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i just got back from the att store in Lexington ky off richmond rd and the rudest jerk would not sell me the tilt 2 unless i got a data plan, even if i paid full price! What the heck! I hate freakin att, it took all I had not to pop this blond haired dude just for how rude he was to me and my wife. I told him I'll just get it off ebay and he said they would detect it and automatically add data plan.
My wife is eligible for early upgrade and she has an iphone w/ data plan
Shouldn't I be able to get her to get the tilt 2. They will de-activate her iphone, then when she gets home put my old sim in tilt 2 and have her re-activate her phone. Is this possible or no. Please help
I don't want to pay for a stupid 30 a month data plan data plan, i only want the wifi use.
ATT is much more proactive about checking IMEI's now than they used to be. As a result, upon placing your sim in the Tilt 2, you will very likely receive a text message informing you that if you do not add a smartphone data plan to your phone, one will be added for you.
One possible, and I stress POSSIBLE, way around this is to use an unlocked TP2 from another carrier, or the int'l unbranded version. It won't have 3G, but it may not get flagged as a smartphone because most carriers only have their own phones in the IMEI database that they use to check for this sort of thing. So while they would detect the Tilt2 and charge you for a monthly data plan, they might not detect an unlocked branded version from VZW or Tmobile or the unbranded international version as a smartphone.
I'm sorry the dude was rude, and I'm not super fond of ATT (or other carriers for that matter) either, but based on my experience and that of some other users I know, I believe his information is accurate. We used to be able to get away with a lot more than we can now.
Best way to go without paying for data these days is prepaid (though prepaid plans like VZW's which include for example, unlimited data, don't allow smartphones for fear of abuse. I haven't heard of ATT's prepaid rejecting smartphones because their prepaid data packages are per mb--no danger of abuse).
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One possible, and I stress POSSIBLE, way around this is to use an unlocked TP2 from another carrier, or the int'l unbranded version. It won't have 3G, but it may not get flagged as a smartphone because most carriers only have their own phones in the IMEI database that they use to check for this sort of thing. So while they would detect the Tilt2 and charge you for a monthly data plan, they might not detect an unlocked branded version from VZW or Tmobile or the unbranded international version as a smartphone.
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That sounds good in theory, and would work out pretty well for OP since he isn't concerned about 3G capabilities.
When you log into your AT&T wireless account, AT&T attempts to detect your phone and displays it on screen for you. When I was using unlocked phones on their network (i900 Omnia for a year and most recently for 3 days, T-MO's Touch Pro 2), it never detected/displayed my phone.
I just logged into my account now to check if it detected my new AT&T branded Tilt 2, and indeed it did.
Not to spam OP, but if you're interested in a T-Mo Touch Pro 2, I have one listed in the Marketplace. Good luck!
Thanks for your sympathy
Thanks for your sim-pathy (sympathy), It is good to know I'm not the only one angry about this.
It would sure be nice to have a 3.5 jack with an unlocked verizon or sprint version, but I'm just not sure how not having 3g band would effect my signal. Years ago I remember having sprint service and it was horrible where I live.
You are wondering how it would affect your carrier edge data signal? I thought you only wanted to use wifi?
If you are worried about how it would affect your regular GSM phone signal, I can't imagine that would be problem. I believe the GSM chip is the same in all versions, and would expect similar performance from all TP2s that have it.
To date, I haven't yet heard of an unlocked Sprint version working on US GSM carriers (possibly due to some software protections they added in). Unlocked VZWs have been proven to work on ATT. If you want the 3.5mm jack, maybe VZW or Telus would be your best bet.
thanks for the tip
I did not know unlocked sprint versions would not work on US gsm, thanks for the tip. I'm going to start searching the threads for people who have got the unlocked Verizon's to work before I buy.
I was not for sure if the 3g just carried data, thanks for clearing that up. If that is all it adds I won't miss it because, "i really only use wifi".
or maybe just hold out for the hd2.....don't know if I can stand using my backup Motorola phone much longer *my htc trinity drowned ......
There is an alternative
You may try to purchase a phone from T-mobile and they won't limit you to having a data plan especially if you pay full price. I've seen many do it, and many succeed. Good Luck
lol, get the phone with the data plan. go home, call at&t and tell them you've changed your mind and dont want the data plan. have your old phone's imei around and tell them your going to use your old phone. done. i've done it multiple times. no use arguing with those idiots at the store; most of us here know more about phones than they do
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If only our mobile devices companies were all staffed by the nice and informative people of xda the universe would be a better place.
