Okay I do apologize in advance about the noob-ness of this thread.
Alright i have my defy, it's rooted. That was easy. Now i'm on to more complicated things, Cyanogen Mod. I have read Quarx and Zephyrot's thread on the matter. However, to me it seems fairly easy you just need to know what to download. That's the thing i'm not quite sure on that part. If there was some way i could have somebody tell me what I need for that would be very much appriciated. If there is anything you need to know about the phone just ask.
I haven't done anything to the phone except update to 2.2.1 and root it.
Again I do apologize for the noob-ness and any information is greatly apprciated.
okay
Okay I was able to get cm7 up and running giving me 2.3.4 however i didnt include the gapps file so i couldn't get the market. looking over quarx's thread i thought i could just do it again just with the added gapps pack on the sd card. however i just realized that i didnt have cwm or 2nd init installed on my phone since the flash. i had already done the wipes for the flash when i finally realized it. i think im now stuck on a boot loop. if someone could help me get back to the stock froyo that would be so much help.
Installing Quarx's cm7 does NOT remove 2nd init, in fact it is included in the zip you flashed. Wiping data/cache will not remove 2nd init. Only flashing a sbf or uninstalling it will remove it! You are in a bootloop because (probably) you wiped in stock recovery? In which case you should still have 2nd init. If you wiped in custom recovery then this shows that you did have CWM because you were in it when you wiped. If you were in it then you should have wiped, flash cm7, then flash gapps all in one session. Only wipe in stock recovery if you plan on flashing a sbf otherwise always use custom recovery. To go back to stock rom wipe in stock recovery then boot into bootlader and flash stock sbf with RSD. I have always been under the impression that even wiping from stock recovery will not remove 2nd init! Someone please correct me if I'm wrong
right now i just want my phone to work. so since i had 2.3.4 (i think thats what it was) because of cm7 what sbf do i need. or could i just use 2.2.1.
Yes you can easily downgrade from cm7 using your stock 2.2 sbf or any 2.2 sbf for that matter (There may be an exception to this rule so read carefully the sbf you are going to flash) Only flashing a full 2.3.4 sbf will prevent a downgrade But in general you should be able to flash ANY 2.2 sbf coming from cm7
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hello!
i now have 3.4.3-11. the phone is rooted!
what is the safest way to flash a new rom when it will be available.
i've heard that if i wipe from recovery before installing new rom with rsd lite, the phone could get in bootloop because of the root. but if i install directly and wipe at the end, will the phone remain rooted?
what is the safest way?
No it's not true.
You always have to wipe before flash a new sbf with RSDlite. Flashing a new ROM will "unroot" your phone, so you have to root again after flashing.
mihik said:
No it's not true.
You always have to wipe before flash a new sbf with RSDlite.
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Does that not depend upon what version sbf you are flashing?
When I went from eclair 2.1 up to froyo 2.2 I wiped before flashing (also wiped after just in case) but when I recently went from the UK froyo to a newer leaked UK froyo sbf I didn't wipe at all & everything worked fine
There are a lot of comments in dev part where users have FCs and app errors and most of the cases they didn't wipe before flash.
So may be you were lucky.
It's up to you,but he asked the safest way.
I was only asking the question as I wasn't sure myself as i'm not fully clued up yet.
The first time I did wipe when going from éclair.
Maybe I was lucky the second time but I would have wiped if there was an issue - just didn't want to have to input all my settings again if I didn't need to. But it all went OK so no worries.
Sent from my MotoDefy.
Howdy!
I am in the UK on Vodafone, and was running CM7. This was installed over the UK Froyo update supplied via the Motorola Update tool.
All was well, until my phone randomly went off. When I turned it on there was nothing but fleeting glimpses of the CM7 loading screen (as if the screen was flickering on and off).
The only way that I could get the phone working again was to follow this procedure found in Zephyrot's Defy Beginner's Guide:
Installed full Gingerbread SBF and can’t go back to another rom: aha! We have a issue here!, latest Stock Gingerbread full SBFs comes with a Version 5 of the CG, meaning until not long ago you were pretty much screwed. But wait, there is hope! A one kind Éclair has been found in China Defys that comes with Version 5 CG!.
