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Hello!
Please tell me which games are there which I can't play on ARC while I can on PLAY?
Please name such games if you can.
I am about to buy any one of these tommorrow, and don't know which to prefer; here is a little comparison, please correct me if I am wrong and also mention something I might have missed;
ARC :
Great body design
Great body material
Great Camera
Poor sound
No gaming Pad
Larger Screen
Not so good Web experience
Not so good Touch Interface
Radio
PLAY :
Average body design
Poor body material
Average Camera
Great sound
Gaming Pad
Average Screen
Great Web Experience
Great Touch experience
No Radio
Also tell me is there any difference between them as far as the user experience is concerned, I mean any application or function or anything that ARC has and Play don't or vice versa?
How much do they differ as far as the browsing experience is concerned?
So far Arc is winning, I guess, but now it all depends upon the games. That's is why I am contacting you all. I mean I am interested in Star Battalion and Asphalt (which from what I know can be played on ARC), and not much interested in Crash Bandicot.
Please reply soon.
Thanks in advance.
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
Torres77an said:
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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I've never had a problem with the web experience on the arc .
Torres77an said:
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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Hello!
I don't know really.
I guess I got the impression from the fact that SE's official site says that PLAY is a great web experience on top of great gaming experience. And also from a video which showcased some downsides of ARC's browser versus that of IPhone 4 but couldn't find any video doing the same for PLAY.
I have to Disagree on some of your Points there on Arc
Poor sound
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You must not say POOR in General because for a Single Loud Speaker Arc Speaker is One of the Best out there, Dont' compare Single to Stereo Speaker, but Yes Xperia Play's Speaker is The Best Speakers on Mobile Phone out there.
Not so good Web experience
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Of course Bigger screen means Better Web Experience IMHO, I don't see why Arc will not do better than Play?
Not so good Touch Interface
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All Xperia right now have The Same Excellent Touch Interface, but Most Xperia's out there are Applied with Shatter Proof Sheet on a Mineral Glass that protects the screen, that could slightly decreases Touch Performance
IMO Both Phones are Great except they are focused on Different markets
Arc as the Camera/Video Stylish Phone and Play as the Gaming Phone Equipped with Superb PS controls and LOUD Stereo Speakers
but overall Experience is Great
You can also visit my youtube channel to see Arc in Action for Games
Arc Youtube Video's
I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.
Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.
price is a constant too, the arc is cheaper
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Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.
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You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings
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You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings
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Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)
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Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)
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No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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mhyke13ph said:
No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?
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OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?
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Oh yea you should replace that X8, too bad X8 was a great contender last year for Mid Range phones, but they didn't supported it well and it's like a Dead on Arrival Phone
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I only encounter Lags when playing Asphalt 6, maybe because this game is not for Arc, and because this game is for Xperia Play Optimised, but still playable and it rarely lags.
If i could own Both that would be nice
Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock
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Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock
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No, I stayed on Stock Rom 2.3.3 and No Root , Still waiting for a Rootable 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 when time comes
Xperia Play Handles Games and Task very well because it is the only phone out there that uses a dual channel DDR2 memory working at 300 Hertz, that Improves Performances a lot and can perform Heavy Task.
Thats why Playing games on Play is Optimised and stayed @ 60FPS Refresh Rate.
One Very Big Pro for Xplay
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I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.
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The play has bravia engine since doomlord ported it
IMO the Play and the Arc are both excellent devices. But they are aimed at two totally diffrent markets. The Play has been heavly optimised for playing games. (stereo speakers, dual channel ddr2 memory). But unless you intend to play alot of games on your phone, i see no reason to buy a play over an Arc. I love playing games on my play. And could never go back to touchscreen games now
If you want to game a lot --> Play is for you because of the controla
If you want to use it as a normal smartphone, texting, browsing, gaming sometimes Arc is the way to go imo.
I don't regret getting my Arc and it's fast @ 1GHz but of course it's even snappier @ 1.2GHz
Mine midnight blue Arc has the crack but it's not that visable (most of my friends don't see it, even if you say them there's a crack).
Arc rocks, but both devices are great.
Day to day performance should be exactly the same on Arc and Play due same specs and same using experience.
