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When Will The Evo Have A Super Simple Root App?

Looking at how easy and dumb proof they made the jailbreak for iOS 4, I'm not going to lie. I wish it was that simple on the Evo. You'd think that since Android is a stronger programming community, in my opinion, that we'd have a better mouse trap.
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=10943
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The hell? It's easy enough as it is.
If in doubt go watch this

How much simpler do people need it to be ?
Move a few files to if sdcard a dew commands and boom done
sent with my evo from a secret place

Besides, if you can't figure out how to do a few command lines and drop files on the SD card, I don't think you have any business rooting, since you will likely screw something up. Most of the stuff you use root for will require some of these skills, and they are potentially more harmful if you do them wrong than when trying to gain root access. Gaining root access isn't very hard or even that dangerous. Flashing stuff and messing with low level system stuff is.

Try doing a search for simple root. That might be what you are looking for.
You will need to install USB drivers though.

locutis78 said:
Try doing a search for simple root. That might be what you are looking for.
You will need to install USB drivers though.
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+1....easy rooting...
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superlinkx said:
Besides, if you can't figure out how to do a few command lines and drop files on the SD card, I don't think you have any business rooting, since you will likely screw something up. Most of the stuff you use root for will require some of these skills, and they are potentially more harmful if you do them wrong than when trying to gain root access. Gaining root access isn't very hard or even that dangerous. Flashing stuff and messing with low level system stuff is.
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I sort of agree with this.
However, it is very intimidating for people with little knowledge. There are a lot of terms and procedures that don't make any sense to people coming into this world.
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DanBergundy said:
I sort of agree with this.
However, it is very intimidating for people with little knowledge. There are a lot of terms and procedures that don't make any sense to people coming into this world.
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Those terms and procedures are all well explained if you read enough. I did. I'm far from an expert, but I have done way more than I expected with the info I found.

Uh, remember Unrevoked? All you had to do was simply go to unrevoked.com on the browser. Root Acquired.
It might have been easy this time on the iPhone, but it really depends on the exploit. Some are trivial, some are not. If anything it shows just how unsecure the iPhone is.
Moving on...

uniquenameevo said:
Those terms and procedures are all well explained if you read enough. I did. I'm far from an expert, but I have done way more than I expected with the info I found.
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I know, but we were all noobs once. Most the guides are written by smart people but they write in a way that doesn't cater to the new/dumb people.
Noobs are told "Post in the right section" and "Use the search!".
The info on the terminology and procedures is scattered about the site and it takes a lot of confidence for a noob with no knowledge to come in here with a $500 device and start tinkering with recovery modes and command lines.
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zeuzinn said:
Uh, remember Unrevoked? All you had to do was simply go to unrevoked.com on the browser. Root Acquired.
It might have been easy this time on the iPhone, but it really depends on the exploit. Some are trivial, some are not. If anything it shows just how unsecure the iPhone is.
Moving on...
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1000% agree with parts one and two. Part three seems like some personal anger toward the iPhone.
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It's basically the same. The iPhone Dev guys just build applications that carry out the jailbreak automatically. Here, many people don't bother but simple root runs batch files that take they typing out of the equation.
Unrevoked is more like the jailbreakme.com site and you don't even need a computer!
Coming from an iPhone myself I found the switch easy. Just have to do some reading to make sure you are aware of what you're doing. Although you should be doing the same with the iPhone too.
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Landmine said:
Looking at how easy and dumb proof they made the jailbreak for iOS 4, I'm not going to lie. I wish it was that simple on the Evo. You'd think that since Android is a stronger programming community, in my opinion, that we'd have a better mouse trap.
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=10943
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That jailbreak is so easy because of the GAPING HOLE in mobile safari's security.
Are you complaining that android isn't a security joke like iOS is?

