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Epic have 2 different mics?

Do our Epics have 2 mics?
People cannot hear me on a call unless I'm in speakerphone. It seems as though they can hear me blowing into the mic during a regular call if I blow into the hole on the bottom right (plz hold the 6th grade jokes).
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I don't think we have two mics. I believe that the sensitivity of the mic is increased when in speakerphone mode.

Interesting, perhaps I have something stuck deep inside.
Or I have a setting snafoo, though I doubt it, since I have clean wipe flashed 4 roms in the past 24 hours.
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Anyway to up the sensitivity manually until I can figure it out?
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I had a similar (actually opposite issue) as the OP. When I was on speakerphone, no one could hear me. But when I held and spoke on the phone the traditional away (in other words phone up to my ear and not on speakerphone), then people could hear me. Tried reflashing EC05 then OTA to EI22 and that did not fix the issue. Determined it was a hardware issue. Ended up going to Sprint and having phone replaced (I had TEP).

I read recently, maybe today, that our phones have two mics. Unfortunately, I can't remember where I read that, so I can't back it up with a source! Based on the description of both of your problems, it seems logical that the phone has and uses two different mics depending on whether the user is in speakerphone mode or not.

This phone indeed does have two mics. The second microphone is used only for speaker phone, and is located in the right hand portion of the earpiece grille.
What's unfortunate is that although that mic is part of an array that includes the front camera and keyboard and is easily replaceable, the main microphone is on the board and requires the phone to be swapped.
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MeetFace said:
Do our Epics have 2 mics?
People cannot hear me on a call unless I'm in speakerphone. It seems as though they can hear me blowing into the mic during a regular call if I blow into the hole on the bottom right (plz hold the 6th grade jokes).
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This is actually a pretty common symptom of bad mics that come in to our store: no one can hear you talk or even yell, but for some reason, the mic will pick you up blowing in to it. I suspect its because your simply putting more physical pressure on the mic, but I've never been able to come to a good conclusion.
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squshy 7 said:
What's unfortunate is that shield that mic is part of an array that includes the front camera and keyboard and is easily replaceable, the main microphone is on the board and requires the phone to be swapped.
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partly correct- it's on the board with the keyboard, but not the camera, and doesn't require a phone swap. the circuit board can be replaced; i watched the tech replace mine, in store, in about 15 minutes. i was impressed they had the part in stock.
(no insurance, no cost either)

edscholl said:
partly correct- it's on the board with the keyboard, but not the camera, and doesn't require a phone swap. the circuit board can be replaced; i watched the tech replace mine, in store, in about 15 minutes. i was impressed they had the part in stock.
(no insurance, no cost either)
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Ahh you know, your right (look at me, the tech forgetting what the internals of my old phone look like).
BOTH mics are on the keyboard array...it's sticky on one side, and adheres to one side of a gray frame that nestles the motherboard on the other side.
Either way, your correct, the mic is replaceable. Unlike every other phone i work on lol.
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squshy 7 said:
This phone indeed does have two mics. The second microphone is used only for speaker phone, and is located in the right hand portion of the earpiece grille.
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Sinced I sit the phone on its face so the speaker is facing me, that might be why nobody can hear me while I got them on speaker phone. Learn somthing new all the time here.

Ugh, sounds like ill have to send it in to Samsung again. I have squaretrade 2yr, perhaps ill wait a couple weeks until my year warranty is up with Samsung and have then take care of it.
Thanks everyone for your help.
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MeetFace said:
Ugh, sounds like ill have to send it in to Samsung again. I have squaretrade 2yr, perhaps ill wait a couple weeks until my year warranty is up with Samsung and have then take care of it.
Thanks everyone for your help.
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Hmm..i could possibly help you out?
I may have a couple of harvested parts at work, if i can spare one, i could possibly ship it to you...if you feel adventurous enough to take your phone apart. Following my instructions of course lol.
PM me if you want
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This exact thing happened to me after toying around with voodoo sound.
Flash to stock and see if it fixes it. You will need to do this anyways for repair.

squshy 7 said:
Hmm..i could possibly help you out?
I may have a couple of harvested parts at work, if i can spare one, i could possibly ship it to you...if you feel adventurous enough to take your phone apart. Following my instructions of course lol.
PM me if you want
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Snap, I would totally be willing to do this, but I already sent it off. Plus, I still have 1 yr of accidental with SquareTrade.
digiblur said:
This exact thing happened to me after toying around with voodoo sound.
Flash to stock and see if it fixes it. You will need to do this anyways for repair.
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Digi, I tried a couple different versions of CleanGB, which do not have a voodoo kernel, so unfortunately I don't think that will have the same result for me...at least, I surely hope not, haha, I just mailed it off to Sammy last night.
Everyone, thanks for your interest in helping me.

