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[Q] Utilize Droid2 CPU Driver for Defy?

Okay, i have some questions...
1- If the cpu on the defy is the same on Droid 2 ( omap 3630 with VR530GPU ) if you see the Drivers on Droid 2 and put in to Defy, the device will start truth?
i mean, to know finally what cpu type use our phone.
If the Droid 2 drivers don't work, That means it is not the same processor right?
It may be that the driver of motorola droid defy and 2 are identical? there is any way to confirm that?
Thanks for the posible answers.
PD: srry my bad english

I think it's different from a PC. There is no seperate CPU, it's a system on a chip, no?
Parts of it can be disabled, and the Defy seems to have the HD movie part disabled. Maybe you could unlock this if it's actually working, like with graphics cards.

nisamtetreb said:
I think it's different from a PC. There is no seperate CPU, it's a system on a chip, no?
Parts of it can be disabled, and the Defy seems to have the HD movie part disabled. Maybe you could unlock this if it's actually working, like with graphics cards.
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Of course, it's sistem on a chip.
But if Defy have a Cortex A8 ( omap 3630-SGX530 ) it's the same as Droid 2 right?
I think, the Defy have the same SOC as Droid2, my friend have one too, and benches, reproduces video like the Defy.

[Q] Xperia ARC vs Xperia PLAY

Hello!
Please tell me which games are there which I can't play on ARC while I can on PLAY?
Please name such games if you can.
I am about to buy any one of these tommorrow, and don't know which to prefer; here is a little comparison, please correct me if I am wrong and also mention something I might have missed;
ARC :
Great body design
Great body material
Great Camera
Poor sound
No gaming Pad
Larger Screen
Not so good Web experience
Not so good Touch Interface
Radio
PLAY :
Average body design
Poor body material
Average Camera
Great sound
Gaming Pad
Average Screen
Great Web Experience
Great Touch experience
No Radio
Also tell me is there any difference between them as far as the user experience is concerned, I mean any application or function or anything that ARC has and Play don't or vice versa?
How much do they differ as far as the browsing experience is concerned?
So far Arc is winning, I guess, but now it all depends upon the games. That's is why I am contacting you all. I mean I am interested in Star Battalion and Asphalt (which from what I know can be played on ARC), and not much interested in Crash Bandicot.
Please reply soon.
Thanks in advance.

Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?

Torres77an said:
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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I've never had a problem with the web experience on the arc .

Torres77an said:
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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Hello!
I don't know really.
I guess I got the impression from the fact that SE's official site says that PLAY is a great web experience on top of great gaming experience. And also from a video which showcased some downsides of ARC's browser versus that of IPhone 4 but couldn't find any video doing the same for PLAY.

I have to Disagree on some of your Points there on Arc
Poor sound
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You must not say POOR in General because for a Single Loud Speaker Arc Speaker is One of the Best out there, Dont' compare Single to Stereo Speaker, but Yes Xperia Play's Speaker is The Best Speakers on Mobile Phone out there.
Not so good Web experience
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Of course Bigger screen means Better Web Experience IMHO, I don't see why Arc will not do better than Play?
Not so good Touch Interface
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All Xperia right now have The Same Excellent Touch Interface, but Most Xperia's out there are Applied with Shatter Proof Sheet on a Mineral Glass that protects the screen, that could slightly decreases Touch Performance
IMO Both Phones are Great except they are focused on Different markets
Arc as the Camera/Video Stylish Phone and Play as the Gaming Phone Equipped with Superb PS controls and LOUD Stereo Speakers
but overall Experience is Great
You can also visit my youtube channel to see Arc in Action for Games
Arc Youtube Video's

I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.

Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.

price is a constant too, the arc is cheaper

Pjay12 said:
Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.
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You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings

mhyke13ph said:
You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings
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Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)

Pjay12 said:
Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)
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No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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mhyke13ph said:
No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?

