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Okay my phone was refreshed and I had to reinstall all my apps. I can't see google talk in the app marketplace. I also can't find it on appbrain.
I searched around for a while to try to figure out what was going on, but can't find much other information about it.
I doubt the app was pulled or i would have probably heard of it.
Can i get a QR code or link to the appstore or an APK or appbrain?
I wish I knew as well. I ended up reflashing my rom to get it back...
OP.... what you need to do is download a rom and extract it.
go into the folder " sytem" then "apps"
get the talk.apk our and either adb install it or put it on your SD card and use root explorer to move it to the system/apps folder on your phone.
Hope this helps
hmmm why would I need to do this? was it pulled from the android marketplace for some reason? i'm just curious, i'm pretty sure I had to load it on my phone before from the marketplace.
i probably will just end up using another messaging client, because I don't really want to go through all that for an app I don't use very much.
in any case thanks for the advice, i'm glad to hear i'm not the only one who can't find it..
It has been included in every ROM I've installed. Maybe find it in the gapps pack for Cyanogen?
I'm not even rooted... i'm not using a custom rom.. i'm just using the stock sprint issued evo.
I was having issues with the phone and they restored it to factory defaults which made me lose my apps. The last time i rooted was the intial unrevoked (which later was lost with an OTA update)
No idea what to tell you then. Talk is part of the Google apps that are included with the phone. Most every ROM I have installed includes it. Cyanogen doesn't include a lot of these because they aren't allowed to be distributed by third parties and their team is good about sticking within the rules.
If something screwed up you should just factory reset the phone if you only want stock. Better yet, do a proper root and install whatever app you want
http://cyanogenmod-mirror.local.host.name/gapps/gapps-hdpi-20101025-signed.zip. Must be rooted to flash obviously. Do not know if this zip will work with Sense ROMs. It contains all Google apps (Market, Talk, Google Voice, etc.) Good luck. Not guaranteed that this will work. Use at own risk. Do a backup first.
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No idea what to tell you then. Talk is part of the Google apps that are included with the phone. Most every ROM I have installed includes it. Cyanogen doesn't include a lot of these because they aren't allowed to be distributed by third parties and their team is good about sticking within the rules.
If something screwed up you should just factory reset the phone if you only want stock. Better yet, do a proper root and install whatever app you want
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ah i see my problem, i am an idiot. google talk IS preinstalled on the phone. i kept thinking i had to install it, couldnt find it in the market and gave up. i didn't even think to look in the app list on the phone....
that said, yea its about time that i did a proper root. ill have to read up a bit to be sure its easy enough- i have all the OTA updates, and htne ill go for it.
thanks for the replies!
So I have been playing around with making custom images for our Defy's here at work. I have just run into a little problem though. When I do a system restore, the phone reboots and the log into MotoBlur comes up. Only problem is that when i try to log in it gives me an error and says that a user is already associated with the phone. I can't get past this. Any suggestions on where I screwed up would be appreciated.
Hmm...now it gets more fun. I went to do a system reset, and when it boot all I get is the Android with a caution sign. Thank god its a company phone....
runeblade said:
Hmm...now it gets more fun. I went to do a system reset, and when it boot all I get is the Android with a caution sign. Thank god its a company phone....
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press the bottom right hand corner of the screen, not much of a development thread really
Already got it back up and running. The Dev question more applies to how do I do the system restores without the motorblur app locking the phone. I know most remove motoblur but we are leaving it in place to make it easier to manage contacts for the staff. Has anyone else experienced that on doing a restore because I haven't been able to find it through searching.
Basically what I'm trying to do is create a corporate rom for the phone. Building in the Cisco VPN support, adding touchdown and a few other apps, removing the junk ones. I assumed using the system backup was going to be the easiest way to do this, but if it's not I'm open to a better suggestion of how I should be doing this.
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Already got it back up and running. The Dev question more applies to how do I do the system restores without the motorblur app locking the phone. I know most remove motoblur but we are leaving it in place to make it easier to manage contacts for the staff. Has anyone else experienced that on doing a restore because I haven't been able to find it through searching.