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Actually I Play a lot but I did chose Arc over Play because of these Factors
>Size
>Weight
>Screen Size
>Screen Brightness
>Clear Black Panel
>Bravia Engine
>8MP Exmor R
>HD Recording
>HDMI Port(Bonus for Me)
>Style
Over
>PS Controls with Touch pads
>Stereo Speakers
>Exclusive Games and PS Suite
>Dual DDR2 Memory Channel
>Front Facing Camera
Put Those Arc Features in Play, I will choose Play Anytime
They could easily put some of those features and make Play as their Flagship phone?
Just Imagine All those Arc Features(not the Size and Weight) in Play
Those of you who have the play- (AndroHero I think)
Will the play be able to support PSP and PS2 games? Its my biggest concern about the Play. I saw a video on youtube - Modern warfare for xperia play. I know it was fake but the graphics :O:O:O:O:O:O Will the play ever actually be able to do that? Or will there most probably be a play 2 that will..?
My conclusion (so far) - The Play's gaming controls make it an ultimate portable gaming experience and you can thrash other players in online/multiplayer FPS games. The DDR2 RAM eliminates the lags that you very very rarely see on an xperia arc. And you get a tiny not-very-good front camera that Ill never use. The games can be played on both devices extremely well. Day to day performance is the same.
So...
Camera (really awesome cam) vs gaming controls.
Great.. Im exactly where I started out :/
Thanks all for the help More opinions always welcome. Im begging for them actually... It'll be my first high end android and I dont want to regret buying it or later thinking damn I should have bought the <insert name of what I didnt buy>
Edit- how is the support for the 2 devices when it comes to custom roms, kernels, etc?
Ive searched the forums for both, theres one note-worthy kernel (doom), one FXP rom each and the play has 2 or 3 others. Are roms for the arc in progress? Or is the stock rom brilliant as it is? Sorry for the *noob* questions. But Ive done the searching and researching and I want confirmation and stuffs I didnt know. New to the forums here etc etc
Hi all,
I'm planning to buy the Play but before I do this I've got a couple of questions regarding the device. Here it goes:
1. Headphones. Is it really true that only SE headphones work with the Play? I've got Sennheiser CX300 regular headphones without any microphone or volume buttons (I dont plan to use any headset, just want my headphones). Would these work with the Play?
2. There are few versions of the Play, namely: r800i/x/a/at. I'd probably be getting r800i because AFAIK this the European version of the Play. Any drawbacks of this version as opposed to the others? Is r800i good for installing unofficial ROMs? Is r800i really the European version?
3. Currently, I've got SGS i9000. I'm worried about the GPU performance of the Play. Is Play's Adreno 205 really a big step-down to i9000's SGX540?
How about the future - do you think that the Play will cope with the requirements of the games that are yet to come? I mean in 1 or 1,5 years?
How about current games? Does Shadowgun or 9mm play smooth?
4. I'm planning to buy a sim unlocked SE Play. Is it going to have an already unlocked bootloader? Or could it be unlocked easily via sonyericsson official website?
Else: What are the chances that I could never be able to unlock the bootloader? I mean free of charge.
5. Are there any serius software or hardware issues with the Play I should know of before buying? I mean issues like e.g.:
some issues with wifi disconnecting, or overheating of the device, or high possibility of the LCD screen becoming out-of-order or bad pixels emerging, or errors in manufacturing the Play that cause it's d-pad buttons to break very easily, or weak slide mechanism.
If anyone responds to this huge and possibly stupid post I'd be really gratefull of your effort. Thanks a lot!
1. No. I use Audio Technica M50 earphones without problems.
2. Not that I know of. I own a R800i myself.
3. I have no idea. I only emulate myself and don't play new games made for the Play. Of course the Samsung has more beef, but it's dual-core also. The Play has less ram also but compensates by being the only phone that has dual channel ddr2 ram at 300Hz instead.
4. It's not unlocked from factory. You can unlock at SE's site yes but it's recommended to do it yourself by following the unlocking guide that is here in the development forum.
5. Not that I know of. Some have reported broken slider, but most of them has beaten them broken themselves while drunk etc. Just be careful and you should have no problem. I have not heard of any other common problems. The device feels fairly high quality even though it's mostly plastic. Specially the gamepad part.
1. all headphones work fine
2. The UK/European version of the phone is fine. You'll need to unlock the bootloader first though. I'm rooted but haven't touched the bootloader, once I've "frozen" all the standard tat I don't like, and use link2sd I find it great
3. Nova 2, Dungeon Hunter2 & Dead Space run great - you can always overclock if you unlock the bootloader and install a custom kernel
4. the bootloader will be locked and the phone will not be rooted. Rooting only takes 5 to 10 mins (2.3.4). I haven't unlocked the bootloader and don't intend to - but I believe sony will give you the info for your specific phone.