Pjay12 said:
OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?
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Oh yea you should replace that X8, too bad X8 was a great contender last year for Mid Range phones, but they didn't supported it well and it's like a Dead on Arrival Phone
Here is my Personal Youtube Channel
It Includes Unboxing, Quick Review(No voice though, Im Shy ) and lots of GAMES! Please Rate and Share too
I only encounter Lags when playing Asphalt 6, maybe because this game is not for Arc, and because this game is for Xperia Play Optimised, but still playable and it rarely lags.
If i could own Both that would be nice

Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock

Pjay12 said:
Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock
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No, I stayed on Stock Rom 2.3.3 and No Root , Still waiting for a Rootable 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 when time comes
Xperia Play Handles Games and Task very well because it is the only phone out there that uses a dual channel DDR2 memory working at 300 Hertz, that Improves Performances a lot and can perform Heavy Task.
Thats why Playing games on Play is Optimised and stayed @ 60FPS Refresh Rate.
One Very Big Pro for Xplay

athris said:
I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.
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The play has bravia engine since doomlord ported it

IMO the Play and the Arc are both excellent devices. But they are aimed at two totally diffrent markets. The Play has been heavly optimised for playing games. (stereo speakers, dual channel ddr2 memory). But unless you intend to play alot of games on your phone, i see no reason to buy a play over an Arc. I love playing games on my play. And could never go back to touchscreen games now

If you want to game a lot --> Play is for you because of the controla
If you want to use it as a normal smartphone, texting, browsing, gaming sometimes Arc is the way to go imo.
I don't regret getting my Arc and it's fast @ 1GHz but of course it's even snappier @ 1.2GHz
Mine midnight blue Arc has the crack but it's not that visable (most of my friends don't see it, even if you say them there's a crack).
Arc rocks, but both devices are great.
Day to day performance should be exactly the same on Arc and Play due same specs and same using experience.
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Actually I Play a lot but I did chose Arc over Play because of these Factors
>Size
>Weight
>Screen Size
>Screen Brightness
>Clear Black Panel
>Bravia Engine
>8MP Exmor R
>HD Recording
>HDMI Port(Bonus for Me)
>Style
Over
>PS Controls with Touch pads
>Stereo Speakers
>Exclusive Games and PS Suite
>Dual DDR2 Memory Channel
>Front Facing Camera
Put Those Arc Features in Play, I will choose Play Anytime
They could easily put some of those features and make Play as their Flagship phone?
Just Imagine All those Arc Features(not the Size and Weight) in Play

Those of you who have the play- (AndroHero I think)
Will the play be able to support PSP and PS2 games? Its my biggest concern about the Play. I saw a video on youtube - Modern warfare for xperia play. I know it was fake but the graphics :O:O:O:O:O:O Will the play ever actually be able to do that? Or will there most probably be a play 2 that will..?
My conclusion (so far) - The Play's gaming controls make it an ultimate portable gaming experience and you can thrash other players in online/multiplayer FPS games. The DDR2 RAM eliminates the lags that you very very rarely see on an xperia arc. And you get a tiny not-very-good front camera that Ill never use. The games can be played on both devices extremely well. Day to day performance is the same.
So...
Camera (really awesome cam) vs gaming controls.
Great.. Im exactly where I started out :/
Thanks all for the help More opinions always welcome. Im begging for them actually... It'll be my first high end android and I dont want to regret buying it or later thinking damn I should have bought the <insert name of what I didnt buy>
Edit- how is the support for the 2 devices when it comes to custom roms, kernels, etc?
Ive searched the forums for both, theres one note-worthy kernel (doom), one FXP rom each and the play has 2 or 3 others. Are roms for the arc in progress? Or is the stock rom brilliant as it is? Sorry for the *noob* questions. But Ive done the searching and researching and I want confirmation and stuffs I didnt know. New to the forums here etc etc

Arc S, worth changing for?

