I just rooted this morning and went to make a back up of my stock rom, it took like 10-15 minutes. Is this normal for the Dinc 2? I have rooted other phones and (Eris and Fascinate) made backups and they didn't usually take quite that long.
That's within the realm of normal, depending on how much there was to backup.
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I just rooted this morning and went to make a back up of my stock rom, it took like 10-15 minutes. Is this normal for the Dinc 2? I have rooted other phones and (Eris and Fascinate) made backups and they didn't usually take quite that long.
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How long a nandroid back-up depends on the amount of data that is on the ROM to "back-up". The more apps the longer it will take. Also, I agree with above, that's a normal time.
That explains it I had alot of apps. just wanted to make sure my recovery was acting normal.Thank you both very much.
Just as important after a successful & completed backup - is to restore & test it as stored on the mSD card, before putting it away or moving to standalone "vault" location.
Yup the backups can be time consuming, but if you check the size of your backup, you'll find they can be pretty large... Mine range anywhere from 800 mbs to 1 gig.
Yeah, my backups seem to take around 10 minutes. The longest part is when it's backing up .android_secure, which I'm pretty sure is where all my sdcard-installed apps reside.
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I've searched for answers to these questions and I'm sure they exist but with how busy this forum is, it's tough to find answers. Sorry if these have been asked and answered. AT&T at my house has become nearly unusable at times so I'm considering trying Sprint. Having a Captivate and an unusable GPS (and no interest in a physical keyboard) I'm leaning towards the EVO.
1. How easy is it to brick or break the EVO? I'm pretty careful but the Captivate is nearly unbrickable. Just wondering how much more careful I need to be.
2. Is it easy (possible?) to fully restore the EVO back to stock everything, unrooted, if I decide to return it or have to do a warranty exchange?
3. I know it's a long shot but any former Captivate owners (or perhaps Epic owners) that can offer a comparison of battery life?
4. How long does it take to fully charge from 10% battery remaining? I know that sounds like a silly question but one thing I (and others have noticed) regarding the Galaxy S phones is they take a really long time to charge. The battery life isn't great, so I feel like I'm always trying to plug my phone in because it's slow to charge but fast to drain.
5. Not EVO specific, but as many of you may have switched from a previous Android phone to an EVO, does Titanium Backup move from one device to another? In other words, if I move my titaniumbackup folder from my Captivate running Froyo to an EVO running a custom ROM (say, Fresh), would it restore apps and data (NOT system data necessarily) correctly? Captivate is my first Android phone so I've never tried...
1. How easy is it to brick or break the EVO? I'm pretty careful but the Captivate is nearly unbrickable. Just wondering how much more careful I need to be.
Pretty difficult. 99 times out of 100 if you screw something up, there is a way to fix it.
2. Is it easy (possible?) to fully restore the EVO back to stock everything, unrooted, if I decide to return it or have to do a warranty exchange?
Absolutely. It's really easy to do too. Search the development forum, there is a thread there that details how to do it.
3. I know it's a long shot but any former Captivate owners (or perhaps Epic owners) that can offer a comparison of battery life?
I do not have a way to compare, but I put a fresh battery in my EVO yesterday morning, used it moderately throughout the day and still have 40% battery life.
4. How long does it take to fully charge from 10% battery remaining? I know that sounds like a silly question but one thing I (and others have noticed) regarding the Galaxy S phones is they take a really long time to charge. The battery life isn't great, so I feel like I'm always trying to plug my phone in because it's slow to charge but fast to drain.
Not sure. I don't ever plug it in to charge, I use a spare battery charger. I have 5 batteries so when one dies, I put a fresh one in.
5. Not EVO specific, but as many of you may have switched from a previous Android phone to an EVO, does Titanium Backup move from one device to another? In other words, if I move my titaniumbackup folder from my Captivate running Froyo to an EVO running a custom ROM (say, Fresh), would it restore apps and data (NOT system data necessarily) correctly? Captivate is my first Android phone so I've never tried...
I'd imagine it would work fine. i used Titanium to restore a ****load of my own apps (free ones, of course) onto my buddy's phone and it worked fine. I would stay away from trying to restore the system data though.
evancg said:
1. How easy is it to brick or break the EVO? I'm pretty careful but the Captivate is nearly unbrickable. Just wondering how much more careful I need to be.
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It isn't easy to brick the Evo, but it isn't as brick proof as the captivate.
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2. Is it easy (possible?) to fully restore the EVO back to stock everything, unrooted, if I decide to return it or have to do a warranty exchange?
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Much easier than the Captivate, in my opinion (odin sucks). I had to unroot my wife's Captivate recently because she was having the random shut down issue. After dinking around with Odin for way to long I finally ended up nandroid restoring her original stock jf6, through clockwork, that I made immediately after rooting, and then using one click unroot.
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3. I know it's a long shot but any former Captivate owners (or perhaps Epic owners) that can offer a comparison of battery life?
