Hi All
FYI - A new upodate available at HTC for SEA non-branded TP2's.
ROM Version 2.07.707.1
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
http://www.htc.com/sea/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all
This one updates to a new version of Sense Ui and other stuff.
Impressions?
1. No Task Manager that can be utilised from the Home Screen (so how to change apps..?).
No Task Manager also means you can't readily see how much RAM is being hogged by the system.
2. No missed calls provision on Home Screen either..?
You do get the small icon on the top bar, a pop-up message AND the LED (green) actually flashes now - had to hack it before to do that.
3. Perhaps it's just mine, but to me the proximity sensor does not work now - it used too.
4. The shortcut Icons are stupidly large (3 per row).
5. The Programs Tab has been removed - this is a drag as the WinMo Programs area is still not dragable (just a go to the top option).
6. The Music Tab seems to now work better - at least it shows Album Art correctly now!
7. There's a Twitter Tab- not that i use it.
8. Calendar works differently.
9. Older Opera than current.
10. Older Google Maps than current.
11. It seems to be way louder than before too, both thru speaker and earpiece on a call - yay!!
12. The People Tab has changed to the new style - good.
13. FYI, SRS W0W (Sector HD2 version) still sends this version into no wakeup from Stand By mode - Damn!
13. New start animation (HTC-Simply Brilliant).
14. New background animations for Screen and Lock Screen.
15. Still can't believe that a Note file is not finger scrollable (WTF), yet Word is....
16. I have a sneaking suspicion that the battery life has taken a hit too, but unconfirmed at this point.
Lots of other changes to the UI, too numerous to make a big list.
In one way it is an improvement, although (to me) there have been a couple of backward steps, but overall, seems to be good.
One final thing, with this new UI - to me at least - it makes the scren look a little ...smaller.
Cheers
Jabberoo
wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting
mr_sheen said:
wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting
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Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo
jabberoo said:
Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo
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This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though
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AWESOME!!!
Even if Opera is older, actually renders touch.facebook.com alot better than previous releases (ie when ya tap a picture it shows up)
Google Maps 4 loads probably 3 times quicker on this rom than the first official SEA WM6.5
You can tell it to update weather and location on a schedule!! Yay!
It supports turning the ringer down when ya pick up the device, and has a pocket mode that makes it ring louder
It integrates the HTC messaging so ya dont see the ugly MS SMS app anymore
With this ROM, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a TP2 to my non tech savvy friends.
First impressions: I'm more excited than when I first got my TP2! Now to test Coreplayer and xVID AVIs (which where fine with 6.1 and not the 1st 6.5)
mr_sheen said:
This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though
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To the above, yes the Home Screen weather ani is there, but it was the first thing to go - seen it once and after that it just messed with resources.
The same with the annoying uber-flipping clock, maybe good on the HD2 but not so on the TP2 where it tended to be a little laggy and buggy in motion.
I added the X Touch Task Manager back in and now it is as it should have been from the start - much better.
For the Programs Tab, i grabbed Cookies Cab that did some neat stuff, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483. The only down side with this is, as i've just discovered, is that you wont have a landscape Home Screen with the keyboard out...?
I did not really use Opera, just updated it and Google Maps straight away to the latest versions.
Overall, i think it is smoother, a little less laggy and well worth a look.
Did i mention it was louder too?
(I used the Audio Para tweak, but now do not have too)
Cheers
Jabberoo
can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?
x_sliver said:
can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?
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I have the same question, too
Contacts & Messaging sucks
While I can agree with some of the improvements that they have made, both contacts and messaging has been screwed up, a big mess.
Often one of this makes the phone hang and should say that I have reset the phone on more occasions in the last 2 days than I have done it in the last 6 months.
Missing feature of Task Manager from the task bar and the Program Tabs are a big let down.
Damn I am now waiting to get the next release, if we will have one.
anybody knows how to cut the RAM usage down at the start? my old official Sense 2.1 managed to started up at 42 % RAM after the resproxy tweaks and no push internet tweak. It seems that in this ROM those tweeks seems to do nothing, After i did the tweak on this Sense 2.5 ROM, the it starts up at 47%.
Anything new then? Plus there seems to be new entry in the resproxy registry called maxsharememsize or something like that. Should we put that to 0?
Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.
i am now seriously considering switching back to the official sense 2.1
why?
1. The resproxy and no push internet tweak doesnt work. My Ram shot >70% after a day where i use all the feature (twitter tab,album,music,lock screen etc)
2. The messaging app is just...bad. It lags and not responsive sonewhat. Plus after a soft reset it reads the sms that i have in inbox as coming from my sim card contact rather than phone contact. Glitchy.
3. It seems pretty quick after a hard reset, but after all the contacts is in and weather updated + software and such, the home screen and the whoke experience started to lag.
overall i think they should just keep the 2.5 to the HD2 i guess. Our TP2 just wont cut it...
Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?
shortly after applying this ROM, my TP2 fell of the window sill and bounced off the bench into the sink
Its away getting insurance quotes, etc. Having to rely on my Dopod 838 Pro. Yuck...
overall, this new official ROM is far much better than sense 2.1 altho u have to be a lil'conservative on opening programs. One feature I still can get to work perfectly...the FB photo albums on contacts. Not a single pic that I've seen appear on the album,eventho they did show the respective album names and number of pics inside.
Does it Have Vietnamese roms?
Do you think HTC SEA have vietnamese language? how do you switch to another language in HTC WM 6.5.xx?
haoren said:
Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?
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Hi
Not sure of the question here...
You grab the "Touch X Taskmanager.cab", install it, go to settings/system and configure it, voila....!
I found the "Touch_X_Homescreen_Flip_clock_OFF.cab" is good too, getting rid of the unneccessary flipping action which becomes irritating after a short time, the "Touch_X_Left_softkey_as_camera.cab" is worthwhile too, instead of doubling up for Phone or using a quick link space for it.
Hope that helps...
BTW, the Mods to expand the Quick Links (HD2 tweaks) are all useless at this point, handy but useless, as they break Landscape mode with the Keyboard in the out position.
I am still finding that a GPS lock using TomTom can take several minutes to execute on this ROM, so no improvement there. It does work well, just can sometimes take a while to lock (but eventually does...)
Cheers to all
Jabberoo
I had noticed that with the Facebook Albums, too. I'm going to lodge a thing with HTC once I have my phone again...
As for the GPS lock taking several minutes: I get that with a brand new TomTom Go 750 if I travel to a different location with it off, then turn it on. I used to think the TP2 was a POS in that regard, but when the TomTom did it I thought that maybe it wasn't specific to the TP2.
penguinjet said:
Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.
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Never had this issue with the ROM.
I tried to utilise SRS WOW (which is great) but this Standby issue was the end result on the TP2 (any ROM), which was a shame....
Cheers
Jabberoo
i was juss curious as to how other Rhodium owners have their Android setup. As far as looks go. Ive went thru a lot of different UI's already looking for the most stable one. Im Currently running the: Crazy Home Lite, FreedHome, Home(default), TagHome, and ZEAM. All of those are very customizable. Some let u use the Live wallpapers, and some dont. Some will even let u have up to 9 different screens, if u choose. it goes on and on on the type of mods u can do. |ike my AOSP build looks alot better n slicker thn some of these Sense ones. Its just the way i customized it, thats all.
So what are u using? or what have u done? Screenshots, even better..lol
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Stock vanilla 2.1. home & launcher. I would like to get ADW launcher to work though. Those home replacement apps are lame. I had a phase where I would test every new home replacement app, but I always found that a decent modded launcher and stock home was the best combo. Most modded launchers will let you choose the number of home screens and which to set as the default. So many mods that I haven't been able to get working on this build. Wysie's contacts, ADW Launcher, now pushing Meltus' volume hack as I type.
I'm just waiting for the Evo 4G and Galaxy S to launch to make my decision on what phone to get. I'm not disparaging the TP2, I just obviously need Android on a native device. I need options.
cashless said:
Stock vanilla 2.1. home & launcher. I would like to get ADW launcher to work though. Those home replacement apps are lame. I had a phase where I would test every new home replacement app, but I always found that a decent modded launcher and stock home was the best combo. Most modded launchers will let you choose the number of home screens and which to set as the default. So many mods that I haven't been able to get working on this build. Wysie's contacts, ADW Launcher, now pushing Meltus' volume hack as I type.
I'm just waiting for the Evo 4G and Galaxy S to launch to make my decision on what phone to get. I'm not disparaging the TP2, I just obviously need Android on a native device. I need options.
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The hottest, most advanced phone coming out is the Dell Streak. It drops this summer or september. Its a fully fledged 5 in Tablet PC with Capacitive touch screen, multitouch, Cam on the front and back(dual cam), 5in screen, Snapdragon processor, has latest bluetooth, wifi, and check this 3G CONNECTIVITY YEAHHHHHHHH....which means i can juss plop my sim in there and im good to go because its also a phone but being marketed as a Fully capable Tablet PC. My pops getting the EVO soon. ive been trying to school him on it and this website.
cashless said:
Stock vanilla 2.1. home & launcher. I would like to get ADW launcher to work though. Those home replacement apps are lame. I had a phase where I would test every new home replacement app, but I always found that a decent modded launcher and stock home was the best combo. Most modded launchers will let you choose the number of home screens and which to set as the default. So many mods that I haven't been able to get working on this build. Wysie's contacts, ADW Launcher, now pushing Meltus' volume hack as I type.
I'm just waiting for the Evo 4G and Galaxy S to launch to make my decision on what phone to get. I'm not disparaging the TP2, I just obviously need Android on a native device. I need options.