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lol, get the phone with the data plan. go home, call at&t and tell them you've changed your mind and dont want the data plan. have your old phone's imei around and tell them your going to use your old phone. done. i've done it multiple times. no use arguing with those idiots at the store; most of us here know more about phones than they do
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Lots of us have, but you should note that not all the old tricks work anymore. IMEI checking occurs much more often now, not just when you call in.
Are you looking to just not have a data plan period for her phone? The Smartphone/PDA data and iPhone data are the same price.
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As a result, upon placing your sim in the Tilt 2, you will very likely receive a text message informing you that if you do not add a smartphone data plan to your phone, one will be added for you
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I've been running for about a week now on my old SIM w/ MediaNet and have not received any such message.
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I've been running for about a week now on my old SIM w/ MediaNet and have not received any such message.
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I hope it keeps working for you.
I don't understand how he was being rude at all. If he can't sell it to you without those conditions then it certainly isn't his fault. I work at RadioShack and the system we use will not allow us to sell smartphones without adding data either. Not sure how this applies to phones bought outright but all sellers do things a little different. Don't be upset at the associate, be upset at att and the rest of the carriers who also require this.
Actually, according to the rep I had, it seems more along the lines of the phones official launch being today that is the issue from the store side. Since its so new they're not, at least the regular associate isn't, allowed to sell the phone sans contract.
Needless to say my shackles are back on
Considering the amount that shipped out to some stores if his store was any indicator it wouldn't surprise me. How do you only send 3, with one to be set for display purposes?
RE: att rep
I never blamed this guy for the rules this att rep he had to follow, that is not what ticked me off. This had nothing to do with what ticked me off
From the second I walked into this store he was the most sarcastic punk ever, and took it personal that I was trying to get this great htc phone without a data plan. He treated me like I was trying to steal it. I was very polite and I doubt he even knew that I was the least bit upset.
Just got back from an At&t store myself. Rep said the same thing and was also a jerk. I couldn't purchase the phone by itself. I'm not due for an upgrade yet so I was trying to buy the phone full price.
The rep was asking me why I wanted the phone. He said its horrible, it useless, he had a Fuze and gave it away because of how bad it was. He uses a BB and iPhone (BIG SURPRISE). He said I was probably the only person asking for the phone the whole day and thats why they didn't have a display model, because no one wants this phone. He said "Why do you want a windows phone, its windows!!!! Haha, c'mon!"
I was screaming inside. If the jackass had any technology knowledge he would understand why I wanted the phone. The possibilities are endless. I'm running TomTom, Wifi access point, internet sharing, mp3 trimmer, push e-mail, Skyfire, DirecTV NFL Superfan Streaming, registry edits, etc. I know a BB and iPhone can also do some of these things but they CAN'T DO ALL.
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Just got back from an At&t store myself. Rep said the same thing and was also a jerk. I couldn't purchase the phone by itself. I'm not due for an upgrade yet so I was trying to buy the phone full price.
The rep was asking me why I wanted the phone. He said its horrible, it useless, he had a Fuze and gave it away because of how bad it was. He uses a BB and iPhone (BIG SURPRISE). He said I was probably the only person asking for the phone the whole day and thats why they didn't have a display model, because no one wants this phone. He said "Why do you want a windows phone, its windows!!!! Haha, c'mon!"
I was screaming inside. If the jackass had any technology knowledge he would understand why I wanted the phone. The possibilities are endless. I'm running TomTom, Wifi access point, internet sharing, mp3 trimmer, push e-mail, Skyfire, DirecTV NFL Superfan Streaming, registry edits, etc. I know a BB and iPhone can also do some of these things but they CAN'T DO ALL.
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Most of the people in the stores are just typical sales people. They have bad attitudes, and think they know everything because of their "training". Just remember that they are trying to make their commission off of you. Every time I call customer service I make a point to complain about the sales people in the stores. Once, I went in to a store and asked for a new SIM card, and the jerk didn't want to give me one because I was not buying something. I asked for a manager, and she was a b***h about it too and told me that the SIM cards cost them a lot of money. She told me to go to the RadioShack down the road and get one (and they wanted to charge me $25 for one). I just stopped going to the stores all together. If I need a new SIM card, I call customer service and request one to be shipped to me. My advise.... Stay away from the stores!!!!