Basically what I'm trying to do is create a corporate rom for the phone. Building in the Cisco VPN support, adding touchdown and a few other apps, removing the junk ones. I assumed using the system backup was going to be the easiest way to do this, but if it's not I'm open to a better suggestion of how I should be doing this.
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what are you using to create a back up?
If you have a number of phones, I would probably say easiest way is to get root, get everything working on 1, and then use clockworkmod recovery to create a full image, then restore the image on the other phones using clockwork mod. You could then remove clockwork mod and even root if you wanted on the other phones once done.
I am using clockwork at this point. That was what I did the full backup with. However with the restore to the phone, the initial Motoblur app re initiated itself but then wouldn't allow you to login into the account. Everything was still on the phone, but you couldn't get past the MotoBlur login. I'm guessing it's one of the packages I can uninstall, but I'm not sure which package is just the motoblur setup. Hope that makes sense.
I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.
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I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.
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I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.
Thanks , I got root last night
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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You can run anything you want, it's not going to hurt root. Root is really only a door, or access, to settings/system files that you wouldn't normally have. Any app that you can run without root can be run safely with root. The opposite is not true. There are a number of apps that cannot be run without root. A good way to find most of the apps that require root is to go to the Play Store and just search for "root apps". There's a bunch out there that you may want to try.
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First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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The only thing you have to be aware of to protect root is taking an OTA update. Now that you have a custom recovery and root the likely hood that you would be able to find and download an OTA is not likely, but if by chance you receive a notice that an OTA is available do not download and install it. If by chance the phone automatically downloads it and tries to install it, the OTA should fail so you'll be alright.
Be careful not to flash or ODIN a retail firmware. That is probably the biggest warning I can offer. Retail firmware, when flashed, will lock your bootloader. You can flash a modem or a kernel or a recovery, but not the entire firmware .tar md5 file.
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First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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By the way. Since you are new to root and custom recoveries, the first thing you should do, right now, is do a backup. Power off your phone, go into TWRP recovery (hold down the volume up, home and power buttom all at the same time). Continue to hold them down until you see the TWRP splash screen, then you can let them go. From the on screen menu select backup. Choose which file you want backed up. I recommend you do boot, system, data, modem, EFS and recovery as a minimum. After the backup is complete return to the main menu and select reboot. Do it right now
wifi hotspot
I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?
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I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?
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I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.
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I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.
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Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it
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Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it
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Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.
Automatic Back Up?
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Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.
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We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up
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We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up
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It's diffidently a good idea to have a recent backup and the original backup of your stock ROM. The only problem with a lot of backups is keeping straight what backup is what and the amount of space they consume. Memory is cheap I know, but backups can eat up storage real fast, LOL.
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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No there is not a stock md5 for the DE and there most likely will not be. In the past Samsung has never released a firmware package for their DE phones, not that I have ever seen anyway. What your phone came with is what you got. NO OTAs and no updates of any kind in the future...that's if Samsung behaves like they have in the past. That's why making a good back up of your stock (no root) when you first get recovery is so important. And, making a backup after root of course.
Do you mind me asking how you sync..............
GreenGoblin227 said:
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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your TWRP folder to your Dropbox account.. Did you transfer the folder to your computer first or can you sync the folder on your phone to DropBox directly ?
I use dropsync select the folder and it just does it automatically.
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I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.
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I'm assuming that the Greenify is the one with the leaf?
Is LagFix the purchase version? Is it an app by itself, or does it require exposed?
Do you use the SD Maid Pro Version?
Does the Adaway require exposed as well?
Thanks so much in advance.
***DISCLAIMER***: I refuse to accept responsibility if your device explodes, your cat/dog suddenly goes bald, you get fired from your job, Donald Trump converts to Islam and changes his first name to Abu, the world becomes engulfed in nuclear fire, etc. 'Nuff said.
Up until a few months ago I owned only Samsung where Android is concerned. But I got tired of the **** battery life that seemed to always manifest no matter which phone I bought. So I made a change and bought the finest LG I could find, which turned out being the v10. I've had a few issues here and there but nothing too serious. In my pre-LG days I used the S-Pen and Galaxy Apps often. Now, the latter was the only thing I really missed.
