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Easy rooting with 'Simple Root' (EVO 4G) - Also possible for Desire?

I am sorry if this should have been posted in general, but I think it has to do with development.
I just found some info about a program called 'Simple root', currently only for the Evo 4G. From what I have read it is a program to root your device with just a few clicks (so noob proof).
I wanted to notify you about this, first of all. Second, do you guys think it is possible to make something like this for the Desire? Or does the one for Evo also work for the Desire?
I am really a biiiiig NOOB regarding rooting etc, so this would be perfect for me. And I think a lot of other noobs would be happy as well.
Again, sorry if I did something wrong here (duplicate thread, wrong section, etc)
Kind Regards, Mark
Edit: THE LINK down below
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411

that would be too awesome

Honestly, I'm sorry, but what's the point? The current methods are easy enough - if you can't (not saying you, just someone generally) can't follow those, I can see a few stupid threads coming up:
i tried 2 root my desire bt it sed it failed wot do i do
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And they'll be clueless as to how to extract debugging messages. I may be alone in my opinion, but I thought I'd share it

jayshah said:
Honestly, I'm sorry, but what's the point? The current methods are easy enough - if you can't (not saying you, just someone generally) can't follow those, I can see a few stupid threads coming up:
And they'll be clueless as to how to extract debugging messages. I may be alone in my opinion, but I thought I'd share it
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i second that

jayshah said:
Honestly, I'm sorry, but what's the point? The current methods are easy enough - if you can't (not saying you, just someone generally) can't follow those, I can see a few stupid threads coming up:
And they'll be clueless as to how to extract debugging messages. I may be alone in my opinion, but I thought I'd share it
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Yeah, it should be kept as elitist as possible. I think only people with 10 years coding experience and a self compiled version of their own linux kernal should be allowed to root their phones.
Seriously, come on. Making it friendly is not a bad idea. I know what I'm doing, and I'd still rather press 1 button over all other current options. It makes no difference because I had no trouble following rooting instructions from r1 up to r6. I just think simpler is better.

jayshah said:
Honestly, I'm sorry, but what's the point? The current methods are easy enough - if you can't (not saying you, just someone generally) can't follow those, I can see a few stupid threads coming up:
And they'll be clueless as to how to extract debugging messages. I may be alone in my opinion, but I thought I'd share it
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Dude, 1-click root is a better method than buying 3/4 sd cards to create a gold card. Whenever a better solution/design comes up, people leave the old stuff behind.

unclesomebody said:
Yeah, it should be kept as elitist as possible. I think only people with 10 years coding experience and a self compiled version of their own linux kernal should be allowed to root their phones.
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maybe not this pro but if someone is rooting a phone, that person should know a little bit about what he is doing. its not rocketscience, every body can learn it, but if we start making stupid-one-klick-iam-an-idiot-rooting than no one will try to learn it.....

i agree with last post but....
nowhere in development does it even explain what things like dalvik cache or kernels actually. i reckon alot of people here into flashing and tinkering with their phones are just following instructions. ie there's a difference between a qualified mechanic and someone that messes around under the bonnet at the weekend.
in terms of rooting i found this guide the most useful, it has all the files you need and has a VIDEO walkthrough. SIMPLE really SIMPLE. requires no linux, coding or anything.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-root-the-htc-desire/