If they are so into earning their commissions one would think they would want to sell a $549 phone at full price, no?
I work for Best Buy Mobile and indeed AT&T does automatically add the data plan once the IMEI for smartphones is detected in their database but this does not mean you can't buy the phone outright.. that's where the guy was wrong. I don't know if he would get a lesser commission if he sells without an activation or whatnot.
woke up today and tried checking the weather...couldnt get a connection. Then used opera and it said i needed a subscription upgrade. Is this the end of the 5.99 tzone? Im running the energy rom and had no problem until this morning. I really hope its a data/network hiccup and resume back to the way it was...soon!
I also tried using wap.voicestream.com and epc.tmobile.com with no luck.
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woke up today and tried checking the weather...couldnt get a connection. Then used opera and it said i needed a subscription upgrade. Is this the end of the 5.99 tzone? Im running the energy rom and had no problem until this morning. I really hope its a data/network hiccup and resume back to the way it was...soon!
I also tried using wap.voicestream.com and epc.tmobile.com with no luck.
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The $5.99 plan is not for smartphones. You'll need the normal data plan for the TP2. It normally connects through internet2.voicestream.com or internet3.voicestream.com. wap.voicestream.com is used for MMS.
I'm getting the same subscription upgrade required message. I have been using the $5.99 data plan for about three years on my smartphone just fine until today. Like the OP, I tried all available APN settings to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?
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I'm getting the same subscription upgrade required message. I have using the $5.99 data plan for about three years on my smartphone just fine until today. Like the OP, I tried all available APN settings to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Look up one post. I just provided the answer. It doesn't matter how long you've been using it. T-Mobile is changing the data access policies. You can no longer connect to the Internet on your TP2 with the $5.99 plan. You need to either use a non-smartphone device, or upgrade your plan. There is no way around it.
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I'm getting the same subscription upgrade required message. I have been using the $5.99 data plan for about three years on my smartphone just fine until today. Like the OP, I tried all available APN settings to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?
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You are lucky that is all you are receiving. Their normal mode is to charge $1.99 per megabyte of download.
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Look up one post. I just provided the answer. It doesn't matter how long you've been using it. T-Mobile is changing the data access policies. You can no longer connect to the Internet on your TP2 with the $5.99 plan. You need to either use a non-smartphone device, or upgrade your plan. There is no way around it.
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Is that so...
sry to break it to you...but my 3G is back, 5.99 tzone lives on! Around 4pm, i tried it and was successful. This maybe like the hiccup that happened a few years ago. Lets hope everything goes back to the way it was. Streaming slacker radio now...
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Is that so...
sry to break it to you...but my 3G is back, 5.99 tzone lives on! Around 4pm, i tried it and was successful. This maybe like the hiccup that happened a few years ago. Lets hope everything goes back to the way it was. Streaming slacker radio now...
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I talked to T-Mobile Blackberry/PDA Support or Tier 2/3 to some others. Most of us remember about this time last year they doing something similar to what they did Tuesday. Talking to TMBS, earlier in the day they were killing T-Mobile Web aka Unlimited T-Zones to Smartphones. I talked to another guy this evening that said the same thing with one caveat...which I asked what about those of us who have grandfathered data plans?
He looked over our account codes...whatever that means and he made the observation that the instructions for our SIM cards were erased in regards to our data plan which he said he put the instructions back. I was on the horn with him at the same time our internet came back up through no editing of our network connections, so I have no idea what to think.
I don't know if what was done today was a prelude to the introduction of Windows Phone 7 devices starting next month. I'm told T-Mobile will introduce 3 Windows Phone 7 devices for the upcoming holiday season - HTC Mozart aka HD3/7...take your pick, a LG and Samsung variation. Assuming they don't toy with our internet plans as they currently are I have to believe it will be a repeat of the Touch Pro 2 and HD2 Leo. You buy the device retail you can stay on T-Mobile Web.
All that said, I couldn't tell you whether it's all script or the truth.
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Look up one post. I just provided the answer. It doesn't matter how long you've been using it. T-Mobile is changing the data access policies. You can no longer connect to the Internet on your TP2 with the $5.99 plan. You need to either use a non-smartphone device, or upgrade your plan. There is no way around it.
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Well. T-zones is back up and running as of yesterday evening with my smartphone. Hopefully this was just a temporary outage.