DanBergundy said:
1000% agree with parts one and two. Part three seems like some personal anger toward the iPhone.
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No personal anger towards the iPhone. You needed to download and open a file to root with unrevoked, however, with this jailbreak for the iPhone, you do not need to do ANYTHING. It is a huge security hole and while no one has written any malicious apps to take advantage of this exploit, it could be easily created by even a mid-level programmer.
So it shows how unsecure the iPhone is, it really does. No personal anger, simply stating a fact.

zeuzinn said:
Uh, remember Unrevoked? All you had to do was simply go to unrevoked.com on the browser. Root Acquired.
It might have been easy this time on the iPhone, but it really depends on the exploit. Some are trivial, some are not. If anything it shows just how unsecure the iPhone is.
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With the new 1.47 root recently discovered, someone could have easily made a root method program that rivals that of iPhone's.
Besides, Android community is different from iPhone's. Most users are not tech illiterate (at least currently)

Apple software is notoriously ridden with security flaws. Of course it is easy to jailbreak.

Such a strong defensive stance by most of you. I have my Evo rooted. I'm a programmer and I've been hacking away at my devices and computers for as long as I've had them. However, I'm getting lazy these days and busy. To to clear up any confusion....
1) I love my Evo more than my old iPhone
2) I know Android is a better OS for me it can do a lot more than any other mobile OS
3) Following a 30 set fool proof guide is fine, but I like 3 step's to get what I want more than 30.
4) I'm far from "complaining", more than anything this thread's purpose was to ask and gain information to improve my understanding.
5) I love you guys

I will probably get flamed for what I'm about to say. The phone I had before the evo was the samsung moment. I came into that scene just after march of this year. Sprint had just released a downloadable update that anyone could update on their own. It was a windows based updater/flasher that had drivers and the update tar inside. It was incredibly simple then to flash any rom or mod you wanted. You could go back and forth from an oem stock rom to rooted and custom roms. The flasher program walked you through everything, so practically anyone could do it.
I would guess htc is a completely different beast. I don't know if they ever released a newb friendly updater or what. For me, this process could be made much easier.

same i came from a moment which was not hard at all too root. Ive flashed rom after rom but when i went and looked at the htc evo root... well i didnt do it. so many people having problems ect . So ya i havent rooted the evo and actually im scared too.. lol i am pretty good at that stuff i just dont want to brick my evo.

That's kind of my feelings on it as well. Seems like a lot of people are feel like me asking for a 1 click root is attacking everything great about the Evo. I love my Evo. It replaced my tv in my bed room, my iPhone and my laptop. Any device that could do 1 of those is an amazing device, but all 3? Nice.

okay, so on throttling...

i want to use the tool on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888372. i was reading through the t-mobile guide on throttling, and i got to page 9 without finding my answer. there are 39 pages, and i'm sorry if it offends someone that i didnt read through them all. so, my question is, will this tool work on my g2? or will it break it? i have back ups of both the stock rooted g2 rom, and my cyangoen user customized rom on my phone and on my computer. but i'd really rather not wait the ten minutes without internet that is going to happen if this ****s up.
EDIT: Okay so just be clear, this a post, about a tool, for the htc EVO, linked up there, that i want to know, whether it would be safe to use, on my G2

Dude, at least *try* to do your own research before starting a new thread. No more than halfway down on the first page of this subforum is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
How to defeat data throttling, specifically built for the G2.

moved up to orig post.

jenlow said:
just to be clear, this is a question about a tool, for the htc evo, to remove throttling on sprint. if youd click through, you would see that. what i want to know, is if its safe to use on the g2.
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Why would you think something made specificly for another phone would work on the G2. There is a thread in development for this subject and give instructions on how to defeat the data throttling, if those instructions are to complicated for you to follow then I think you might have to wait for someone here in the G2 forum to come up with a one click solution.
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why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.

joemm said:
Why would you think something made specificly for another phone would work on the G2. There is a thread in development for this subject and give instructions on how to defeat the data throttling, if those instructions are to complicated for you to follow then I think you might have to wait for someone here in the G2 forum to come up with a one click solution.
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and if reading, correct spelling, and the correct usage of too, to, and two are too complicated for you, you should probably get microsoft word.