5. no issues here - although only had it about 1 month. some people have reported issues when using a compass app. I don't find the dual analog nubs to be all that good - prefer the dpad
1) Only unofficial headphones with a mic don't work. I get around this by using a SE Blootooth receiver with my beats headphones.
2) the R800i is probably the best and most supported model.
3) Adreno 205 beats the PowerVR GPU in the SGS hands down Infact a comparison between adreno 205 and Tegra II is more applicable. Not only that with our dual channel DDR2 ram like the SGS II, gaming is even better than other Adreno 205 devices like the Desire HD.
4) If you buy a sim unlocked device you can unlock the bootloader at the sony unlock site.
5) The device is well built. And the pad is even better built. The wifi is not the greatest but the GPS is amazing and frequent software updates from sony (4 or 5 this year already) keeps the device in shape.
Not to forget Sony Ericsson has recently officially stated that we get Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) to our phones!
1) I use my dre beats and the supplied sony headphone wit hthe phone ; only problem i've found is that the cable with control talk for dr dre comes up as not supported - this still allows me to listen to music but I cant skip tracks etc with control talk.
2)No limitations.
3)The xperia play beats the sgs due to reasons already listed.
4)If its sim unlocked when you buy it ; there wont be a locked bootloader.
5)No there are not.
Really big thank you for your answers. I'm pretty convinced by now to by the Play.
One more thing though:
Has anyone played some top-notch 3d games, like shadowgun or 9mm? Do they play very smooth (without any overclocking)?
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Really big thank you for your answers. I'm pretty convinced by now to by the Play.
One more thing though:
Has anyone played some top-notch 3d games, like shadowgun or 9mm? Do they play very smooth (without any overclocking)?
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Yep both play great at stock clockspeed. so do other top notch 3D games like riptide, dead space and quake 3 arena
Ok, thanks. It's good to hear that
What about the screen? Is it glass or plastic. Does it get scratched easily?
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Ok, thanks. It's good to hear that
What about the screen? Is it glass or plastic. Does it get scratched easily?
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The screen is mineral glass, but every play comes with a factory fitted shatter proof screen protector. The screen protector is easly scratched but many people have removed it and said the mineral glass underneath is solid and quite hard to scratch
Hey guys iam just here to discuss what i would like to se on the Sony Xperia Play 2.
Screen: 4.3 inch super amoled plus screen 1280x720 pixel resolution.
Give us three buttons like on arc.
Front camera: 2MP with 720p recording
Ear speaker: louder and clearer
Headphone jack: let us use all headphones. Dont wanna break open my beats to get them to work WTF
Stereo speakers: No change already great
Back camera: 8mp full 1080p hd recording led flash
Internal memory: 1.5GB RAM 1GB ROM 16GB flash memory
External memory: up to 64gb sdxc
Battery: Heard about new technology called 'graphene or graphite' i think thats what its called. Takes 10 MINUTES TO CHARGE! and last longer than traditional li-ion and li-plo
Batterys.
Now down to the important stuff!
CPU: quad-core 1.5GHZ
GPU: whatever is the latest and greatest GPU at the time. I dont wanna see an outed brought back to life GPU. Its good but just not cutting the mustard anymore.
I dont mind paying out for a great phone and portable gaming device. What about you leave a reply.
I think sony should take the big step with the xperia play 2 and jump into the next area of phones. Not smartphone a superphone
My opinion as a realist: No, not with such specs.
My opinion as an optimist: YESYESYESYESYESYES!!
But seriously, with playstation certificate again, and such INCREDIBLE specs, this phone would probably cost 3x more than the first Xperia PLAY cost during its launch. You should note, that Xperia PLAY is already not so popular phone (in Poland its launch price was about 1800 pln (google this price to see comparision to your currency) which in Poland is very very high price, especially for a single-core phone), also playstation games on android market are only sold about more than 1000 times so for me this phone was some sort of "phone fail" for Sony Ericsson. But if the price was much lower during launch, the support was way better (I mean FULLY WORKING playstation store) and the phone was dual-core (there were already some phones with dual-core CPU, so it wouldn't be new and also expensive), I'm sure this device would be incredibly competitive for other phones.