same proble with my phone
Hi friends
Same proble with my mobile,
What is solution for this ?
Kindly help.
squshy 7 said:
Ahh you know, your right (look at me, the tech forgetting what the internals of my old phone look like).
BOTH mics are on the keyboard array...it's sticky on one side, and adheres to one side of a gray frame that nestles the motherboard on the other side.
Either way, your correct, the mic is replaceable. Unlike every other phone i work on lol.
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MeetFace said:
Do our Epics have 2 mics?
People cannot hear me on a call unless I'm in speakerphone. It seems as though they can hear me blowing into the mic during a regular call if I blow into the hole on the bottom right (plz hold the 6th grade jokes).
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My regular Mic went out. Sent mine in for repair and they replaced my Mic unit and it was fine.
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[Q] Does your GNII wobble/rock when it's laying on a flat surface?

Hi,
I'm thinking of getting a GNII. Since it's pretty big, I'll probably be using it while laying it on a flat surface.
Watching this review, I got a bit worried:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VdsMwGWvhO4#t=205s
Doe anyone else's GNII behave like that? if so, is it very noticeable/annoying?
Thanks.

Yes, they all do it if they are bare. The speaker grill has a raised hump on it so that is not touching the desk so the sound on speaker phone isn't muted.
It's a design feature not a fault.
The video reviewer is a fud if he didn't realise that.
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Tomo1971 said:
Yes, they all do it if they are bare. The speaker grill has a raised hump on it so that is not touching the desk so the sound on speaker phone isn't muted.
It's a design feature not a fault.
The video reviewer is a fud if he didn't realise that.
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Thanks for that info.
So the more import question is, is it noticeable or annoying? Will I be able to live with it?

With a nice dual layer case, it sits flat and has no wobbles.
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I have mine in one case or another so don't notice it but I could see if could be annoying if you had your phone flat on a table and you are typing on it.
Realistically though would it not be in a case? Even the thinist of cases would hide it.
But then you won't hear the speaker as well
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Yeah, I guess you're right. I think I'll also be getting a case when I get my GNII.
Thanks guy

Slight rattle noise

Does anyone else have a slight rattle noise coming from the camera area/back corner? You cant really hear it unless you tap on the back of the tablet lightly. My old(2012) nexus doesnt make this sound and not sure if this is normal on the new 1s or not.

i hear a tapping noise when i tap on it.
come on man, do you buy products to find problems? do not make this into the screen lifting issue with the first nexus 7. noone needs you exchanging yours a hundred times taking away possible purchases from other people.

Pretty sure it's normal. Same noise on my Nexus 4.

please dont start star the "screen lift" saga of 2012 with the 2013 model some people look for things wrong.. if you have buyers remorse take it back.

its the camera. you will notice that on a lot of devices with cameras. my Gnex does this, my wifes Droid Razr HD does this as well. my thunderbolt did it too. pretty sure it is something inside the camera housings.
dont tap there. its nothing to worry about.
i swear, the only time i find stuff wrong with my electronics is when OTHER people point them out.

nextelbuddy said:
please dont start star the "screen lift" saga of 2012 with the 2013 model some people look for things wrong.. if you have buyers remorse take it back.
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Buyers remorse? lol really? It was a legit question...thanks for your input tho
turdbogls said:
its the camera. you will notice that on a lot of devices with cameras. my Gnex does this, my wifes Droid Razr HD does this as well. my thunderbolt did it too. pretty sure it is something inside the camera housings.
dont tap there. its nothing to worry about.
i swear, the only time i find stuff wrong with my electronics is when OTHER people point them out.
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My GNex doesnt make this particular sound, it makes a sound from the cover not being flush with the back tho.
Either way not a big deal, was just wondering if it was normal or not.

ridiculous mentality from some people here. A LOT of users, me included, go to forums like XDA to learn about potential build flaws because some of us actually care about getting quality controlled devices for our money. I actually didn't buy the Nexus 10 because of all the reports, both from forums and in reviews, about the bleeding, and I'm grateful for all those reports.
Just because you'd happily pay for a product with obvious defects and then defend the manufacturer to the bone like it was your employer doesn't mean everyone have that attitude. In the year 2012 gluing a screen to a bezel shouldn't have been a problem.
I'm not saying the OP has discovered a flaw here but any report of potential flaws is appreciated by someone like me and your overly defensive mentality is sad to see. Don't decide for others what a flaw is cause it is highly subjective.

