Perfect Build for R800x ? - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First let me start by saying I apologize if this post does not meet Development thread criteria.
Im new to Xperia Play but there are a lot of different options and ideas floating around for different roms and kernels all seem to be great works in progress with promising results so far.
It seems for r800x that all custom kernels break either the back camera, mms, and wifi, if not all three at the same time broke.
I tried FXP042, I tried a UK system flash with doomkernel, and I tried 2.3.3 system.img with all kernels. Which all gave me the same broken functions different brakes per different rom. . . . Now with all that being said (most was prolly already know sorry just wanted to be clear on my post)
Im using the 2.3.3 system.img that was posted in the state of development page. And Im using Doomlords V4 4.0.1.A.283 FW kernel. Its runs @ 2000MHZ just fine and has not forced a re boot or anything ( I flashed this setup yesterday)
But I got usual problems, no wifi and no rear camera. The front camera seems to work just fine and mms sends and recieves. It does not seem to matter custom rom or stock on r800x, only once you change kernel these things break.
The Perfect build :
-A system with working Timescape menus and apps/widgets ( I think the timescape features are a must on xperia play)
-Doomlords kernel (because it clocks highest compared to anything else)
Almost seems worth stopping development of different roms and if everyone just focused on Rear Camera , MMS , and Wifi issues with dooms kernel on r800x using a stock system then wouldnt we be able to build custom roms from there once problems are solved?
Im sorry for such a long post I hope this is ok, and if I have anything wrong please let me know, im trying to learn this pretty good. Thanks for reading!

I have an R800x and for now I just returned back to stock. I hate stock compared to CM7, but it's far more stable.

Im not saying run stock, I like custom roms.
But the problems are the same in stock or custom, once you change kernel something doesent work..some of which has to do with lack of kernel sources for r800x I think. Some of these custom roms work just fine if you flash back 2.3.2 stock kernel in them.

Did you flash official stock ROM first? Kernel does not include radio and if you missing correct radio it would explain why WiFi is having problems.

This thread should be in general. Just for your reference: typically you shouldn't start a thread in development unless you have something you've developed.
Furthermore. I know it sucks but this has all been covered before. There are no kernel sources for the r800x yet. Until this changes we are going to be in this same boat.
Sent from my R800x using xda premium

216Monster said:
First let me start by saying I apologize if this post does not meet Development thread criteria.
Im new to Xperia Play but there are a lot of different options and ideas floating around for different roms and kernels all seem to be great works in progress with promising results so far.
It seems for r800x that all custom kernels break either the back camera, mms, and wifi, if not all three at the same time broke.
I tried FXP042, I tried a UK system flash with doomkernel, and I tried 2.3.3 system.img with all kernels. Which all gave me the same broken functions different brakes per different rom. . . . Now with all that being said (most was prolly already know sorry just wanted to be clear on my post)
Im using the 2.3.3 system.img that was posted in the state of development page. And Im using Doomlords V4 4.0.1.A.283 FW kernel. Its runs @ 2000MHZ just fine and has not forced a re boot or anything ( I flashed this setup yesterday)
But I got usual problems, no wifi and no rear camera. The front camera seems to work just fine and mms sends and recieves. It does not seem to matter custom rom or stock on r800x, only once you change kernel these things break.
The Perfect build :
-A system with working Timescape menus and apps/widgets ( I think the timescape features are a must on xperia play)
-Doomlords kernel (because it clocks highest compared to anything else)
Almost seems worth stopping development of different roms and if everyone just focused on Rear Camera , MMS , and Wifi issues with dooms kernel on r800x using a stock system then wouldnt we be able to build custom roms from there once problems are solved?
Im sorry for such a long post I hope this is ok, and if I have anything wrong please let me know, im trying to learn this pretty good. Thanks for reading!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286765
This thread will be of interest to you.

Leraeniesh said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286765
This thread will be of interest to you.
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I commented on that one, it was very interesting actually, Thats what I would love to see for r800x with dooms kernel, and thank you for sharing though!
CTPAHHIK said:
Did you flash official stock ROM first? Kernel does not include radio and if you missing correct radio it would explain why WiFi is having problems.
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I flashed 2.3.2 full system, then booted, turned off and flashed doomlords kernel, left off and flashed 2.3.3 system.img and booted.

antEris said:
This thread should be in general. Just for your reference: typically you shouldn't start a thread in development unless you have something you've developed.
Furthermore. I know it sucks but this has all been covered before. There are no kernel sources for the r800x yet. Until this changes we are going to be in this same boat.
Sent from my R800x using xda premium
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Sorry for the double posting sorta then! ... Hopefully something moves forward on these kernel sources