tuntang said:
nowhere in development does it even explain what things like dalvik cache or kernels actually.
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XDA is a resource, a good resource is that, but it is not complete. Even Wikipedia is not complete, if you think about it.
Copying everything to one place will just cause redundant (and possibly outdated) information. Let the people who know what they're talking about, do so (i.e. Cyanogen).
unclesomebody said:
Yeah, it should be kept as elitist as possible. I think only people with 10 years coding experience and a self compiled version of their own linux kernal should be allowed to root their phones.
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I can't even tell if your misspelling of "kernel" is intentional.
unclesomebody said:
Seriously, come on. Making it friendly is not a bad idea. I know what I'm doing, and I'd still rather press 1 button over all other current options. It makes no difference because I had no trouble following rooting instructions from r1 up to r6. I just think simpler is better.
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So the current version is unfriendly? Another reason against making this process wholly autonomous is that you'd then have to waste someone else's time writing an application to fix the USB issues, because there's going to be people who got used to the easy of a giant button labelled "Click here to root" so now do not know what adb is.
Simplification can cause loss of information. Suppose the case comes around where the program crashes in a rare event, but the adb connection stays open. It's also far too cumbersome to catch every error, such as an invalid goldcard or the SD card being out of space. If the rooting process was a kernel exploit, this wouldn't be a problem. See below.
mr.r9 said:
Dude, 1-click root is a better method than buying 3/4 sd cards to create a gold card. Whenever a better solution/design comes up, people leave the old stuff behind.
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This is a completely different argument. You have assumed there is a 1-click rooting method available, which there isn't (yet). The only way your argument would hold is if there was a kernel exploit available currently that gave you root, but you only got it uncompiled and had to do the legwork yourself - which isn't the case. The actual argument was about converting the existing method to a few clicks as possible.

It's easy enough as is. We're not iPhone users after all, we don't need big shiny buttons to understand

starchildx said:
maybe not this pro but if someone is rooting a phone, that person should know a little bit about what he is doing. its not rocketscience, every body can learn it, but if we start making stupid-one-klick-iam-an-idiot-rooting than no one will try to learn it.....
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this is true - but there are developers and there are consumers.
anything that represents 'progress' should be seriously looked at.
I think fake-flash is just one excellent example where something that wasn't especially complicated in the first has been made way simpler.....

My reply was deleted?
Current method is easy enough. We need FULL root, easy way or not =)

cr1960 said:
this is true - but there are developers and there are consumers.
anything that represents 'progress' should be seriously looked at.
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Sure,but i think there are more important things to do than making a 1-click-root.

starchildx said:
Sure,but i think there are more important things to do than making a 1-click-root.
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There always will be something more important than something else, but it's in no way an argument against doing it.

Hiya. I need some expert advice

Soo.... I have had android phones for about year. Now I have the epic and I love it a lot.., but I'm hearing about rooting and ROM'S and all this other stuff... What is it? And by doing these things will I damage my device.? I need to be clued in big time.

well before you get dinged for posting this let me try and give a link that may shed some light
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700

Well... that guide on what everything was helped a little bit but it was all kinda confusing seeing as I'm new to the terms and whatnot. It basically sounds dangerous though and if I accidentally "brick" my phone I am going to die what are the positives of rooting my phone? And also, why would I get dinged fo posting this???

Cuz is posted 1000 times and u need to do your homework and start reading starting with 1click root is your best bet. And don't be afraid this phone is almost impossible to brick like I said almost and good luck.
dito33
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Geminispirit said:
And also, why would I get dinged fo posting this???
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Because technically this is supposed to be a developers board. They want you to learn the basics elsewhere and come here to develop new software.
And also we have people asking "what are root and roms" pretty much every other day. And then new people come and don't bother to read the threads that already answer their questions or use the search to find answers. Instead, they expect someone to start giving them the answers from scratch all over again.

Geminispirit said:
if I accidentally "brick" my phone I am going to die
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If you can't afford to be without your phone for a day or can't afford to replace the phone if it becomes damaged, then do NOT mess with it.
Most circumstances all this is harmless/recoverable, but if the phone is a necessity (or not yours, ie parents), I wouldn't mess with it.
The only thing more annoying that seeing 50 post threads consisting of 48 people commenting on "wrong section" is threads from people that just messed up their parents phone and -now- it's an emergency.

Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798067
That should cover pretty much everything you need to know to get started and research stuff on your own.