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My Evo seems to get slightly better battery life (Running Fresh 3.3.0.1) than my wife's Captivate does with rooted JF6. That said, I have had my Evo for 3 months and have learned how to set it up to get best battery life, whereas with my wife's Cappy, I only dink with it when she is having a problem. I suspect that if I worked with her phone a bit the battery life could be a bit better than the Evo.
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4. How long does it take to fully charge from 10% battery remaining? I know that sounds like a silly question but one thing I (and others have noticed) regarding the Galaxy S phones is they take a really long time to charge. The battery life isn't great, so I feel like I'm always trying to plug my phone in because it's slow to charge but fast to drain.
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We both charge our phones at night, so I can't say which takes longer, but my Evo takes about 1-2 hours to get full charge from less than 10% left.
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5. Not EVO specific, but as many of you may have switched from a previous Android phone to an EVO, does Titanium Backup move from one device to another? In other words, if I move my titaniumbackup folder from my Captivate running Froyo to an EVO running a custom ROM (say, Fresh), would it restore apps and data (NOT system data necessarily) correctly?
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I don't know, I have copied some apps between our phones, but always installed them manually. My guess is TB might work for some apps and not for others. I personally wouldn't do it that way.
how long does it usually take when first performing a backup?
idk, between 3 and 5 minutes
There is way to many options to answer this. It can take 2-3 minutes and some have reported 20+ minutes. It depends on what you select to backup, what recovery you are using, card speed, even how much stuff you have on your phone.
What if it takes over an hour???
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What if it takes over an hour???
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Make a sandwich?
What ROM and what recovery?
Do you have a lot of apps?
Do they have a lot of data?
Do you have a class 2 card?
Does it have enough room?
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Make a sandwich? Had one earlier.
Im new to this so be kind to me...
What ROM and what recovery? mikfroyo v4.4 - Nandroid
Do you have a lot of apps? Not many since i did a fresh flash
Do they have a lot of data? no
Do you have a class 2 card? not sure
Does it have enough room? If it doesnt then what?
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Now that i think about it i left my back ups on my card when i did my flash to mikfroyo and didnt not delete them when i moved it to my pc. Is there away to stop it? and will it mess up my phone? Thanks in advance!
You can pull the battery. That's about the only option you have mid-backup. Not sure how dangerous that is though. I'd let it run its course if it were me.
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I pulled the battery.. Was scared but it was taking along time. So far so good.. Thanks!!
XDA app on mikfroyo v4.4
You can pull the battery if its taking an obnoxiously long time. Normally 3-5 minutes...but it could be a bit longer depending on like others said, card speed, the amount of data, and how much data. So try to be patient.
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You can pull the battery if its taking an obnoxiously long time. Normally 3-5 minutes...but it could be a bit longer depending on like others said, card speed, the amount of data, and how much data. So try to be patient.
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Trust me i was, but when it was close to 2 hrs to back up i took the chance and nothing went wrong..
Testing out different ROMs to see what suites me. I really like mikfroyo v4.4, next going to try MIUI EVO 1.1.28 and going to read around on how to update my kernal aswell.
Thanks for the help everyone!
Shoot... I just had the same thing happen and searched 20 different ways for a thread like this and never saw it...
I left mine workin for about 1.5 hours and then decided to pull the battery, everything seems ok for now... So I just cleaned off my SD card and am tryin another B/U..
That's what I did last night was moved all my backup's on to my pc. Will do another backup tonight.. Phone still working...
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pardon my fng-ness. it's been awhile since i've thought about any of this stuff, and i only read and learned enough the first time a few months back to be dangerous. and, well, annoying, i'm sure.
so, i've got 2 evo 4g's, one rooted, one stock. the one that's rooted now has a usb charge port issue - it will not charge because the port slides too far into the phone. neither phone had been updated to the latest sprint my question is, if i do a back up via nandroid or titanium, can i save that file on the pc, move it to the stock evo, flash it and have the unrooted evo now magically be a mirror image (including root status) of the one i need to take in for service?
as i write this i am now starting to realize probably not, but it's worth asking.
thanks.
n/m. if i can't charge the damn phone, i certainly can't transfer files from it. grrr....
I don't recommend using a nandroid on a different phone. You can restore your apps from titanium backup, just not system apps. There's too many differences between phones.
"We're coming from a pure power source."
A minor note.. If once evo charges, why not charge both batteries with that one to get your other up and running...
And try to get my root backup or titanium to backup the files for you.
i've actually got the two evo's and an Anker charger/backup battery, so i've always got a fresh battery. but...i'm in sales and always on the phone (or surfing between calls, thanks ADD!), so i'm always needing to swap batteries. i could keep going on like that, but prefer to have everything working properly.
