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We know this is a problem since 2.2
The Desire can't read the Artist tag in WMA files. To me this is a big deal.
Converting to MP3 is not an option because:
1. I have over 24,000 files
2. A lot of my files are in WMA lossless format and there is no MP3 equivilant
3. When using the same bandwidth settings (say 192kbp/s), MP3 offers inferior sound quality.
So I have raised a ticket to HTC, sent them a file etc and have not had the following reponse:
Thanks. We have experienced the same issue as you. This has been escalated with HTC. However in the meantime you can get around the problem by converting your music files into MP3 format
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So at least the fault is acknowledged so all I can do now is wait
I used mp3 tag to convert the WMA tags to ID3 version 1 and it worked for me. It does it automatically so will soon take care of all your songs.
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aindow said:
I used mp3 tag to convert the WMA tags to ID3 version 1 and it worked for me. It does it automatically so will soon take care of all your songs.
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Thanks for this.
Can't actually see the tag to tag option in the latest downloadable version (even though the instructions talk about it) for some reason.
Having said that, I would rather not downgrade my files metadata if I can avoid it.
Lets see if we get a fix.
I hope we get a fix too but in the mean time ill just have to copy the files I want on my phone and change the tags manually :-S
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it doesn't work with wma..
i am using mp3tag v2.46a, then remove tag, add tag, then save
but it still show "unknown artist" in desire music player..
did i miss anything ? tq
Hello everyone,
I have an issue that is driving me CRAZY, and I hope some of you are having the same issue...or at least suggestions for how to fix it. I am running the new Android 2.2 update on my Evo. (It's just the normal, plain software from Sprint/HTC...nothing custom, none of that root stuff...just regular).
I always keep a few gigabytes of music (in WMA format) on my SD card. I noticed that after the update, the HTC Music player would no longer recognize (and sort) the music by Artist or Composer. The only things it could identify about each file were the Title, Album, and Genre. I miss the option of browsing through my music by Artist and/or Composer. This was not a problem with Android 2.1, but it is now. I even tried deleting all the music from my SD card and re-syncing it from my PC...same result. I also tried music from a different PC...same result.
So here's what I discovered this morning: If I convert my WMA files to MP3s, then the music player works just as before!! It recognizes all the ID3 tags within each file. This is a big problem for me. First of all, my music library is nearly 40 GB in size, and I do not want to have to convert EVERYTHING to MP3 before I sync. This is tedious and unnecessary. Secondly, the original specs/documentation of the HTC Evo state that it supports the WMA file format. I made sure of that before purchasing, because it was one of the big factors for me in making the decision to switch to Sprint and the Evo.
Does anyone have any suggestions for how to solve this problem? I'm about to call HTC now and complain. Thanks.
Why are you so attached to WMA? IME/IMHO it's not a very good format because the quality of the mp3 format is a little better plus the DRM that gets embeded in the tracks. Every track that I have *ahem* acquired or even recorded myself has time bombed on me at some point. I should be able to play the music I record at any time!
/Rant
Don't take what I said too personally. I'm just pissed off at Microsoft. That said, I do not know what is causing your files not be played back properly as I do not have any to test.
Just a guess but, perhaps the new player in froyo doesn't read id3 tags from wma files correctly.
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Well, that wasn't the purpose of this post, but since you asked...
I've been ripping my CDs to my hard drive for about 10 years now. Windows Media Player made it sooo easy to organize my music library. Way back in the day, you could only rip to WAV or different varieties of WMA. To rip to mp3, I would have had to use a different program, or purchase a plug-in for Windows Media Player. Only in the last few versions has Windows Media Player had the "rip to mp3" option built-in for free.
When I originally started my collection, I read about the differences between WMA and mp3. I got the understanding that the two formats essentially offered the same quality and features, but WMA generally used about half the file size for the same bitrate. So I chose WMA and stuck with it all this time.
Even when I buy music from Amazon or iTunes, I've gotten in the habit of converting it to WMA...just for consistency.
I just got off the phone with HTC, who says they haven't heard of this issue before. I was advised to perform a factory reset. But if I can't resolve the issue soon, I'm considering just converting every piece of music I have to mp3. (Sigh). But at nearly 40 GB, and various bitrates, who knows how long that could take!? (Sighing again). I wonder what program could handle that amount of music all at once. And I pray it won't screw up all the ID3 tags and the ratings I've so carefully given.