So, I dug up an old Note 4 ROM zip that was still lingering in my Dropbox, and began copying various files from it into my /system. After lots of headaches I managed the bare minimum # of files that were necessary to get Galaxy Apps working. The result is a <20MB flashable zip.
What you need:
File manager
Xposed
XInstaller
My zip
Download XInstaller, activate it in Xposed, go to Device Properties in the app, enable changing device properties, then change your model to "SM-N910T" (no quotes), then reboot. You technically could probably use any Samsung model, but this is what worked for me. Be aware that this will cause the Play Store (and possibly other apps) to mistake your model. Galaxy Apps checks your model when you run it, so this is necessary, unless you want to edit the APK to omit the model check (I don't know how).
As an alternative to using XInstaller and Xposed, you can just edit the model in your build.prop (located in /system).
Next, reboot into recovery and flash my zip, then wipe cache/dalvik cache. An alternative is to manually copy the files in the zip into their appropriate locations, then set permissions for each file to 0644. You can try installing all the APPs as data/user apps, but the 3 files in /system/etc/permissions and /system/framework must also be present, or this won't work.
Next, reboot into Android, go to Accounts in Settings, then add your Samsung account (create one if you don't have one). Launch Galaxy Apps and let it update and download additional necessary files (if necessary). Everything *should* work normally, including updating GA itself. I was able to download and run apps (all free). However, I haven't tested buying apps, in-app purchases, registering and using a credit/debit card, etc. If anyone wants to try then feel free and report back.
Caveats:
1. This may not work on ROMs below KitKat, since the files were pulled from a KK ROM. All files are presumably Samsung originals and I have not modified them in any way, which is why I'm calling this a port rather than a mod.
2. This may not work on AOSP/CM ROMs (it didn't for me, I got an FC/hang when trying to log into my Samsung account).
3. Nothing else I can think of ATM.
This is my first contribution to the Android community. This can probably also be used on other non-LG devices, but since I own an LG currently, I'm posting it here in the v10 forum, instead of somewhere else on XDA where it would receive more attention (people would eventually find this thread anyway by searching around).
If you think Galaxy Apps on LG is stupid, keep your thoughts to yourself and don't try this, I could care less what you think. This is for people that want to try it. Any trolling will be reported to the mods/admins.
Enjoy!
Edit: To be clear, I'm referring only to the GA Store itself, and not other Samsung Apps like SVoice, SMemo, etc. I just realized that my topic title might cause some confusion and people being mistaken.
Feel free to comment/discuss here, but all questions should either be PMed to me or (less preferably) posted in the Help/Q&A/Troubleshooting forums (but I don't really feel that this 2nd option is appropriate, because any issues are almost certainly due to trying to run GA on non-Samsung devices, rather than an LG/v10/non-Samsung issue).
I will be regularly updating the zip whenever any of the APPs get an update (and probably stop when this no longer works for whatever reason).
Credits to Samsung and HyperDrive ROM devs for the files, and JRummyApps and ZipMe for the means to create a flashable zip.
I don't own the v10 anymore. I went back to using the Note 4, which is a bit older than the v10 but still very fast and reliable for me. Battery life is also much better than I remember it being around 2 years ago (the last time I had my old N4 before it was stolen). Overall I'm happy I switched back, very few issues, all small. On it I'm running a modded Nougat ROM that is based on LineageOS. My Galaxy Apps zips runs fine even on that, no need to use Xposed/XInstaller or edit my build.prop, probably because it's an N4 and not an LG. I will continue to provide support for this, I plan to submit another zip soon that has all of the provided Samsung APKs as up-to-date as possible, and will have only the APKs that will be compatible for as many devices as possible.
Which samsung app are they? Just curious if the camera will work?
