Hello all, another noob, been lurking and reading for a while, getting ready to root my 14 month old EVO...have researched this question, but haven't found any solid answer as yet. I have all my apps, etc backed up, and was wondering if it really matters if I do a factory or a hard reset before getting my s-off? I thought maybe it would be best beings the phone has been in use now for a while, and don't want to run into any glitches during the root process....if I even will? any suggestions appreciated! Thanks in advance!
It is safe, but not necessary if you are going to use Revolutionary or unrevoked (for Froyo not Gingerbread). Just make sure you don't have HTC sync installed on your computer.
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That depends, are you going to keep the stock rom or flash a new one? If you are going to keep the stock rom, it can't hurt to do a factory reset first to clear up any glitches that may have happened. If you are going to flash a new rom, then it doesnt matter, as flashing the new rom will wipe everything.
Thanks, being a virgin at this, I'll probably keep the stock rom for a while, I just want to get rid of the bloat, and play around with it for a while...apppreciate your answers, great site, our IT guys at work are going to wonder why I'm spending so much time here!
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So, i rooted my EVO a long time ago with unrevoked 2, i believe, and i decided i didn't want to bother with roms and all that crap, so i decided to update to 2.2, but unfortunately after i download it and start the install, it stops about a third the way through of the install of froyo and gives me a error(triangle with a ! in it, little android guy next to it on the bottom right). I'm not exactly sure why this is happening, but i thought something was screwed up, so i decided to do a factory refresh after backing up all my stuff. Did so, and got same results, think i read it has something to do with the custom recovery added on with unrevoked? Well, can anyone help me get to straight up 2.2(new OTA for 30 fps fix as well), then root? I really just don't want to bother with ROM's right now. Thanks in advance for any help!
Oh and, after i get the error, it reboots fine after i pull out the battery.
It's a sticky in the development thread 3.28.651.5 I believe. Just flashed it, stock rooted Rom. To me seems a lot faster (I'm very picky haha) was running a stock rooted rom prior. Did NOT lose root. Must be fully rooted though (s-off) with unrevoked forever. Hope that helps. BTW do a search next time or someone will flame u
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hey xda fans....ok so i have a severe issue here:
i have the evo 4g...rooted... and am on sense with 2.2 and 3.70 (i think you guys know what that is) so anyway i want to get the new update and start really having fun with my phone. I have not been able to fully understand all this rooting and flashing etc...O_O so i installed ROM manager, which now some peeps are sayin dont use if you dont know what you are doing WELL HI, THAT WOULD BE ME so for all the experts, gods and godesses of rooting (EVO) flashing, please please please help me from start to absoulute finish...i need to know what am i downloading, running, saving and to where- that was a huge issue too i couldnt find the files after i downloaded them LOL if i am successful...I will post the greatest YOUTUBE, forum, blog about this..i am so lost right now
b4 i forget a couple updates of info everytime i tried to flash or do any type of recent updates i get the usb connection 170 error or maybe 171 cant remember now....ummm...i rooted originally with unrevoked so unrooting i wouldnt have a clue...and yes i have searched allll possible threads for help but i only get 50/50 and then still get messed up..thanks
thanks again and happy rooting
While I am not going to hold your hand as there is plenty of information on these forums and the internet, I will steer you in the right direction. Since you are rooted, all you really need to do is download the rooted version of the latest stock rom. There are a few in the development section. The version is 4.22. After downloading you will flash this rom in recovery. Make sure you do a nandroid backup before flashing the update.
DO NOT unroot just to install the update. You will lose the ability to root hour phone for the foreseeable future.
Good luck
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ok thanks i will try it now...stay tuned
Ur not going to see much difference. The update dissapointed lots of people expecting a new look. Install a couple of custom roms if u want to have some fun. I am using the MikG v1.03 Rom with new sense incorperated and its waaaay better than the stock update we just got.
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Pleat try to see this as advice and not being an ass.
Rooting your phone is really for being able to dig in to your phone and get all you want out of it and be able to customize more than the average evo.
What were your initial intentions for rooting? I get the draw to have free wifi tether but, that just happens to be one perk of it. Of course, there are the options of kernels and cpu clocking.
But, really the developers are attempting to bring the newest and most useful and functional features to the roms opening the full potential of your phone.
Aside from that, if you are unclear and confused about the process of flashing, you should really hold off and do some more research.
Go to the wiki page and read up! i spent about a month reading everything I could find on rooting, flashing, kernels, radios, prls, threads on roms and their issues and up sides. I knew what I was doing and what rom and features I was going to use.
Honestly, youtube will also be your friend. A few devs also post videos people have made about their roms including how to flash them. You should also read up on the results of mistakes made during flashing and how to fix them.
Get to know your phone and submit it to do your will!
Good luck!