When the Arc first came out I got one and to be honest, hated it. Too slow, FC's galore and lots of other random problems. I bought a Galaxy s2 and apart from it's ugliness, been pretty happy.
Now the new Arc S has a faster processor and FF camera so I'm thinking about going for one of them. Has anyone else made a similar move? What's your opinions on the S model in general over the standard arc?

dsmaori said:
When the Arc first came out I got one and to be honest, hated it. Too slow, FC's galore and lots of other random problems. I bought a Galaxy s2 and apart from it's ugliness, been pretty happy.
Now the new Arc S has a faster processor and FF camera so I'm thinking about going for one of them. Has anyone else made a similar move? What's your opinions on the S model in general over the standard arc?
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The original arc has been perfectioned a lot with the latest updates.
I think it won´t differ a lot from the arc S.
And don´t worry about speed, because with android ice cream the UI will be rendered by the GPU.

dsmaori said:
When the Arc first came out I got one and to be honest, hated it. Too slow, FC's galore and lots of other random problems. I bought a Galaxy s2 and apart from it's ugliness, been pretty happy.
Now the new Arc S has a faster processor and FF camera so I'm thinking about going for one of them. Has anyone else made a similar move? What's your opinions on the S model in general over the standard arc?
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I think you got a defective unit in the first place.
If i were you, I would wait for Sony Ericsson ‘Aoba’ & ‘Nozomi’ 1.5GHz dual-core phones. 1.5GHz dual-core smartphone with Adreno 220 graphics and a 1280 x 720 pixel display (true HD resolution).

Thanks for your replies. It woiuld make sense to wait til the dual core but it would be nice to have a good looking phone again...

keyword : keep up with the updates.
when arc first came out, it has 2.3.2 preinstalled. several updates later, now we are at 2.3.4.. lots of diference. better performance, better batery life, lots of new features... everything is a lot better then 2.3.2.
btw, last time i check arc s doesn't have a FF camera

squalldua - you're right no FF camera on Arc S.. it's basically an arc with a faster processor.

Mobage said:
I think you got a defective unit in the first place.
If i were you, I would wait for Sony Ericsson ‘Aoba’ & ‘Nozomi’ 1.5GHz dual-core phones. 1.5GHz dual-core smartphone with Adreno 220 graphics and a 1280 x 720 pixel display (true HD resolution).
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I agreed.
Do you think SE will stay with this design and upgrade the hardware inside with better processor and gpu? (like what they did with Arc S with processor upgrade).
I will sure get one dual core and upgraded gpu SE phone in future. I see the rumour dual core design is kinda ugly. I like the arc beauty design very much already.

im_iceman said:
squalldua - you're right no FF camera on Arc S.. it's basically an arc with a faster processor.
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How do you make video calls without a FF camera? That's one of the features that they said is different about the S? Would you say the S would be as fast as the Galaxy s2 with the new processor?

> How do you make video calls without a FF camera? That's one of the features that they said is different about the S? Would you say the S would be as fast as the Galaxy s2 with the new processor?
You CAN make video calls because even if there is no front camera. Use the back camera, use a mirror, or whatever resorcefulness you can think of.
Galaxy S2 is dual core and of different architecture (it is not Qualcomm / Adreno combo). So you cannot just compare it in that manner. It depends on your use. For instance on my Arc, I even downclock to 600+ Mhz and I am happy with the performance.

The whole idea of video calling is that you can see each other while you are talking and using a mirror to be able to do that is just stupid. I'll stick with the s2