You should check this thread out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297342
I followed the instructions and an running cm7 2.3.5 overclocked to 1.5GHz and it has been working great. I have noticed that the ringer and alarm volumes are pretty quiet but not too bad and my battery doesn't last as long but other than that the ROM has been running flawlessly for me at least.
Sent from my R800x

Add in to my last post.
Camera is not working correctly. It hangs after taking a picture.
Sent from my R800x

216Monster said:
The Perfect build :
-A system with working Timescape menus and apps/widgets ( I think the timescape features are a must on xperia play)
-Doomlords kernel (because it clocks highest compared to anything else)
Almost seems worth stopping development of different roms and if everyone just focused on Rear Camera , MMS , and Wifi issues with dooms kernel on r800x using a stock system then wouldnt we be able to build custom roms from there once problems are solved?
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The problem is in the kernel. Not the system. The kernel is what breaks wifi. Honestly for me that is the biggest problem. i can deal with no mms but i cant do without wifi.

iliketrains said:
The problem is in the kernel. Not the system. The kernel is what breaks wifi. Honestly for me that is the biggest problem. i can deal with no mms but i cant do without wifi.
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I know , sadly once you change the kernel something breaks.
I agree though, mms is a not so bad lose, but no wifi just sucks.
I would say that the developers involved in this forum are probally gonna figure something out they have done some really cool stuff so far thats made the phone worth getting

ticklemegavin said:
Add in to my last post.
Camera is not working correctly. It hangs after taking a picture.
Sent from my R800x
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On part of that thread from your first post another user named JasonKnight posted that FXP025 had working camera and wifi , but wifi would "suck the battery dry, but still worked" he says. Im gonna download that now and see how that goes.

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[Q] r800i best ROM / ROM comparison or reviews etc?