junkinmytrunk426 said:
My GNex doesnt make this particular sound, it makes a sound from the cover not being flush with the back tho.
Either way not a big deal, was just wondering if it was normal or not.
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lol, i just took the battery cover off the phone and tapped around, and the rattling got even worse....lol. My new N7 does have the rattling, though I dont think i would have ever noticed it, and I dont think its a defect at all.
mertzi said:
ridiculous mentality from some people here. A LOT of users, me included, go to forums like XDA to learn about potential build flaws because some of us actually care about getting quality controlled devices for our money. I actually didn't buy the Nexus 10 because of all the reports, both from forums and in reviews, about the bleeding, and I'm grateful for all those reports.
Just because you'd happily pay for a product with obvious defects and then defend the manufacturer to the bone like it was your employer doesn't mean everyone have that attitude. In the year 2012 gluing a screen to a bezel shouldn't have been a problem.
I'm not saying the OP has discovered a flaw here but any report of potential flaws is appreciated by someone like me and your overly defensive mentality is sad to see. Don't decide for others what a flaw is cause it is highly subjective.
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i agree with that. its just some times (like the N7 screen lift saga) the defect isn't even noticeable until someone points it out to you.

The volume rocker rattles when I tap it. I've noticed on very smartphone and tablet I've handled pretty much does it as well.

Built like a tank, no issues here.

turdbogls said:
lol, i just took the battery cover off the phone and tapped around, and the rattling got even worse....lol. My new N7 does have the rattling, though I dont think i would have ever noticed it, and I dont think its a defect at all.
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had to test mine without the cover and see if it makes the noise and it does...replaced the cover and now it even makes the noise with the cover on. doh! :crying:
stimr2 said:
The volume rocker rattles when I tap it. I've noticed on very smartphone and tablet I've handled pretty much does it as well.
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my volume rocker is solid, definitely seems like its coming from the camera.

Its the camera lenses. Perfectly normal. All cameras do this to some extent.
My galaxy nexus doesn't.... But remember it having a 0 shutter lag. Maybe it has a unique camera or something. Most other cameras click when tapped.
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jmill75 said:
Built like a tank, no issues here.
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Same, this thing is pretty solid :good:

jmill75 said:
Built like a tank, no issues here.
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Nexcellent said:
Same, this thing is pretty solid :good:
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So i did a exchange and the new 1 i got has the same sound. kinda odd that some people are stating they arent getting the noise from the camera...
Anyone else getting the creaking/rattle?

Its the focus lens, lots of devices do this
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does anyone else have it as bad as me?
I hear it even if i put if I put it down lightly.
example: flat on table with something soft under, pick up top area around 1cm and give it a little force pushing it down.

my first 1 was definitely louder than the replacement, i could hear it through the box. my replacement still does it when i place it on my lap or table, but its not as bad.
im pretty sure all of them do it. so if you dont have any of the other issues(dead pixel/QI not working etc) people are mentioning i would just keep it.

izint said:
does anyone else have it as bad as me?
I hear it even if i put if I put it down lightly.
example: flat on table with something soft under, pick up top area around 1cm and give it a little force pushing it down.
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Yup I have it the exact same. I was nervous cuz I had it in my backpack (in a sleeve tho) and noticed it after I took it out, but if other ppl have it I'll let it go... Certainly seems like the camera

junkinmytrunk426 said:
Does anyone else have a slight rattle noise coming from the camera area/back corner? You cant really hear it unless you tap on the back of the tablet lightly. My old(2012) nexus doesnt make this sound and not sure if this is normal on the new 1s or not.
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Hey,buddy.
I am confused about this , i mean , my nexus 7 has the identical issue even it is a very very slight tap...
Is it similar to yours?
not only the camera area but also the upper part of back cover...

it seems to be a normal to make the noise from the camera lens. i wouldnt worry about it too much.
I am still confused why some others have said they dont have the sound tho.

Blown Speakers??

Just started to play some music the other day and noticed that my speakers are blown, has anybody had this issue?? Will Verizon/HTC warranty the phone for just blown speakers.

gist901 said:
Just started to play some music the other day and noticed that my speakers are blown, has anybody had this issue?? Will Verizon/HTC warranty the phone for just blown speakers.
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if you purchased the device from Verizon you can def get a refurb warranty replacement, I highly recommended dealing with customer service rather than go to the store, (they can give u a new phone anyway unless within 14 days so it's a wasted trip)
1-800-922-0204, just press 0 until it asks for ur billing password and it'll bring you to a rep.
Will be no issues getting refurb with blown speakers.
If wasn't bought from Verizon then I'd call HTC see if they fix for free. I've never sent to HTC, only gotten refurbs from VZW, so no idea how HTC handles these things.
Best of luck!