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I have a couple of WMA files on my SD card. They have always been listed under "Unknown Artist" along with a few mp3's.
when I click on unknown artist, the files show up listed under their correct names. When I click on the wma files (both by the same artist), they expand into individual file names.
After updating to 2.2 nothing has changed. Everything works normally. That would suggest HTC's advice may work for you.
On another note, don't you love it when you post a question, and the first response is, "I don't know how to help, but I don't like that kind of file anyway, and neither should you!!!
Hmmm...and your WMA files were never fully recognized? Not even on Android 2.1? Interesting. I guess I'll attempt a hard reset tonight, or maybe tomorrow.
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I had the exact same issue and can report that a hard reset had no effect. I'll be looking to convert my library to mp3 as well. Froyo has its quirks.
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Wow!! Thanks, pstar...I was literally 3 minutes away from starting the hard reset process and restoring everything. What is we gon' do? :-(
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helpwithmy8525 said:
Wow!! Thanks, pstar...I was literally 3 minutes away from starting the hard reset process and restoring everything. What is we gon' do? :-(
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Here's an idea: Go into a Sprint store with your Mini SD chip and see if they'll put in in another Android phone. See if it exhibits the same issue.
Good idea. I might try that tomorrow.
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ptsar said:
I had the exact same issue and can report that a hard reset had no effect. I'll be looking to convert my library to mp3 as well. Froyo has its quirks.
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I couldn't resist finding out for myself; I also tried a hard reset, to no avail...
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Funny, my wife is using the rooted stock froyo, first leaked build and all wma look fine with embedded art using HTC player. I am using cyanogen latest nightly and it still can't read wma tags at all. But I do like playing with the new DSP settings--worth the switch. As a workaround I converted the wma to mp4 and they read just fine.
I'm surprised anyone had success with wma on any version of android. For me, on 2.1, wma files wouldn't play (but a few DID, which confounds me to no end). Now on rooted 2.2, I experience the same behavior. Just for fun, I used astro and simply renamed the file type of some wmas to .mp3. Surprisingly, it seemed to work. I thought I was on to something. Then I tries that with some Audioslave songs. No worky. So probably the ones I did 'get to work', were some of the few that for no discernible reason, to me, already worked.
I would like to hear more about this issue, actually.
Its a problem in Froyo with both WMA and AAC encoded files. Reported in Google Code, so please go there, sign in to google, then star the issue so it gets some attention:
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...ag&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
You can MMS an audio and save as a ringtone, but I'm having trouble with mp3 and wma..
# What are the supported ringtone formats?
WARNING: Once you save a ringtone, you cannot delete it!!
You can delete ringtones.... You just have to reset.
lol thanks..
I've tried mp3, wma, wav, ogg, still can't save any..
Am I doing something wrong? Been trying all the free online MMS sites..
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lol thanks..
I've tried mp3, wma, wav, ogg, still can't save any..
Am I doing something wrong? Been trying all the free online MMS sites..
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Those online "free" MMS sites aren't actually free. You still pay for receiving the MMS/SMS.
Try sending from another cellphone.
Antonpup said:
Those online "free" MMS sites aren't actually free. You still pay for receiving the MMS/SMS.
Try sending from another cellphone.
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Alternatively you can send an email with the file attached to [email protected] but remember that there is a limit to the file size.
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Alternatively you can send an email with the file attached to [email protected] but remember that there is a limit to the file size.
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Mm, doesn't work for me. Email sends fine but nothing happens.
Don't have another phone to send from.
sometimes you need to turn the device on then off for it to save the ring tone and the file format you need is a .MID
myxer.com is a pretty decent site.
Try phonezoo.com
I've used that site on multiple devices and it works fine with the Kin 2m. It saves the ringtones as "unknown" so you can't save more than one ringtone at a time, but its better then nothing. Its free btw.
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Try phonezoo.com
I've used that site on multiple devices and it works fine with the Kin 2m. It saves the ringtones as "unknown" so you can't save more than one ringtone at a time, but its better then nothing. Its free btw.