Hi XDA devs and lurkers!
I'm new to both the XDA forums and flashing Android although I've been a 'regular' Linux user since '96. I've owned Zaurii etc so I'm not scared of the terminal, compilation etc but I don't know much about Android and its various spin-off ROM/distros. I own a UK, unlocked Xperia Play r800i thats still running stock .42 which I had to factory reset over xmas as it was misbehaving and now its time to get it updated or switch ROM but I don't know if I'm best sticking with the latest stock or going with an alternate ROM?
I'm not really a gamer and the xperia pad is really just a novelty to me that I use to show off to gamers with although I think it'd be a shame if I could no longer use the pad and sneak the odd N64, PSX or MAME game in so I'd prefer that to work. What I do definitely need to work are the standard phone functions, the camera and GPS/sat nav. Apart from that I want stability, decent battery life and speed like everyone else. I was planning on sticking with GB and stock or maybe a custom stock unless there are real gains in stability or battery life to be had from updating to ICS or JB.
I've wasted a few days now trying to use SE's update service and PC companion under XP, 7 and OSX on different machines and with different USB chipsets and with different cables and it didn't work under any config! This is why I said I'd never buy another SONY product is it? Actually it was when they stole Linux from the PS3 users who took advantage of that feature, maybe even bought it especially for that but thats another story! Anyway, because of this I have not been able to download the latest stock ROM which my phone says is now up to .79 but I've read .84 is out now too?
Does anyone have a working link for a .79 (or .84) FTF file? I have only been able to find .42 and .62 stock FTFs after spending most of the day yesterday looking. Otherwise, maybe I'd be better off with a custom ROM? If so, which one and why? There are lists of r800 compat roms in both a couple of sticky threads in these XDA Xperia Play forums and on the XDA r800 wiki page but none of these lists include any notes or recommendations.
I'm hoping some kind soul will take pity on my Android n00b ass and spare me days or weeks of flashing roms and trawling these forums by answering as many of my questions as they can?
Thanks for your help!
Dan
pfmdan said:
Hi XDA devs and lurkers!
I'm new to both the XDA forums and flashing Android although I've been a 'regular' Linux user since '96. I've owned Zaurii etc so I'm not scared of the terminal, compilation etc but I don't know much about Android and its various spin-off ROM/distros. I own a UK, unlocked Xperia Play r800i thats still running stock .42 which I had to factory reset over xmas as it was misbehaving and now its time to get it updated or switch ROM but I don't know if I'm best sticking with the latest stock or going with an alternate ROM?
I'm not really a gamer and the xperia pad is really just a novelty to me that I use to show off to gamers with although I think it'd be a shame if I could no longer use the pad and sneak the odd N64, PSX or MAME game in so I'd prefer that to work. What I do definitely need to work are the standard phone functions, the camera and GPS/sat nav. Apart from that I want stability, decent battery life and speed like everyone else. I was planning on sticking with GB and stock or maybe a custom stock unless there are real gains in stability or battery life to be had from updating to ICS or JB.
I've wasted a few days now trying to use SE's update service and PC companion under XP, 7 and OSX on different machines and with different USB chipsets and with different cables and it didn't work under any config! This is why I said I'd never buy another SONY product is it? Actually it was when they stole Linux from the PS3 users who took advantage of that feature, maybe even bought it especially for that but thats another story! Anyway, because of this I have not been able to download the latest stock ROM which my phone says is now up to .79 but I've read .84 is out now too?
Does anyone have a working link for a .79 (or .84) FTF file? I have only been able to find .42 and .62 stock FTFs after spending most of the day yesterday looking. Otherwise, maybe I'd be better off with a custom ROM? If so, which one and why? There are lists of r800 compat roms in both a couple of sticky threads in these XDA Xperia Play forums and on the XDA r800 wiki page but none of these lists include any notes or recommendations.
I'm hoping some kind soul will take pity on my Android n00b ass and spare me days or weeks of flashing roms and trawling these forums by answering as many of my questions as they can?
Thanks for your help!
Dan
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I dont have the ftf's but in your choice with ROMs, seen as u want something fast but still able to play emulators id recommend JB. ICS was ok probably CM9 & AOKP where the 2 ROMs I used. But you will need to flash farenheits touchpad fix.