andybones said:
if you purchased the device from Verizon you can def get a refurb warranty replacement, I highly recommended dealing with customer service rather than go to the store, (they can give u a new phone anyway unless within 14 days so it's a wasted trip)
1-800-922-0204, just press 0 until it asks for ur billing password and it'll bring you to a rep.
Will be no issues getting refurb with blown speakers.
If wasn't bought from Verizon then I'd call HTC see if they fix for free. I've never sent to HTC, only gotten refurbs from VZW, so no idea how HTC handles these things.
Best of luck!
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Thnx andy for the info, will definately give it a go and see what happens.
By the way, I'm on Bone Stock 1.4.1 and loving every sec of it. Great work!!
thnx

I have had two different Ones blow speakers so far. I work in a metal fab/welding shop and the top speaker collects ferrous dust very quick. But, Verizon has sent me two refurb units with no problems. I ended up cutting a screen protector up to cover the speaker grilles and have had good luck since.
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I've had the speaker issue. I believe that mine was also due to metallic dust exposure. Oddly enough, I haven't had a phone with that problem since the original Droid Incredible days. My Thunderbolt, Rezound, and DNA all seemed immune to any speaker distortion issues.
I bought my ONE through Best Buy, so I went through them instead of Verizon or HTC for a replacement/warranty. What a pain in the butt, they replaced it for free, but the replacement phone was refurbished and the screen is not level with the speaker grills. I am not thrilled with the build quality of the replacement, but at least everything works as it should.

I'm telling you, the screen protector with a few tiny holes poked in it is the trick! It does muffle the sound slightly, but the amount of metal that it keeps out is amazing. Just the amount of dust that finds it's way into my pocket is crazy.
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Fix it with a magnet...
I've had this happen on multiple phones from my Inc 1 and up to my HTC One.
I take a magnet I've removed from an old hard drive, and then crank the music while moving the magnet around by the speaker openings. I always pull out some really tiny particles, and have fixed multiple speakers using this method.

Those that have gotten a refurbished device did you relock and return to stock before sending back. I'm having the same issue with my speaker and my headphone jack not working properly. Thanks.

I returned my phone's to the stock ROM, recovery and locked the bootloader but left them s-off when I returned them.
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Any idea on speaker location?

I haven't seen anything regarding speaker location. I assume it's not gonna be front facing.

you assumed right

Correct. It's on the bottom, and, only one.

Big Bad Bummer

i think like Note 7 and iPhone 6S one speaker but good qaulity
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Not sure why they'd go away from the front speaks..

tgyberg said:
Not sure why they'd go away from the front speaks..
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I think it's an extremely strange design choice to not have front facing speakers on any phone (not just the Pixel). If I need to use the phone speaker(s), I really can't think of any situation where I would want the sound pointed away from me. I don't have any of my home stereo or TV speakers facing the wall or floor, and I wouldn't want the same in a phone when I'm trying to consume content. It seems similar to having speakers in your car installed on the outside facing away from you. If I'm having a conversation with someone, I don't talk to the floor or turn around and talk away from the person. I don't understand what benefit the bottom or rear facing speakers give anyone.
Also, I'm sure it's not this simple for the designers and engineers, but on the Pixel, if the speakers are already at the bottom of the phone, wouldn't it seem simple to just have them pointing towards you, instead of down? They could be installed in literally the same place, just with a different orientation.

I'm hoping when they single firing that they mean it's just a single firing into the space into the bottom part of the phone and comes out both speakers. It's mono sound but at least it comes out both slits instead of just one. Wishful thinking though. I feel like they had a spec wishlist that they created back in 2014 or something.

Trooper27 said:
Correct. It's on the bottom, and, only one.
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From what I've seen there are two holes, one of each side of the USB-C port... How is that only one speaker?

tkoreaper said:
From what I've seen there are two holes, one of each side of the USB-C port... How is that only one speaker?
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Right just like iPhones have been the past few years etc.
I am pretty sure I saw a video on YouTube somewhere saying only one fires up. If I can find it I will link it here for you. Of course, I hope I a wrong since I ordered one.

Trooper27 said:
Right just like iPhones have been the past few years etc.
I am pretty sure I saw a video on YouTube somewhere saying only one fires up. If I can find it I will link it here for you. Of course, I hope I a wrong since I ordered one.
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Hmmm, now that I think of it, it could be for the microphone. Here's the video where I noticed it... He even plays some music.
https://youtu.be/O_T5Nd2DkCo?t=4m25s

There is only one speaker....I think the bottom right....but there are two holes just like the iPhone....it is there for symmetry. Just like the top bezel is the size it needs to be to accommodate headphone jack and other stuff....so for symmetry they made the bottom bezel the same size. I wish it was unsymmetrical for the bezel and had a smaller bezel...hence lager screen size with the same phone dimensions.

tkoreaper said:
Hmmm, now that I think of it, it could be for the microphone. Here's the video where I noticed it... He even plays some music.
https://youtu.be/O_T5Nd2DkCo?t=4m25s
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Thanks for that! Cheers.