Ummm thanks to everyone? I appreciate the advice and I'll try to figure this out. I'm just a newbie here (obviously) and I didn't know the ropes about how to find out "basic" info... Thanks for the links that were posted as well. Also, for the person who said something about this being my parents phone...? This is my phone.... and I paid a lot to get it and I don't want to damage it
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Ohh... and also I just believe I'm going to leave my phone as it is... I don't see the positive benefits of rooting it. Plus I don't want to damage anything
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

That's probably a good idea. You shouldn't make any major changes to your phone if you don't understand what you are changing.

Oh yeah, no benefits whatsoever
WHY SHOULD I ROOT MY PHONE?
Rooting offers several great things including, but certainly not limited to, access to hidden features, total customization, better battery life, and overclocking. It gives you control over the device that you paid money for in the first place. The devs here are great at finding features that the manufacturers left out or disabled and making them work.
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wj0t said:
Oh yeah, no benefits whatsoever
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Lol... that sounds cool and whatnot but in the end, I just not that technologically wise.. but I do appreciate the people who are if I knew as much as them, i'd probably try the whole rooting thing
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Root my Verizon galaxy nexus

Is there some type of service where you can bring your phone in and they upgrade your Verizon GNex to 4.1? I live in the south Tampa Bay area. I am tired of being a pawn for Verizon to play with. Thanks. Having a nexus device has not been what I thought it would be.

Just learn how to root and upgrade it yourself, that's 95% of the purpose of this phone IMO.

Thanks....But
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Just learn how to root and upgrade it yourself, that's 95% of the purpose of this phone IMO.
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I understand that is possible to do it. I would rather have someone walk me through it in front of me. People pay me for my expertise and I respect other people for theirs.

There's no service and 4.1 won't officially be ready for vzw gnex for months. There's plenty of well thought out and put together walkthroughs - even one click methods. Droid-life's guide is extremely easy to follow, as are several threads here. I'd recommend using a manual method though so you better understand what rooting and unlocking are actually doing.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app

If you really aren't comfortable doing so...
My guide is a great start.
If you read through that and are still confused...
I can TeamView to your computer and get it done for you while you watch.
It'd have to be late at night..
I get off at 1:30 mountain standard.
Or the weekend at any time.
http://www.teamviewer.com/
Send me a PM if you like to do that.

You'd be better off OP finding someone on here to teamview you like it was suggested and getting you there that way if you want JB.
There is no service, as someone else also said, just people on CL who might offer to do it for you, but yet again, they might be amateur at best and charge you unnecessary amounts of money.

I assure you I know what I'm doing.
And I've TeamViewed numerous people to help them root or "unbrick" their phones.
No charge...and I help you learn along the way.
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And we'll back up your applications and such along the way so you lose as little as possible.

Jubakuba, Where do I get your guide?

Jubakuba, I have a mac at home, does that matter?

nixrob9 said:
Jubakuba, I have a mac at home, does that matter?
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Guide is the exact same. Just use Terminal instead of Command Line and type "./" in front of all of the commands. For example:
Code:
./adb devices

still confused
Jubakuba said:
If you really aren't comfortable doing so...
My guide is a great start.
If you read through that and are still confused...
I can TeamView to your computer and get it done for you while you watch.
It'd have to be late at night..
I get off at 1:30 mountain standard.
Or the weekend at any time.
http://www.teamviewer.com/
Send me a PM if you like to do that.
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I have read a TON of articles and none of them are written in a way i can truly understand what i am doing. I have a mac and want SIMPLE, STEP by STEP instructions. I cannot find it. In all examples there are assumptions the reader knows what they are talking about and lack of clarification on how the mac instructions are different from windows. If so many people can do it, why can't someone just layout the steps for doing it. The reason most people wait for the OTA is because it is not a straightforward process.