Theres about 6 ROMs at the moment for JB. I use my own obviously which is PACman (mix of cm9, aokp,paranoid android and miui) but with the choice of multibooting I also have cm9 & AOKP in different slots which are accesible to boot through recovery at anytime. Also I added farenheiths touchoad fix into PACman source so no need to flash anything to fix it.
Choice is yours at the end of the day, but I find JB alot faster / smoother then ICS.
Sent from my GT-I9300 On Official JB
I use this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854682
Is the best ICS ROM that I ever try. But yes, JB is faster than ICS.
Thanks wedgess and nikiticos for your suggestions!
Last time I was looking into roms for my xperia the consensus seemed to be to avoid ICS or JB if you wanted a stable and fully working phone but it sounds like times have changed and its good to hear that my joypad should work under JB!
I like the sound of your rom wedgess so I hope to try that soon. I don't see any real reason to try any ICS roms but I'd still like some links to the latest stock ftfs and it'd be good to know what the best stock based rom is too as thats another thing I'd like to try. From these two responses though its sounding like there isn't much interest in GB roms any more?
pfmdan said:
Thanks wedgess and nikiticos for your suggestions!
Last time I was looking into roms for my xperia the consensus seemed to be to avoid ICS or JB if you wanted a stable and fully working phone but it sounds like times have changed and its good to hear that my joypad should work under JB!
I like the sound of your rom wedgess so I hope to try that soon. I don't see any real reason to try any ICS roms but I'd still like some links to the latest stock ftfs and it'd be good to know what the best stock based rom is too as thats another thing I'd like to try. From these two responses though its sounding like there isn't much interest in GB roms any more?
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Ye JB was very unstable back when it first came out. But I got camera working,CosmicDan got proximity sensors fixed and Farenheits touchpad fix so it all became better. Personally I stay away from ICS due to the fact of it been a RAM hogger. JB seems to deal with it alot better.
For both my own JB kernel and CosmicDans JB kernel you will need to flash the ftf in our kernel threads OP. Reason being they both use custom partitions which give 610mb in internal storage. In this ftf vendor partitions are unlocked. In other ftfs partitions are locked beside the r800x.
Id say try them out. Maybe take advantage of the multiboot feature which will alow u to boot between JB and ICS (cm9 based roms only). I havent used it personally but if I was to go back to ICS it would be either Sechkos port of ICS pureness or CosmicDans MIUI australia.
Sent from my GT-I9300 On Official JB
wedgess said:
Ye JB was very unstable back when it first came out. But I got camera working,CosmicDan got proximity sensors fixed and Farenheits touchpad fix so it all became better. Personally I stay away from ICS due to the fact of it been a RAM hogger. JB seems to deal with it alot better.
For both my own JB kernel and CosmicDans JB kernel you will need to flash the ftf in our kernel threads OP. Reason being they both use custom partitions which give 610mb in internal storage. In this ftf vendor partitions are unlocked. In other ftfs partitions are locked beside the r800x.
Id say try them out. Maybe take advantage of the multiboot feature which will alow u to boot between JB and ICS (cm9 based roms only). I havent used it personally but if I was to go back to ICS it would be either Sechkos port of ICS pureness or CosmicDans MIUI australia.
Sent from my GT-I9300 On Official JB
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Is for the stability that im not using JB. The Stock based ROM that I mention later is the best that you can get with ICS. I'm using it with Lupus Kernel and overclocked to 1.2 (min 460) and also I erase many stuff with Link2SD because there are many garbage you really don't need. And I've got a great experience with this ROM. Give a try if you want, I recommend it.
DL?
Hi wedgess!
I'd like to have my first go at using flashtool tonight to flash your ROM but where do I download it?
This thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628197
Doesn't even list JB roms such as yours.
You can find any of my work by clicking on my profile -> statistics -> Find all threads started by wedgess
But to make it easier for you
- PACman ROM v5 thread here
You will need to flash this stock ftf first to use the kernels as they have vendor unlocked partitions
Theres also a link in PAC thread to LuPuS-v7 kernel, if you want to read up a bit on multiboot(recommended) or there is this great guide by fma
Put the PAC-v5.zip onto sdcard. LuPuS-v7 is inside the PAC ROM's .zip just extract the kernel.img from the PAC-v5.zip and flash the kernel.img in flashtool via fastboot mode.