Neo has front camera, and same spec as arc otherwise.. If that's important to you?
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Neo has front camera, and same spec as arc otherwise.. If that's important to you?
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Yea but it'sa smaller screen
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dsmaori said:
When the Arc first came out I got one and to be honest, hated it. Too slow, FC's galore and lots of other random problems. I bought a Galaxy s2 and apart from it's ugliness, been pretty happy.
Now the new Arc S has a faster processor and FF camera so I'm thinking about going for one of them. Has anyone else made a similar move? What's your opinions on the S model in general over the standard arc?
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I would stick with the gs2 you will miss the memory!
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I like trying different phones and owned a sgs2, sensation and evo 3d recently. I have never tried Sony Ericsson before and thought will give it a shot. I bought the Xperia arc yesterday from Amazon USA since the arc s is not available here still. I have to say i'm impressed by how light it feels and also has great looks. I'm also impressed by the display even compared to super amoled plus in sgs2. This one is more realistic display than the amoled one. But on the hardware side its a letdown. I didn't even know that this doesn't have a front facing camera until I read here
I mean cmon that is basic in 2011, anyway I don't use video calls so doesn't bother me that much.
Sony Ericsson has great potential if only they can keep up to pace with HTC and Samsung on the spec side.
Hopefully the dual core phones from Sony release before the quad core phones start coming out.
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kirdroid said:
I like trying different phones and owned a sgs2, sensation and evo 3d recently. I have never tried Sony Ericsson before and thought will give it a shot. I bought the Xperia arc yesterday from Amazon USA since the arc s is not available here still. I have to say i'm impressed by how light it feels and also has great looks. I'm also impressed by the display even compared to super amoled plus in sgs2. This one is more realistic display than the amoled one. But on the hardware side its a letdown. I didn't even know that this doesn't have a front facing camera until I read here
I mean cmon that is basic in 2011, anyway I don't use video calls so doesn't bother me that much.
Sony Ericsson has great potential if only they can keep up to pace with HTC and Samsung on the spec side.
Hopefully the dual core phones from Sony release before the quad core phones start coming out.
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Why do you even need a dualcore let alone a quadcore ??
Im very satisfied with single core on my Arc ...

kiyu727 said:
Why do you even need a dualcore let alone a quadcore ??
Im very satisfied with single core on my Arc ...
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Because I see the difference of speed, performance on stock sgs2 or even sense bloated sensation to an extent. Also why not have the dual core when it is available for quite a while now? Its not going to harm you in any away. If we go by your logic then why is Sony releasing dual core phones at all?
Don't get me wrong this is a nice phone but lacks a little power that's it.
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Isn't the arc s with same processer just overclocked?
U can overclock upto 1.9 Ghz with DooMKernel...

sahibunlimited said:
Isn't the arc s with same processer just overclocked?
U can overclock upto 1.9 Ghz with DooMKernel...
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There is a slight different in processor.
Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon for Arc and Qualcomm MSM8255T Snapdragon
MSM8255 - 45 nm - ARMv7 - 1 GHz Scorpion - Adreno 205 - Dual-channel 333 MHz LPDDR2 GSM (GPRS, EDGE), W-CDMA/UMTS (HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+), MBMS - Q2 2010
(Acer Iconia Smart, Acer W4, HTC Desire HD, HTC Desire S, HTC Incredible S, HTC Inspire 4G, HTC Radar, Huawei Vision, Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc, Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Sony Ericsson Xperia Play, Sony Ericsson Xperia Pro, Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini/Mini Pro, Sony Ericsson Xperia acro SO-02C, Sony Ericsson Xperia ray, Sony Ericsson Xperia active, Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman, T-Mobile myTouch 4G, SHARP GALAPAGOS 003SH/005SH, SHARP DM009SH, SHARP AQUOS PHONE f(SH-13C), SHARP AQUOS PHONE THE HYBRID(007SH/007SH J), SHARP AQUOS PHONE THE PREMIUM(009SH), SHARP 007SH KT, SHARP Yahoo! Phone(009SH Y), Fujitsu F-12C, Blackberry Bold 9900/9930, Blackberry Torch 9810, Blackberry Torch 9860, CSL Mi410, Huawei U9000 IDEOS X6, ZTE 008Z, Huawei Vision)
MSM8255T - 45 nm - ARMv7 - 1.4-1.5 GHz Scorpion - Adreno 205 Dual-channel 333 MHz LPDDR2 - GSM (GPRS, EDGE), W-CDMA/UMTS (HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+), MBMS - 2011
(Samsung Focus Flash, Samsung Focus S, Samsung Galaxy S Plus [2], Samsung Galaxy S II Mini [3] SHARP AQUOS PHONE SH-12C [4], SHARP AQUOS PHONE 006SH, HTC Flyer, Sony Xperia arc S,[22] HTC Titan, Samsung Omnia W, Samsung Galaxy W[23])

kirdroid said:
I like trying different phones and owned a sgs2, sensation and evo 3d recently. I have never tried Sony Ericsson before and thought will give it a shot. I bought the Xperia arc yesterday from Amazon USA since the arc s is not available here still. I have to say i'm impressed by how light it feels and also has great looks. I'm also impressed by the display even compared to super amoled plus in sgs2. This one is more realistic display than the amoled one. But on the hardware side its a letdown. I didn't even know that this doesn't have a front facing camera until I read here
I mean cmon that is basic in 2011, anyway I don't use video calls so doesn't bother me that much.
Sony Ericsson has great potential if only they can keep up to pace with HTC and Samsung on the spec side.
Hopefully the dual core phones from Sony release before the quad core phones start coming out.
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i'm confused, you don't use video call and complaining arc has no FF ??
here we go again, "dual core is better then single core" debate..