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thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys
dmccoy516 said:
thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys
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Your apps were gone because you wiped data. Try Titanium Backup - there's a free version in the market that allows you to backup and restore, get the Pro key to avoid agreeing to the permissions/install of each individual app. The Pro version also allows for a larger number of backups per app, where the free version limits to one and when you make another backup it overwrites the first one. You can also freeze apps with the full version, but if you enable "Chuck Norris Mode" in settings the free version will allow you to uninstall system apps. There are other perks to the Pro Key, but I digress...
If you backup your apps & data, you can restore them on the new one. Whenever you flash a new rom, always wipe data, cache and dalvik (dalvik cache is under advanced in Clockwork). If you're simply updating the rom (ie to a newer version by the same dev, like Cyanogenmod nightlies) you can just wipe cache and dalvik unless otherwise stated in the rom. Whenever you flash anything other than a rom - kernels, themes, mods, radios, etc - do not wipe data.
If you don't know which rom to use, as long as you have a nandroid backup you can always go back to your setup that you like... so flash away. If you want to stick with something closer to what you're used to, try Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo... it's still FroYo. If you want Gingerbread/Sense, I've heard great things about MikG. I would avoid any rom that needs you to partition your SD card until you get your feet wet & know what you're doing.
Oh, and if you decide to flash the new radio update, don't pull the battery when you see the screen you've never seen before - you'll brick your phone. Just wait it out, and it'll take you back to recovery where you can then reboot normally.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
Definitely look at Mik, and learn all you can about partitioning your card for APS2SD, you'll want that for the bigger ROMS, about flashing radios, very important to do that correctly, about theming, and so many other things that being rooted opens up for you.
Mik is great for sure, also kings roms. If you want something that is still htc sense there are many great developers and right now is the time because they are able to merge ports with the ota for the max performance for our phone while running gingerbread and having nifty new 3.0 sense features.
And maybe someday you will venture to the aosp world some day...
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Ok ive looked and looked for this but never found a clear answer. So here I go...
Hey guys I've been reading a lot about rooting, the pros and cons, well I've made my decision and I want to root it.
My number one reason for rooting is I want to delete unnecessary apps on the phone and I want to use DroidWall (Firewall) so my apps don't use up my data plan (this is costing me a lot when I enable 3G), and I want to use Titanium Backup to backup all my data. I don't want to use custom roms or anything like that, well at least not now, cause I dont feel confident yet.
Back to my question, If I root my Gio can I Hard Reset my phone from system recovery?? Or what is the equivalent of hard reseting on a rooted phone?? , Im afraid because this one time my Gio wouldn't go past the boot screen and I had to Hard reset from recovery menu, and since then it works just fine, but If I ever need to do this again, I want to be sure I can use Hard Reset like I did before.
I ask this because I googled this question and I got results that said "don't factory reset if you are rooted", "Never factory reset when rooted on (x phone)" but then I see many threads here that say "factory reset before and after (x process)" So im a little confused.
Thanks in advance
by the way Im on android Froyo 2.2.1 don't know if it matters
and my phone is unlocked and don't want to loose that if I ever need to flash it
edwardsa86 said:
Ok ive looked and looked for this but never found a clear answer. So here I go...
Hey guys I've been reading a lot about rooting, the pros and cons, well I've made my decision and I want to root it.
My number one reason for rooting is I want to delete unnecessary apps on the phone and I want to use DroidWall (Firewall) so my apps don't use up my data plan (this is costing me a lot when I enable 3G), and I want to use Titanium Backup to backup all my data. I don't want to use custom roms or anything like that, well at least not now, cause I dont feel confident yet.
Back to my question, If I root my Gio can I Hard Reset my phone from system recovery?? Or what is the equivalent of hard reseting on a rooted phone?? , Im afraid because this one time my Gio wouldn't go past the boot screen and I had to Hard reset from recovery menu, and since then it works just fine, but If I ever need to do this again, I want to be sure I can use Hard Reset like I did before.
I ask this because I googled this question and I got results that said "don't factory reset if you are rooted", "Never factory reset when rooted on (x phone)" but then I see many threads here that say "factory reset before and after (x process)" So im a little confused.
Thanks in advance
by the way Im on android Froyo 2.2.1 don't know if it matters
and my phone is unlocked and don't want to loose that if I ever need to flash it
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Factory reset is recommended both before and after flashing a new ROM. Doing it before flashing is very important because you can have bootloops and other problems otherwise.
I have personally done factory reset numerous times on my rooted gio and never faced any problem.
I see... By the way if I remove an unwanted app for example "Samsung Apps" will it be there again once I do a factory reset (or hard reset from recovery menu)??? Or will that app be gone forever? And also is a factory reset the same as hard reset (when you reset with the recovery menu)?? Sorry for so many questions but im new to all of this and dont want to mess up my phone.