[Q] So I rooted my phone, now what?

Hello again guys,
I sucessfully rooted my phone but now I have a problem. I have read through alot of forums and sites and I guess the next logical step is to get a new rom and kernel. Now I have done alot of reading about all this but I'm getting quite confused between the pair. From my understanding the kernel controls all the complex stuff like making your phone run faster/slower and increasing/decreasing battery life.... I'm stumped at what a rom is,it's like, the operating system but custom ones are more streamlined?
So what I'm asking for is a little information and some suggestions of what I should put onto my phone, I read something about a smartassv2 which is supposed to keep the phone more balanced, now im sure if it is a kernel or a governor?
Any help would be apprciated.
Have you put cwm or different recovery on your phone yet. Also do you have the CDMA or gsm version
Sent from my Marvelc using Tapatalk 2
smokeylt1 said:
Have you put cwm or different recovery on your phone yet. Also do you have the CDMA or gsm version
Sent from my Marvelc using Tapatalk 2
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Yeah, the utility I used to root it also installed cwm, I checked it out and did a backup which should be on my SD card now.
beleive it's gsm, it has a sim card and is on T-mobile.
Ive just installed link2sd and partitioned my sd card, was able to move over a game that I couldnt originally get over to the sd card, saving a bit of space.
Also with link2sd I was able to delete preinstalled bloat like twitter, friendstream, news, weather, stocks, etc.
So far a good day
LowKee said:
Hello again guys,
I sucessfully rooted my phone but now I have a problem. I have read through alot of forums and sites and I guess the next logical step is to get a new rom and kernel. Now I have done alot of reading about all this but I'm getting quite confused between the pair. From my understanding the kernel controls all the complex stuff like making your phone run faster/slower and increasing/decreasing battery life.... I'm stumped at what a rom is,it's like, the operating system but custom ones are more streamlined?
So what I'm asking for is a little information and some suggestions of what I should put onto my phone, I read something about a smartassv2 which is supposed to keep the phone more balanced, now im sure if it is a kernel or a governor?
Any help would be apprciated.
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smartassv2 is governer you can use cfq scheduler with it.
about suggestions:
after rooting you have two options:
use cyanogenmod roms:
cm9.1/cm10
(original modpunk cm9.1 ,speed droid,jelly king,miui etc)
use stock sense roms:
(wildchild etc,sense 3.5 etc)
these all are main roms after there are many variations like pacman rom,aokp build cm9 but they are not much stable at this time so.
crossfire77 said:
smartassv2 is governer you can use cfq scheduler with it.
about suggestions:
after rooting you have two options:
use cyanogenmod roms:
cm9.1/cm10
(original modpunk cm9.1 ,speed droid,jelly king,miui etc)
use stock sense roms:
(wildchild etc,sense 3.5 etc)
these all are main roms after there are many variations like pacman rom,aokp build cm9 but they are not much stable at this time so.
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Sorry to be a pain can you give me a little info about the listed roms? You put cm9.1/cm10 then the others in brackets, are they just like the same roms but with slight differences or is cynaogenmod a kinda name for those type of roms?
EDIT: Just looked up CyanogenMod.org, doesnt show that it supports HTC Wildfire S.
LowKee said:
Sorry to be a pain can you give me a little info about the listed roms? You put cm9.1/cm10 then the others in brackets, are they just like the same roms but with slight differences or is cynaogenmod a kinda name for those type of roms?
EDIT: Just looked up CyanogenMod.org, doesnt show that it supports HTC Wildfire S.
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official cyanogenmod isn't support wildfire s.so dev made here unofficial cynogenmod which support cm9.1 and cm10 with some bugs.
that is jelly king cm10 based :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2075272
that is speed droid cm9.1 and cm10 based:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867712
this is original modpunk cm9.1 rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633198
note:
cm=cyanogenmod
cm9.1 aka ICS 4.0.4
cm10 aka JB 4.1.2
ps there are many other roms based on cm10 like pacman,miui and also slimroms ,paranoid(its tablet ui rom you can change dpi of any app widget its benefit of this rom)
but i havent tried them but you can.
Personal oppinion
When I rooted my wildfire s I was exactly like you. I started wondering what I should do or where I could find it.
After testing a few roms I will tell you what worked for me: Test different roms till you find the one that suits you.
Anyway, I'll tell you my advice:
- WildJOY joyOS First rom I tested. No bugs found.
- Modpunk's CM10 As far as I've read the rom every one uses as the base for their own ones.
- JellyKing This is the one I'm using right now. Active development and really smooth.
Jelly King V2.0
I flashed my phone with Jelly King V2.0 4 days back. Its working very smoothly.
You get 69 MB of internal space to install things.
Panorma mode in camera etc. Try it. you'll love it.
one Q: shall i flash the Kernel v2.1 with jelly king v2.o!! everything seems working fine without the kernal
Amar.B said:
one Q: shall i flash the Kernel v2.1 with jelly king v2.o!! everything seems working fine without the kernal
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I have that rom without that kernel and the only bug I've found for the moment is the 3G connection one. However Kantry123 is working hard on it.
Silcet said:
I have that rom without that kernel and the only bug I've found for the moment is the 3G connection one. However Kantry123 is working hard on it.
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I was v.happy with v1.3 dedoxed i had no problem with it till yesterday started to have problem with viber ''NO SOUND'' , skype signing out when i try to make a skype phone call.. i tried to many things re-flashing the Room without wiping data factory sittings No backup lool so today i flashed the V2.0 with full wipe but its kinda lagy!! not smooth like the older one !! Kantry 123 made amazing job i really appreciate his hard work :good:
I don't find it that laggy as you say. Maybe it's because i don't spect too much from my little device. If i were you i'd try the kernel to test if it goes smoother or not.
Silcet said:
I don't find it that laggy as you say. Maybe it's because i don't spect too much from my little device. If i were you i'd try the kernel to test if it goes smoother or not.
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like i said v1.3 the best Rom i ever used better than any custom Room Running 4.1.2.. okay please let me know if v2 kernel is any better than newest one... Viber still having problem with communication !! i can`t hear anything am i the only one who have problem with viber !!

Is rooting+flashing custom rom a solution to my "prob" ?

Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
wtr_dhd said:
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ?
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally, or even just recieving new updates to a current ROM.
sure dude why not.. if u root u can overclock and thus increasing your performance, rom selection is self choice related try every rom and kernel and stick to the one you love
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
WiredPirate said:
Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally. Or even just updates to those ROMs.
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
wtr_dhd said:
What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Ok thx, should try out CM then maybe, seems the most logical step too. I consciously didn't use the words "best rom" , as that's indeed each one to its own. Though, smoothness is imo an objective thing.
One of the best things about flashing a custom Rom and Kernel is the Fast Charge support! Pretty much if you just use a standard USB port on your PC it will charge as fast as a wall charger.
wtr_dhd said:
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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First question... Have you rebooted in awhile?
Second question... How many background tasks are constantly running.
Custom ROM/Kernel makes sense only if you go for a minimalistic ROM/fine-tuned kernel. Honestly, Stock ROM is fine, unless you need features missing. Or look for just straight optimized ROMs like RasBeanJelly Vanilla and others that are only trying to fix bugs and not add bloat.
Kernel, pick your flavor, but always go with 'stable' ones and not nightlies if you want to avoid issues.
For me, I do Stock ROM (or would consider RasBeanJelly Vanilla) at best, and Franco Kernel (though stock is good enough).
Another point... Key Lime Pie (v. 5.0) will be announced likely in a few weeks at Google I/O 2013. Why deal with unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMS, and Kernels, then to have to wait for source code to be released to get the newest and latest?
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
Have you tried to wipe data?
You can try this first if you like stock. If you want to try a smooth custom rom I recommend you xylon + ak kernel.
wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs, but you need to have stock kernel and no other system apps that are not apart of Google's stock Android. However, you wouldn't wait anyways for OTAs since you can just flash the updates that appear on XDA once they arrive. Either via fastboot or the custom recovery (if they work).
If you go to a custom ROM, you will not receive OTAs, (or shouldn't if the ROM was built right). You will have to wait for the ROM to be upgraded by the maintainer of it.
dude try something new other than stock..
CM 10.1 + ak diamond
governor = ondemand
stable,good speed..
give it a try
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs,
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I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
bk201doesntexist said:
I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
wtr_dhd said:
Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Again, if you alter system files the OTA will fail, if it needs to update those.
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
I am using Purity with Leankernel. Gives me a smooth experience and great battery life.
Also it has the PIE and you can use XPosed framework to get Per App DPI with any ROM like I do.
But I have tried almost all the ROMS in the development section except for a couple maybe. I keep returning to Purity, Vanir and Cataclysm most of the time when I have something important come up and I cannt flash a new ROM every other day.
wtr_dhd said:
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
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The answer should be obvious... yes.
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[Q] Just want a stable phone, thats all...

Hi guys, I am a BASIC android user with BASIC phone needs. Unfortunately I own a HTC Desire Z with Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread) and the very crapy HTC Sense 2.1 thats keeps on slowing down the phone and mostly rendering it beyond the point of regular usage.
I want the cleanest possible, fully functioning Android version available, like on Nexus phones. Just a plain, simple, clean and basic Android version. No need for overclocking, Sense crap, MIUI interfaces or other spectaculair may-work-may-not-work-brick-my-phone stuff, just a simple working smartphone, you can call with, send text messages with, Viber, Skype or Whatsapp with. You know, kinda like old people do with the phone
So 2 questions:
1. Which version would you guys recommend as being the cleanest one available on the forum?
2. How on earth do I get there? I have basic/bit advanced knowledge about rooting phones, Kernels, radio versions, etc, but this HTC phone is beyond me. Should I first root it, then CID Unlock/ s-Off it, do I first have to downgrade it to Froyo, etc etc etc. I know the easiest answer is RTFM, or use the search function on this forum first, but with my basic knowledge I cant seem to figure it out with the tons and tons of information thats out there on the forum.
So please, a few pointers, short first-this-then-that guidelines, and I'm sure I will get there.
Have a great weekend, DaMO
First of all, you're in the wrong section.
Second : The best rom without any trouble is this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480
If you want more feature : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Both are very stable. Very fast. No problem at all.
But I have to say, these time, most of recent roms are pretty reliable.
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
damo666 said:
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
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The deamon allow you to control overclocking, voltage, I/O, governors.
Witch you dont need, if you dont want to play with it.
i.e mimicry's already set to 1000 mhz cpu. You dont need to touch anything if you're satisfied with this cpu speed.
It's hard to find a complete guide for newbes. Back in years, I remember that I had to look at multiple thread to be sure how to root/backup/flash and make sure not to brick.
The major difference between the two (I was using Mimicry myself for the longest time, but I'm currently testing the Flinny Jellybean build) is one is Gingerbread (CM7) and the other is Ice cream sandwich. So if you're find with android OS 2.3, you will for the most part have the most compatibility with the phone's hardware (since all the drivers are avail), and will run better on the phone. But Mimicry will give you the features of ICS (4.0.x), but may lack in some areas like camera capabilities with 3rd party apps such as instagram (which is fixed in the jellybean rom I'm currently using).
But as a "basic" user, I think sticking with gingerbread will do you just fine.
I personally found this guide most useful and very easy to follow. The only problem might be that it needs adb and the respective drivers, but installing it should not be too difficult.
My favourite ROM, when it comes to speed and stability, is the "cm-7.2.0-vision.zip" found here. It might have some extras, but compared to everything else I tried (and I tried a lot), it worked like a charm.
Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
damo666 said:
Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
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I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
fletchb said:
I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
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I used a mix of guides, basically the procedure was: downgrade to Froyo, unlocked and temporarly rooted (S-Off), got it permanent rooted, and then installed CM 7.2.0
Thats all