nixrob9 said:
Is there some type of service where you can bring your phone in and they upgrade your Verizon GNex to 4.1? I live in the south Tampa Bay area. I am tired of being a pawn for Verizon to play with. Thanks. Having a nexus device has not been what I thought it would be.
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Bro, nexii are easiest hassle free device to root.
Then again I don't argue with my friends giving me money. ^_^
They bring in there androids to me for upgrading and rooting.
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If I have helped you.... hit that sexy thanks button. ^_^

nixrob9 said:
I have read a TON of articles and none of them are written in a way i can truly understand what i am doing. I have a mac and want SIMPLE, STEP by STEP instructions. I cannot find it. In all examples there are assumptions the reader knows what they are talking about and lack of clarification on how the mac instructions are different from windows. If so many people can do it, why can't someone just layout the steps for doing it. The reason most people wait for the OTA is because it is not a straightforward process.
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a)
The FEAR is making you weary. Don't be afraid to get your feet wet.
b)
As they've said...
./ before all commands = working for mac.
Again, I could TeamView you.
But I get the feeling you wouldn't be the type to learn anything...
Probably walk away and make yourself a cup of coffee while I work.

Jubakuba said:
I assure you I know what I'm doing.
And I've TeamViewed numerous people to help them root or "unbrick" their phones.
No charge...and I help you learn along the way.
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And we'll back up your applications and such along the way so you lose as little as possible.
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I apologize for butting in but wow, that is extremely nice of you.

I'm sure everyone here is trying to help you, but everything cannot be handed on a silver platter. It will take some work and leaving but the nexus is the easiest to root/customize. Like I said, droid-life is probably the easiest guide to follow, as straight forward as it gets. There's a reason there's no official service for what you want to do.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app

Dragonsclawaresharp tutorial for testpoint method

Any help guys with this..
After I "Browse my computer for driver software" I cant find "USBFlash_driver"
I have downloaded the file... I can open it..... but do I have to shift it somewhere after I download it?
Stumped again!! Goldfish material....round and round and round

You could have just asked on the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730874

A right thats it posted on that site... how do i delete this post?
Plenty of people on here quick enough to tell us what we are doing wrong... pity it wasnt the same with some of the answers that we are
REALLY NEEDING.
Anyway is there something that us new folks on here can read to help us get it right, rather than getting replys of this nature all the time....

moff1 said:
Plenty of people on here quick enough to tell us what we are doing wrong... pity it wasnt the same with some of the answers that we are
REALLY NEEDING.
Anyway is there something that us new folks on here can read to help us get it right, rather than getting replys of this nature all the time....
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Watch...
Read - Why you get short/one word answers! (The Long Answer)

Been through all that stuff already...
As I have said before... why go to all the bother of posting the same stuff again and again?
I have spent the last 3 weeks looking around from site to site picking up bits here and there then eventually back to where I have started... albeit a little bit wiser...
I'm obviously missing something here...
Replying with this is as bad as spam.!... I have seen it on umpteen posts, over and over again, like a broken record.
If I had spent more time on the zx spectrum and the bbc which we had in 5th year before i left school I would not need to come on to this site..ha ha. but as we were not as lucky as you lot help is something that is greatly appreciated!
Rather than gloating how good I was, I would be coming on here to help rather than to belittle... otherwise what is the point of being a senior member with all this knowledge.
But this is something that comes with age... As we get older we realise....
Some day you will look back at yourself and think to yourself.
You will remember this post or some other that someone will surely post when frustrated with replys like this.