Anyway, I'm really proud of my Xperia PLAY, gaming is awesome, idea for joining android with psp was superb and I won't switch it for another phone, until I break it or it will die. I just love it.
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4.2" Screen OLED Cappacitive
1.5 GHZ
1GB RAM
Thinner
R2/L2 added
More PS2/PSP games.
Roughly Cost £500-789 But I'D bUY IT¬1
I'd be happy if Play 2 had the hardware of Xperia S, maybe with a better GPU.
Xperia PLAY S? lol
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Xperia PLAY S? lol
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No, this isn't Apple, silly.
Joy
Better joysticks! Not one yoy pad like now, real Working touch joysticks!
The main thing I felt needed improvement with the Play is the horrid screen, which has poor viewing angle and very weak brightness. It has to be AMOLED. Also maybe better built quality.
I don't feel Sony wants to make another one due to the emulation and the recent failure of the PSP GO. I think if they create a device like this they want revenue stream from the softwares. They have to market it as a console and it needs to play all the PSP games, but right now this device seems more like a 'competition' to the PSP than anything (think about it). They can win consumers over if they provide good service through a strong market system and a large game library. And if the games are cheap, people will more likely to buy the games then to pirate.
PS. Quadcore don't mean anything to me except excuse for raising phone prices to $1000 and more bloatwares. I'll go with an Exynos 2ghz dual core myself. More cores doesn't tell the whole story when the Apple A5X beats the Tegra 3 on the graphic side. I still don't believe highest spec should be the main focus for a gaming device like this, as odd as that might sound, that is reserved for their flagship devices, to be paired with carriers like ATT and Verizon, and it simply can't be a gaming device. For a device like this it should be the ecosystem, which there isn't a strong one for the Play compared to PSP. I don't think Sony wants or need to spend money on this niche while their PSP handheld is going strong.
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No, this isn't Apple, silly.
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They alrady did it with Arc S.
I plan to buy xperia play possibly this week or next month.
But im afraid there will be a new xperia play coming soon with higher specs.
Or there will be no xperia play 2?
I doubt it though because there already a quad core phones in the market
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i would like a quad core processor tegra 3 clocked maybe at 2ghz , at least 1 gb of dual channel ram, a 720p display, better backlight and 12 mega pixel camera
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I'm thinking xperia play 2 is 6 months to 1 year away. If you can wait that long for a new phone, then I would. Otherwise you'll get major phone envy when a new one comes out and you aren't due for an upgrade for another year past that.
ttiimm said:
i would like a quad core processor tegra 3 clocked maybe at 2ghz , at least 1 gb of dual channel ram, a 720p display, better backlight and 12 mega pixel camera
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You wish that to be on xperia play 2? That would be beast
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crono141 said:
I'm thinking xperia play 2 is 6 months to 1 year away. If you can wait that long for a new phone, then I would. Otherwise you'll get major phone envy when a new one comes out and you aren't due for an upgrade for another year past that.
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Lets see. But I'd probably wait.
What do you guys think? Is xperia play still worth to buy this year?
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Izzy Stinson said:
Lets see. But I'd probably wait.
What do you guys think? Is xperia play still worth to buy this year?
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I bougth mine this year, abou 1,5 ago and i´m very pleased with my decision.
Got mine in August and still love it to this day
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I don't care about the specs as long as they put in a bigger battery and fix the defect in the slider design.
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i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android
S4pro chipset would be best, dualcore krait with adreno 320. However i think it will probably be standard S4.
RealMcoy said:
i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android
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i'm pretty sure gameloft doesn't care about android.
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i'm pretty sure gameloft doesn't care about android.
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Gameloft cares about whatever gives them the most money, which is iOS.
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RealMcoy said:
i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android
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agreed. playing around with ipad 3 today and the graphics are like super hd
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Gameloft cares about whatever gives them the most money, which is iOS.
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enough said.
im currently using an xperia mini pro and the specs are nearly the same as play except it has smaller screen. i noticed there are many android games lag on my mini pro therefore so does the play correct?
so my point is, should i wait for a new play comes out probably a dual core processor is enought at least ir should i just buy it cos there will be no xperia play 2 this year at least???
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enough said.
im currently using an xperia mini pro and the specs are nearly the same as play except it has smaller screen. i noticed there are many android games lag on my mini pro therefore so does the play correct?
so my point is, should i wait for a new play comes out probably a dual core processor is enought at least ir should i just buy it cos there will be no xperia play 2 this year at least???
