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Do apps from a rom not update in the market?

My question is if I flash a rom and say it has superuser or rom manager. Will that app update like regulare apps I download from the market or is that something I would have to manually update because the market doesnt realy know its there?
I know if I download an app when an update comes out it promps me to update and so forth but when the app is already on the phone from the start what about then?
I am looking for legit answers here no speculations. I have already been speculating since I started flashing roms. The answers seems to be no, especialy since the new gmail app is out and I havnt been prompted to update.
Thanks, Thomas

A lot of the time you can just download them from the market and it will be linked from then on. Sometimes it won't install cuz the app is recognized as a system app. In that case you have a couple options I know of. If you have Titanium, you can either use Market Doctor to re-link the app to the market or if that doesn't work you can remove it with Titanium and just reinstall through the market. Root explorer or ADB are other options for removing system apps. Check in Settings/Applications to see if it will let you uninstall the app. If not, its a system app. Kind of all depends on how the dev put the rom together. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the info
Now, if an app is already installed with the rom will it update from the market or do we have to manually update it?

[SOLUTION][FAQ] Why is my (insert system app here) gone?

Where is x system app?
If you are running the stock ROM that comes with the phone (rooted or not), then the disappearance of system apps is a bug with the stock firmware that comes with this phone.
Why is it gone?
Sometimes when you remove apps from the "menu/applications/manage applications" menu in settings, a plethora of system apps are deleted. You probably just noticed the one that caused you to make a thread about it. If you go back into the manage applications menu, you will probably see that many other systems apps are greyed out, including calculator, google services framework, and others. It is unknown why this happens when removing apps from that menu, it is just an annoying bug.
How do I fix it?
Well, there are two solutions. One, very simple, is a factory reset, and everything will be fixed. However, you will lose all your apps and data if you aren't rooted. The other solution, the way I chose to go after this happened to me 3 times, is to root and load any other custom ROM, I chose Incredible 2 HD.
I hope this thread helps answer people's questions. I have been seeing a lot of posts on this lately and wanted to provide a complete answer for people all in one place.

Your title says, this is a FAQ, so WHY? start a thread in the general forum??
Thread Moved!!

[Q] Imaging an S4 mini for deployment

Howdy,
Looking for some feedback on tools after rooting for doing a complete image of the phone. I need to setup about 14 phones and would like to get one set then image the rest. The only concern I have is the google account on each phone, I'll have to remove the one contained in the image and apply the new one, does anyone know if that will cause issues with the installed apps? I get that if they are google account based apps those apps would need to go through setup again.
Thanks,
~DC

DevCake said:
Howdy,
Looking for some feedback on tools after rooting for doing a complete image of the phone. I need to setup about 14 phones and would like to get one set then image the rest. The only concern I have is the google account on each phone, I'll have to remove the one contained in the image and apply the new one, does anyone know if that will cause issues with the installed apps? I get that if they are google account based apps those apps would need to go through setup again.
Thanks,
~DC
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Is deploying the app your only target? Or you want some of the system settings to be deployed as well?

If the apps are already installed and I'm taking what you're saying is you're going to basically copy and paste for my lack of more technical terms, from one phone to a few others right? Well if so the apps will not pass the installation of any updates at least for paid apps. Any apps you'd like to be system apps just drop in system/apps.
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justlovejoy said:
If the apps are already installed and I'm taking what you're saying is you're going to basically copy and paste for my lack of more technical terms, from one phone to a few others right? Well if so the apps will not pass the installation of any updates at least for paid apps. Any apps you'd like to be system apps just drop in system/apps.
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I want to create a base image to deploy to all the phones. The base image will not contain any paid apps, mostly google services with a few utilities for tracking bandwidth and others for locking down features. After deploying the image to all the phones I would changes each google account to for the user that will get the phone. Once each user's phone is setup I will create an image for each user for restoring.
I was concerned I would not be able to remove the initial google account, I believe this was something locked in earlier versions of android but not an issue now. Phones are in today so I'll be testing everything. I have to document the process so I'll post a guide.
Thanks!
~DC

Sounds awesome. I'd compile something for you from source but knox is fluffing crazy. Your Google account can be transferred from the main account to another if you shall succeed by making the second one you attached to the device the primary. But you I don't think can remove the main account unless you fully wipe the device but after you swap the primary account in settings you can then delete your original. Please do share the guide I'm sure it'll come in handy.
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If you have custom recovery on the phones: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scd.app2zip
Don't have custom recovery and use SD card: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.infolife.appbackup

[Q] Sprint Note 2 rootted stock now an update nag

Device Info: Sprint Galaxy Note 2 Running rooted stock Android 4.4.2. (chainfire auto root using odin)
Wifi only unit. I have no sprint contract purchased it used (I'm new to customizing android- I have flashed an old palm pda, but only via guidance)
Situation: Rooted the unit and have customized it as mine
1. No custom backup and would like to do that
2. Do not like all the bloatware apps
3. Now a system update has been downloaded asking to install (I've not okayed it)
So please help me with each of these
1. Please point me in the direction of best way to take a backup of existing rom ( I do have philz downloaded, but I'm not sure about how to ?
2. Would that deal with the persistent update request? Would it be good to update?
3. and then the bloatware removal, should I use an app that removes system apps? ( I have titanium, but I'm not good at knowing which apps to touch and not to touch) Thanks in advance and no I'm not in a hurry as yet.