Read why you get short answers, because your lengthy reply clearly shows you haven't, and give the video another watch too, then you might understand why your thread about an existing thread is highly annoying.
Sent from my CM9'd Arc

Once again more annoying spam..
What is your point?, going, I quote ROUND AND ROUND every other post with this spam...
Every one I look on there is somebody like me trying to get on this exciting boat ride.... and there is you with your video again and again
It is no wonder why most of them give up!
Once again I write a long answer.... as you have obviously got a chip on your shoulders
Has someone upset you and you need to take it out on your computer at us newbees
you need to get a life
"Thanks for all your help"
another quote that you seem to get a lot..... not

moff1 said:
Once again more annoying spam..
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It's called a reply to your post actually.
moff1 said:
What is your point?, going, I quote ROUND AND ROUND every other post with this spam...
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One day you might learn, but clearly not yet.
moff1 said:
Every one I look on there is somebody like me trying to get on this exciting boat ride.... and there is you with your video again and again
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900+ Thanks says otherwise.
moff1 said:
It is no wonder why most of them give up!
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Quite a few take the hint and grasp the point of XDA, then you get People like yourself who don't, and if you can't follow a simple tutorial that even has pictures, then you might as well give up.
moff1 said:
you need to get a life
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Do People still actually use that phrase, I guess so eh.
moff1 said:
"Thanks for all your help"
another quote that you seem to get a lot..... not
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As you can clearly see I've had quite a few.

Now you see how short a life you have had, when you have to use other peoples words...
And as for grasping things...The point...
Follow a simple thing and get so far and thats it..
Point.. We are here to learn, not just to have a phone... better than everyone else!!!
I, believe it or not am trying to learn but that is why we ask questions, albeit, stupid ones to you lot in the know!
Even the best of us will have to eventually ask a stupid question... It comes to us all... you will remember this!
You are so much in the know, then answer the question that I started with...
As most of the people that get through this initial test seem to be more helpful..
Maybe one day I will be able to help someone new as there will always be
And be a bit more constructive.

Try putting the same energy in to re reading the guide as you do with these argumentative posts and you might get somewhere.
Sent from my CM9'd Arc

Looking at these posts I can see and have learnt quite a lot actually...
It dosent take a lot to work out that if one neewbe gives you 10 thanks, as I have, for thinking and being polite that somebody actually replied,
do a bit of multiplication and you soon realise... 900 thanks doesnt actually say a lot....
especially if what you are sending people work done by somebody else....
I, after 3 weeks could go from page to page looking for newbees and feed them this stuff... the same stuff over and over again.
Since all you are doing is this, can, as I see, you never seem to answer any questions directly.
Which to me implys that you are no better than us newbees really.... unless you can prove otherwise... but I very much doubt.

moff1 said:
Since all you are doing is this, can, as I see, you never seem to answer any questions directly.
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I've been directly helping People since I owned an X10, but as you're new you won't know that, you also don't have access to my PM's, so don't see the lengths I've gone to in them to help.
moff1 said:
Which to me implys that you are no better than us newbees really.... unless you can prove otherwise... but I very much doubt.
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Some People can't be helped, and you're a prime example of that. I see why People could get confused with a text guide, but when it's got images too and People still can't grasp it, well.

Ha ha, once again..
I rest my case.

moff1 said:
Ha ha, once again..
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Perhaps you don't understand what the "quote" feature is for on forums. Anyway, let us know when you figure out your issue.

I'm sure I will...one day.

[Q] rooting

plz tell me hw to root htc desire with htc quik rooter.i tried to root but a notification root command is missing

sandeepbkurup said:
plz tell me hw to root htc desire with htc quik rooter.i tried to root but a notification root command is missing
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The only game in town for the DHD is the Advanced Ace Hack Kit. Don't use any other tool. Find all the information you need here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379&page=1
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sandeepbkurup said:
plz tell me hw to root htc desire with htc quik rooter.i tried to root but a notification root command is missing
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Please use Advanced ACE Hack Kit it will downgrade your radio and then it will root your device with S-off after that your ready to install any ROM you like.

GLADS said:
Please use Advanced ACE Hack Kit it will downgrade your radio and then it will root your device with S-off after that your ready to install any ROM you like.
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Dude, I know you want to help but it's starting to get annoying seeing that your answering the same thing members before you have already replied.
You gotta practice those refresh skills more.
Sent from a dream.

