldn't find something really reliable feedback from viewers, and i'm trying to find something with good quality as well!
guess i have to search further!
VAXXi said:
Yes, it's special lithium from China extracted under full moon and blessed by a thousand virgins
Really now, if it was possible to manufacture a battery having more than double the capacity of the stock battery while taking up the same volume, don't you think the megacorporate Samsung would buy that technology immediately in order to use it themselves ? "Too cheap to be true" is valid even here; most knock-off batteries either are fake ("9999 mAH SUPER EXTRA" sticker over the original rating), or will degrade quickly in time leaving you with a dud.
Since there are already fake electronic components...
... why not fake and cheap batteries too, certainly seems to be a high demand for them.
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You have a point mate! Thanks
3100 mha battery ...any body have used this battery..any good
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Baixt-Capacity-3100mAh-Standard-EB615268VU/dp/B008JAYXVU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346273688&sr=8-1
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3100 mha battery ...any body have used this battery..any good
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Baixt-Capacity-3100mAh-Standard-EB615268VU/dp/B008JAYXVU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346273688&sr=8-1
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Please tell me the Note 2 battery fits my Note!?
SealsNavie said:
Please tell me the Note 2 battery fits my Note!?
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dunno about note 2..but this one states clearly for note 1...:laugh:
scorpion100 said:
dunno about note 2..but this one states clearly for note 1...:laugh:
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Yeah...but its made in China most likely and is a fail.
SealsNavie said:
Yeah...but its made in China most likely and is a fail.
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if you found a good battery better than 2500 mha..plz bring it on board..my battery life sux ...charge it everyday that is why looking for 3100 batteries
I will never ever buy a unoriginal battery. There's a reason why we read those articles about exploding devices.
LordManhattan said:
I will never ever buy a unoriginal battery. There's a reason why we read those articles about exploding devices.
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What about the Mugen battery?...didn't XDA recommend it?
With the current state of technology it'll be hard to get significantly more than 2500mAh to fit within the Note's battery size... So that one is a fake, like all the other Chinese knock offs that offer similar ratings...
freebeerz said:
With the current state of technology it'll be hard to get significantly more than 2500mAh to fit within the Note's battery size... So that one is a fake, like all the other Chinese knock offs that offer similar ratings...
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im sorry but i have to correct you on this..i bought ANKER battery which is 2700..it does last longer than the original 2500 and it fits perfectly... it is made in china... and it perform better than the original samsung battery..so it is not always true that chinese batteries are fake and no good..and by the way can you go around your house and check all the products you have you should find most electronics you own made in china :laugh: ..and am from uk
scorpion100 said:
if you found a good battery better than 2500 mha..plz bring it on board..
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That's just Chinese junk with most likely LOWER real mAh than the original battery...
my battery life sux ...charge it everyday that is why looking for 3100 batteries
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You are trying to solve the every smartphone's problem of needing a daily charge in the completely wrong way.
Buy additional batteries (I have a total of 4 original ones) and separate desktop battery chargers (I have 2 original ones) and you will never again have "battery anxiety" nor will you have ever again to keep your smartphone chained down to a wallet charger since you will be charging each battery separately from the phone...
I have been doing this since MANY years on my last 6 smartphones and I am continually shocked to see how seemingly few people are taking advantage of this setup... Even "powerusers" on xda!
For me there is NO other way and I consider "smart"phones with integrated batteries as useless, worthless toys...
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That's just Chinese junk with most likely LOWER real mAh than the original battery...
You are trying to solve the every smartphone's problem of needing a daily charge in the completely wrong way.
Buy additional batteries (I have a total of 4 original ones) and separate desktop battery chargers (I have 2 original ones) and you will never again have "battery anxiety" nor will you have ever again to keep your smartphone chained down to a wallet charger since you will be charging each battery separately from the phone...
I have been doing this since MANY years on my last 6 smartphones and I am continually shocked to see how seemingly few people are taking advantage of this setup... Even "powerusers" on xda!
For me there is NO other way and I consider "smart"phones with integrated batteries as useless, worthless toys...
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yeah i already bought an extra batteries ..i just bought the anker battery with 2700 and trust me it last longer than the original...and im going to buy another original as a spare as well... so in total i will be having 3 batteries
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yeah i already bought an extra batteries ..i just bought the anker battery with 2700 and trust me it last longer than the original...and im going to buy another original as a spare as well... so in total i will be having 3 batteries
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Are you also using desktop battery chargers? If the answer is yes I would really like to know why you want to mess around with non-original batteries...