Edge was working all through
dmercado_gto said:
Well. T-zones is back up and running as of yesterday evening with my smartphone. Hopefully this was just a temporary outage.
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Glad it is back. I have mine for more than 5yrs. But during this outage for last couple of days, I turned off 3G and it was working fine on Edge. Of course on 3G I was getting same subscription error.
hello all
its been awhile since i've been on here but thought i'd start a thread since others may be having my same issue.
i'm on tmobile and still have the super awesome T-Zones Unlimited Web, $5.99/mo data plan.
i have not purchased any phones from tmobile in the last 3 years (all have been unlocks or off carrier unlocked: iphone 3gs, nexus one, bb from att, etc).
this last few weeks i bought an unsubsidized HTC HD7 from tmobile and got full 3G data without any problems. i returned the HTC HD7 last week and in turn got another unsubsidized Tmobile G2. the first day i was able to get on the web fine, however the 2nd day i was not able to get any data services to work on it; only wifi worked.
popped my sim back into my nexus one and got my usual 2mbs speeds and access to android market. put it back in G2, no internet and getting tzones unavailable upsell page. just mentioning service is down.
anyone else having problems specifically w/their G2 on Tzones? all of my other non tmobile devices work fine. are they IMEI blocking our devices??
thanks all!
btw, i am rooted and also am now running the modaco custom rom
have u tried changing the apns in the connection settings page?
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apns
yup, tried the usual suspects. internet2.voicestream.com, internet3.voicestream.com, wap.voicestream.com.
same results, but again ONLY on my G2. nexus one and iPhone are fine. ??
tmobile knows you have a g2 based on the IMEI, they will force you to pay for a android data plan.
You have no way around it with a tmobile android device. The best you are going to get is the $20 preferred android plan.
thats what i was thinking. i wonder if i bought one off of ebay would it matter? if not, i'm prob going to return it since i still get full 3G on my nexus one and tethering for the $5.99 /mo
best bet probably to stick with nexus
The HD7 didn't have an issue with the data plan?
Did you switch the phone listed on your account? also you could try spoofing the user agent on the browser...
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The HD7 didn't have an issue with the data plan?
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Yeah, only the android phones have this issue. Switching the phone model listed on my account remedied that
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Yeah, only the android phones have this issue. Switching the phone model listed on my account remedied that
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You're using a g2 with a tzone or $10 data plan?
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You're using a g2 with a tzone or $10 data plan?
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Unforntuately it was removed a stupid rep removed it after being grandfathered in. but... I had it working on my MTS. I would get the same error about switching plans on browser and I would change my pphone model and it would disappear. i'm currently on a $20 data plan w/ messaging ($5 bucks cheaper/got it after *****ing about the stupid rep removing my old data plan without permission) for android but it might be worth to try switching models. it worked for me 4 months ago...
Yes, the HTC HD7 got full 3G data on tzones ($5.99/mo) w/o any problems. seems like android phones sold by tmobile won't work and in turn they upsell you an 'android' data plan when i know for a fact that tzones works just fine w/android (ie my nexus one purchased unlocked from google).
i tried changing my phone type in my account to unlisted but had no luck. my nexus one and iphone 3gs were fine w/the epc.tmobile.com apn and have not had any issues. imo it seems like imei blocking since they have the full database of imeis for their own G2s where my nexus one was direct from google and iphone was at&t and not compatible 3G.
i probably should have set my phone type to unlisted and let it stay as that for a day but figured it prob wouldn't work anyways and i wanted to return phone in the 14day timeframe. loved the phone and may get one online and see if that matters (not tied to my line, imei wise and prev account may have had proper plan so option is turned on for device; speculating on last bit).
any other T-Zones success / fail stories w/the G2??
i just ended up returning my G2.
I tried it when the G1 came out. I used an iphone forever and didn't wanna upgrade from the tzones hack lol. in the end, tmobile has the cheapest rates possible. I had to leave the tzones behind after 4 years of it never failing, due to android
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They DO have a list of IMEI's that they go by.
No matter where you get your G2 from, if you don't have a android plan you will get the update message and have to get a android plan. Non tmobile android phones and all windows mobile smartphones have always worked with the tzones plan, for some reason tmobile doesn't care enough about WM to enforce it, and they really can't imei filter on non tmobile android devices. This has been discussed to death over the years on howardforums.