How to fix it:
Download this SBF and Flash it
Root your Phone
Download 2nd Init and Install ClockworkMod Recovery
Download and install this Nandroid Backup
Enter Recovery, Wipe Data/Cache
After wiping, turn off your phone
Turn it on and get immediately into Bootloader mode
Flash this Fixed SBF
Delete Data/Cache again and reboot.
You WONT be able to install full SBFs of any Éclair or Froyo since these Androids have lower CG Versions.
This leaves me with a working version of Froyo. I did not install a full Gingerbread.sbf previously, and the backup that I made before installing CM7 leaves me without anything happening also.
What I would like to know is how to get back on to CM7 if possible? If I try and flash any .sbf the phone goes dead and I have to start again with the process above. If I install 2nd Init/clockworkmod on the Froyo that I can get to work as a result of the above process the phone goes into a boot loop and I can't get into stock recovery or anything, so end up having to go back through the process again. Does anyone have any ideas, or am I stuck forever now?
Edit - just finished restoring it for the 50th time and wanted to add that the version that I can get to work is
Moto_Version34.179.2.MB525.Retail.en.CEE
Firmware Version: 2.2.2
Build Number JOREM_U3_3.4.2_179-2
You need to go into stock recovery (power + down I think) next press both volume keys. Wipe cache and data. Next reboot into motorola flash tools and install a fixed sbf of a froyo ROM. Next install CM7 if you want. You can find/make the fixed sbf in the beginners guide.
If you install CM first wipe everything in custom recovery.
Sent from my MB525
I've done that and no luck, sometimes the phone has booted up and frozen on the red M, other times it has been totally unresponsive. The only Froyo ROM that I can get to respond is the fixed one linked in the guide, which won't let me install custom recovery. I'll try again with some different fixed ROMS tonight. Thanks
when does this happen? When you install froyo or CM7
Sent from my MB525
It seems like you can't downgrade that easy. The fixed sbf removes the system files. You need to install a nand backup first. But you can't install cwm to install a nand without root access. Check the page of the ginger you installed. I think it can by now. Also check CM7 page as a member seemed to can use stock recovery.
Sentrestore from my MB525
I'll do some more searching when I get to my laptop with everything on. Essentially the only version of Froyo that I can install won't let me run CWM (it installs with no problems, I can root the phone without any issues). It just gets stuck in a boot loop as soon as I try to restart the phone. I can't get into stock or custom recovery at this point to wipe data/cache.
I tried with a nand backup and fixed sbf, but will try some different combinations. I still have my initial nand backup from before I started flashing anything. I'll do some more rooting around later on. I suppose I have a working phone for now, just not how I would like it!
Thanks
I had a trouble with my old CM7 after try to install a new BOOTLOADER, as I explain in this post
Now I follow the instructions in this post and I have a 4.5.1-134-DFP-132-Android 2.3.6, and I wans't able to downgrade. I flashed various Full SBF, some worked some not.
I was trying to install a CM rom but I can't, I even don't know which one I have to chose.
Can some one give me a link with the one I must use?
I got the rom rooted with SuperOneclick and sndInit instaled the 1.0.7 BL instaled.
Thanks
I wonder... what is the puprose of installing updated kernel and bootloader? What did it give to you???
I guess nothing good, in my case now I'm locked with a ROM I dislike, full BLUR and battery drain... :_(
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I had a trouble with my old CM7 after try to install a new BOOTLOADER, as I explain in this post
Now I follow the instructions in this post and I have a 4.5.1-134-DFP-132-Android 2.3.6, and I wans't able to downgrade. I flashed various Full SBF, some worked some not.
I was trying to install a CM rom but I can't, I even don't know which one I have to chose.
Can some one give me a link with the one I must use?
I got the rom rooted with SuperOneclick and sndInit instaled the 1.0.7 BL instaled.