I have two EVOS my wife and I, I should say and yes I have very readily swapped nandroids back and forth like nothing. Even when both systems were running diffrent OTAs but both phones were rooted. My advice is root the other phone load the broken phone nandriod on to the good phone SD card and run recovery on the good phone. Also... Back up the existing nandriod on your computer (just in case)
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What could possibly poison an Epic 4G's system speed across the stock ROM and 2 custom ROMs?
Like this...
I'm on my second Epic 4G, got a used one off eBay about a month ago when the screen on my first one died.
On my first one, I rooted it, upgraded to Clean GB, then eventually moved it to cm-10.1.3.1.
The used one came stock, but ran extremely slowly. No problem - I've seen that happen before with my old phone (I call it sloth mode) and knew that installing a new ROM would resolve it. Just to be conservative, I bumped it up along the same path I did before, Clean GB, then cm-10-1.3.1.
Here's the thing. After installing a new ROM, both phones would operate normally. But no matter which ROM ran on the old phone and the replacement, *eventually* it would slip back into sloth mode. I don't mean sluggish, I mean crawling, even during the bootup animation. Even the CWM recovery menu was sluggish.
When I ran Clean GB on the replacement phone, I didn't add more than 2 or 3 apps to it after installing. But it still fell back to sloth mode after about a week of use. After installing cm-10.1.3.1, it only lasted a 3-4 days before sloth mode returned.
Before changing ROMs, I routinely did a factory reset, cleared cache and Dalvik cache.
Of course a virus is a possibilty, but having security apps installed and running didn't seem to make any difference. Could this be a rootkit-class issue?
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What could possibly poison an Epic 4G's system speed across the stock ROM and 2 custom ROMs?
Like this...
I'm on my second Epic 4G, got a used one off eBay about a month ago when the screen on my first one died.
On my first one, I rooted it, upgraded to Clean GB, then eventually moved it to cm-10.1.3.1.
The used one came stock, but ran extremely slowly. No problem - I've seen that happen before with my old phone (I call it sloth mode) and knew that installing a new ROM would resolve it. Just to be conservative, I bumped it up along the same path I did before, Clean GB, then cm-10-1.3.1.
Here's the thing. After installing a new ROM, both phones would operate normally. But no matter which ROM ran on the old phone and the replacement, *eventually* it would slip back into sloth mode. I don't mean sluggish, I mean crawling, even during the bootup animation. Even the CWM recovery menu was sluggish.
When I ran Clean GB on the replacement phone, I didn't add more than 2 or 3 apps to it after installing. But it still fell back to sloth mode after about a week of use. After installing cm-10.1.3.1, it only lasted a 3-4 days before sloth mode returned.
Before changing ROMs, I routinely did a factory reset, cleared cache and Dalvik cache.
Of course a virus is a possibilty, but having security apps installed and running didn't seem to make any difference. Could this be a rootkit-class issue?
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Could it be a failing processor? I had one that went into that mode and never came back...no matter what it would take 20 times longer to boot...boot animation was like beyond slow motion. Best thing to do at this point is to just odin stock and leave it that way for a week...no extra apps or restore and see how it does.
Worth a try...
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Could it be a failing processor? I had one that went into that mode and never came back...no matter what it would take 20 times longer to boot...boot animation was like beyond slow motion. Best thing to do at this point is to just odin stock and leave it that way for a week...no extra apps or restore and see how it does.
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Yeah, it's worth a try. I've also wondered if I slipped up and installed a version of Clean GB or cm-10-1.3.1 that jumped betweeen MTD and BML file formats. I know it could cause problems, but I don't know if it could cause the specifc trouble I had.
Phone's been parked in a drawer for a month since I posted the question. Will odin back to stock and see how it works out.
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Yeah, it's worth a try. I've also wondered if I slipped up and installed a version of Clean GB or cm-10-1.3.1 that jumped betweeen MTD and BML file formats. I know it could cause problems, but I don't know if it could cause the specifc trouble I had.
Phone's been parked in a drawer for a month since I posted the question. Will odin back to stock and see how it works out.
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I just hooked one of my old ones up to freedompop through the BYOD program. Nice to see the old girl getting use at least as an emergency phone.
The note 4 will be my first phone that I order before it's even out. So this is my first time I'll have to not root my phone.. obviously once I'm rooted I can use titanium back up, but if there's not a root method right away, what should I back up my data on? I've tried the built in back up, but it never backs up my data for my apps. So is there a titanium like back up for non rooted users?
Ummm, there will probably be root the night it comes out, or at the most a couple days. What I've always done on launch day phones is play around with the OS as is. Than when root came, put everything how I actually want it to be. But this will be my first Samsung phone of any kind, so I might just play around with TW for a few weeks and than make my mind up. Just my take on it.
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Ummm, there will probably be root the night it comes out, or at the most a couple days. What I've always done on launch day phones is play around with the OS as is. Than when root came, put everything how I actually want it to be. But this will be my first Samsung phone of any kind, so I might just play around with TW for a few weeks and than make my mind up. Just my take on it.
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TW roms are a lot better than the stock TW imo stock TW sux