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I really like the idea of the Galaxy Nexus.
I'm a former Nexus One user, I still have it in the box it came in with the Desktop dock and Car dock too. I'm holding on to it for ever!!!
I passed on the Nexus S because I didn't want a Samsung Phone. I love the way HTC makes their phones. I bought into the hype about their phones feeling "cheap" and "plasticy".
I decided to replace my N1 with a Sensation which has been a pretty big disappointment.
When the GN was announced I decided to swallow my dislike for Samsung's phones and go for it. After reading about the specs it seemed like a decent phone, Nothing groundbreaking just decent maybe even a little sub par when compared to some of the top of the line phones. The only really stand out things about it are the software, which most of the top tier phones will be getting upgraded to at some point.
NFC? It's cool but I can't see using it that much. I think I've run into one other person that was using a Nexus phone and I didn't care to swap info with them. I'd probably pay for stuff with it but I still have to carry a wallet so it's not going to replace my debit card.
Camera? 5mp that's less than 8mp seems like a pretty big step down from what every "top tier" phone out there. Hopefully the low light performance will be really good but somehow I'm expecting disappointment.
Big Screen? I love it big, but then I read about the Galaxy Note.
Pure Google? I've been there with everything up to Gingerbread and I have to say it was barren. I'm on sense now and I've tried (a few times) giving it up to use ADW to get that stock launcher experience I didn't last long. Compared to Sense 3 (I think) Gingerbread is VERY ugly and misses out on a lot of niceties that I've grown accustomed to in Sense.
At least it'll probably get updates first.
It seems like every time I turn around some company is releasing a phone that bests the GN in every way, SGSII, RAZOR and today I read freaking LG has got a phone with a killer display more pixels or something like that.
With that in mind how do you keep your excitement up about this phone?

when it comes to phones, its the software that makes the device, not the hardware......with a Nexus device you will always be on the latest and greatest, nothing is more frustrating to me than to be behind 1 or 2 software releases

Megapixels in cameras are not everything.
The support on Nexus phones is unparalleled. Samsung make good phones. I would get over the plastic hate and get the Nexus. You are on the Nexus forum so you clearly want us to talk you into it

That used to be the case. However with the announcement of ICS and the subsequent announcement from HTC, Samsung and others that ICS would be coming to their later phones it seems like the update argument may not be as valid as it used to be.
Even though I don't see that much use it NFC. Going forward, I won't consider a phone without it.

jivemaster said:
Megapixels in cameras are not everything.
The support on Nexus phones is unparalleled. Samsung make good phones. I would get over the plastic hate and get the Nexus. You are on the Nexus forum so you clearly want us to talk you into it
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I'm totally here to be talked into it .
I will totally admit to unfairly jumping on the "Samsung makes cheap feeling phones" bandwagon. HTC phones have weight, Samsung phones are light.
Yes Megapixels aren't everything but they do count for something.

Ironzey said:
That used to be the case. However with the announcement of ICS and the subsequent announcement from HTC, Samsung and others that ICS would be coming to their later phones it seems like the update argument may not be as valid as it used to be.
Even though I don't see that much use it NFC. Going forward, I won't consider a phone without it.
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Of course they're getting updated, but they'll be updated 3+ months after the Galaxy Nexus comes out.

That Samsung build quality stigma is FUD. Is all plastic, but my nexus s is the most solid feeling phone I've had. Light and rigid. I've dropped it on tile and wood floor and keep it in my pocket with no protection except that it's by itself. It still looks mint with zero screen scratches since March.
Don't buy into the megapixel myth. The sensor quality and optics are more important. 5mp is more than any cell phone needs, and provides plenty of resolution for larger prints. most use cases are social networking which does not need even a fraction of that resolution. Wait to see camera reviews and comparisons after people get their hands on shipping product.
You do sound a little confused about what phone you want. There's plenty of good products from various manufacturers with good qualities. What you will get from the GN is vanilla Android, timely updates, a solid all-around performer from a hardware standpoint (maybe not the best at any one aspect, but a formidable complete experience), and the warm fuzzies that super geek Android fans get for nexus devices. That may not be right for you, but that's what it is.
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My first android phone was the Droid X, I loved it as am android noob, then I rooted, then I flashed my first ROM, then CM7 came out for the DX, then I dropped it in a puddle... I was pretty disappointed when my insurance sent me an X2 as a replacement, but I've made it the most enjoyable I can by making my own ROM for it. Now I realize Moto will never stop locking their phones and hardware specs aren't everything, its about the software, which is why I'm 90% sure I'm going to be picking up the Gnex when my upgrade comes at the end of January. I've never owned a Samsung phone and am still skeptical about the build quality, hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised when I buy it
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What do people equate to build quality?
Do you know a phone that people says has the best build quality?
The iPhone 4 and 4s
Do you know what phone when drops shatters?
Thats right the iPhone 4 and 4s.
Judging build quality by feel alone is stupid. Quality means the grade of the materials used and how they are used. A plastic phone using really good plastic is a higher quality phone then a shattering glass phone.

Lil Jones said:
Do you know a phone that people says has the best build quality?
The iPhone 4 and 4s
Do you know what phone when drops shatters?
Thats right the iPhone 4 and 4s.
Judging build quality by feel alone is stupid. Quality means the grade of the materials used and how they are used. A plastic phone using really good plastic is a higher quality phone then a shattering glass phone.
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The iPhone 4 and 4S are extremely high quality. They're just... made out of glass. Obviously they're going to break when you drop them. Just like a window will break when you throw a cinder block at it. That doesn't mean the window is low quality....

Their reinforced glass is not as good as gorilla glass, I heard.