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myxer.com works on the Kin TwoM and it'll save the ringtone as what you name it as. For example, if you label it Ring - Tone, you'll see it like that in your ringtones in a slightly different font than the standard.
Thank you! ^_^ Myxer does a 40 second cut, while phonezoo has a 20 second cut.
Just a thought on ringtones. I put my first custom ringtone on my phone (sent it from my wife's old phone) and found the music quality was poor compared to the old phone. The file is a MIDI file, so that might have something to do with it.
Since we can't delete ringtones, I would suggest using the same test filename for every ringtone you want to "test" on your phone to see if it works or not. Once you're satisfied with the quality/volume/length of it, then change the filename and send it again, to make it a permanent tone on your phone.
From my understanding, MP3 and MIDI files work. I don't know about other file types, but if an MP3 isn't working, then use something like Audacity to chop it down to a 20-30 second clip.
Does anyone have a mp3 to mid converter that I can use?
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Does anyone have a mp3 to mid converter that I can use?
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No, it's not possible, as MIDI files don't use the same structure as an MP3 file. You're better off looking online for a MIDI version of the song you want (someone else spent the time creating it) or just use an MP3 file.
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Alternatively you can send an email with the file attached to [email protected] but remember that there is a limit to the file size.
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That won't work. The email isn't correct. It's supposed to be [email protected]. (not vzwPICS). And the file size limit is 500 KB.
Verizon Ringtone Audio File Format
Verizon supports the Qualcomm QCELP (.qcp) file format for ringtones. The sound quality is horrible, but it works. The KIN allows you to save MMS-attached .qcp files directly as a ringtone.
I can't find a codec for this format, but there is a free web site made specifically for ringtone conversion at makeownringtone.com (used to be "ringtuna.com", which unfortunately got purloined by a domain squatter).
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Verizon supports the Qualcomm QCELP (.qcp) file format for ringtones. The sound quality is horrible, but it works. The KIN allows you to save MMS-attached .qcp files directly as a ringtone.
I can't find a codec for this format, but there is a free web site made specifically for ringtone conversion at makeownringtone.com (used to be "ringtuna.com", which unfortunately got purloined by a domain squatter).
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The Kin supports MP3 ringtones as well, doesn't it?
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The Kin supports MP3 ringtones as well, doesn't it?
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Yes, officially it supports MIDI, MP3, and QCP. I've only tried MIDI and MP3 on mine. MIDI is really tinny sounding, compared to my old Moto e815 phone. And the MP3 files, the only way I've found to get them on the phone is through MMS from another phone. I tried multiple "send a ringtone to your phone" sites, but Verizon stripped the file from the message upon delivery. I had to reactivate my old phone on another number and message it to myself, to get it.
From my understanding, Verizon's site allows you to upload and send MIDI and QCP files to your phone, from their site. I haven't tried it yet, since I have not been able to get a QCP file that sounds decent, and the MIDI files I have don't sound good in my tests.
(if you want a decent program for converting to QCP, look for QCP Converter by D.R Software. I used version 8.05 and it was okay, but I think it had a limit on the number it converts before you register/pay for it. If you have access to a virtual machine, snapshots before converting are your friend.)
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Yes, officially it supports MIDI, MP3, and QCP. I've only tried MIDI and MP3 on mine. MIDI is really tinny sounding, compared to my old Moto e815 phone. And the MP3 files, the only way I've found to get them on the phone is through MMS from another phone. I tried multiple "send a ringtone to your phone" sites, but Verizon stripped the file from the message upon delivery. I had to reactivate my old phone on another number and message it to myself, to get it.
From my understanding, Verizon's site allows you to upload and send MIDI and QCP files to your phone, from their site. I haven't tried it yet, since I have not been able to get a QCP file that sounds decent, and the MIDI files I have don't sound good in my tests.
(if you want a decent program for converting to QCP, look for QCP Converter by D.R Software. I used version 8.05 and it was okay, but I think it had a limit on the number it converts before you register/pay for it. If you have access to a virtual machine, snapshots before converting are your friend.)
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Have you tried emailing the MP3 file to [email protected]? That seems to work for me.