GLADS said:
Please use Advanced ACE Hack Kit it will downgrade your radio and then it will root your device with S-off after that your ready to install any ROM you like.
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Teichopsia said:
Dude, I know you want to help but it's starting to get annoying seeing that your answering the same thing members before you have already replied.
You gotta practice those refresh skills more.
Sent from a dream.
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And besides what you are saying is not quite accurate, so you'd better study a bit more what the Hack Kit involves.

glevitan said:
And besides what you are saying is not quite accurate, so you'd better study a bit more what the Hack Kit involves.
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Coffee hasn't kicked in yet
Sent from a dream.

Teichopsia said:
Coffee hasn't kicked in yet
Sent from a dream.
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LOL...I have reported the user already. It seems that posting nonsense is his hobby.

glevitan said:
LOL...I have reported the user already. It seems that posting nonsense is his hobby.
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Awww, come on... He is only trying to be helpful. All he needs is a little guidance. He does have a couple posts helping a few people with replacing the cam.apk
Where did he get it no idea - but he is trying to help.
Sent from a dream.

Teichopsia said:
Dude, I know you want to help but it's starting to get annoying seeing that your answering the same thing members before you have already replied.
You gotta practice those refresh skills more.
Sent from a dream.
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When I entered this topic there was no post so I clicked reply. I just typed a few words and I got a call. so I was paused in between.
By the time I submitted. there was another post by some 1.
glevitan said:
LOL...I have reported the user already. It seems that posting nonsense is his hobby.
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For the very 1st time I was afraid to do all this rooting and etc. One Day I finally decided to root and install custom ROM. I was even worried what if I bricked my device as it was still under warranty. Just 3 months had past. I was upset because I didn't get an official ICS update.
But I promised myself that if I root and install custom ROM successfully then I would surly help others.
Whatever I know I just answer it and what I don't I just ignore.
If you still think I am wrong then Report it.
I might not be an old member here But I made this promise to myself to help others if I can Because there was a time where I was standing at their place.

Not trying to pick a fight buddy. This is not the first thread you do it in, that's all I'm saying. You are o.k. in my book. Keep it up and don't let these two old grinches dampen your spirits. I did put in my 'no coffee disclaimer'.
Sent from a dream.

Teichopsia said:
Not trying to pick a fight buddy. This is not the first thread you do it in, that's all I'm saying. You are o.k. in my book. Keep it up and don't let these two old grinches dampen your spirits. I did put in my 'no coffee disclaimer'.
Sent from a dream.
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No Bro we are not fighting and I am not taking you wrong in any ways.
I forgive and forget :victory:
I would only say your always right and I'm might be wrong. I respect senior members
Might be your right from your side but I try to give my opinion on what I have experienced.

GLADS said:
No Bro we are not fighting and I am not taking you wrong in any ways.
I forgive and forget :victory:
I would only say your always right and I'm might be wrong. I respect senior members
Might be your right from your side but I try to give my opinion on what I have experienced.
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GLADS, I am in no way trying to pick a fight. I am just saying that having 55 posts you should know that to help peope out you have to point them in the right direction. Saying always "...the Hack Kit..." does not help anyone.
Also saying: "...you should have had a hard time..." does not either. If you really want to help, then point people in the right directions, provide links, explain how to do things. We all came here as noobs, but some still after 300 posts. The difference is who wants to learn and listens to other users and who doesn´t.

glevitan said:
GLADS, I am in no way trying to pick a fight. I am just saying that having 55 posts you should know that to help peope out you have to point them in the right direction. Saying always "...the Hack Kit..." does not help anyone.
Also saying: "...you should have had a hard time..." does not either. If you really want to help, then point people in the right directions, provide links, explain how to do things. We all came here as noobs, but some still after 300 posts. The difference is who wants to learn and listens to other users and who doesn´t.
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Okay Bro. I will keep that in my mind. Thanks