The one aspect that people seem to be taking for granted also is that because of all these specs and the Nexus name. Galaxy Nexus is going to have a much larger developer following for rooted customization. Also, when you are looking for a new product what better way to narrow down what to get than to ask an expert...well, developers largely choose Nexus.
(Before someone attacks me with the typical response "not everyone wants to root ". No not everyone does. This was Simply offered as one more possitive to add to the Nexus checklist. )
When it comes down to it. everyone should buy what they want cause no one else cares.
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You don't buy the Nexus for the hardware. If my Nexus One would have worked on Verizon I would still be using it.

Let's be honest, if you're regularly browsing this site, chances are you're atleast toying with the idea of rooting the device (if not in the, "The thing will be rooted before I get a text" category).
The Megapixel hype is just that. It's kind of like America's fascination with horsepower -- yes your GT500 outputs crazy numbers, but it still can't turn.
-insert flaming-

Nother Sensation owner here waiting to bounce on the GN for dev support. I will run CM9 or a MiUI ICS variant more than likely. I'd prefer to have the most choice for kernels and roms over slightly better hardware. Do we really need 4 cores in a phone?

Ironzey said:
That used to be the case. However with the announcement of ICS and the subsequent announcement from HTC, Samsung and others that ICS would be coming to their later phones it seems like the update argument may not be as valid as it used to be.
Even though I don't see that much use it NFC. Going forward, I won't consider a phone without it.
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No, that still is the case. Even though a manufacture says they will release an update it will never be timely. As manufactures produce more and more models of phones their support goes down the drain. My Samsung Vibrant never got an official update that was promised. The thunderbolt finally got gingerbread.
My G1 was my favorite phone. Great support by htc, google and devs. It always had the latest version of android, even when its hardware could barely run it.
I would rather have a well supported phone than the highest spec phone. While the galaxy nexus appears to have average hardware it will have great android support and dev support.

Availability of developers.
CAN'T STAND OS delays.
Beautiful bezel.
No HD screen + RGB notification combos on Tmo.
That's if this retarded phone ever comes out for Tmo.

Inused to be HTC supporter. But after I got The old Desire, I vowed to not get any HTC anymore. I dislike Sense and replaced with LP pro.
Then I got the Nexus S, and feel really like the design and overal feeling. All blacks, with super Amoled, seems elegant and mysterious.
And it is much lighter as well.
On top of that Qualcomm is not as fast as Hummingbird, Exynos, or now TI Omap.
Nuff said, no HTC anymore.
Nexus phone all the way
Ironzey said:
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I really like the idea of the Galaxy Nexus.
I'm a former Nexus One user, I still have it in the box it came in with the Desktop dock and Car dock too. I'm holding on to it for ever!!!
I passed on the Nexus S because I didn't want a Samsung Phone. I love the way HTC makes their phones. I bought into the hype about their phones feeling "cheap" and "plasticy".
I decided to replace my N1 with a Sensation which has been a pretty big disappointment.
When the GN was announced I decided to swallow my dislike for Samsung's phones and go for it. After reading about the specs it seemed like a decent phone, Nothing groundbreaking just decent maybe even a little sub par when compared to some of the top of the line phones. The only really stand out things about it are the software, which most of the top tier phones will be getting upgraded to at some point.
NFC? It's cool but I can't see using it that much. I think I've run into one other person that was using a Nexus phone and I didn't care to swap info with them. I'd probably pay for stuff with it but I still have to carry a wallet so it's not going to replace my debit card.
Camera? 5mp that's less than 8mp seems like a pretty big step down from what every "top tier" phone out there. Hopefully the low light performance will be really good but somehow I'm expecting disappointment.
Big Screen? I love it big, but then I read about the Galaxy Note.
Pure Google? I've been there with everything up to Gingerbread and I have to say it was barren. I'm on sense now and I've tried (a few times) giving it up to use ADW to get that stock launcher experience I didn't last long. Compared to Sense 3 (I think) Gingerbread is VERY ugly and misses out on a lot of niceties that I've grown accustomed to in Sense.
At least it'll probably get updates first.
It seems like every time I turn around some company is releasing a phone that bests the GN in every way, SGSII, RAZOR and today I read freaking LG has got a phone with a killer display more pixels or something like that.
With that in mind how do you keep your excitement up about this phone?
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I tried to use a SGSII but couldn't live with it. Was coming from a Nexus S and before that I owned a N1. It just didn't feel right. It came shipped with 2.3 then after some time 2.3.4 hit when I sold it a month ago 2.3.5 still wasn't official available. In addition they added a strange bootloader which stopped you from flashing CM7. I don't know exactly what happened there but it was one of the points which led me to sell the phone. I'm using a Desire now until I receive my 100% free GN.
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I'll probably just keep my NS for now. All other smartphones sound lame in comparison to the NS + Voodoo Sound.

Coming From Iphone 4s ?

u guys think that it will be a good choice for me or not ?

This is an Android forum and more importantly an Android phone...what do you think people are going to tell you? Haha j/k
If it was apps you were worried about Android Market will probably overtake App Store in a year or two so I'd say go for it
It's personal preference but I'm sure you definitely wouldn't regret it. You seen Ice Cream Sandwich?!?! Daymmmm!

Yes, it will be a good choice.
Imagine the screen size only, that's enough to laugh about iPhone 4S tiny screen
x.Orville.x said:
u guys think that it will be a good choice for me or not ?
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yea i know i the iphone 4s screen a little tiny calculator lol just selling mi 4s to get the nexus

From 4S to Galaxy Nexus.....it a huge jump. I would start with Nexus S first.

x.Orville.x said:
u guys think that it will be a good choice for me or not ?
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I went from the iphone to the SGS2 and it didn't work for me I was told to try a pure google phone for what my needs were, I have not bought it yet as I'm waiting to see if it's going to be recalled or maybe get a phone from a fresh batch, the apps are somewhat different then on an iphone for an example is the pandora app for say if you turn it landscape you won't get the playlist you listened to during your secion(like you can't look back and see what you listen to and see all the album covers, some apps are better in android then on the iphone some I prefer some I don't JAMOP ,

justabrake said:
I went from the iphone to the SGS2 and it didn't work for me I was told to try a pure google phone for what my needs were, I have not bought it yet as I'm waiting to see if it's going to be recalled or maybe get a phone from a fresh batch, the apps are somewhat different then on an iphone for an example is the pandora app for say if you turn it landscape you won't get the playlist you listened to during your secion(like you can't look back and see what you listen to and see all the album covers, some apps are better in android then on the iphone some I prefer some I don't JAMOP ,
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Dude. Use a period or two.
The iPhone is the top-of-the-line iOS device while the Nexus is the same for Android. The 4S won't have a successor for at least 6 months, while the Nexus could easily cruise a year. That being said, both will be outspecced pretty quickly by quadcore Android phones. Try the Nexus out, IceCreamSandwich is the main feature, as is the HD screen. If you don't like it, go back to the 4S, or wait for some new Android phones. The 4S and Nexus are almost on par in terms of hardware, and are both flagship devices. Either one is a great choice, just depends on your UI preference.
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I try to jump to a gs2 last summer but i dont liked and switched back to ios u guys think that the nexus will be outdated in a 3 or 4 months ? That's my main reason to get to phone when the gs3 come will be outdated or not ?

x.Orville.x said:
u guys think that it will be a good choice for me or not ?
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We can't make that decision for you !, I didn't like the SGS2 because of the OS matched up with the hardware, The hardware is all there but it doesn't really work together with it's OS, It's not like how apple puts together their phone everything works like a well oiled machine, it's just not there for some reason, it's all a matter of how one notices it. This is my opinion and I'm hopping for a better phone experience this time around with google as the hardware picker and maker of there OS ICS and definitely not samsung the plastiqek phone maker, I would have liked LG or HTC make it. JMO like it or not

I just made the jump from iOS (3Gs, 4, 4s) to an SGSII, and it will be hard to go back, for me. Customization and larger screens were my main reason for jumping, and I haven't been disappointed. iOS still wins for the ecosystem and interoperability elegance, but I am happy with my choice.
On a side note, my SGSII is going back (bought an unlocked Nexus S) because like the 4s, it is not compelling enough to use my upgrade on for two years. I'll see what comes out in 2012 for an upgrade.
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Hemlocke said:
I just made the jump from iOS (3Gs, 4, 4s) to an SGSII, and it will be hard to go back, for me. Customization and larger screens were my main reason for jumping, and I haven't been disappointed. iOS still wins for the ecosystem and interoperability elegance, but I am happy with my choice.
On a side note, my SGSII is going back (bought an unlocked Nexus S) because like the 4s, it is not compelling enough to use my upgrade on for two years. I'll see what comes out in 2012 for an upgrade.
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I'm buying this nexus outright and saved my upgrade for the iphone 5, I want the iphone 5 early shipped to me.

If you like to customize and do things like put ROMS, kernels, over clocking and such.
Android is now the way to go.......maybe in the past it was iOS but now they are pretty even.
Android is a lot better now especially with ICS....at least they finally decided to implement hardware acceleration -.- which is what iOS did since the beginning making it feel so much more fluid than android.
Anyways, if you sell your iPhone 4s, i would say get the GSII and save a few hundred bucks, especially since the Galaxy Nexus is costing more than the iPhone 4s even sells for. Then use that money when the GSIII or iPhone 5 come out.

I have both the iPhone 4S and Galaxy Nexus.
The iPhone 4S has superior build quality, camera and video recording, games, and vastly superior battery life.
The Galaxy Nexus has the best display I've ever seen, even better than Retina IMO! I can't believe people are bashing Super AMOLED HD or saying Retina is still way better. I have no complaints about the screen, its jaw dropping. Android 4.0 is the best OS out IMO as well. IOS 5 is cool and all, but I can't help but feel that Apple isn't innovating as fast as they should. Google literally redesigned and improved every aspect of Android in one update. In these past 4 years iOS looks nearly identical to how it did when it first launched, as well as many of the stock Apple apps. Every Google app got a giant facelift and improvement: YouTube, Gmail, Google Maps etc. And they look beautiful on this screen. The phone is pretty big overall but I'm getting used to it and its awesome. Performance is very good as well.
I've had the phone for roughly half a day and battery doesn't seem that good yet but I'll reserve judgment for a few more days.
I honestly can't believe Google improved Android this much in just one update. Its amazing.
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I agree. People dog the 4/4s because they will shatter, but the build quality and materials are excellent. It doesn't feel cheap.
I liked the SGSII, initially, but it has always felt cheap and the big screen has terrible resolution. I realized that Android was what would keep me here. I'm looking forward to some premium look and feel Android devices to match the potential of Android OS.
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Just sell my 4s on ebay 588$ for it 16 gb ordering through expansys this week

x.Orville.x said:
I try to jump to a gs2 last summer but i dont liked and switched back to ios u guys think that the nexus will be outdated in a 3 or 4 months ? That's my main reason to get to phone when the gs3 come will be outdated or not ?
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In the smartphone game EVERY phone that comes out is eclipsed in 3-4 months as far as specs are concerned, that's just the nature of the beast now. The thing about the iPhone and the Nexus phones are that there is only one device made every year despite all the other ones that come out with newer faster hardware or whathaveyou. The Nexus phones were designed to have hardware and software work hand in hand more so than any other Android phone. Both of the previous Nexus devices are the only ones running 2.3.6 (to my knowledge - and the NS4G has 2.3.7) which is one update ahead of everyone else - brand new phones are being launched with 2.3.5. If you're gonna make the jump, you're going to want the pure Google experience.

qreffie said:
In the smartphone game EVERY phone that comes out is eclipsed in 3-4 months as far as specs are concerned, that's just the nature of the beast now. The thing about the iPhone and the Nexus phones are that there is only one device made every year despite all the other ones that come out with newer faster hardware or whathaveyou. The Nexus phones were designed to have hardware and software work hand in hand more so than any other Android phone. Both of the previous Nexus devices are the only ones running 2.3.6 (to my knowledge - and the NS4G has 2.3.7) which is one update ahead of everyone else - brand new phones are being launched with 2.3.5. If you're gonna make the jump, you're going to want the pure Google experience.
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The SG2 has been out for 7 months and is still one of the most powerful smartphones out there in terms of hardware.

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The SG2 has been out for 7 months and is still one of the most powerful smartphones out there in terms of hardware.
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I was going to say that LOL but he's also mentioning a phone that come out once a year samsung puts out phones ever three months

That's because of the timing it launched in. With 4 cores around the corner things will change fast .
But I have to say this to OP, me personally I have no desires to go into contest of who has the longer piss, what matters to me is the user experience, as long as it is smooth and fast I don't care about hardware much as long as it would support the latest software. Because overtime all the wow effect will diminish and you'll be left with the software.
I would change from the iPhone to anything just because of the tiny screen.
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That's because of the timing it launched in. With 4 cores around the corner things will change fast .
But I have to say this to OP, me personally I have no desires to go into contest of who has the longer piss, what matters to me is the user experience, as long as it is smooth and fast I don't care about hardware much as long as it would support the latest software. Because overtime all the wow effect will diminish and you'll be left with the software.
I would change from the iPhone to anything just because of the tiny screen.
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I left apple because iphone 4s wasn't an upgrade to me, I also wanted to try something different in life because I had the 2G 3G 3Gs 4 and wanted to see what else is out their and like I said the SGS2 was not for me and I would have turned back if someone didn't say give the google phone a try ( because of what I wanted in a phone ) So here I am waiting to purchase soon, just waiting for the first update and for the second batch to appear
from what I read on iclarified they said (speculation of course ) apple is working on a 4" phone That would be good and I hope they make both because a lot of people like using one hand when surfing and the iphone is great for that in size
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=18327

Samsung galaxy Nexus -Deal breaker

Deal breaker
The dealbreaker for me was
1-People in the USA complaining about when going in dense places the network drops out.
I'm always in parks and on the outskirts of the networks so this is not good for me.
2-Pages and pages of complaints + New upgraded OS
These complaints may not end for months and I don't want to be a ginnypig for google
3- 5mp camera.
Can't see myself downgrading from 8mp to 5mp Camera, Close up is OK but zooming is not good
for somone that seen what the difference would be, A 12mp will be out in 3-4 months
I could ADD more.

Well I was all for the whole thing, except for less codec (audio/video) support than the SGS2, less app compatibility, worse media player, no SD card slot, worse camera...
I can't really see any benefit for an upgrade from the SGS2 for me... Other than the novelty of ICS of course

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I can't really see any benefit for an upgrade from the SGS2 for me... Other than the novelty of ICS of course
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Superior screen

Forums are designed to hear more complaints than gratification...people spend more time trying to find something wrong with their devices instead of just enjoying them. All forums are full of this OCD behavior. You have to face it that majority of the owner who enjoy thier devices are not posting how much they love them. They are rooting, adding Roms, or just nothing and letting it be a friggin phone.
I love my GN...sure it has a few bugs but if you keep waiting for the next best thing then you will never buy anything. Just buy what you like try it out and form your own opinions.

Lcrkz0023 said:
Forums are designed to hear more complaints than gratification...people spend more time trying to find something wrong with their devices instead of just enjoying them. All forums are full of this OCD behavior. You have to face it that majority of the owner who enjoy thier devices are not posting how much they love them. They are rooting, adding Roms, or just nothing and letting it be a friggin phone.
I love my GN...sure it has a few bugs but if you keep waiting for the next best thing then you will never buy anything. Just buy what you like try it out and form your own opinions.
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I was told to try the Pure google phone experience because I didn't care for the SGS2 touch wiz or the UI either way I tried the Nexus S at Sprint yerterday and today again to make sure what my feelings were about it and it had the same old specs 5mp camera and it was slow as **** and dull dull dull

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I was told to try the Pure google phone experience because I didn't care for the SGS2 touch wiz or the UI either way I tried the Nexus S at Sprint yerterday and today again to make sure what my feelings were about it and it had the same old specs 5mp camera and it was slow as **** and dull dull dull
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Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus are 2 very different things.

justabrake said:
I was told to try the Pure google phone experience because I didn't care for the SGS2 touch wiz or the UI either way I tried the Nexus S at Sprint yerterday and today again to make sure what my feelings were about it and it had the same old specs 5mp camera and it was slow as **** and dull dull dull
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Nexus s has gingerbread for the time being unless you root, and the UI is way different from ICS. All of the reviews I have read say the interface changes in ICS are for the better.

If you have a SGS2 then there is no reason to upgrade. I passed on the SGS2 because I wanted Google to be in charge of my updates instead of Samsung. Considering the galaxy s only went up to gingerbread and they're not gonna update it even though it's capable of running ice cream sandwich I don't see any compelling reason to leave samsung in charge of my updates. The development community will pull through but you have to admit the roms would work a lot better if they had a nice stock kernel to pull from as well as the source code provided by OEM.
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justabrake said:
Deal breaker
The dealbreaker for me was
1-People in the USA complaining about when going in dense places the network drops out.
I'm always in parks and on the outskirts of the networks so this is not good for me.
2-Pages and pages of complaints + New upgraded OS
These complaints may not end for months and I don't want to be a ginnypig for google
3- 5mp camera.
Can't see myself downgrading from 8mp to 5mp Camera, Close up is OK but zooming is not good
for somone that seen what the difference would be, A 12mp will be out in 3-4 months
I could ADD more.
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Well your talking about the GSM version. What about Verizon. See I heard the opposite, that it was getting better reception then some of the newer phones out... razer and rezound.
There really aren't lots of complaints about the phone itself outside the, already fixed, volume bug.
Just like the volume bug, see how quickly it was fixed? This is why we choose the Nexus phones. Other phones would have gone for weeks or months before a new fix. This is the reason.
As far as the camera... 5mp with instant shutter > 8mp with 5second shutter. Sure I'd rather have a 8mp with instant shutter, but whatever. Out of all the photos I take, 5% end up on Facebook and the rest go to waste in a folder.
I dunno. I have different reasons for getting a Nexus. I would keep my G2x otherwise until quads come out. The Nexus is the one phone on Verizon that isn't locked down by their BS policies and bootloaders... and work pays for my Verizon line. Galaxy Nexus = +$80 a month I save.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

justabrake said:
I was told to try the Pure google phone experience because I didn't care for the SGS2 touch wiz or the UI either way I tried the Nexus S at Sprint yerterday and today again to make sure what my feelings were about it and it had the same old specs 5mp camera and it was slow as **** and dull dull dull
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Apples vs Oranges....

Lcrkz0023 said:
Apples vs Oranges....
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At least it's not Apples vs. Blackberries

I find your points invalid. Not to argue but just throwing out my opinion considering I've had the device for the day and have compared it to my friend's 4S and a GS2.
1) The network problem that people have been having doesn't seem to be a problem. It's not because of the device to say the least as no one outside of the US has whined about it.
2) ICS has got to be the best Android OS to date. Not because it's new, but because it is the most refined and by far the smoothest experience for any mobile OS. I prefer it over iOS 5.
3) For any regular person, 5 MP is great. Especially with the zero-lag shutter which I have to say worked amazingly in my test. Compared to 8 MP you can honestly barely tell the difference. If you require that much quality from a digital camera then you should invest in an actual decent camera.

player911 said:
Just like the volume bug, see how quickly it was fixed? This is why we choose the Nexus phones. Other phones would have gone for weeks or months before a new fix. This is the reason.
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I'm as big of a stock Nexus fan as the next person (own the Gnex, sold the SGSII for it, for example) but the search button bug is still not fixed on the Nexus S.
So, Google isn't held to a "do no wrong" standard...they are faster than regular manufacturers for updates, but we are never guaranteed perfection.

My first sgn has most definitely had reception / no signal in low cell service areas. However any other phones in the area whether its an iPhone or an android are still able to make calls when my nexus cant. I have a replacement device coming to see if its a radio issue.i will say though that any where there is a good signal the thing screams. However the signal also drops in those areas and doesn't recover. Hopefully its just mine.
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Forums are designed to hear more complaints than gratification...people spend more time trying to find something wrong with their devices instead of just enjoying them. All forums are full of this OCD behavior. You have to face it that majority of the owner who enjoy thier devices are not posting how much they love them. They are rooting, adding Roms, or just nothing and letting it be a friggin phone.
I love my GN...sure it has a few bugs but if you keep waiting for the next best thing then you will never buy anything. Just buy what you like try it out and form your own opinions.
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Thank you, couldn't of said it better myself

My point to the OP is that if you into each & every phone thread here on XDA, you find that every phone has pages & pages of complaints. Therefore, no matter if a new phone is released today or 6mos from now, this will continue to be the case for those too. I guess I dont understand what the OP really want anyone to say. I try things for myself and base my opinion. I certainly dont base my buying decision solely on what forum posters say because going into it i alrdy know that most posting are going to be negative. That is the case in EVERY phone thread.

This phone rocks. Period. I am loving it more every day.
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If the OP has a problem with #2 on his list, then google nexis devices aren't for him. Tech geeks buy these phones cause they come with the bleeding edge of android OS technology. And with that comes bugs, things that may not be finished, ect. Plus we usually like to tinker with stuff, break and fix it

If you don't want to be a guinea pig for Google, then don't get a Nexus.
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it's good that OP doesn't like the GN, then all the more stock for the rest of us!

The bad(!) about having the best

Yes, I mean, it was sort of a fun entertainment to be on a market for a new phone... looking for a better this, upgrading that...
But, with the GNex?
I feel like there's nothing better worth looking for... maybe I'm just easy to please, but I have the feeling that changing the phone would most likely bring me something worse.
I mean, not only for the current phones, but even for the ones to come!!
A faster processor? FASTER??
A better screen? BETTER????
Maybe a better camera, but, come on, is that really noticeable the difference with others phone's camera?
A larger display? Yes, but It's going to loose portability...
A better battery life... but for that you need a better battery, not a better phone!
OMG, will I have to stick whit the GNex forever?
Is there anybody out there feeling the same way?

I thought that about my Xperia Play too. I'll give it the fact it's the only phone I didn't sell when I got a new one, but the GNex was too tempting. I'm sure the new Nexus will be tempting as well.
As a side note I still use my XPlay for games. I just can't stand playing most of them on my Nexus.

lazol said:
Yes, I mean, it was sort of a fun entertainment to be on a market for a new phone... looking for a better this, upgrading that...
But, with the GNex?
I feel like there's nothing better worth looking for... maybe I'm just easy to please, but I have the feeling that changing the phone would most likely bring me something worse.
I mean, not only for the current phones, but even for the ones to come!!
A faster processor? FASTER??
A better screen? BETTER????
Maybe a better camera, but, come on, is that really noticeable the difference with others phone's camera?
A larger display? Yes, but It's going to loose portability...
A better battery life... but for that you need a better battery, not a better phone!
OMG, will I have to stick whit the GNex forever?
Is there anybody out there feeling the same way?
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I want a Nexus with a smaller screen, so shoot me. There are still tons of UI elements that are at the top of the screen and even my large hands (thumb) has trouble reaching the top without shifting the phone in my hand.
Now if they abandon clickables at the top of the screen (and even mandate it in dev guidelines), I'd switch my stance.

Im contemplating on buying the original nexus one LOL. You can still purchase them brand spanking new and there are Jelly Bean builds for them.

At the moment I agree that there's nothing out there I'd rather want than a GNex. I just can't leave the pure Google experience now that I'm used to it, and I also really like the physical design of the phone with its completely featureless front. But that doesn't mean the GNex is perfect.
The screen, while nice, could definitely be better. It's a pentile matrix display which, while not all that noticeable at 720p, is clearly worse than a true RGB display. Solid red colors (such as the battery indicator when the battery is low) look pretty damn fuzzy and bad. Beyond that, the screen is also pretty "grainy" (especially noticable at low brightness), not perfectly uniform (faint vertical lines, etc), and is also pretty prone to burn-in.
The camera is bad. Ok, it takes perfectly acceptable pictures with good lighting (outdoors during daytime), but as soon as it's a little too dark the pictures come out rather terrible.
The GPU is pretty weak, especially compared to what's out there now, but even compared to something like the SGS2.
The touch screen loses sensitivity in certain situations (usually after the recent apps menu has been used). Very common issue (although it might be entirely software-related).
Rather weak signal reception compared to many other phones, both when it comes to the cell radio and Wi-Fi.
The speaker is not loud enough, and many (if not most) also have an issue with it "popping" quietly every time a sound has played.
Battery life is ok, but certainly not exceptional.
The battery door is really flimsy, and brings the phone's feeling of build quality and sturdyness down quite a bit.
So again, while there's no phone out there I'd rather have right now, the GNex is far from perfect.

Only thing I could care about improving is the battery life and GPU.

It could use a much better screen.
A much better speaker.
A faster soc built on a smaller process and next gen GPU.
Above point helps battery life. And any phone could use always use more battery life.
A much better DAC ( audio chip)
And so on. Phone internals can always be improved. Doesn't mean what's in it is junk but this industry moves at a crazy pace.

Well personally I would not trade my nexus for any other current handset.
When I sold my note recently, I had a choice and could have gotten any other current handset. But the nexus was the only one I wanted. And in white!
Stock 4.1 is awesome. The screen and size is very good. Battery life is also very handy I'm finding.
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i think i will maintain my maguro for at least 2 more major versions, if hardware keeps functioning 100%.
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Until yesterday I used my S3 with CM10 as a daily device. After the CM10 debacle that unfolded a couple of days ago and me not really liking TouchWiz I decided to get me a GNex. I'm a real happy camper now and I'm staying with this device until the next nexus comes out.

markdudier said:
Until yesterday I used my S3 with CM10 as a daily device. After the CM10 debacle that unfolded a couple of days ago and me not really liking TouchWiz I decided to get me a GNex. I'm a real happy camper now and I'm staying with this device until the next nexus comes out.
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Next month

kong said:
Next month
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So be it
I learned my lesson. I will stick to Nexus devices from now on.

markdudier said:
Until yesterday I used my S3 with CM10 as a daily device. After the CM10 debacle that unfolded a couple of days ago and me not really liking TouchWiz I decided to get me a GNex. I'm a real happy camper now and I'm staying with this device until the next nexus comes out.
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May i ask what debacle your talking about? Sounds interesting
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maisi said:
May i ask what debacle your talking about? Sounds interesting
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As far as I understood the debacle that caused codeworx to leave the CM10 development for S3 was due to Samsung denying them access to documents and source code to make crucial components work correctly. This includes: bluetooth/wifi tethering not working, GPU hardware drivers for project butter, battery drain etc.
The Wifi tethering is important to me, so I didn't want to wait any longer.
I'm sure you have seen this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTRKL5E9Iak
And this: http://www.androidnext.de/schwerpunkt/codeworkx-cyanogenmod-interview-english/

markdudier said:
So be it
I learned my lesson. I will stick to Nexus devices from now on.
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Lol, same for me.

markdudier said:
So be it
I learned my lesson. I will stick to Nexus devices from now on.
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Couldn't have said it better
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I did say to myself that I wouldn't get anything that wasn't a Nexus after getting my GNex last November but my contract for my HTC Desire is up and I can move to a better plan with a new phone, something like the Galaxy S III 4G... I think I might still stick to the GNex but damn is the S III tempting, especially when 4G is becoming more prominent in Australia.
Tell me not to cave in! Make it so! I don't need anything other than my GNex! Haha... it is away for repairs at the moment, mind you. Had the 'headset always plugged in' issue and makes using the phone frustrating. Can't wait to have it back... my Desire feels so freaking slow in comparison to it!

I fully agree with first post !
the GNexus is my third android phone and it is the best i've ever have. Nice hardware, design and full of nice roms ^^. I'm planning to buy one for my girlfriend (currently running an old Galaxy i9000) and with his low price, that's a great deal ! His hardware may handle a lot of new android version without any problems, so why change ?
After almost one year of release, there are few phones on 720p, and it's the only to run JB natively (i think).
AND at last i hate the idea of a nexus by LG. i've got some of their featurephones (lg viewty and renoir) but they totally missed the android turn. Samsung does good job with nexus device atm.

So here's the deal with me, I have been boggled by the same question since a very long time. But apparently the nexus's price helped me make the decision.
But then came the rumors of a new Nexus in the mill, coming up in a month's time and I am back to where i was 2 months back. I am supposed to order the phone from the states, which is to be sent to me around the end of november. Now the problem i face is just the same, wait for the new one or just get Gnex. Sure i am getting the phone in november so it seems i can wait, but seemingly the problem is much more complicated.
Gnex is sold online only. And same would be the case with the new one i suppose. So if i wait for the new one and it gets released by the end of oct. I can be happy that it will be delivered long before end of november. However, if the phone is released in oct and sold somewhere in nov., with so many orders that come in for the new phone, wouldn't that delay the shipment and surpass the november end deadline i have in mind?
And even if i still take the chances of waiting till the last moment before ordering the GNEX, till what time can i wait considering i should i have some buffer time between ordering and shipment so that i dont miss novemeber end deadline?
And one more thing, since this will be a new nexus, it may have issues as well. Ofcourse we cant be sure of those but what is the probability of those issues to be deal breaker?

I agree. There's no Android phone that even comes close to the latest Nexus, so I stopped looking at other Android handsets a while ago.
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Iphone5-optimus-g-galaxy nexus my expierence

basically ive always been an ios guy and for xmas my gf bought me a nexus 7 and i fell in love with everything i could do with it ! so i decided to hell with my iphone5 ima get a optimus g thinking it would be just as easy to flash roms and make my own. Boy was i wrong =[ . ya the optimus g was fastttt like i mean fast the Gnex isnt even close but seriously it was still on 4.0.4 lol just barley got 4.1 not to mention the only quality rom it has was something that came out only a week ago for it and its cm10.1 .that said cm10.1 had no camera no gps and could mess up your EFS lol yet it was still my DD cause their simply wasnt anything else. After being fed up and realizing that if it took this long to get 4.1 imagine 4.2 or even 5.0 ! so i sold my optimus g bought a Gnex and made 200$ in the process and couldnt be happier! ya this is a muccch slower phone but i love all the great DEVs all the great roms and def vinilla android and getting updates much quicker than a normal android device .. Never a non nexus for me...
well ya just wanted to add my 2 cents and share my expierence

welcome.
is it me or is anyone else noticing a shift of people switching from ios to android as opposed to pre-ics when it was more android to ios switchers. and im talking general public people not modders and rommers.

andrewlax120 said:
welcome.
is it me or is anyone else noticing a shift of people switching from ios to android as opposed to pre-ics when it was more android to ios switchers. and im talking general public people not modders and rommers.
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I think the timing coincides with the lack of major changes that the ios had gone through in comparison to the leaps and bounds that Android is ahead of the game.
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And price is another major factor. More people realize that iphones are simply overpriced. Why should you pay 30-40 percent more for slightly smoother scrolling and more fluid transitions. Today OEMs offer comparable or even better user experience (cmon screen at a good smartphone should be at least 4,3") for significantly lower price.

chefthomas99 said:
I think the timing coincides with the lack of major changes that the ios had gone through in comparison to the leaps and bounds that Android is ahead of the game
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This is the main reason to be honest.. price isn't the issue at all... Lack of innovation changes to their os and their closed system lacking the ability to download applications/music/games/movies online or anywhere outside the app store

That's one of the most important factors indeed, but remember that we talk also about brand loyalty, which in case of apple products/users is usually huge. If the price was comparable I don't think apple wouldn't lose that much of market share at relatively short time.

Yerv Melkonian said:
basically ive always been an ios guy and for xmas my gf bought me a nexus 7 and i fell in love with everything i could do with it ! so i decided to hell with my iphone5 ima get a optimus g thinking it would be just as easy to flash roms and make my own. Boy was i wrong =[ . ya the optimus g was fastttt like i mean fast the Gnex isnt even close but seriously it was still on 4.0.4 lol just barley got 4.1 not to mention the only quality rom it has was something that came out only a week ago for it and its cm10.1 .that said cm10.1 had no camera no gps and could mess up your EFS lol yet it was still my DD cause their simply wasnt anything else. After being fed up and realizing that if it took this long to get 4.1 imagine 4.2 or even 5.0 ! so i sold my optimus g bought a Gnex and made 200$ in the process and couldnt be happier! ya this is a muccch slower phone but i love all the great DEVs all the great roms and def vinilla android and getting updates much quicker than a normal android device .. Never a non nexus for me...
well ya just wanted to add my 2 cents and share my expierence
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I have both(gnex/lgog) and I agree. although I wouldn't say it slow I can get it to get almost 5000 quadrant scores and my optimus it's almost 8000 both are fast. I think my EFS is shot although I'm not worried about it because I don't even pay my bill I use wifi . My sprint gnex is so much fun. I am a flash a holic and flash 2 rounds today although my daily driver is the craziest most Tweakable ROM on the planet.JBSOURCERY . Nothing comes close. like I said cm 10.1 borKed to my EFS although I might just go back to it because it has the T Mobile female GYN and you have the Nexus so you know what that is. I'm all nexus from now on. The n5 lg megladon will be the shi+

As the OP said, his GF bought him a Nexus 7 for Christmas so he played with it and realized Androids potential. If she had not bought it for him, would he ever have switched? The poster who mentioned brand loyalty I think was right. The Apple fans I know wouldn't even consider switching even though they've never as much as held an Android device. I agree that as Android phones become more mainstream and Apple continues on its current path we'll see more and more switching over.
Sadly though, recently I had a painter working here and he heard me tell my Nexus to remind me to call someone at 3. The painter said, "isn't siri great". Most Apple fans don't have any idea what's really going on now.
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I went from iOS to Android a few years ago (iPhone 3S -> HTC Thunderbolt) which was back when Android definitely wasn't as polished as it is today (which at that time iOS was already fairly mature and polished in comparison to Android). The 3S was the first smart phone I had ever owned but I remember getting so much crap from friends and family saying how iOS is so much better and how it was such a bad move to switch to Android. Keep in my mind most of my family has drank the Apple kool-aid so the majority of my family members own an iPhone and/or iPad (brothers, sister, mom, aunts, uncles, etc) so I would hear the typical arguments against Android all the time:
-Not nearly as many apps compared to iOS
-Android crashes a lot and is buggy/slow/laggy, etc.
-Android phones are cheap and break easy
-Music / media management isn't as good as iTunes
-Horrible battery life
-and on and on and on
While some of the arguments may have been at least somewhat valid at the time, what I find interesting is that I still hear some of these 3+ year old arguments against Android today which are in no way shape or form still valid. What it boils down to is ignorance and people not knowing what they are talking about. Many people that I have argued with over this topic have never even owned an Android device, their first smart phone was an iPhone and that is all they have ever known. Or if they did own an Android it was 3-4 years ago and had a bad experience with it.
My favorite argument I have heard recently was about Siri vs. Google voice search. I have had multiple iOS people tell me that Google voice search simply does a Google search and returns a list of web sites that might contain the answer to whatever you asked. They think it just points you to a website it doesn't actually display the information or anything. I proceed to pull out my gNex and ask how many gallons are in a liter or whatever and boom rub it in their face.

jordache16 said:
-Not nearly as many apps compared to iOS
-Android crashes a lot and is buggy/slow/laggy, etc.
-Android phones are cheap and break easy
-Music / media management isn't as good as iTunes
-Horrible battery life
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As a daily user of both iOS & Android, I can with out a doubt say that the battery life thing still applies. My biggest gripe with Android.
You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.

WiredPirate said:
As a daily user of both iOS & Android, I can with out a doubt say that the battery life thing still applies. My biggest gripe with Android.
You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.
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The Galaxy S4 battery life tests are in at gsmarena.com and they look quite promising, but it does have a rather large 2400mah battery - if the device is still thin though who cares.
I've always wondered how Apple was able to make the iphone so battery efficient in web browsing - I think gsmarena.com scored it at 9hrs and our nexus gets like 3-4hrs LOL. I'm not sure if that was done pre-JB days or not, and it would be interesting to see the results with a custom rom/kernel and some underclocking.

akira02rex said:
The Galaxy S4 battery life tests are in at gsmarena.com and they look quite promising, but it does have a rather large 2400mah battery - if the device is still thin though who cares.
I've always wondered how Apple was able to make the iphone so battery efficient in web browsing - I think gsmarena.com scored it at 9hrs and our nexus gets like 3-4hrs LOL. I'm not sure if that was done pre-JB days or not, and it would be interesting to see the results with a custom rom/kernel and some underclocking.
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Sweet, that should get even better when we trade TouchWiz for AOSP. :good:
Personally I don't care how thin or thick the phone is, it's going in a case the minute it comes out of it's box. I'll pay extra for a phone three times as thick with twice the battery.

WiredPirate said:
As a daily user of both iOS & Android, I can with out a doubt say that the battery life thing still applies. My biggest gripe with Android.
You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.
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That makes sense because :
1) Apple controls hardware & software, so they made sure the all components are good and the system is optimized. Easier to do it on limited set of hw.
2) Android can run services in the bg, while there are no such thing in userspace on iOS. Obviously, less power usage, but also less potential functionality.

madd0g said:
That makes sense because :
1) Apple controls hardware & software, so they made sure the all components are good and the system is optimized. Easier to do it on limited set of hw.
2) Android can run services in the bg, while there are no such thing in userspace on iOS. Obviously, less power usage, but also less potential functionality.
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Oh absolutely. I agree there is a well and good reason why Android consumes more power than Apple. The problem is a larger battery is required and rarely offered in a way that the consumer would actually want.
Its like one of those "we need an idea" memes where they double everything on the phone every year: screen size, processors, graphics, speed, half as thin! And then they throw the same old battery they have been using for years in there.

I agree, so far we've seen, only Motorola has actually done anything about it with the Razor MAXX, at least without making a huge phone instead. I'm looking forward to see if they'll deliver something in that area in the future, current pushing of "cores and mpix" doesn't impress me at all.
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WiredPirate said:
As a daily user of both iOS & Android, I can with out a doubt say that the battery life thing still applies. My biggest gripe with Android.
You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.
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Depends on the phone. I get 5 to 6 hours screen on time on my s3.
Much better than my friends iPhone 5

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I agree, so far we've seen, only Motorola has actually done anything about it with the Razor MAXX, at least without making a huge phone instead. I'm looking forward to see if they'll deliver something in that area in the future, current pushing of "cores and mpix" doesn't impress me at all.
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Yes! That is exactly what I am talking about. Its great that new phones have 27 cores and all that, but useless when the phone dies in just a few hours. I have high hopes that the "maxx" type batteries carry over to all Android devices, and last year would have been past time for that.
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Depends on the phone. I get 5 to 6 hours screen on time on my s3.
Much better than my friends iPhone 5
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There are allot of unmentioned factors, apps syncing etc, and those make a huge difference. It's hard for me to accept your conclusion as valid. And of course we all know pics or it didn't happen.
My Mom, Dad, brother and sister all have iP5s, and I have the iPad3, my experience with these devices differ greatly from what you have stated above. I don't think you are intentionally spreading misinformation, but your vague statement about your friends iPhone does not match up with the long term experiences I have had with multiple Apple mobile devices.

My work just issued iPhone 4s to me. Think battery life is about the same as my galaxy nexus with 2100ma battery. I can't stand having to go back to home then settings just to change something simple in my email that should be in email not ios settings. Day 2 tomorrow will see for sure on battery but can't really use it like my own since they monitor it.
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