jenlow said:
why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.
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Heres an idea, back up YOUR system, nandriod, then download the evo tool and run it, then you will get your awnser, i dont think anyone here is gonna be your beta tester, if its eatting at you that bad to know, then test it and let the rest of us know the big question. Does it work?
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jenlow said:
and if reading, correct spelling, and the correct usage of too, to, and two are too complicated for you, you should probably get microsoft word.
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At least I can follow instructions, and I dont have threads closed. Trust me everyone here is getting tired of you. And the data throttling thread works great for me, learn how to edit the service.jar files and repackage them then you wont have to beg for awnsers.....lol....please help me someone blah,blah,blah...
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jenlow said:
why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.
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I misunderstood your original post.
However, here's what I'm thinking (no I didn't try it, I don't care about data throttling, but I did read the OP on both links). Given that this is a services.jar edit, and the threads linked specifically say that each ROM's services.jar file is different (hence the lack of a single solution for all ROMs), I would say that this is *probably* not a good idea to use across devices.
As mentioned above though, simply do a nandroid and then try it yourself - as long as you can boot into recovery, you can restore the nandroid if it doesn't and then the only thing you've wasted is ~15-20 minutes of your own time.

the orange bandit said:
I misunderstood your original post.
However, here's what I'm thinking (no I didn't try it, I don't care about data throttling, but I did read the OP on both links). Given that this is a services.jar edit, and the threads linked specifically say that each ROM's services.jar file is different (hence the lack of a single solution for all ROMs), I would say that this is *probably* not a good idea to use across devices.
As mentioned above though, simply do a nandroid and then try it yourself - as long as you can boot into recovery, you can restore the nandroid if it doesn't and then the only thing you've wasted is ~15-20 minutes of your own time.
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what im going to try, as per a message from a user, is to use the t-mobile services.jar in the zip, an edited version, and use it that way.
the reason i did ask, is that as my phone is the only source of internet i have atm, i dont want to break it permanently, or to a point where i need to have the internet to fix it.

joemm said:
At least I can follow instructions, and I dont have threads closed. Trust me everyone here is getting tired of you. And the data throttling thread works great for me, learn how to edit the service.jar files and repackage them then you wont have to beg for awnsers.....lol....please help me someone blah,blah,blah...
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you can follow instructions eh? well so can i. i rooted my device, installed cyanogen on it, ive edited several other things on my phone, as per the instructions of others. Notice how i asked before i actually went through with the update? i figured hey, there's a lot of guys more knowledgeable than me on here, why not see if someone knows the answer before i end up possibly having to come back here asking for help.
But then there are retards like you. My major, is computer science. my speciality is non unix-based programming. linux is a fun little project for me, not my life. that being said, when someone out there has much more experience in an area than me, i'm not afraid to ask for help. Someone who actually understands what i am asking, like the guy above me, and the nice guy who pm'ed me knows that i'm not asking a stupid question.
So here is a little quote to live by, "There are stupid questions. But if I(jenlow) am asking a question, you can guarantee it isnt because i didnt simply miss something.
now troll, crawl into your little hole, and keep extorting the patience of those that cross your bridge.

jenlow said:
you can follow instructions eh? well so can i. i rooted my device, installed cyanogen on it, ive edited several other things on my phone, as per the instructions of others. Notice how i asked before i actually went through with the update? i figured hey, there's a lot of guys more knowledgeable than me on here, why not see if someone knows the answer before i end up possibly having to come back here asking for help.
But then there are retards like you. My major, is computer science. my speciality is non unix-based programming. linux is a fun little project for me, not my life. that being said, when someone out there has much more experience in an area than me, i'm not afraid to ask for help. Someone who actually understands what i am asking, like the guy above me, and the nice guy who pm'ed me knows that i'm not asking a stupid question.
So here is a little quote to live by, "There are stupid questions. But if I(jenlow) am asking a question, you can guarantee it isnt because i didnt simply miss something.
now troll, crawl into your little hole, and keep extorting the patience of those that cross your bridge.
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And your phone is your only source of internet....LMAO
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joemm said:
And your phone is your only source of internet....LMAO
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yeah, because i'm going to school. and i just moved into my own apartment. And since mommy and daddy dont foot my bills, i'm waiting on internet until i get paid.