All of the tests (or at least the professionally done ones..) that I have seen show that most of these batteries have sensibly lower real mAh than the nominal ones and/or degrade pretty more quickly. The few good ones are invariably the expensive ones which, when they grant appreciable higher mAh than the original ones, are also sensibly bigger and heavier and require different, "bulging" back covers to accomodate them which means that they can most probably not be docked anymore in the car mount or in the desktop dock (if you use one), are less comfortable to pocket, make the phone heavier and ruin the design too (not much important this last point but still), YUCK!
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Are you also using desktop battery chargers? If the answer is yes I would really like to know why you want to mess around with non-original batteries...
All of the tests (or at least the professionally done ones..) that I have seen show that most of these batteries have sensibly lower real mAh than the nominal ones and/or degrade pretty more quickly. The few good ones are invariably the expensive ones which, when they grant appreciable higher mAh than the original ones, are also sensibly bigger and heavier and require different, "bulging" back covers to accomodate them which means that they can most probably not be docked anymore in the car mount or in the desktop dock (if you use one), are less comfortable to pocket, make the phone heavier and ruin the design too (not much important this last point but still), YUCK!
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no mate just those batteries... so your advise is to stay away from not original... although ANKER seems to have positive feedback from customers who bought it in amazon..
SealsNavie said:
What about the Mugen battery?...didn't XDA recommend it?
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Well, Mugen makes quality batteries and it's a known brand. The chinese no-name batteries are not. We do not know how it's made, what materials has been used and so on. It's not worth the risk IMO. If that battery melts or worse; explodes, you won't only lose the 10 dollars you used - your device and maybe even your leg/face will get damaged.
Worth it?
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no mate just those batteries...
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then you're hugely missing out on the benefits I talked about.
Toss away non-original batteries, get yourself a desktop battery chargher and forget about all these nonsense battery problems!
so your advise is to stay away from not original... although ANKER seems to have positive feedback from customers who bought it in amazon..
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I don't care about feedback from who knows who, I care about cold hard datas and the facts are those I wrote above.
Adopt the setup I suggested you and you too will see no reason to use anything else but original batteries.
You talk sense guys..thx for advice..is there any particular desktop charger you would recommend ??
xdapao3 said:
That's just Chinese junk with most likely LOWER real mAh than the original battery...
You are trying to solve the every smartphone's problem of needing a daily charge in the completely wrong way.
Buy additional batteries (I have a total of 4 original ones) and separate desktop battery chargers (I have 2 original ones) and you will never again have "battery anxiety" nor will you have ever again to keep your smartphone chained down to a wallet charger since you will be charging each battery separately from the phone...
I have been doing this since MANY years on my last 6 smartphones and I am continually shocked to see how seemingly few people are taking advantage of this setup... Even "powerusers" on xda!
For me there is NO other way and I consider "smart"phones with integrated batteries as useless, worthless toys...
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I think most of the people don't like multiple batteries as that requires popping out the accessory cover/case AND the phone cover every single time to swap the battery. Of course, the batteries and their chargers need to be carried around too. All this is tedious and most don't like this inconvenience, so they prefer a battery with higher mAh instead of multiple batteries.
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scorpion100 said:
You talk sense guys..thx for advice..is there any particular desktop charger you would recommend ??
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Like I mentioned twice already: http://www.amazon.it/Samsung-EBH-1E...1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346297966&sr=8-1-fkmr0
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incisivekeith said:
I think most of the people don't like multiple batteries as that requires popping out the accessory cover/case AND the phone cover every single time to swap the battery.
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Turning the phone off, swapping batteries and turning the phone on takes all of 30 sec.
Now compare 30 seconds to keeping your phone "on a leash" every single day for 2-3 HOURS to a wall charger... and you call THAT "tedious"????
As for cases, I have NEVER used cases on any of my phones (hate them for all the reasons listed again below) so I won't comment on that other than noting that you talk about cases but with bigger batteries you can't use cases AT ALL so that's just another disadvantage of bigger than original batteries!
Poof course, the batteries and their chargers need to be carried around too. All this is tedious and most don't like this inconvenience, so they prefer a battery with higher mAh instead of multiple batteries.
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Just the batteries, of course (you take with you however many you may need), what would be the reason for carrying around the chargers??
You charge your battery/batteries once you get back home.