@raven213: They are:
Samsung Account
Samsung Billing
Samsung Galaxy Apps
Samsung In-App Purchase
Samsung Push Service
The only ones you can actually interact with are Account and Galaxy Apps, Account is so you can sign into a Samsung account from your Settings' Accounts menu, or from Galaxy Apps itself. I don't think Galaxy will let you download without an account anyway. Billing and IAP are most likely for being able to collect your payment info if you buy an app or make an in-app purchase (like buying coins in a online game or whatever). I haven't tested buying anything, so if anyone decides to tries, please post whether it worked. And Push Service is so the Samsung apps can send notifications to your device. So basically, just the bare essentials needed for Galaxy to work and nothing else. As for Samsung Camera, I doubt it will work, it'll probably just crash, since other files might be needed for that. Maybe you can get a Samsung Camera APK from apkmirror.com, or from Galaxy. There are also numerous threads on XDA where you can find collections of Samsung apps, they might have what you want.
I'm posting an updated zip with updated versions of all the apps/APKs, I made it not too long ago so they should be relatively recent. If they're out of date, they may ask to update, just let them. Or you can manually check for updates in Galaxy. I haven't tested the new version much, but it did work in my most recent try.
Also, I've come up with a new method that should work. It involves pushing touchwiz.xml to /system/etc/permissions/, and pushing twframework.jar and twframework-res.apk to /system/framework/. These are necessary and must be present in /system/. But the APKs can just be installed as regular user/data apps instead of system apps. To accomplish this just flash the latest zip (presumably from TWRP), then open TWRP's file manager, go to /system/priv-app/ and delete the Samsung APK files. You can also use FlashFire. Then boot into Android, unzip the zip file, then just install the APKs like you normally would. You'll need to enable Unknown Sources for this to work. Follow my instructions from the first post too. If you're on Marshmallow or higher, go to Settings and then Apps, manually grant all permissions for the Samsung stuff. If you cant see them make sure to enable viewing of system apps in this menu.
I am going to apply this method to my new non-Samsung Android phone as I really missed Samsung Focus. Do you think I will be able to use Samsung Focus with your method?
@xanga: I've never heard of Samsung Focus, so I wouldn't know if it would work. I only tested with the Galaxy Apps store. You will have to try for yourself and find out. Let me know if it does.
Does it works on xperia z5 with lineageos 14.1 on it?
I don't know, you'll have to try to. I don't own any Sony phones. It should though.
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This way, will I be able to install "Samsung Notes" app and Sync with Samsung Account?
@Fuurio: I don't know, as I said before, you'll have to try for yourself. Let me know if it works.
Yeah, it's a shame that this isn't working on Linage 15.1 . I can get the watch talking to my phone but I am unable to load any apps from Galaxy apps to the phone (which is better than nothing). As you said it just hangs... Everything else seems to work, it can even communicate with SHealth. If I don't update Galaxy Apps after flashing your 2nd zip I can sign in but when trying to install/download apps to my phone (Note Edge... pretty much a note 4) it downloads but hangs at that point and is unable install it to the watch through the gear plugin apparently (which is running).... If I update to the latest Galaxy apps (4.2.22) it can't even log in it gives me an error that the account already exists in account manager. Anyway, seems like I am almost getting it though. In fact I was able to work this prior to the last month or so (not with your zips) but something either changed with the Samsung apps or with Lineage 15.1
If anyone manages to get this to work completely on Lineage 14.1 or 15.1 pls post how you did it. I would like to at least be able to add watch faces.
Working now....
@rickpub: You mean it works with Oreo now? Because for me it doesn't, the app will open but it keeps saying there is a Samsung account already registered, when I try to download most apps. Works fine in Nougat.
Camera broke
Help i need to fix it how do i undo it
@Nick32603: What did you do? You just flashed the zip? And now your camera isn't working? I don't see how my zip would break your camera, unless you changed your model in build.prop, or with the Xposed module I mentioned. You can try deleting the files in the zip from your system partition. Or you can flash a stock KDZ. I used my zips on a LG v10 stock ROM awhile back, nothing broke, camera continued working normally. If you need more help then just post or send me a PM, I'll try to help.