By the way I wanted to share with you guys that I just upgraded my phone from Froyo 2.2.1 to Gingerbread 2.3.4 with Kies and it is much faster then before. I was afraid cause ive read many posts where other people were not happy once they upgraded. Now I can only imagine how fast it can go if I install custom roms in it.
It will be gone forever but samsung apps is good sometimes
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Ok thanks. I might not delete stuff afterall.
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I see... By the way if I remove an unwanted app for example "Samsung Apps" will it be there again once I do a factory reset (or hard reset from recovery menu)??? Or will that app be gone forever? And also is a factory reset the same as hard reset (when you reset with the recovery menu)?? Sorry for so many questions but im new to all of this and dont want to mess up my phone.
By the way I wanted to share with you guys that I just upgraded my phone from Froyo 2.2.1 to Gingerbread 2.3.4 with Kies and it is much faster then before. I was afraid cause ive read many posts where other people were not happy once they upgraded. Now I can only imagine how fast it can go if I install custom roms in it.
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Factory reset = hard reset.
Yeah, people not much happy because of gingerbread lag. I used official 2.3.3 after froyo and it lagged the less out of all gingerbreads I tried after that. Then I switched to custom roms.
I hope your experience with official gingerbread remains good throughout because lags can get very annoying at times.
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Factory reset = hard reset.
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I was starting to get that idea since no one used both terms. Well thanks for your reply's I really appreciate your help. I will now root my phone and hope for the best, ill stay official until I get problems with lag.
UPDATE:
I rooted mi Galaxy Gio and have successfully done a factory Reset while rooted. So for any other person wondering the same as me, It is ok...
I have looked around and am still not sure which way would be best to un-root my Evo 4g. Can I just use ( wipe data/factory reset ) then update my contacts thru asurion ? and reload the apps i want from the market ? right now i am in ClockworkMod Recovery v3.0.05 ( it was originally rooted with unrevoked ) not unrevoked forever. I thought i would like to try the latest official build for a while. ( not looking forward to the sprint bloatware ) or would the easiest thing be to try and update to the latest ClockworkMod or some other build. Thanks for any info you might have.
Best way to unroot is to grab the unrevoked s-on tool. Flash that and run a ruu or grab a stock non rooted rom.
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so i guess wipe data is really no good ?
Can I just use ( wipe data/factory reset ) then update my contacts thru asurion ?
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Not really sure what you are asking here. A factory reset will NOT unroot you, it will just reset whatever rom you are on. And updating contacts through Asurion? Asurion is your insurance provider, they have nothing to do with contacts....
I thought i would like to try the latest official build for a while.
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You don't have to unroot to do this, just flash a rooted stock rom. This way you stay rooted. If you unroot, and then update to the latest stock rom, it will be VERY difficult to re-root.
or would the easiest thing be to try and update to the latest ClockworkMod or some other build.
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I think you need to read a LOT more about rooting before you proceed to do any more, you don't really seem to know what's going on. ClockworkMod is your recovery, which has nothing to do with your rom. Updating Clockwork will not update your rom, or unroot you.
LOL I guess you are right. A LOT more reading in my future.. Thanks though.
I guess I will go ahead with the idea to update to the newest rom. I thought because ClockworkMod gave me the option to " wipe data/factory reset. " it would set it to factory default, which I thought might be un-rooted.
Side note: Asurion also syncs my phone contacts. I had to use it once when my phone was lost. to update / sync the new phone. It worked very well. Google sync stopped working long ago. I get an error message every time.
But thanks again. that post was very helpful to point me in the right direction. and make me feel a little foolish LOL BE WELL
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Google sync stopped working long ago. I get an error message every time.
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did you try setting up a new gmail account? or maybe jsut delete it on your phone and re-set it up.
not yet. but i will soon. ill let you know how it goes. I've read that it works for some and not for others. haven't found a lot of info directly from Google though. it seems they don't acknowledge the issue. but I am sure i'm not the only one experiencing the error message.
If you really like the new sprint os but hate the bloatware, why not use a rooted sprint rom that one of the devs has made, kind of exactly what sprint/htc gives you but minus the bloat!
Thanks I will. i'm very new to this, how do i go about getting the correct one ? as you can see from above. I have Alot more reading to do.
just did a search on the rom you are running. How do you like that one.
The Rom I am running is great! Just can't post the link to it in this forum due to forum rules. But the Rom I am running is similar to a stock rom, just not a stock rom of an evo 4g. It's ics os which stands for (ice cream sandwich) the new HTC os. Its the stock upgrade for most of their new phones such as the Samsung Galaxy SII. Evo 4g was left out, but due to the devs on this site and others the evo 4g will be just fine!