I was messing around with the files it creates with the record feature recently. I Googled it too and didn't come up with much but many other people who wanted to gack the audio too. Somewhere I read that the files were .m4a format, so for laughs I added the file extension to a file. Well, it played with the stock music player then. I tried it again, opening up the file with root explorer, but using poweramp to play it. Poweramp read the file as a 44.1k 128k mp3 file. Hmmmm... I renamed the file extension to mp3 but then the stock music player wouldn't play it saying its an unsupported format. Weird. More futzing around time. Poweramp still said it was a mp3. Why won't stock player play it? Tried removing the file extension then clicked on the file, with root explorer, and it asked me how I wanted to open the file as. I went to the second general tab and selected audio then play with stock player. It worked then. Hmm. That answered questions but it sucks that it records only at 128k. Maybe some people have wondered about this and didn't know the answer, so I thought I'd pass this along.
There's more to xda then just our phone. You would pass this information to far more people if u went to the android app section of xda. Browse xda sir. There's a lot ur missing.
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I've been searching for awhile using many different key words, and don't know exactly how to word what I'm trying to say, but is there an app or any method of capturing the audio signal of anything being played directly by the device?
For example, I listen to a news podcast every day on TuneIn, and sometimes there's a snippet of a news story that I want to share with my friends. The built in TuneIn recorder outputs a proprietary format which is impossible to convert without a PC, and I don't want to spend the time doing that for a 2 minute clip. I'd just like to record it on the fly using my phone, so I can send it via MMS or email (preferably mp3).
Is there a way to record the audio directly from internal soundcard before it hits the speakers? The only way I can do it right now is to record the speaker output with the microphone via voice recorder, and obviously the quality is poor at best.
Thanks
Ok. This might seem really weird, and certainly not what the app is intended for. But..I think this might work for you. I use beyond pod as a player, whether that matters or not, idk. I also have an app called Ringdroid. This app allows you to take any audio file on your phone and edit it/slice it, and turn it into a ringtone. When I open ringdroid, all my podcast audio files are also there as options to slice and dice. I can slide the slider to where I want the cut to begin, and another slider to where I want it to end. Then hit save, and it's saved in my sd. Might work?
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You can capture live program with Tunein Radio Pro.
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You can capture live program with Tunein Radio Pro.
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Dude, really? Did you read my post? I have TuneIn Pro and it outputs a proprietary format, not a format I can share unless my friend has TuneIn Pro also .
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Dude, really? Did you read my post? I have TuneIn Pro and it outputs a proprietary format, not a format I can share unless my friend has TuneIn Pro also .
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You can try File Converter from play store. That application converts audio files, video files, text files, and many more to the format that you want. Then you can share with whoever you want via email or text.
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Dude, really? Did you read my post? I have TuneIn Pro and it outputs a proprietary format, not a format I can share unless my friend has TuneIn Pro also .
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Are you sure?
I captured some stations in mp3 format and it works fine.
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Are you sure?
I captured some stations in mp3 format and it works fine.
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No, I'm just lying and made everything up to play a joke on XDA members. Just recorded 4 different clips on 4 different stations, and it places files corresponding only to the TuneIn application in the TuneIn Radio folder along with a .nomedia file. Adding a .mp3 to the files doesn't help, all the audio applications say "Cannot open file type."
Search Google and you'll find plenty of other discussions about this, so let me ask you, are you sure it records in mp3? Because your case is not the common one.
Oh, and don't litter in my thread and insult my intelligence with nothing useful to add to the topic. Now **** off.
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No, I'm just lying and made everything up to play a joke on XDA members. Just recorded 4 different clips on 4 different stations, and it places files corresponding only to the TuneIn application in the TuneIn Radio folder along with a .nomedia file. Adding a .mp3 to the files doesn't help, all the audio applications say "Cannot open file type."
Search Google and you'll find plenty of other discussions about this, so let me ask you, are you sure it records in mp3? Because your case is not the common one.
Oh, and don't litter in my thread and insult my intelligence with nothing useful to add to the topic. Now **** off.
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Ease up a bit, maybe someone will be able to give you a useful answer. That guy didn't have what yougave him coming, it sounded like he was trying to help.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement