OpenDesire 4.0.4 against the AuraxTSense 7.6.1 version
Pure Google Android against HTC Widget UI
I was a long time Sense UI fan, then out of curiosity and love towards Google i tried the OpenDesire project by Adam and i like very much the speed and beauty of everything.
What bothered me though was the lack of some settings in camera/videocamera. No touch to focus during video especially.
Today i tried one last test, to see who will win my heart and my Desire over.
THIS is the OpenDesire 4.0.4 shot by video.
Wiped, flashed the AuraxTSense 7.6.1 version (contrary to the title in the actual video) and shot THIS video.
Do you agree that the video by OD is far better and smooth? Only if there was that darn touch to autofocus. Maybe even DURING the shooting?
As for me, i'm nandroidRestoring my way back to OpenDesire.
Thanks for reading!
Says that the video's are private...
yeah, cannot view the videos
I forgot to change the settings.. Will do.. Check in a minute..
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shooting videos is 1 thing..being able to view them decently is another..if i had the sense music player , video player, gallery, radio app, camera functions, video functions pretty widgets that exist in sense, i would go od in a heartbeat..but nope..noway..even the keyboard has to be changed to b fanctional for my language..
I've done this test many, many times.
AOSP roms with Nexus One cyanogen ported camera (like cyanogenmod, defrost and opendesire too) have the advantage of a lower datarate (6Mbit vs 7.5Mbit) which is easier on the microsd and also sometimes of a better auto-iso management especially in not-so-ideal lighting. On the other hand I think the camera app is crap in itself and lacks autofocus badly.
If you have a fast enough microsd and adjust a bit the iso on HTC Sense, you will end up probably with equal or better results.
Oh and by the way, I can't stand stock android lack of polish
I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.
armchairbear said:
I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.
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Did you try messing with the settings of the miui cam
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armchairbear said:
I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.
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The camera on my miui takes amazing pictures I know this because my fiance is a graphic designer for ups and we have printed lots of pics from my miui phone and she always tells me you can have the best camera on the world but if you don't have a good printer you wont get the best quality pictures. It all depends on the output of the printer I'm not saying that you don't have a good printer I'm just saying I have seen the quality of the pics taking by my phone printed at her job and I most said they are amazing and they are huge I'm talking portrait size
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My understanding is the MIUI camera can be installed on AOSP roms, though I have never been able myself. But this would be the best "fix" for the cruddy AOSP cams out there.
Just saying, ROMs like Zeus and GingerBang Sense are just as fast as AOSP in my opinion.
armchairbear said:
I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.
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I agree. For the most part during good light situations, I can get a decent picture using AOSP or MIUI, but if the lighting isn't 100% optimal the pictures don't really turn out that well. Over all the sense software/driver integration does give me better pictures as well. Especially when I view them in full screen on my computer. I've messed around with the settings too, but I just believe that there is optimization in sense because of HTC owning both the software & the drivers for the phone. As funny as it sounds, the better camera quality is the one thing that really keeps me coming back to Sense. I love the camera interface in MIUI, but after a bit, i always come back.
AgalychnisCallidryas said:
Just saying, ROMs like Zeus and GingerBang Sense are just as fast as AOSP in my opinion.
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I still feel aosp is faster than those, but i do agree the difference is not enough leave sense if you need the best camera performance or love the launcher and widgets combination which are awesome. I think many run aosp though because of the combination of mods/themes available and we feel special when we explain to others that we are running "pure" android.
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AgalychnisCallidryas said:
Just saying, ROMs like Zeus and GingerBang Sense are just as fast as AOSP in my opinion.
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I heard the same from others but I think I'm gonna try this theory for myself
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Bringing up this old thread.
I just did some quick testing with the AOSP camera (Aeroevan's CM7.2 kang). I'm using the MIUI camera, but have noticed the same effect no matter what camera app I use (default, CameraZOOM).
It appears that the grainy effect on the pictures is due to the ISO setting failing to adjust with changes in settings. I took a few pics with ISO set to Auto, 100, and 1250, and they all came out identical (same amount of grain, etc).
If the ISO was being adjusted correctly, the ISO 100 pic should have had significantly less noise (grain) than the ISO 1250 one.
As my best guess, it would appear that the AOSP rom's camera driver is incomplete / buggy, as changing the ISO in settings does not change the actual ISO of the camera/picture.
I also noticed that the ISO data is being reported incorrectly in the picture file details. The pic I took @ "ISO 1250" (according to camera settings) is reported as being "ISO-129" in the EXIF data.
I've uploaded a full size pic just for example:
Pic of Chicago
I would think that this picture, taken in broad daylight, should have nearly no noise whatsoever, yet it has quite a bit.
Any feedback on this? Or is this as good as it gets for this camera?
EDIT: Upon further investigation (viewing original resolution pics taken by the ADR6350 on Flickr), it seems that nearly everyone's pics, when viewed at full size, are rather grainy, no matter the light level. Perhaps this camera just isn't very good.
EDIT #2: Here's a pic of a similar scene from an iPhone 4 - there's just no comparison in terms of overall quality (not trying to bash the DINC2, I'm just a bit disappointed with what I'm seeing).
EDIT #3: A pic from an Incredible S. Little noise, even in low light. WTF
dirkdigles said:
Bringing up this old thread.
I just did some quick testing with the AOSP camera (Aeroevan's CM7.2 kang). I'm using the MIUI camera, but have noticed the same effect no matter what camera app I use (default, CameraZOOM).
It appears that the grainy effect on the pictures is due to the ISO setting failing to adjust with changes in settings. I took a few pics with ISO set to Auto, 100, and 1250, and they all came out identical (same amount of grain, etc).
If the ISO was being adjusted correctly, the ISO 100 pic should have had significantly less noise (grain) than the ISO 1250 one.
As my best guess, it would appear that the AOSP rom's camera driver is incomplete / buggy, as changing the ISO in settings does not change the actual ISO of the camera/picture.
I also noticed that the ISO data is being reported incorrectly in the picture file details. The pic I took @ "ISO 1250" (according to camera settings) is reported as being "ISO-129" in the EXIF data.
I've uploaded a full size pic just for example:
Pic of Chicago
I would think that this picture, taken in broad daylight, should have nearly no noise whatsoever, yet it has quite a bit.
Any feedback on this? Or is this as good as it gets for this camera?
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I feel this is true for all AOSP .. the camera feels incomplete at best... It doesn't even focus properly when recording video.. if you start recording, don't get any closer or farther away!!! It won't focus.. Our phone has the capability to take wonderful pictures as long as you stick with Sense.. AOSP will ruin any chance of taking a decent picture with our hardware.. I've tested roms side-by-side and AOSP is at the bottom of the barrel in this category for me..
The Sense camera is significantly better that any AOSP camera in my opinion. I would love to have the time to shoot a photo with AOSP then NAND back to Sense and shoot the same photo to compare.
If no one else does this, I will as soon as I have a good opportunity. Pictures should be posted for comparinson.
TheAtheistReverend said:
The Sense camera is significantly better that any AOSP camera in my opinion. I would love to have the time to shoot a photo with AOSP then NAND back to Sense and shoot the same photo to compare.
If no one else does this, I will as soon as I have a good opportunity. Pictures should be posted for comparinson.
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Please do! I'll try the same; I currently have TSM's vanilla installed in a bootmanager slot.
Update: I just booted into TSM Vanilla to give the camera a quick look. I took a few pics indoors, and changed the ISO for each one. It looks like it's having the same issue! Both pics I took (one @ ISO 100 and the other @ ISO 1250 per the camera settings) came out looking the same, and the EXIF info said they had the exact same ISO.
PS - I linked a couple other pics for comparison in my reply a few posts up. One from an IncS and the other from an ip4
Example 1, Phone = Incredible 2, Fully Enlarged
Example 2, Phone = Incredible 2, Fully Enlarged
These examples seem a bit less noisy ... it's obviously not as good as a dedicated digital camera, but a crapload better than what I'm getting now !!
I love the vintage effects on sense 3.5 roms. I would have to spend 20 minutes in Photoshop to reproduce that.
http://db.tt/ZxhpK8C2
Here's one I just took outside with camera 360 at 8mp on miui
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ericsdeadinside said:
http://db.tt/ZxhpK8C2
Here's one I just took outside with camera 360 at 8mp on miui
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Not bad - do you have some sort of post-processing or color effects enabled? The colors in that pic are bizarre.
Yeah that is on the Vintage setting.
Here's one with no effects
http://db.tt/x5DUhdT4
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ericsdeadinside said:
Here's one with no effects
http://db.tt/x5DUhdT4
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Looks pretty good. Definitely better than what I'm getting.
I just saved your pic file and looked at the properties - for some reason, your file reads as having horizontal & vertical resolution of 96dpi, whereas mine says 72dpi. I wonder if this has to do with the issue ??
Are you using camera 360?
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For my pic I was using the MIUI cam (but I'm running CM7.2). Seems that CameraZOOMfx and the default android camera have the same result for me.
It's almost as if the camera is taking a picture at a lower resolution (like 4MP) and extrapolating (interpolating?) it out to the 8MP picture size (a possible explanation for the the 8MP pictures seeming a lot less sharp than they should be).
Hey Guys,
I was wondering.. Can I get better image capture quality on CyanogenMod 10 with the default (or by mod; app), because standard sucks compared what I had when on completely stock..
I won't switch to a Sense rom since I yet, don't see what are the pros versus Cyanogen.. (any comparison thread/chart?)
Thanks in advance!
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Is there any developement on some non-Sense camera mods? I know the sense framework is required to run the sense camera, but are someone looking for a workaround?
I see my AOKP's got super as an option in the jpeg compression, but it isn't quite as good as the stock camera...
You can always try desensed ROMS that have the possibility to remove some of the HTC stuff
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Camera ZOOM FX
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/10...-new-features/
awesome !
Hello! So after using a couple of roms(currently using the newset ICJ) I noticed the camera quality(or at least that of AOKP/AOSP roms) to be subpar to that of the sense camera you get initially. Right now my friends' brand new One SV takes better photos with its 5MP camera than my One X does with ICJ/Jelly Bam etc. Is this normal for custom ROMs, or am I just overlooking/missing something? Is there is any mod/fix someone could recommend me, as all I've managed to find are mods for Sense-based roms. Thanks in advance.
If you want great camera shots, it's best you stick with Sense roms... AOS/KP's camera quality will remain as it is...
Go to camera settings and select "Super" in jpeg quality....
vin4yak said:
If you want great camera shots, it's best you stick with Sense roms... AOS/KP's camera quality will remain as it is...
Go to camera settings and select "Super" in jpeg quality....
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Yeah I figured as much. Thanks anyway
I have a converted T-Mobile M8 to GPE. I love everything about GPE except for the camera. I have found that I get poor quality pictures when compared to the stock Sense camera. Most photos look washed out. Is anyone using a different 3rd party camera instead of the stock Google one? If so, which ones?
Does anyone else have issues with the camera?
Don't think there is a solution to this. I would say best thing would be to run a customisable ROM and run with sense because sense camera is the best option.