Thanks
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well grosss! the sbf you ve flashed. its mentioned above there that no downgrade to GB 2.3.4. and can't even flash cm7. so betta not to flash those. try flashing MS2Ginger By Walter79 or any defy+ Rom or any rom of spears DHT. this would definately help you. after that you could downgrade .but never flash the full sbf as you hae done
Whenever you install a new ROM or zip file, do a wipe data / cache before and after, to be sure.
If you do not make any new SBF will not work.
To do this, turn on the device with the vol-button pressed until the icon appears Custon recovery. After that press Vol + (or both together), select wipe data / factory and then cache (go to Vol-/ + and OK button to power on / off).
If the android does not start, reinstall the SBF and do the procedure again.
Hello,
i have a Problem with my Defy, i have no working Clockworkmod (CWM) or other Custom Recovery Mod.
Now my Defy have the Bootloop and the only thing i can reach ist the Stock Recovery Mode.
In there i can only install a update.zip, but all versions i would instal from CWM give a signature error.
Is it possible to install a Custom Recovery Mod only with the Stock Recovery Mode?
After this i can start the Custom Recovery Mod and install my last used Custom Rom, without losing my data.
Greetings.
Stock recovery can not flash anything that does not come from motorola, and it can not be replaced due to the fact that the bootloader is locked. Your only solution is to reflash/flash an sbf through rsdlite
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy
Ok, that means that the thread on xda, do sign a update.zip, doenst work realy?
If i reflash the same sbf and the same custom rom, are the data deleted?
In most installation guides it says wipe manual?!
Thanks.
instantgip said:
Ok, that means that the thread on xda, do sign a update.zip, doenst work realy?
If i reflash the same sbf and the same custom rom, are the data deleted?
In most installation guides it says wipe manual?!
Thanks.
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The zips on XDA are to flash with the 2nd-init recovery. To install that you must be rooted and use an app on the market (2nd-init installer). But that custom recovery does not replace the stock one seen as we can't overwrite it.
In order to flash a new sbf:
In stock recovery wipe data/factory reset
Plug phone in PC in bootloader mode (power+vol up?)
Flash sbf with RSDLite
Pretty easy, find which sbf was for your contry/carrier .
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy
Hello,
thanks, what a pity that after a bootloop the data are not accessible anymore.
Greetings.
Because i was in the Bootloop i risk to install the same SFB that i have all the time installed, without anything wiping.
It works! I have acces to all my Data! I make a backup of everything und then i wiped to make a clean install.
Now i am on a new sbf and a newer rom, without losing any data.
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Because i was in the Bootloop i risk to install the same SFB that i have all the time installed, without anything wiping.
It works! I have acces to all my Data! I make a backup of everything und then i wiped to make a clean install.
Now i am on a new sbf and a newer rom, without losing any data.
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How did you manage that without 2nd-init recovery?
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy
I think he used titanium backup, SMS backup & Restore...
In fact I saw that there is a problem in the links for the 2ndInit apk in Pedrodh thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
All the downloading files at the end of the first post are in zip format now.:-(
So without custom recovery its impossible to use them. But I can be wrong and there is a way to do that?
No i was in bootloop and have only acces to the stock rom manager.
I take the phone in the bootmodus and flashed my old used sbf with rds, without wiping.
Then I start the phone normaly and see that some things was from the stock sbf and some things was from the custom rom that i used before. In my case Pays Rom Defy 5.1 .
Then i look if the Data were accesible, and yes it was. it backup my sms and contacts with MyPhoneExplorer.
Reboot in stock manager again, wipe all data and installed a new sbf and new miui custom rom, like the install guide it said.
instantgip said:
No i was in bootloop and have only acces to the stock rom manager.
I take the phone in the bootmodus and flashed my old used sbf with rds, without wiping.
Then I start the phone normaly and see that some things was from the stock sbf and some things was from the custom rom that i used before. In my case Pays Rom Defy 5.1 .
Then i look if the Data were accesible, and yes it was. it backup my sms and contacts with MyPhoneExplorer.
Reboot in stock manager again, wipe all data and installed a new sbf and new miui custom rom, like the install guide it said.