[Q&A][FAQ] PAC-man 4.3

This thread is to keep the PAC-man development thread clean.
First check the PAC FAQ for Xperia RAY to see if your question has been anwsered there ---- orum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965674
When posting in here all XDA forum rules apply as usual. This thread is to help eachother, please no flaming of any sort.
If you are not aware of the FORUM RULES click HERE
wedgess said:
This thread is to keep the PAC-man development thread clean.
First check the PAC FAQ for Xperia RAY to see if your question has been anwsered there ---- orum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965674
When posting in here all XDA forum rules apply as usual. This thread is to help eachother, please no flaming of any sort.
If you are not aware of the FORUM RULES click HERE
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The ROm is great and no random reboot. trying to daily use... for a couple question, it is support themes for CM10.1??
arc_n_krizt said:
The ROm is great and no random reboot. trying to daily use... for a couple question, it is support themes for CM10.1??
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Finally some one who uses the Q&A.yes it should support AOKP/CM themes.
I'm thinking test your ROM, but whats is the kernel included in the zip file?
Lupus v11? 3.X Kernel?
The main post said dont work JB Camera (4.2.2). There is other camera app included in ROM (CM camera 4.1.2 perhaps) or we must install other third party camera app.
setup wizard pac-man
Hey I flashed the inkludet kernel and did a full wipe and installed the ROM. The Rom boots but then the Setup Wizard does not respond and I cant set upp my phone. A tested this tvice and then re downloadet the rom but got the same results.Is it only me or are others having the same problem Im comming from a nother JB 4.2.2. rom if that helps. I realy want to try this rom and a realy like your work, been using lupus kernel for a long time now. Thanks
device: Lt18i last rom: CM 10.1
ghostmirror said:
I'm thinking test your ROM, but whats is the kernel included in the zip file?
Lupus v11? 3.X Kernel?
The main post said dont work JB Camera (4.2.2). There is other camera app included in ROM (CM camera 4.1.2 perhaps) or we must install other third party camera app.
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No its nAa kernel as I havent started on a 3.x kernel. Of course there is legacy camera like in cm10 included in the R no need to flash extras.
dimmalimm said:
Hey I flashed the inkludet kernel and did a full wipe and installed the ROM. The Rom boots but then the Setup Wizard does not respond and I cant set upp my phone. A tested this tvice and then re downloadet the rom but got the same results.Is it only me or are others having the same problem Im comming from a nother JB 4.2.2. rom if that helps. I realy want to try this rom and a realy like your work, been using lupus kernel for a long time now. Thanks
device: Lt18i last rom: CM 10.1
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Others seem to be having no problems. Perhaps its something to do with gapps. I'm assuming you used full gapps. Try the mini or light version of gapps. So long as u done your full wipes I can't see any other reason. Maybe try flash ROM let it boot then go back to recovery and flash gapps.
Edit - OK so apparently light gapps just causes FC'ing I'll link to other gapps when I'm home.
i flashed this ROM with full Gapps in Xperia Arc S, and it's working really fine, until now had twice random reboots, but that's not really a problem to me.
other than that the ROM is awesome. :good:
Q: is it okay if i use Lupus JBv11 Kernel? (qurrently using kernel included in ROM)
thanks in advance
Bagne said:
i flashed this ROM with full Gapps in Xperia Arc S, and it's working really fine, until now had twice random reboots, but that's not really a problem to me.
other than that the ROM is awesome. :good:
Q: is it okay if i use Lupus JBv11 Kernel? (qurrently using kernel included in ROM)
thanks in advance
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See I'm pretty sure its the kernel giving random reboots. But with LuPuS or Fusion kernel, WiFi and Bluetooth will not work on 4.2.
Hey, one question:
Why the Wifi doesn't work on LuPuS or FusioN Kernel? :/
I#m using Paranoidmod now, because od that...
LuPuS Kernel v11 by wedgess + P.A.C.man by wedgess = Doesn't work?
Bobby2013 said:
Hey, one question:
Why the Wifi doesn't work on LuPuS or FusioN Kernel? :/
I#m using Paranoidmod now, because od that...
LuPuS Kernel v11 by wedgess + P.A.C.man by wedgess = Doesn't work?
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All 4.2 ROMs changed firmware binaries and changed wifiload script. But... suppose I could try get get kernel to install and use old firmware binaries and run lupus wifiload script?? We will see!! maybe I'll push back kernel update until I give it a go and get someone to test.
wedgess said:
All 4.2 ROMs changed firmware binaries and changed wifiload script. But... suppose I could try get get kernel to install and use old firmware binaries and run lupus wifiload script?? We will see!! maybe I'll push back kernel update until I give it a go and get someone to test.
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Okay that would be very nice