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makes sense w/imeis. just wanted to confirm that others had similar experience. glad i got my unlocked nexus one from google
that phone sure has held its own this whole year! G2 is nice though. if i could have used on my tzones i would have kept it too! (had it rooted, custom modaco rom on it and all)
Just pay stop been cheap. Lol
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hehe, with the way i go through unlocked phones, i have to be cheap somewhere. ended up with a Galaxy Tab instead and using the Nexus One as main phone.
20 some days after this
same thing seems to be happening to me, i have been using a Htc touch pro 2 for about 1 YEAR, i got initially a "Pay By the Month" plan in early 2010, it was:
- $40 Even More Plus™ 500 Talk with FlexPay®
- $10 Unlimited Web for Phones with FlexPay
It wouldnt work with my touch pro 2, but then i discovered that you can put an APN (internet2.voicestream.com) to get it working, i did that and set that i was using a Motorola razr in the my tmobile account, and it did work, then i stop paying the monthly charge to see if i would still have the internet working, and surpisingly it kept working, so for a whole year i used the internet.. in the month of december i noticed that my internet speed got faster all the suden, from downloading at 26 kbps to 120 kbps so i thought, wow this is so cool, and decided to buy the G2, they just delivered to my house yesterday ( Jan 21 2011 ) i got it because they had a promotion of get a 2 year contract with tmobile and get g2 for free ( promotion that only lasted 2-3 days), and so as soon as it arrived i put my sim card of the touch pro 2 to the G2, did set the apn, it worked, but after 3-4 hours, it stopped working, it shows "Subscription Upsell Required" but if i put the sim card back to the Touch pro 2 the internet works.
i have not done anything as far as Rooting Flashing Unlcoking to my G2, but as you guys were saying it may have to do with the IMEI :/
does anybody have a solution?
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same thing seems to be happening to me, i have been using a Htc touch pro 2 for about 1 YEAR, i got initially a "Pay By the Month" plan in early 2010, it was:
- $40 Even More Plus™ 500 Talk with FlexPay®
- $10 Unlimited Web for Phones with FlexPay
It wouldnt work with my touch pro 2, but then i discovered that you can put an APN (internet2.voicestream.com) to get it working, i did that and set that i was using a Motorola razr in the my tmobile account, and it did work, then i stop paying the monthly charge to see if i would still have the internet working, and surpisingly it kept working, so for a whole year i used the internet.. in the month of december i noticed that my internet speed got faster all the suden, from downloading at 26 kbps to 120 kbps so i thought, wow this is so cool, and decided to buy the G2, they just delivered to my house yesterday ( Jan 21 2011 ) i got it because they had a promotion of get a 2 year contract with tmobile and get g2 for free ( promotion that only lasted 2-3 days), and so as soon as it arrived i put my sim card of the touch pro 2 to the G2, did set the apn, it worked, but after 3-4 hours, it stopped working, it shows "Subscription Upsell Required" but if i put the sim card back to the Touch pro 2 the internet works.
i have not done anything as far as Rooting Flashing Unlcoking to my G2, but as you guys were saying it may have to do with the IMEI :/
does anybody have a solution?
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Its the imei. They trace it to match an android device and you must have the android data plan to get internet working. There is no workaround unfortunately...
How about Editing the Imei of the phone, i've seen some threads about it, but it's illegal isnt?
i'm willing to take tha chance :}
where to go?
I just wanted to ask others opinion on how they feel about AT&T taking away the unlimited data plan with the smart phone packages unless you got grandfathered in from having the unlimited data before all this took place.
Well for many many months i have wondered why i didnt get grandfathered in because i had the unlimited before with WM6.5, well they failed to mention it to me and i thought i still had it, but come to find out i got put on the 2gb plan and havent went over the limit for a long time. The past couple months i have went over and got txt saying i reached 75% of my data then 100% and was being charged 10$ for extra gb. I called them to consult them with the problem and they tell me i should have been grandfathered in with my old data plan being unlimited but that they were sorry that i had went past the 3month period to be able to ask for it, and that i had to stay on the rated data plan. So with that said i called them back couple days later and told them i wanted to switch to a old phone i had " LG-VU" and wanted the unlimited data plan, then i gave them my IMEI number and switched devices but never even took out the sim from my samsung focus. They say that it would not work without the smart phone data plan but it still performs as it was before and i have unlimited data plan. I have called the *3282# to see, and it says unlimited data and that the other 2gb plan is deactivated.