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Ah ok, thanks for your answer... ;-)
Hey All
I'm in need of some help. For some reason this whole SBF thing is completely confused me
My Defy
System Version: Moto_Version.34.30.3601.MB525.Vodacome.en.GB
Firmware Version: 2.2.2
Baseband Version: EPU93_U_00.59.02
Build number: JEM_3.4.3-36-1
(Unsure if these will help)
Anyway, I'm wanting to put CM7 or another custom rom onto my phone, but they all seem to be version 2.3 or so, but I want to be able to drop down to my original rom in case I need to return the phone for something
I did the official update to 2.2.2 from 2.1, which was lucky as with my 2.1 stock rom Clockworkmod couldn't read my memory card, seemed to be a common glitch with the SBF version it had, but it seems fine now
I read somewhere to use a Nordic nandroid backup for some reason, cant remember, just found it in my download folder from attempting to get clockworkmod to work on 2.1, restored the image onto my phone, which worked fine, but that seemed to be a no risk flash
So now I'm confused on how to proceed to putting on a custom rom, I fear that I'm going to **** up something, or going to run into issues if I try change to different custom roms
I'm possibly just over thinking what is meant to be done, and it is way simpler than it seems at the moment
anyone have some advice?
Using nordic as a base is old, custom runs like cm7 work on any base.
As long as you don't flash full sbf of gingerbread builds via rsdlite you can always go back to your original 2.2 by flashing full sbf through rsdlite.
Okay coming to installation of custom roms, first thing is to root it. You can use super one click for that. Then install defy 2ndinit after that boot menu and recovery.then you are all set to install custom roms.
For cm7, down load the zip and install through cwm.
Restart phone and as soon you see blue led press volume down, this would put you into boot menu.then select custom/stable recovery. Select wipe user data/factory reset.then go to advanced and select wipe dalvik cache. Come back and select install from zip and give cm7 zip, after finished reboot. It will now boot with cm7, first boot will take few minutes 2-3. It is generally cm7 first boot is in loop, if you are stuck just remove battery and put back and restart.
You can go through cm7 installation thread for better clarity.
Enjoy flashing!
Sent from my MB526 using XDA App
Thanks for the reply
So basicly I just flash the rom straight in clock work mod, no need for fixed SBF's or anything?
Do I need to back up/make full SBF of my stock SBF or something?
Is CM7 7.1 based on Froyo, and you'd just flash it straight from the memory card in Clockwork mod?
Or have I missed the point and meant to flash a fixed SBF to allow for gingerbread or any roms and then reflash 2.2 back on when I want to retore stock again?
Well I went ahead and installed Motogamer, which I downloaded last night and its working fine, but it seems to be based on the froyo kernal
I'm still a little confused as CM7.1 looks like its gingerbread, unsure of the downgradeability to my froyo stock rom, but this rom had no issue when I used my nandroid backup to restore to my stock rom
Thanks for the help
CM7.1 stable is android 2.3.7 with froyo kernel. And there is CM7.2 nightlies with both froyo and gingerbread kernels. I use the defy+ CM7.2 with gingerbread kernel from Quarx (this gives me better battery life) http://quarx2k.ru/, since i have redlens defy.
You dont have worry about the downgradability as long as you dont flash full sbf of gingerbread using rsdlite. All the dev custom roms have no problem in downgrading back to your original stock froyo. Look at if there is any WARNING IN RED regarding downgradability when you download any rom.
There are good number of ROMs to try, whenever you change ROM remember to do full wipe (factory reset and wipe dalvik cache), back up your apps and other information before you do this. If you are upgrading to night revision of same ROM, for example next nightly of CM7.2 we dont have do to full wipe, just cache and dalvik cache wipe would be fine.
If you like Stock ROM, try MS2ginger3.0 which gives awesome battery life and with full blur functionality if you like.
Awesome, thanks
I'm really keen to try more custom roms out, really happy so far with this new one at the moment, but will probably try CM7 soon
Thanks for the advice, not sure I'll go back to stock rom for a long time, just feared that I'd **** something up and not be able to return to stock if needed to
Really keen to start seeing what android really has to offer now