An extended battery will NEVER last as long as just 2 original batteries (besides making it fatter, heavier, uncomfortable, not dockable etc) and with multiple batteries you can cover completely whatever you need to do with your smartphone even for short multi-day complete trips. Imagine being out camping, with extended batteries you would have to bring with you heavy external batteries anyway to which you would ALSO have to keep your Note tethered to for hours to recharge...
Very long trips? Of course you take the battery charger (very slim and light BTW and doubles as a stand to boot) with you, exactly like you would have to take your normal charger with external batteries.
There is no real point AGAINST additional batteries and there are PLENTY FOR IT.
It's a no brainer for any poweruser (i.e. anyone who actually NEEDS and USES smartphones...).
I'm always testing out new types of chargers but i agree, official charger and then one or two spare batteries - no more battery anxiety
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LordManhattan said:
There's a reason why we read those articles about exploding devices.
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what about those iphones that exploded? they dont have removable batteries
Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html
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Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html
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Here you go. The 1st link is a video teardown and the 2nd is a guide. You will need to apply some heat to open the cover. But a blow dryer may suffice. Buy T7000 glue to glue the cover back on. Its a very simple removal, not hard at all.
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Vicxx said:
Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html
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it is fake
PhoneTechShop said:
it is fake
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How do you know? have you tried it?
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How do you know? have you tried it?
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No these chinese companies trying lie to sell ... not just with these batteries but any other.. just peel of their label and u will see original 5000 huawei battery
I know some of them do lie but you can't go around saying ALL chinese companies and sellers are frauds. If you're going around making unsubstantiated claims with not even a shred of evidence no one will ever take you seriously again, at least not me.
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I know some of them do lie but you can't go around saying ALL chinese companies and sellers are frauds. If you're going around making unsubstantiated claims with not even a shred of evidence no one will ever take you seriously again, at least not me.
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Is the battery bigger or thicker than orig ? u cannot make bigger mAh and keeping same size man think.com ...
download an app which detects battery capacity and let me know who was right ...
Or let me know how longer will phone last from charge than with original
Edit : I attached picture from your link and they claiming in description ''above 5000mAh'' How can you be so naive??
And 7000 ?? yeah right ... keep dreaming..
And one Russian (with bad english) left only 3 stars s the battery apparently is not any good .. Didn't understand quite what he was saying.. But 3 stars says it all
to be fair its not all just about size, there is a thing such as energy density, which is actually the most important factor in a battery's design
in general, i would advise caution when buying non-original batteries. at the same time, higher capacity in the same form factor is totally inside the realm of possibility.
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to be fair its not all just about size, there is a thing such as energy density, which is actually the most important factor in a battery's design
in general, i would advise caution when buying non-original batteries. at the same time, higher capacity in the same form factor is totally inside the realm of possibility.
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As I know about batteries. Li-ion batteries has best density
Speaking of cell density batteries there would have to be new design and new technology.
For more battery cells you obviously need larger battery ! THAT'S WHY Mate 20 X / Honor Note 10 battery is the largest from all.
Battery Size
Although higher-capacity batteries generally last longer than lower-capacity ones, they are not always suitable for use in every device. To achieve a higher capacity, battery makers often have to fit more cells into each battery. Cells are the parts of a battery in which the chemical reaction needed to generate electricity happens. Increasing a battery's cell count can in turn increase both the size and weight of the battery, making it unsuitable for use in slimline devices such as smaller cell phones and netbooks. The temperature and speed of electrical current discharge affects the overall capacity of the battery. Poorly made batteries often heat up too quickly resulting in performance issues or degraded capacity.
To calculate a battery's life, divide the capacity of the battery by the current required by the object it powers. For example, imagine that you have two batteries for your cell phone, one with a capacity of 1000 mAh and one with a capacity of 2000 mAh, and that your phone requires a current of 200 mA to function. The first battery would power the phone for five hours, as 1000 divided by 200 equals five. But the second battery would power the phone for ten hours, as it has double the capacity of the first. While a larger number indicates battery power, larger mAh batteries may not be better if it is a poor quality battery. It simply means it can store more power.
Cell phone battery life is heavily dependent on the way in which you use the phone. The more features you run at the same time on your phone, the more current your phone requires and the quicker the battery's capacity drains. This is why using WiFi or running complex games on your phone drains the battery quickly. As such, a battery with a high capacity that is used to power a smartphone might last for less time than a low-capacity battery that powers a basic device.