My question is if anyone else has experienced this kinda situation before as i have and what they did about it. Will AT&T be able to see that i am still using the focus and not the Vu?
When i had the WM6.5 i never told them what device i was using, i just put sim card in and edited the APN and never had to have smart phone data.
Many opinions Appreciated!!
i had same problem. i was told after having an htc fuze with unlimited data that i could not be grandfathered in with my new smart phone even after explaining that the fuze was also a smart phone. its now been a year though. i may try your method of getting the unlimited data back.
I was determined to figure a way around it, especially after the Hot Spot hack, using that for my xbox 360 live. But it seams to be do the trick so far, its been a couple days now and i havent gotten any alert as i did before, but thats not saying i wont get one saying im being charged. So lets hope this is a work around with a dumb phone!!
All I did was upgrade my phone in a store then call ATT after my first bill stating that I was told I would keep my unlimited plan and if they dont want to give it back I can just return the phone and go with another provider... lets just say I have unlimited data again.
They will try to say you went past the the 14 day return but just tell them that you were sold the phone on false pretenses and that it was a mistake on their end. They will fold once you get past the first teir rep.
I have done this upgrading from a iPhone 2G to 3GS and then from 3GS to WP7. I also managed to get it when I added a second line for my GF with the old 3GS haha... Play stupid and just go with the old, "I was told I would get this.... are you telling me I was lied to by one of your ATT sales people?" they trip over themselves then give you what you want.
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i had same problem. i was told after having an htc fuze with unlimited data that i could not be grandfathered in with my new smart phone even after explaining that the fuze was also a smart phone. its now been a year though. i may try your method of getting the unlimited data back.
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I didn't have any problem at all. But then, when I heard about the change, I went straight to an AT&T store to make sure I had a guarantee that I would be grandfathered in no matter what. When I upgraded from my Fuze to a Focus, I had no trouble, and I'm still unlimited a year later.
you can get it back and here's how
as soon as I get my titan and get back with at&t
i'm talking to this guy or you can use your own iphone 2g if you have one lying around
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220875871251
Seems like a good deal! We'll see if AT&T honors that promise of grandfathering T-Mo people!
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as soon as I get my titan and get back with at&t
i'm talking to this guy or you can use your own iphone 2g if you have one lying around
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220875871251
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I get the same txt that he is getting
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i'm talking to this guy or you can use your own iphone 2g if you have one lying around
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220875871251
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As for me, it looks like some kind of criminal transaction. Somehow this guy got access to AT&T billing/accounting system and makes non-authorized changes in database. I prefer to stay with my 2 Gb only data plan but w/o possible problems...
I think that guy is doing the same thing as i did, but he is charging ppl to call and do it for you. All i did was change the IMEI by supplying them with it and acctivating unlimted data for that dumb device, But keep my sim card in my Focus. As you can see in my screen capture on phone that i just took a few min before i posted showing that the 2gb plan was cancelled and unlimited was activated.
Lets just hope this is a work around sollution for this, as it is working as of now!!
I only pay $40 a month unlimited everything through simple mobile... I don't know how much you guys are paying but can't beat that deal... And its $40 flat...not $40 plus this and that fee.
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I think that guy is doing the same thing as i did, but he is charging ppl to call and do it for you.
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I don't think so - too much pain in the a$$ for $25 Definitely he found the way to change AT&T database...
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As you can see in my screen capture on phone that i just took a few min before i posted showing that the 2gb plan was cancelled and unlimited was activated.
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How about your bill? How much AT&T charges for unlim? $30/m as it was before?
Hmm you maybe right on that, i wouldnt do all those phones for that much.
My current unlimited data is costing me 15 a month now.
i wonder if this would work on their gophone as well?
register a dumbphone for the $50 unlimited and then put the sim in a smartphone?
does the network read IMEI when the device tries to connect?
for me, when i got my gophone sim card, i didn't have my focus with me, so the att rep entered all 0's or 1's for imei, does it read the phone and change them? or is there a way to see what phone they think i'm using?
sorry if it's a bit off topic, but it's very interesting to me
Still Unlimited
I went from an ATT FUZE with a PDA Unlimited Plan to an ATT Samsung Focus and the rep merely moved my SIM in the FUZE to the Focus last December and I still have the Unlimited Plan.