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Well, my new phone is dual-core and a lot of games perform just the same as on the play. Some are even worse. I think it depends heavily on the developers and the game itself.
The problem is that Android games in general aren't written in a very efficient way, and aren't optimized well for a wide enough range of phones. Some games run better on Qualcomm, some better on Samsung chips.. Nothing seems to be optimized across the board from what I've seen.
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i would really like to see a new Xplay be released from sony
sony ericsson really dissapointed me with the Xplay they brought out
If they're smart, they won't touch the resolution, because they should be keen enough to figure out that changing the resolution would compromise and sacrifice from the 300+ games Xperia Play already has under it's belt.
With Xperia Play already running everything buttery-smooth on it's 1GHz snapdragon, dual-core/quad-core isn't really necessary... but we all know that media outlets will assure it's publicly DOA with idiotic conjectures about how it'll be behind the curve at launch if they don't (if only the general public could see how well Xperia Play keeps up with the *beasts* like SGS2 in Android's highest-end games)... so might as well slam a spec-whore processor in there to shut them up.
Doubling or quadrupling the RAM wouldn't hurt as long as they keep their focus on quality over quantity as highly as they did by choosing the ELPIDA chip they chose this time around, and doing something about that absolutely puny internal storage would definitely aid us in the combat against Gameloft's phone storage-whoring bastards.
Otherwise, nothing should change. Bump up what needs to be bumped up without compromising what they've established.
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If they're smart, they won't touch the resolution, because they should be keen enough to figure out that changing the resolution would compromise and sacrifice from the 300+ games Xperia Play already has under it's belt.
With Xperia Play already running everything buttery-smooth on it's 1GHz snapdragon, dual-core/quad-core isn't really necessary... but we all know that media outlets will assure it's publicly DOA with idiotic conjectures about how it'll be behind the curve at launch if they don't (if only the general public could see how well Xperia Play keeps up with the *beasts* like SGS2 in Android's highest-end games)... so might as well slam a spec-whore processor in there to shut them up.
Doubling or quadrupling the RAM wouldn't hurt as long as they keep their focus on quality over quantity as highly as they did by choosing the ELPIDA chip they chose this time around, and doing something about that absolutely puny internal storage would definitely aid us in the combat against Gameloft's phone storage-whoring bastards.
Otherwise, nothing should change. Bump up what needs to be bumped up without compromising what they've established.
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It would be interesting if they did a retina display-esque exact double of the current resolution though
The display should be 720p at least, yes, it will probably break a few games, but the benefits far outweigh the cost, most of those apps will be updated for 720p, or should have been written in a way to upscale to begin with. Hardware will likely be S4 or S4pro from what I can see from Sony so far and would be a good choice in keeping compatibility with current titles.
TLR whilst your steadfast resolve in defence of the plays specs is very admirable, and I would echo them myself on occasion, updating the plays specs is a must, Sony themselves have said that they had to do a lot of rework on ics to run on phones with such low ram, whilst the play might be able to run current gen games fine, it wont have a chance at many future upcoming titles, ive played gta3 on a sgs2, ...whilst the controls are terrible, theres a massive difference in overall performance.
Most of these games run well on the play to begin with because they were built with the sgs/xplay 1ghz single core cpu/gpu in mind, because they comprise a large portion of the market, that wont be the case in 6 months, soon these phones will be relegated to the low end, and just like pcs, your phone will be too obsolete to run the current games. I havent seen any games made yet that really push the sgs2 or even higher end phones to anywhere near their potential.
Also, i would be quite happy to see the occasional lag and force kills of running apps disappear. I do agree that they need to continue the good work they have done so far, the form factor and controls are good, expandable memory, removable battery, all that jaz, all I could really ask for is proper analog sticks and larger/better positioned volume up/down for gaming doubleduty.
greetings
ZTE has unveiled its Grand X handset at an event in London this evening, is that really "best gaming smartphone ever". ??!?!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYaqTIDSWBE
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/zte-grand-x-1089430/review
on my opinion , xperia play is still on top , how can a phone be a advanced smart phone without gamepad ?! i think if we just loking for quad core or H/w , it's better to buy htc one X or galaxy s 3 .
still have hope to see xperia play 2 (( who knows ))
mehdi.moha said:
greetings
ZTE has unveiled its Grand X handset at an event in London this evening, is that really "best gaming smartphone ever". ??!?!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYaqTIDSWBE
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/zte-grand-x-1089430/review
on my opinion , xperia play is still on top , how can a phone be a advanced smart phone without gamepad ?! i think if we just loking for quad core or H/w , it's better to buy htc one X or galaxy s 3 .
still have hope to see xperia play 2 (( who knows ))
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This article has literally ZERO input on gaming, this can't be the phone they were talking about.