Here is a link to a zip with the updated Galaxy Apps components (everything should be current as of May 2019). Follow steps in 1st post and flash in TWRP:
https://mega.nz/#!8h5EDIQI!QWNMQ4DB4Qg4Vx_83uf86Nnw_OSymSAZpdNnB8omVng
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Here is a link to a zip with the updated Galaxy Apps components (everything should be current as of May 2019). Follow steps in 1st post and flash in TWRP:
https://mega.nz/#!8h5EDIQI!QWNMQ4DB4Qg4Vx_83uf86Nnw_OSymSAZpdNnB8omVng
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Thanks, I tried installing this after the original one didn't work, but it didn't work either. It always hung itself up or crashed when trying to add a new Samsung account.
But I got it finally working after installing this Samsung Account APK: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsu...ng-account/samsung-account-2-2-04-64-release/
I'm not sure why it works now but I'll take it. Newer versions of this apk might work as well, but I only tried this one.
Thanks for this. Could you maybe bundle a few more apps. The sync provider(s) are really useful IMO.
Or maybe you could just dumb the entire rom on mega so we could pick the apps we like?
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What do you mean? Works fine with me (LOS 14).
Based on the title itself, what are the list of apps/packages that you guys removed (or can be removed) to debloat Mi A2 Lite?
Theres not that much bloatware in the device. And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
Uuuhhh. Welcome to my world. I don't like being tracked all the time by the countless sensors a modern smartphone has. Privacy is utterly important for me (and should be for everyone, but I'm not here to discuss this haha). Also, I hate making it easy to the multimillionaire companies profiting from selling and playing with your privacy. That's why I can't wait for the custom ROMs to start showing.
So, for now I disabled ALL google and all xiaomi apps. All of them except the "phone", "clock" and "carrier services" apps (the first 2 are too delicate for me and I didn't find a trustworthy alternative and I have no idea what the 3rd does, but seems important haha). Everything else, gone. Even "feedback", "PAI" and "Spock". And, of course, I don't have a google account linked to the device.
On the first boot, the phone connects to the internet and downloads a few other Google and Xiaomi apps. I prevented it to do so, so I wouldn't have to disable too many apps. I disabled google play services, play store and device setup (among the other ones) before connecting to internet.
Everything works fine in my phone (only one issue. Some apps rely on google services to show the map image. The image doesn't work while google services are disabled. But you can always enable it if you wanna use it).
Let me know if you have any question of any app/service/whatever you want to disable. I can share the alternative apps I use for the disable Google ones. I must say that most of them work even better.
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Uuuhhh. Welcome to my world. I don't like being tracked all the time by the countless sensors a modern smartphone has. Privacy is utterly important for me (and should be for everyone, but I'm not here to discuss this haha). Also, I hate making it easy to the multimillionaire companies profiting from selling and playing with your privacy. That's why I can't wait for the custom ROMs to start showing.
So, for now I disabled ALL google and all xiaomi apps. All of them except the "phone", "clock" and "carrier services" apps (the first 2 are too delicate for me and I didn't find a trustworthy alternative and I have no idea what the 3rd does, but seems important haha). Everything else, gone. Even "feedback", "PAI" and "Spock". And, of course, I don't have a google account linked to the device.
On the first boot, the phone connects to the internet and downloads a few other Google and Xiaomi apps. I prevented it to do so, so I wouldn't have to disable too many apps. I disabled google play services, play store and device setup (among the other ones) before connecting to internet.
Everything works fine in my phone (only one issue. Some apps rely on google services to show the map image. The image doesn't work while google services are disabled. But you can always enable it if you wanna use it).
Let me know if you have any question of any app/service/whatever you want to disable. I can share the alternative apps I use for the disable Google ones. I must say that most of them work even better.
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That's awesome. I wanted to know your alternatives to some of the system apps. I wanted to uninstall the default file manager of oreo but I can't find the package name from "debloater" magisk module. Also, what are the packages/apps that you uninstalled? Do you mind listing it here?
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is it true?
can anyone check it?
maybe magisk is not causing problems with OTA updates?
fake__knv said:
Theres not that much bloatware in the device. And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
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You can uninstall non wanted stuff with the help of ADB without the need of rooting your phone. It doesn't get uninstalled for real, but hidden for the main user profile. Those apps can't run but OTA isn't a problem.