Hmm, I think I'll switch to the unlimited and not add data and see what happens, worst case I spend an extra $25 next month
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I just switched to att $10 unlimited last night using my SIM in my HD2 and telling them my IMIE number (which att's system didnt recognize) I told them I was using a t-mo dumbphone becuase my focus broke (lie) and they switched me over no problem. I'm going to use my HD2 for a little bit then go back to my focus and see what happens
On a side note you can get a gophone from walmart for like $10 its a samsung a107 then toss your sim in that call them up with the IMIE num and they will move you over to a dumbphone plan as well.
adiliyo said:
i wonder if this would work on their gophone as well?
register a dumbphone for the $50 unlimited and then put the sim in a smartphone?
does the network read IMEI when the device tries to connect?
for me, when i got my gophone sim card, i didn't have my focus with me, so the att rep entered all 0's or 1's for imei, does it read the phone and change them? or is there a way to see what phone they think i'm using?
sorry if it's a bit off topic, but it's very interesting to me
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Yes the system reads the IMEI when connecting, but i think it will also work for gophones also. I dont know what the rates are for those plans but i dont think it will catch it unless the done a manual audit on it, witch they have no reason to do so.
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I just switched to att $10 unlimited last night using my SIM in my HD2 and telling them my IMIE number (which att's system didnt recognize) I told them I was using a t-mo dumbphone becuase my focus broke (lie) and they switched me over no problem. I'm going to use my HD2 for a little bit then go back to my focus and see what happens
On a side note you can get a gophone from walmart for like $10 its a samsung a107 then toss your sim in that call them up with the IMIE num and they will move you over to a dumbphone plan as well.
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All i did was just call in and tell them i was switching phones to my old LG-Vu and went to unlimited plan, i never even took out my sim from my focus, then they did test call to make sure all was working, i answered call from focus as again i never took my sim out lol and they didnt notice it so it ALL GOOD
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Its 15 for the unlimited data, but i have the Media Max Unlimited plan for $35. The $15 plan mentioned is for the Media Net unlimited. That gives you unlimited data access only, but i need sms unlimited also cause there are alot of my friends that can only txt.
I just received a notice that all of a sudden Sprint is going to start charging me to use Good For Enterprise on my Note 4. Has anyone else gotten this? Or does anyone else know how much the charge is?
Frankly GFE should be paying me to use this crappy app...LOL
I got the same notification from Sprint
I got a letter recently saying Sprint had a mistake and needs to charge me to use Good For Enterprise. I am really irritated and I'm trying to figure out if this is just some new way to make money or a legit charge. The phone carriers used to have infrastructure for blackberry enterprise, but I'm not sure sure about GFE.
That's what I didn't understand also. How or why would I be charged for data through GFE if I already have unlimited data?
They aren't providing a service since I downloaded the app through the play store.
I received the same notice & I'm on an iPhone6 now. I was thinking it was "caught" when I changed devices this month. Look closely at your letter, does it say 12/31/2015 also? If so, then we should still receive another year of "free access". Otherwise they can piss off as far as i'm concerned. I'm not going to "pay to work".
Yes...I have until 12/31/2015 also
Just curious... What is gfe?
Good For Enterprise.
Its an alternative to the Blackberry secure corporate email that companies are switching too.
Frustrating part is that it doesn't require any Sprint configuration but it seems since it is "corporate" email, Sprint wants to jump in on charges.
See the thread here: https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/180119
This is absolutely ridiculous. When I first got good, I specifically asked Sprint if there was any charge on my SERO line for it. They told me as long as I was paying for data, and in my SERO plan I was, there was no additional charge to me. The only charge was between my company and Good. This is complete bull****.
Thanks for pointing out the other thread. It appears that I'm going to have to work with Sprint directly because I'm not using any of the "add-on" services that they reference and I'm not on a business account.
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Thanks for pointing out the other thread. It appears that I'm going to have to work with Sprint directly because I'm not using any of the "add-on" services that they reference and I'm not on a business account.
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Days later and I still don't have a straight answer from Sprint as to the date this is supposed to happen or if there is any way to "opt out" or just use the application on wifi. I don't see how Sprint can tell me I can't use an app on MY phone over MY wireless connection when it has nothing to do with them. If they want to block all connections from my Sprint data to Good ips be my guest. I will either use a VPN or wifi.
Marcelo Claure responded to this issue on Twitter this morning: "Good is being fixed as we speak."