Hi,
I will have your thread moved to your device section so the experts who own your device can help you.
Good luck!

Point to links please
If someone doesn't want to tackle this whole question I'd just appreciate links on how to step by step. I'd appreciate any help at all, I'm just a bit fearful of bricking the device, but if the instructions are clear I can definitely do this.
The first is issue is backup that is my priority at the moment. The second is whether to install the update or not and how to get rid of the nag. thanks

Not sure about backing up the ROM itself... but what I do is just back up the apps with Titanium and then re-load the apps (or just data) when I have to re-install my ROM like I did a couple of weeks ago. Prior to the Note II, I had an HTC Hero (stop laughing) and would do nandroids for that device. Don't know that you need that for Samsung devices, but somebody may be better to explain than I am.
ETA: here's an article on creating a nandroid, FWIW
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-a-nandroid-backup-and-how-exactly-does-it-work/
If you are rooted, I don't know that the persistent update will actually apply/install. I'm on Classic Stock 4.4.2 and I also had the same nag. Here's a link on how to disable the update nag. This is what I did, as my phone would not apply the update so I just disabled the persistent reminder using the steps below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442207
With respect to removing system apps, not sure I can offer much direction other than to suggest removing obvious apps (maybe like the Sprint Zone app) and then just doing a search on each app that looks like you can/want to delete or uninstall. Probably a bit time consuming, however, I am not aware of a "bloatware list" or anything which outlines safe-to-remove apps.

Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!

lost in cyberspace said:
Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!
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You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10

lennykravitz2004 said:
You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10
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Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.

lost in cyberspace said:
Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.
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Don't know if adb adblock is better - I've never used it. Didn't see you mention a couple of these things when you said you were "all set for awhile", so I was just trying to offer a few other things to consider and look into. Sounds like you're already on the ball though!
Personally, I'm happy with stock. Big reason for me to root was getting rid of ads. I've tried some of the other ROMs but I've always come back to the stock look and feel. I've had the device since about 1 week after it came out in Fall 2012. Of course, I am also on my third one since I totaled two other ones. I absolutely love it, and am in no hurry to upgrade (if possible). Hope you enjoy it as I have... lots of good stuff from devs here!

Is it OK to remove the stock calendar?

I have the Korean 6gb Tab S4 and the stock calendar is a little weird. It has some Korean stuff that won't translate (holidays, alternative holidays and government mandatory observances) plus the date is a little weird.
I tried a manually updating it and it wouldn't let me, it said it was already up to date. The app numbers are also different.
Anyway I was thinking of replacing it with the latest stock Samsung calendar from apk mirror. Do you think it is safe to Uninstall it? It won't let me from the stock app manager, but I could from titanium backup. My concern with that is that calendar storage (app/apk) would likely be effected as well. I'm just not sure what deleting and installing the apk mirror version of the calendar app will do to system stability.
Can anyone please advise me?
If there is a better forum for this question please let me know and I will post this question in the other forum.
Thank you for your consideration.

minionhunter said:
I have the Korean 6gb Tab S4 and the stock calendar is a little weird. It has some Korean stuff that won't translate (holidays, alternative holidays and government mandatory observances) plus the date is a little weird.
I tried a manually updating it and it wouldn't let me, it said it was already up to date. The app numbers are also different.
Anyway I was thinking of replacing it with the latest stock Samsung calendar from apk mirror. Do you think it is safe to Uninstall it? It won't let me from the stock app manager, but I could from titanium backup. My concern with that is that calendar storage (app/apk) would likely be effected as well. I'm just not sure what deleting and installing the apk mirror version of the calendar app will do to system stability.
Can anyone please advise me?
If there is a better forum for this question please let me know and I will post this question in the other forum.
Thank you for your consideration.
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Simply,before uninstalling take a backup
Also, you can backup any application very easily without root using an application from playstore - "share apps"
you can reset the application whenever you like

daitalos said:
Simply,before uninstalling take a backup
Also, you can backup any application very easily without root using an application from playstore - "share apps"
you can reset the application whenever you like
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Thank you!
I'll do it. I need to wait until I'm around a trustworthy computer and I'll try deleting it.