Already been convered, albeit not in its own thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28969789#post28969789
that looks sooooooo unresponsive the guy threw 6 punches before it registerd lol
*Watches video*
Oh wow... that looks... catastrophic.
i don't want to live in this planet anymore...
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*Watches video*
Oh wow... that looks... catastrophic.
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I liked one of the videos comments. " I fear for that guys wife @ home" made me laugh so hard I peed a little
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^ eeew yuck! hehehehe
How can anyone take ZTE seriously if they call this an advanced gaming phone!
I want a gaming phone not a WII phone
that is a Chinese phone , besides i don't think a Chinese phone can be a #1
Check out the ZTE Era it's better than this phone and Xperia Play excluding the gamepad of course lol. Before this Grand X came out the reason why I was so excited was because of the ZTE Era's specs I mean just look at that, it screams "Most Advanced Gaming Phone on the planet" if they had added a gamepad!. Disappointed...
- Internal8 GB storage, 1 GB RAM
- CameraPrimary8 MP
- ChipsetNvidia Tegra 3
- CPUQuad-core 1.3 GHz
- GPUULP GeForce
- ICS 4.0
Source: www.phonearena.com/phones/ZTE-Era_id6971
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Blessi360 said:
Check out the ZTE Era it's better than this phone and Xperia Play excluding the gamepad of course lol.
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Lol, if we want to get into that, there's likely a hundred phones out by now that have better specs than Xperia Play.
...but that "exclude the gamepad" is a very important loss. When you exclude the gamepad, you're back in the "touch-screen gaming ghetto" that keeps all the other phones held back.
This part isn't direct attack on you or anything Blessi; but on a general note, I feel that all these spec-counters are getting so wrapped up in numbers that logic escapes their thought process entirely. We can talk, hypothesize, and conceptualize about how Xperia Play's "behind the curve" all day long, but what happens in practice matters more than talking, hypothesizing, and conceptualizing (all of which fall under "guesses"). What's that mean when it still manages to run software with great performance? By the rules of the terminology, hardware that's adequate at running software is not obsolete.
So what we really have is hardware that's not bad as it is... and a gamepad bonus that's currently unparalleled by any other attempt to add hardware controls to smartphone gaming.
TLRtheory said:
Lol, if we want to get into that, there's likely a hundred phones out by now that have better specs than Xperia Play.
...but that "exclude the gamepad" is a very important loss. When you exclude the gamepad, you're back in the "touch-screen gaming ghetto" that keeps all the other phones held back.
The way I see is that all these spec-counters are getting so wrapped up in numbers that logic escapes their thought process entirely. We can talk, hypothesize, and conceptualize about how Xperia Play's "behind the curve" all day long, but what happens in practice matters more than talking, hypothesizing, and conceptualizing (all of which fall under "guesses"). What's that mean when it still manages to run software with great performance? By the rules of the terminology, hardware that's adequate at running software is not obsolete.
So what we really have is hardware that's not bad as it is... and a gamepad bonus that's currently unparalleled by any other attempt to add hardware controls to smartphone gaming.
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Dang TL, you could be a lawyer.... :laugh:
Blessi360 said:
Check out the ZTE Era it's better than this phone and Xperia Play excluding the gamepad of course lol. Before this Grand X came out the reason why I was so excited was because of the ZTE Era's specs I mean just look at that, it screams "Most Advanced Gaming Phone on the planet" if they had added a gamepad!. Disappointed...
- Internal8 GB storage, 1 GB RAM
- CameraPrimary8 MP
- ChipsetNvidia Tegra 3
- CPUQuad-core 1.3 GHz
- GPUULP GeForce
- ICS 4.0
Source: www.phonearena.com/phones/ZTE-Era_id6971
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The one x is better.
Sorry for my bad English. It's not my native language.
why is the one x better?
Already moved over thread to General forums regarding the "killer new amazing, etc. etc. etc." "Gaming phone" from ZTE.
Continue your comments in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768305
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