Edit: Well there is alot of reading and research involved. But for me the best kind of research is trial and error. I read up on certain roms that interest me that have key perks. Such as ICS (newer roms), or wimax enabled (4g enabled and typically on the older roms). Then I read up on peoples response to the roms, what issues they have had, how they have fixed them, how the developer has fixed them. And then after that I'll flash the roms and see how they run. Usually a day or two of use can tell you if you like it or not. Its like a car test drive!
That's Great. I will look around a little more. and get a new rom, I'll probably try the one you mentioned, ( found the link ) Hey, I really appreciate the info, I just need the time to screw around a little more. LOL. Be Well. I'll let ya know how it goes. It is pretty interesting.
Yes on the site you are currently on, there should be a few helpful tips on how to flash the roms and kernels properly. Good luck, also a bunch of great tips on the CM7 Wiki
Just got this phone and I love it but the seller on ebay had it rooted and had one of the roms from here on it. They said they would put it all back to stock for me. I like to start with a clean slate if you know what I mean. Well, it is back on gingerbread but root is still there and a whole bunch of other stuff (apps, roms, titanium backup) etc etc in folders on the internal storage. My question is can I safely get this phone back to being stock just like it was from the factory, without the risk of bricking it? I know how to use Odin for the Epic 4G and all. I knew there were some problems with the touch and some phones getting bricked. I have no clue what they may have done to the phone so I am a bit concerned to do anything to it till I hear from someone who has done this (gone completely back to stock) Also, is there a tutorial somewhere?? Thanks guys for your help with this.
Oh here is some more info if it helps looks like I am on Android version 2.3.6, EL29, kernel 2.6.35.7 there is some other info if you need it please let me know I do see a Caulklin's folder in there in the internal storage so most likely they did have that rom on there at one time. There is also a ACS folder in there but when I try to open any of the folders in there I get an error that there is no program that can perform this action. Grrrrrr
Hi.
When messing with Gingerbread, especially stock, bricks are pretty hard to come by nowadays.
Here is what I suggest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
(from what you said, you probably understand this already)
Just run the EL29 OC. You'll be good to go.
In terms of the internal storage, just delete it all or run a format. You won't get yourself in trouble that way, it's just the internal storage.
If you're concerned about the data wipe brick, that is only on ICS. So since you're on GB, it is not a problem (and totally unrelated to clearing internal storage.)
Post back if you have any questions or anythin'.
If you are on gingerbread then there is no danger of the EEMC superbug(As far as I've heard/read). As for reseting I don't have a link to a tutorial off the top of my head, however the process is pretty simple. Start searching through the development forums for the stock odin files and then flash them. I can try to find you a tutorial/links tonight but I don't really have time right now...besides the search function works the same way for you as it would for me! Feel free to ask if you need anything else!
Hahaha MochaCharok beat me to it!
Thanks guys. The phone at one time was on an ICS rom and yes I can search for it. I just wanted to make sure before I did, that this could be done. So, I will see about finding the tutorial and how to go about getting the phone all back to factory like. I know I am so anal this way, but I really do like to start with a clean slate before I do anything to any phone. thanks again guys I will holler if I run into any problems. LOVE this phone though.
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If you are on gingerbread then there is no danger of the EEMC superbug(As far as I've heard/read). As for reseting I don't have a link to a tutorial off the top of my head, however the process is pretty simple. Start searching through the development forums for the stock odin files and then flash them. I can try to find you a tutorial/links tonight but I don't really have time right now...besides the search function works the same way for you as it would for me! Feel free to ask if you need anything else!
Hahaha MochaCharok beat me to it!
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When you activated the phone on your account it should've wiped everything they had on the phone prior and reset it to stock. At least that's what happened when I activated a phone I'd bought from an XDA member. So I started with a clean slate automatically.
It didn't for whatever reason. I had to go in and edit the MIN and MDN manually to get it to activate so maybe that is why. That thing was a HUGE pain to do too. It would not take and kept resetting. Had to try it like 5 times.
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When you activated the phone on your account it should've wiped everything they had on the phone prior and reset it to stock. At least that's what happened when I activated a phone I'd bought from an XDA member. So I started with a clean slate automatically.
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If you are stuck with what to do next then take it to a Sprint store and let them wipe it for you.
Good info
As I'm going to try this and hopefully get the missus off her Opt S and onto an E4GT this week this was good timing to cover the process.
Here's what I am planning to do:
1) Flash EL29 + Root
2) Factory Reset from Recovery (which should clear NVRAM if I understand correctly)
3) Call MVNO and have them set up phone
4) Allow hands-free activation to hopefully fill in the blanks
If this works as I hope then I shouldn't have to tinker manually with the NVRAM data.... if not then I have my phone to base most of that off of. And of course it depends if the carrier will let me set the phone up - in the past they haven't been warm to using a different phone unless you purchased it directly from them.
All this just to sit tight until we can get the GS3 probably next year.. yeesh.