And if you'll need a tester I will be your man
Thanks very much
EDIT: The LuPuS kernel works nearly perfect with Paranoidrom, but not with CM10.1, PAC and AOKP...really?!
Bobby2013 said:
Okay that would be very nice
And if you'll need a tester I will be your man
Thanks very much
EDIT: The LuPuS kernel works nearly perfect with Paranoidrom, but not with CM10.1, PAC and AOKP...really?!
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Paranoid was last updated before 3.x kernels were released.
Sent from my PAC-ed LT18i.
Press the thanks button if I helped.
wedgess said:
No its nAa kernel as I havent started on a 3.x kernel. Of course there is legacy camera like in cm10 included in the R no need to flash extras.
Others seem to be having no problems. Perhaps its something to do with gapps. I'm assuming you used full gapps. Try the mini or light version of gapps. So long as u done your full wipes I can't see any other reason. Maybe try flash ROM let it boot then go back to recovery and flash gapps.
Edit - OK so apparently light gapps just causes FC'ing I'll link to other gapps when I'm home.
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I instal the ROM with full gapps and it is running fine now. In one day of testing I got one fc and one random reeboot. Thanks for the info.
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wedgess said:
All 4.2 ROMs changed firmware binaries and changed wifiload script. But... suppose I could try get get kernel to install and use old firmware binaries and run lupus wifiload script?? We will see!! maybe I'll push back kernel update until I give it a go and get someone to test.
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yea do this as soon as possible. 2.6 kernel + cm10.1 = Super Awesome and stable
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Hi,
May I also post on the Pro version here? There is no seperate thread for it.
It's my first attempt on a custom rom after using stock ICS. Unfortunately, I found it to be very unstable
My first attempt was Lupus/v21, now I'm on Fusion/v22. Both seem to be highly unstable. Just using apps is normally fine, but a few things seem to provoke lockups including unlocking the screen, listening to music and using the camera.
I did a full wipe before installing (system, cache, dalvik cache, data), I even tried the permissions fix.
Otherwise it seems a great rom, perfect feature set and very fast, but the unstability makes it unusable for me
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theNfan said:
Hi,
May I also post on the Pro version here? There is no seperate thread for it.
It's my first attempt on a custom rom after using stock ICS. Unfortunately, I found it to be very unstable
My first attempt was Lupus/v21, now I'm on Fusion/v22. Both seem to be highly unstable. Just using apps is normally fine, but a few things seem to provoke lockups including unlocking the screen, listening to music and using the camera.
I did a full wipe before installing (system, cache, dalvik cache, data), I even tried the permissions fix.
Otherwise it seems a great rom, perfect feature set and very fast, but the unstability makes it unusable for me
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Yes u can post here also. Comparing any 4.2 ROM to STOCK ICS, stock ICS would be the winner in terms of stability. 4.1 is the best if you want JB IMO. But 4.2 and especially PAC 4.2 has a lot more features, customization amongst other things. It doesn't matter on the kernel its going to be the same. This is why FXP stopped developing after CM10 for the XPERIA 2011 line-up. It will never be 100% stable as will any 4.2 ROM for Xperia 2011.
I don't know what calls you stabillity, but 4.1 is very stable, almost as 4.0. 4.2 isn't stable specially with 3.x kernels, but 4.1 is perfect. And FXP stop the development for 2011 line becase they have to develop for a lot of devices, i think.
sinholueiro said:
I don't know what calls you stabillity, but 4.1 is very stable, almost as 4.0. 4.2 isn't stable specially with 3.x kernels, but 4.1 is perfect. And FXP stop the development for 2011 line becase they have to develop for a lot of devices, i think.
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I said 4.1 is stable. And no they stopped because without a stable 3.x kernel it would be impossible for a stable 4.2 J. There was no 3.x kernel for 2011 device back then, but even still they knew if there was a 3.x kernel it would need a lot of work to get stable, if it even can.
wedgess said:
I said 4.1 is stable. And no they stopped because without a stable 3.x kernel it would be impossible for a stable 4.2 J. There was no 3.x kernel for 2011 device back then, but even still they knew if there was a 3.x kernel it would need a lot of work to get stable, if it even can.
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But 3.4 kernel is pretty stable now na?
I think that crapy random reboot is the only problem now.
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jithuelad said:
But 3.4 kernel is pretty stable now na?
I think that crapy random reboot is the only problem now.
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yes and that's instability my friend
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