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haved u ever tried to use the MetaMorph? i tried but it says i need busybox. if u look n the system file processes or whatever, we already have busybox or some version of it already installed in our builds. Its just not active or i dont know how to activate it to use it.
Yeah, I used MetaMorph to theme some parts of some former builds. I haven't tried it on the TP2 though.
I'm pretty sure busybox is in AOSP. Try running just "busybox" in terminal, you'll see that it at least is loaded. Whether it works fully or not, I haven't been able to confirm. I actually used some busybox commands when I was pushing the .csv volume hacks earlier today, but again, that didn't work.
yeah, ive seen it in my AOSP. Just havent been able to activate or use it to allow Metamorph to wrk. Metamorph keeps telling me i need busybox..figures..lol
demandarin said:
yeah, ive seen it in my AOSP. Just havent been able to activate or use it to allow Metamorph to wrk. Metamorph keeps telling me i need busybox..figures..lol
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I love AOSP.
Sense is a waste of resource for me--eye candy without significant UI improvement.
Hello,
I am currently on SlimICS, but since the beginning I am really annoyed by the ICS recent apps menu (when long pressing the home button), which shows minatures of the recent apps.
The thing takes several seconds to pop up, and then you need to scroll up and down to find the app you want to fall back to ; usually it also lags quite a lot when doing that (different roms, same issue, don't think it's my phone).
Besides having miniatures being irrelevant in my opinion, switching to a different application became rather long with ICS, and I really miss the Froyo/GB way, with just the list of icons popping up instantly --all the icons showing up in the screen.
I am looking for a mod that could change that ICS recent app menu to the one used in earlier versions of Android. Does anyone know if that exists, or would know how to create it ?
Cheers
I'm using an app called "morerecent" from the market. Same recent view as gb. I've linked it to another app called "swipestarter" so I can launch it from a screen swipe.
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not a bad workaround, yes. However I had tested an AOKP rom few months ago, which I remember was offering different kinds of such list, including the Froyo/GB style. Maybe I can try to extract the relevant files from the rom and push them to my own.
I don't think that could work at all given my current knowledge though
I am new to the whole flashing roms thing but managed to get cm10 on my phone. I have a few questions and also would like to know if there is a better rom. First question is why when I hold the home button there is no task manager just where I can switch to different apps? Second are these apps all running and draining my battery? Third is there a rom with a better camera app? I really liked the stock camera app that came with the phone but I know I can't get that? Another question is why can't I set the double home tap in cm10? I'd like that for voice search if there's a way. Last question I have is, is there a rom that is like the stock one that came with my phone but runs jelly bean? I know touchwiz has a lot of bloadware but I liked the overall options it had (camera app, task manager built into app switcher, etc). Thanks for all the help and sorry if I've posted in the wrong place I'm just looking for help.
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1) The task manager is part of TouchWiz (samsung twist on Android) and not part of the original android os. As far as I can tell, cyanogenmod tries to get close to clean android as possible.
2) When you hold the home button and see a list of apps, like ios, those are list of recently opened apps. They may or may not be running. In most cases its best to just leave it. Task managers, clearing ram, etc all of those don't really work. You can read/search why it doesn't. In short, you kill it, you either need to load it, or it loads by it self again (services)
3) Try looking for a better replacement for camera in the play store? Not really sure what you mean by better.
4) that's one thing I don't like about android; it doesn't have the ios activator identical. You can hold the menu button and it opens search. You can set another action with the menu button in CM10 by going to settings>system>hardware keys
5) I have personally tried a note ii and Galaxy S3 sprint port by the same dev. I'm on mobile so I won't be able to link you. Search for it
Best of luck
sixxbob said:
I am new to the whole flashing roms thing but managed to get cm10 on my phone. I have a few questions and also would like to know if there is a better rom. First question is why when I hold the home button there is no task manager just where I can switch to different apps? Second are these apps all running and draining my battery? Third is there a rom with a better camera app? I really liked the stock camera app that came with the phone but I know I can't get that? Another question is why can't I set the double home tap in cm10? I'd like that for voice search if there's a way. Last question I have is, is there a rom that is like the stock one that came with my phone but runs jelly bean? I know touchwiz has a lot of bloadware but I liked the overall options it had (camera app, task manager built into app switcher, etc). Thanks for all the help and sorry if I've posted in the wrong place I'm just looking for help.
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Nooby to nooby lol...I was just going to try that cm10 rom but seeing what you wrote not sure I want too at this time but I think the current Rom I am using may be something you will like an enjoy..it's pretty much how the phone was stock.
All the options you asked about are still there, it's is just a bit more cleaned up and seems to run faster over stock, as of now I don't see any issues yet.
The link for the rom is below, make sure you back up and follow the op installation instruction, as this stuff is very confusing lol
Hope this helps
Serenity 1.2 gnote port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951115&goto=newpost
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