jenlow said:
yeah, because i'm going to school. and i just moved into my own apartment. And since mommy and daddy dont foot my bills, i'm waiting on internet until i get paid.
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I think I hear a violin playing......
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I think i hear a troll growing, oh ****, sorry, i forgot i was feeding one. Peace.

in case anyone competent wants to check this out, here is what i have done so far. i did not flash the original tool, but i did open the tool up and replace the services.jar with an edited version using the cyanogen cm6.1.1 stable releases copy of services.jar repacked it, and tried to flash. I got ~"trying to update>opening update>update failed (bad)" in the clockwork recovery language. i didnt edit anything about the tool other than the version of services.jar inside of it.
the version i used from cyanogen, i edited following the how to defeat data throttling instructions with the windows script.

and lol to the guy who rated this thread one star. ONE GUY. ha ha hahahahahahah.

Well here's my two cents on 2 topics...
On topic : I think making a zip file for instantaneous data cap removal would be great. I did the data throttle removal when it first came about to the G2 but the kicker is that I really dislike cyanogen roms and reverted back to stock shortly after. I forget just exactly how to repack a zip like this but messed with it in Flippys overclocking zip to make my own 1.9ghz update.zip a while back. Hopefully I can make one if Jenlow doesn't figure it out before me. I personally find it to be a good overall question that is sprouting some good ideas
I mean the possibility of a zip format throttle remover would benefit the entire community so why fight about it?
Off topic : Soooooo about this internet.... I have a friend who is paying $25/mo for a 1mbit connection in his apartment. I used my speedtest app in his living room. I got roughly 9.6mbits down. (Who the hell cares about up speeds though lol)
I pay exactly the same price he does for a lan as I do for my data and it is nearly 10x faster. In cases like that, it's more than worth it to use your phone as your source for internet.
/debate

The only troll I see in this thread is the OP; otherwise, said OP would have searched the "G2 and Desire Z Android Development" section and/or just click on the second-to-last link of my signature. Considering that I must've flashed a modified system.jar to my own phone at least two dozen times over various ROMs (including the current GingerVillain), I'd say it's safe.

EASY way to ROOT (JUST ROOT) Droid Incredible?

Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)

What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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tiny4579 said:
What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.

Wallex said:
No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
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Well, most people consider root a power, and with great power..... Anyways,this is a developer forum, aimed at developers. I don't have a problem teachinganyone anything (within the realm of my knowledge, of course), but I do have aproblem with those who want their hand held, and refuse to look on their own. Ican pretty much guarantee you, that if you don't learn anything, and wanteverything spelled out, that's all fine and dandy, till you have an issue. Orsomething else doesn't work right, and then you constantly ask questions on howto fix your phone when a little research and a little learning will preventmost of these issues in the first place.
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I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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/end rant.
Sorry about that. You're easiest bet is to use htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader, then flash a recovery through your now unlocked HBOOT, then flash aSuperuser.zip to gain root.

if you knew someone who could root it for you, that would be easiest. maybe you could pay someone to root your phone? you know what we say, only smart people now how to get stuff for free or cheap. and in the realm of 'hacking" what we are definitely doing is value adding to what we have.
but if you learn how to do it, you could be that person helping others!
btw, funny thing about that link-that is the one I used. i found it a little intimidating at first(and looked extensively for an easier way that I never found) but now that I;ve rooted 3 phones, its fairly accurate. unfortunately you do have to go through the steps. there aren;t any shortcuts but it works. and the good thing is that if anything actually goes wrong in the process, atleast you should know where and why and how to fix.

Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH
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You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....

insomniac_lemon said:
You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
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FWIW, there was a version of Unrevoked that worked with certain versions of the Dinc's software (that's how I originally rooted my first Dinc), but recent OTA upgrades have made that method very unreliable. If you have HBOOT 1.07, there is no question that the best way to get root is using the guide, and yes, that guide the OP linked is a very good one. Follow it carefully and it will work, every time. You can even stop at step 3 and have a stock, rooted, s-on phone, without the complicated downgrade which is required to get s-off. Which is what the OP wanted, I believe.

Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
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LOL @ legible ENGLISH :good: Sometimes I feel the same way.
P.S. Broke out my old HTC INCRED 2. Think I may try rooting it. Got nothing to loose.
Keep the threads alive; -)

[Q]any tutorial vids?

Has anyone found any tutorial videos on how to root, install custom recovery(TWRP looks tough to be entirely honest) and custom roms?
It always boosts my confidence to see someone successfully installing custom things.
Also I have never used LG products and have no idea how to do basic things such as getting in recovery etc. I have experience with samsung phones but nothing other than this:/ Would anyone be kind enough to redirect me or make some tutorial videos:$?
Kind regards
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b3ava said:
Has anyone found any tutorial videos on how to root, install custom recovery(TWRP looks tough to be entirely honest) and custom roms?
It always boosts my confidence to see someone successfully installing custom things.
Also I have never used LG products and have no idea how to do basic things such as getting in recovery etc. I have experience with samsung phones but nothing other than this:/ Would anyone be kind enough to redirect me or make some tutorial videos:$?
Kind regards
Also if you are interested please show your support to this topic
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There are highly detailed and step-by-step guides on how to do it on the board. You know they work by people saying that it did and the lack of threads freaking out that their device is thrashed. Please be thankful for what you've got and just read what we put together.

b3ava said:
Has anyone found any tutorial videos on how to root, install custom recovery(TWRP looks tough to be entirely honest) and custom roms?
It always boosts my confidence to see someone successfully installing custom things.
Also I have never used LG products and have no idea how to do basic things such as getting in recovery etc. I have experience with samsung phones but nothing other than this:/ Would anyone be kind enough to redirect me or make some tutorial videos:$?
Kind regards
Also if you are interested please show your support to this topic
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i mean i rooted it and installed CM on it in a car 10 minutes after I bought it so i mean, confidence should be boosted

mustbepbs said:
There are highly detailed and step-by-step guides on how to do it on the board. You know they work by people saying that it did and the lack of threads freaking out that their device is thrashed. Please be thankful for what you've got and just read what we put together.
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Wow. I do not understand your negativity, this would only help newer users like me and keep people like you having less to critisize. As for the detailed guides which you mention either I have not stumbled across them(in which case you could point out but you dont seem to want to help from your initial responce) or we have a different understanding of detailed step by step guides.
Either way if you do not want to help I suggest not responding and being thankful that you have the option to cary on with your schedule, reading what you feel is more important.
Thank you for stopping by and pointing out your opinion

thoughtlesskyle said:
i mean i rooted it and installed CM on it in a car 10 minutes after I bought it so i mean, confidence should be boosted
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Can you point me out to your reading resources? I looked in the sections having a difficult time understanding how to install twrp recovery and later on how to get in recovery(button combo)

b3ava said:
Can you point me out to your reading resources? I looked in the sections having a difficult time understanding how to install twrp recovery and later on how to get in recovery(button combo)
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As far as resources it mainly comes from doing this a bunch and reading the thread, the way I did it was different than the twrp thread in a couple ways, I'll explain in a bit
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thoughtlesskyle said:
As far as resources it mainly comes from doing this a bunch and reading the thread, the way I did it was different than the twrp thread in a couple ways, I'll explain in a bit
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Thanks in advance