Check it out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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@adriakus
You can remove carrier services if you removed Google Messages aswell.
"In a nutshell, the Carrier Services app is intended to allow your smart phone to take full advantage of a technology called Rich Communications Services, or RCS.
RCS allows for extra features in the Android Messaging app. The thing is most carriers have their own methods of supporting RCS in place so Google’s app is often redundant."
elvinguitar said:
That's awesome. I wanted to know your alternatives to some of the system apps. I wanted to uninstall the default file manager of oreo but I can't find the package name from "debloater" magisk module. Also, what are the packages/apps that you uninstalled? Do you mind listing it here?
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I've just created this post. I hope you find it useful
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/how-to/guide-apps-services-safe-to-disable-t3849263
I'm still working on it. Check in tomorrow and it'll be finished.
adriakus said:
I've just created this post. I hope you find it useful
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/how-to/guide-apps-services-safe-to-disable-t3849263
I'm still working on it. Check in tomorrow and it'll be finished.
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Awesome! Thanks for creating this thread. I'll definitely check it out.
krzygaj said:
is it true?
can anyone check it?
maybe magisk is not causing problems with OTA updates?
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I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
Majaque said:
I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
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Can Adaway cause problems with OTA updates?
krzygaj said:
Can Adaway cause problems with OTA updates?
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Yes, to prevent it you should turn on "Systemless host" option in Magisk Manager.
Majaque said:
I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
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Force-disabling a system app affects the system partition? Or it would only affect it if it's unisntalled?
adriakus said:
Force-disabling a system app affects the system partition? Or it would only affect it if it's unisntalled?
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Shouldn't be a problem. If you disable/freeze a system app with for example Titanium Backup and you restore the stock system partition via fastboot afterwards, the disabled app is still disabled. So the conclusion should be that those changes to the app aren't touching the system partition at all and are stored to the data partition instead.
Don't hit me if this isn't the case.
Hi everyone ,Before realize debloat system app like Google maps , youtube, etc will be a problem to apply new OTA , i uninstall some ones with "3C toolbox" making backup before , after that i restore the backups.
The question is , i am ok for apply future OTAs?.
Thanks.
Txatxiquesi said:
Hi everyone ,Before realize debloat system app like Google maps , youtube, etc will be a problem to apply new OTA , i uninstall some ones with "3C toolbox" making backup before , after that i restore the backups.
The question is , i am ok for apply future OTAs?.
Thanks.
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Probably restoring backups of uninstalled apps isn't enough to be OTA ready, better just disable/freeze system stuff. You won't get free space fo to use after uninstalling anyways.
thorin0815 said:
Probably restoring backups of uninstalled apps isn't enough to be OTA ready, better just disable/freeze system stuff. You won't get free space fo to use after uninstalling anyways.
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Ok, thanks , and now what i should do to be OTA ready?.
Txatxiquesi said:
Ok, thanks , and now what i should do to be OTA ready?.
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Reflash system_a and system_b partitions via fastboot.
thorin0815 said:
You can uninstall non wanted stuff with the help of ADB without the need of rooting your phone. It doesn't get uninstalled for real, but hidden for the main user profile. Those apps can't run but OTA isn't a problem.
Check it out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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@adriakus
You can remove carrier services if you removed Google Messages aswell.
"In a nutshell, the Carrier Services app is intended to allow your smart phone to take full advantage of a technology called Rich Communications Services, or RCS.
RCS allows for extra features in the Android Messaging app. The thing is most carriers have their own methods of supporting RCS in place so Google’s app is often redundant."
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Have you try to safely uninstall Feedback app? Really don't need it and i'd like to uninstall it without ota's issues
I've uninstalled the Feedback app and received the july's OTA without issues.
I've used this app: https://github.com/Saki-EU/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
Akbhar said:
I've uninstalled the Feedback app and received the july's OTA without issues.
I've used this app: https://github.com/Saki-EU/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
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Ty so much,i've had a quick look and it seems promising.Not so happy about Java,it's needed,but if you promise me you didn't have OTA issues i'll surely use it for my purposes.