squalldua said:
i'm confused, you don't use video call and complaining arc has no FF ??
here we go again, "dual core is better then single core" debate..
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I said it is surprising to see a flagship Android device from a company not have front facing camera in 2011. I said it doesn't bother me because I don't use it, but it is good to have cuz you never know it may come handy some day.
Again if you are happy with the phone with single core that is fine ...I was just saying that Sony Ericsson should be little early into the game in terms of specs if they have to compete for global sales with HTC and Samsung.
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Xperia Play from Arc...worth the upgrade?

I recently acquired an Arc from a friend at a good price but also managed to order the Xperia Play from Chitter Chatter for £149.
I had a HTC HD2 and a PSP Go (loved both of them) but thought 'time for an upgrade' and to minimise the gear I carried ordered the Play from Expansys.
Long story cut short, the Play was delayed then cancelled and I bought the Arc to put me on until the Play arrived from CC.
Now, I can't play games properly without the game pad (and miss the PSP GO) but I am loving the quality of the Arc's screen and camera. It's nice and light too.
So, anyone with experience of them both can advise me if I should stick with the Arc? I am hearing a few bad things about the Play's build quality. I cannot see a reasonably priced (or stylish) bluetooth gamepad which would solve my dilemma.

I heard that the Arc will support any USB gamepad/controller via the LiveDock after the update to Android 2.3.4...
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Build quality on the play is great. There was issues with the back button. But that had been solved in latest update so it was software fault not hardware. Nothing wrong with the screen too. The arcs may be better, but the play screen is just as good as the one on my Desire HD. And with our dual channel ddr2 ram its faster than the arc. As for the camera. It takes pictures, 3mp/5mp/8mp whatever, either way all sonys camera's are solid
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AndroHero said:
And with our dual channel ddr2 ram its faster than the arc.
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actually they both use dual channel 333mhz LPDDR2

pecholino said:
actually they both use dual channel 333mhz LPDDR2
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Source?
all i know or read it in xplay thread, that only xplay uses dual channel 333mhz, but all of MSM8255 is capable of dual channel ram but that depends on the manufacturer if it will include it, because it will have an effect to the price.

Xperia S performance

Hey guys! I want to buy Xperia S. I like specs, but I have few questions about hardware.
Its dual core processor, is it powerful enough? Is Xperia S UI smooth on latest Sony's firmware and latest Cyanogenmod? Is complete operating system smooth on both? Do you have any issues?
Its GPU - Adreno 225, is it powerful enough? Are you able to run latest games smoothly, without hiccups?
Is phone big? Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth.

Option58 said:
Hey guys! I want to buy Xperia S. I like specs, but I have few questions about hardware.
Its dual core processor, is it powerful enough? Is Xperia S UI smooth on latest Sony's firmware and latest Cyanogenmod? Is complete operating system smooth on both? Do you have any issues?
Its GPU - Adreno 225, is it powerful enough? Are you able to run latest games smoothly, without hiccups?
Is phone big? Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth.
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IMO my stock Xperia S is not especially smooth. It lags scrolling on the home screen, the camera 'quick-launch' takes forever, apps like messaging and contacts take a frustrating number of seconds to open. I tried out an Xperia T in store the other day and it was just generally smoother - Galaxy S3 and HTC One X seem in a different world. I'm sure the S is great on CM9 and CM10 but I've got a locked bootloader so can't install those. If you want the smoothest stock phone, look at the Nexus 4 or Galaxy S3 at the moment.
It's not terrible, and it'll do the job just fine, but if you want buttery smooth I'd recommend looking elsewhere.