b3ava said:
Wow. I do not understand your negativity, this would only help newer users like me and keep people like you having less to critisize. As for the detailed guides which you mention either I have not stumbled across them(in which case you could point out but you dont seem to want to help from your initial responce) or we have a different understanding of detailed step by step guides.
Either way if you do not want to help I suggest not responding and being thankful that you have the option to cary on with your schedule, reading what you feel is more important.
Thank you for stopping by and pointing out your opinion
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Just do research instead of asking others to provide you with videos. If you learn it yourself and learn the ins and outs, it'll benefit you greatly when something inevitably goes wrong and you can figure it out yourself instead of relying heavily on others. As you move step by step in the guides, if something doesn't make sense to you, just Google it. It's not hard when you get used to doing it. Not trying to be mean or rude, but if you don't want to help yourself, we can't help you.

mustbepbs said:
Just do research instead of asking others to provide you with videos. If you learn it yourself and learn the ins and outs, it'll benefit you greatly when something inevitably goes wrong and you can figure it out yourself instead of relying heavily on others. As you move step by step in the guides, if something doesn't make sense to you, just Google it. It's not hard when you get used to doing it. Not trying to be mean or rude, but if you don't want to help yourself, we can't help you.
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i will give him one thing though there is a pretty vital command missing in the twrp thread to get it to execute, or at least from how I did it on every other device

here is a link to a video on how to access recovery via the 3 button method.
I recorded it with my phone so I am sorry/not sorry about the quality but it gets the job done.
also i can relate with you on wanting to see it visually, even as somebody who knows what they are doing, especially things involving button combo's I have a harder time reading than if i just saw a 30 second video on how to do it.
http://youtu.be/uo3YfszOPsQ
as for the recovery flash that's a little more involved and i already have my device rooted so if i did it, it would be from CM, and i'm not entirely sure if that would cause a problem (i don't think so though because loki is cool like that)

mustbepbs said:
Just do research instead of asking others to provide you with videos. If you learn it yourself and learn the ins and outs, it'll benefit you greatly when something inevitably goes wrong and you can figure it out yourself instead of relying heavily on others. As you move step by step in the guides, if something doesn't make sense to you, just Google it. It's not hard when you get used to doing it. Not trying to be mean or rude, but if you don't want to help yourself, we can't help you.
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Dude get over it you seem to have far too much time on your hands.
I didnt ask for anyone to make videos i asked if anyone knew of any videos. Since you didnt want to help or still dont get off the bloody topic. There is no point of doing what you did. If you wonna be arrogant im sure you have friends and family for that. Im fed up with your negativity. If you didnt want to be rude you could of just said im sorry i dont like sharing or helping noobs and moved on.
Thank you for annoying me 2day I wish you well. And when you get stuck on something and require other peoples help on a FORUM They all redirect you to google so you understand what a joke your responce is.
Ps didnt mean to be rude. But if you didnt know the meaning of a forum now you do.

thoughtlesskyle said:
here is a link to a video on how to access recovery via the 3 button method.
I recorded it with my phone so I am sorry/not sorry about the quality but it gets the job done.
also i can relate with you on wanting to see it visually, even as somebody who knows what they are doing, especially things involving button combo's I have a harder time reading than if i just saw a 30 second video on how to do it.
http://youtu.be/uo3YfszOPsQ
as for the recovery flash that's a little more involved and i already have my device rooted so if i did it, it would be from CM, and i'm not entirely sure if that would cause a problem (i don't think so though because loki is cool like that)
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I will repeat again.i did not ask for anyone to go out of their way and make videos i asked if anyone found videos. That by no means says i am not greatful for the small and perfect video you made. Rooting seems to be very easy its the recovery that I am having doubts about cause it seems to be a lengthy procedure. And requires what seems to be a ton of commands

can someone tell me if there are roms for htc m8 where EVERYTHING actually works?

Hi, i just bought an emergency fone, htc one m8 - well anyway i hate the stock of it, just duznt seem normal aye - as the title implies i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer, and dont say to me that this questions been asked before, just answer the question aye - any recommends? i just want simple ****

M4elstr0m said:
Hi, i just bought an emergency fone, htc one m8 - well anyway i hate the stock of it, just duznt seem normal aye - as the title implies i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer, and dont say to me that this questions been asked before, just answer the question aye - any recommends? i just want simple ****
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If this is an emergency phone, and if everything works (no bugs), I highly recommend you don't mess with it. Keep it stock.
Keeping it stock is the best way to ensure that it will work appropriately in an emergency, which is the reason you purchased it.

You haven't been specific to what "everything works" means. Everything works just fine on the stock ROM. If you are having specific issues, name them, and maybe someone can advise you more properly.
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i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer,
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So what exactly constitutes "bullsh_t"??? I would suggest you tread carefully before coming onto a forum and flinging around borderline insults to all the valuable information contained here. XDA us a wealth of information, for those patient enough to read and learn. Your comment makes you sound entitled, and too lazy to do that. In the end, this is just another n00b thread asking the cringe-worthy question "What is the best ROM?" Completely contrary to the whole point of XDA.

DanGeorges said:
If this is an emergency phone, and if everything works (no bugs), I highly recommend you don't mess with it. Keep it stock.
Keeping it stock is the best way to ensure that it will work appropriately in an emergency, which is the reason you purchased it.
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thats not quite the reason i bought the fone - i dropped my old fone and its straight broke! so emergency meaning i needed a fone quick! but yep, i get what you mean, cheers and thanks
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You haven't been specific to what "everything works" means. Everything works just fine on the stock ROM. If you are having specific issues, name them, and maybe someone can advise you more properly..
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let me reiterate ... i hate the stock of it, so many things i just dont use and probably would never use either are loaded in the background - sense, car, dot thing ... yep ... nup!
i bought a case for it and wondered why it would keep blacking out the screen when id set it sideways watching a vid - background things that id never use - the dot thing!
rooting the device ... 165 apps being optimized? thats a lot of apps for stock! and people wonder why ther battery dont last but then a noob would never know
now what i mean by everything is - digging through thread after thread i read about sim card not being detected, camera not working, imei's going missing, and then theres this thing called s-on and it seems that i cant change that now without paying for it...
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So what exactly constitutes "bullsh_t"??? I would suggest you tread carefully before coming onto a forum and flinging around borderline insults to all the valuable information contained here. XDA us a wealth of information, for those patient enough to read and learn. Your comment makes you sound entitled, and too lazy to do that.
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hey dont get me wrong, i love xda and for sure there's great information here - what bothered me and prompted me to write this on such manner was i saw a guy ask along the lines of the best rom and then sum prick comes and tells him this questions been asked before and then pretty much proceeds ta tell him ta **** off, no suggestions, no help, just get the **** on ...
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In the end, this is just another n00b thread asking the cringe-worthy question "What is the best ROM?" Completely contrary to the whole point of XDA
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maybe cringey to you but i am a noob and i'd like ta know and if its contrary to xda to answer this question then how helpful is it?

M4elstr0m said:
hey dont get me wrong, i love xda and for sure there's great information here - what bothered me and prompted me to write this on such manner was i saw a guy ask along the lines of the best rom and then sum prick comes and tells him this questions been asked before and then pretty much proceeds ta tell him ta **** off, no suggestions, no help, just get the **** on ...
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I don't think I like your attitude. Information that you don't want to read is "bullsh_t". And someone show tells the facts is "sum prick". You going to start calling me names too, if I tell you something you don't want to hear?
"Best ROM" is not a question that can be answered. You've already proven that point. Previous response suggested stock ROM. It's "best" for a lot of people. But it's not "best" for you. The "best" ROM is completely subjective. It is dependent on personal usage patters, preferences, etc. If you want a suggestion on a ROM, there are plenty of threads already discussing that.
XDA used to ban "best ROM" threads for the reason mentioned above. They now allow such threads. For no good reason, except pandering to lazy n00bs, and XDA jumped the shark on that note.