dixter said:
IMO my stock Xperia S is not especially smooth. It lags scrolling on the home screen, the camera 'quick-launch' takes forever, apps like messaging and contacts take a frustrating number of seconds to open. I tried out an Xperia T in store the other day and it was just generally smoother - Galaxy S3 and HTC One X seem in a different world. I'm sure the S is great on CM9 and CM10 but I've got a locked bootloader so can't install those. If you want the smoothest stock phone, look at the Nexus 4 or Galaxy S3 at the moment.
It's not terrible, and it'll do the job just fine, but if you want buttery smooth I'd recommend looking elsewhere.
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Yeah, well I have Xperia Miro now (official ICS, 800 Mhz single core), it lags but does the job. And when I tried HTC phone in store (ICS, 600 Mhz) it was like very smooth, really slow processor but smoother than mine. So I am not satisfied with Sony's software at all.
But I tried Xperia P in store and it seemed smooth. Also do you have touchscreen issues like I have on Miro?
But considering Miro is low end, I thought Xperia S is way smoother.
Anybody else, cyanogenmod?

all lags its because a lot of blotware is preinstalled on phone...
i have stock .55 rom with RooT (locked BL), via TB deleted unused system apps and LOW of blotware ( TB backup have 220MB) and phone runs really smoth... + another launcher (im using apex), and its best of...

Well yes. But can somebody answer me other questions please?

About playing 1080p MKV movies : Yes, but you will face with a big problem that any file which has over 4Gb can not be transfered to the phone.
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Go for ACRO S. It's little better than Xperia S in-case of battery back up. Rest is same. And some MKV files of 1080p may face trouble while syncing between sound and video.

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Hey guys! I want to buy Xperia S. I like specs, but I have few questions about hardware.
Its dual core processor, is it powerful enough? Is Xperia S UI smooth on latest Sony's firmware and latest Cyanogenmod? Is complete operating system smooth on both? Do you have any issues?
Its GPU - Adreno 225, is it powerful enough? Are you able to run latest games smoothly, without hiccups?
Is phone big? Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?
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latest cyanogenmod (cm10): very smooth. latest sony's fw: havent tried. my current rom (miui based on stock (kinda old version) sony's fw: smooth, with a little tweak (it's miui, so, appearance matters most ). havent got any issues on both rom. there are something that dont work in cm10, but it's ignorable
the gpu is adreno - 220, not 225. but the difference (afaik) only bit mhz, and support with dx9.3, which has nothing to do with android, so the performance wont be to far from xperia t. it can play games smoothly. what is the latest games anyway? my latest "big" games are wild blood and nfs: mw. dont have any hiccups in those two.
is phone big?: it's 4.3 inch. how big is your hand. the phone is fit nicely in my hand while i think htc one x (4.7) and gs3 (4.8) doesnt fit well, but it's just matter of preference and once you got to use to your phone (any phone) it'll feel nicely fit in your hand.
Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?: well of course.. except you're in elementary school
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?: havent tried 9 gB mkv. but i have tried with 5 gB mkv 1080p, i use ufd with otg, slap the hdmi cable to my hdtv, and playing it smoothly with mxplayer.
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth: i think im not.. and it's like my third sony device since playstation 1 and sooo old radio...

m1st3r1 said:
latest cyanogenmod (cm10): very smooth. latest sony's fw: havent tried. my current rom (miui based on stock (kinda old version) sony's fw: smooth, with a little tweak (it's miui, so, appearance matters most ). havent got any issues on both rom. there are something that dont work in cm10, but it's ignorable
the gpu is adreno - 220, not 225. but the difference (afaik) only bit mhz, and support with dx9.3, which has nothing to do with android, so the performance wont be to far from xperia t. it can play games smoothly. what is the latest games anyway? my latest "big" games are wild blood and nfs: mw. dont have any hiccups in those two.
is phone big?: it's 4.3 inch. how big is your hand. the phone is fit nicely in my hand while i think htc one x (4.7) and gs3 (4.8) doesnt fit well, but it's just matter of preference and once you got to use to your phone (any phone) it'll feel nicely fit in your hand.
Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?: well of course.. except you're in elementary school
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?: havent tried 9 gB mkv. but i have tried with 5 gB mkv 1080p, i use ufd with otg, slap the hdmi cable to my hdtv, and playing it smoothly with mxplayer.
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth: i think im not.. and it's like my third sony device since playstation 1 and sooo old radio...
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Thats the answer I was looking for...Thanks

Actually, I go to high school
I think I will go for Xperia T because of better camera, GPU...And similar price ;D
One last question because T and S have same CPU - No CPU related bugs? Will I be able to run latest unofficial android updates smoothly for a very long time?
Do I really need Quad core for anything?
Thanks guys

I don't think anyone really needs quadcore realistically
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The hardware is definitely powerful enough. In my daily usage it has never underperformed. Don't worry too much about benchmarks as they're really just a number. CM10 runs very, very smoothly. Games too.
The size of the phone is subjective! How big are your hands? It's quite bit bigger than an iPhone but slips easily into my pockets and the large screen makes it very easy to use. I wouldn't want it to be any bigger though. Try and get hold of one in a shop and see for yourself.
I can't comment on your video situation, but as others have said there are problems with files over 4GB.

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The hardware is definitely powerful enough. In my daily usage it has never underperformed. Don't worry too much about benchmarks as they're really just a number. CM10 runs very, very smoothly. Games too.
The size of the phone is subjective! How big are your hands? It's quite bit bigger than an iPhone but slips easily into my pockets and the large screen makes it very easy to use. I wouldn't want it to be any bigger though. Try and get hold of one in a shop and see for yourself.
I can't comment on your video situation, but as others have said there are problems with files over 4GB.
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Thanks! I can not decide between Xperia T and Xperia S :/ T seems like an slightly updated S xD Help me decide
I know that! That is due to FAT32 file system, it has to be NTFS to transfer larger than 4 GB. Are you able to format to NTFS? I don't want to watch 9GB MKV, I just want my phone be capable of doing it. Can you watch 3-4GB MKV smoothly?

Option58 said:
Thanks! I can not decide between Xperia T and Xperia S :/ T seems like an slightly updated S xD Help me decide
I know that! That is due to FAT32 file system, it has to be NTFS to transfer larger than 4 GB. Are you able to format to NTFS? I don't want to watch 9GB MKV, I just want my phone be capable of doing it. Can you watch 3-4GB MKV smoothly?
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Well, if u have the money and want better performance, go for T.and where do u live? Here in Indonesia T is more expensive, though the brand new xperia s is hard to find.
But if u want sexier phone, go for S..
Yes, as I stated I can even watch more than 4 gB 1080p. The codec (sound codec) matters though. If it's compatible with your video player,it'll play nicely, if not, it'll get out of sync. And if you root your phone, you can read ntfs (via flashdisk or even external harddisk), there is app for that, I use paragon ntfs/hs, and got no problem in any rom.
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m1st3r1 said:
Well, if u have the money and want better performance, go for T.and where do u live? Here in Indonesia T is more expensive, though the brand new xperia s is hard to find.
But if u want sexier phone, go for S..
Yes, as I stated I can even watch more than 4 gB 1080p. The codec (sound codec) matters though. If it's compatible with your video player,it'll play nicely, if not, it'll get out of sync. And if you root your phone, you can read ntfs (via flashdisk or even external harddisk), there is app for that, I use paragon ntfs/hs, and got no problem in any rom.
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What?? Are you saying that you can not play 1080p videos with Software decoding. I believe most of my files will be unsupported with hardware decoding. I wanted to use software decoding and I don't want to convert files before I put them on phone.
Can somebody put some ts (example) file on BSPlayer and put on Software decoding?

Option58 said:
What?? Are you saying that you can not play 1080p videos with Software decoding. I believe most of my files will be unsupported with hardware decoding. I wanted to use software decoding and I don't want to convert files before I put them on phone.
Can somebody put some ts (example) file on BSPlayer and put on Software decoding?
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Mx player plays all of the 1080p videos. Never had any message saying file not supported.
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