hello!
i now have 3.4.3-11. the phone is rooted!
what is the safest way to flash a new rom when it will be available.
i've heard that if i wipe from recovery before installing new rom with rsd lite, the phone could get in bootloop because of the root. but if i install directly and wipe at the end, will the phone remain rooted?
what is the safest way?
No it's not true.
You always have to wipe before flash a new sbf with RSDlite. Flashing a new ROM will "unroot" your phone, so you have to root again after flashing.
mihik said:
No it's not true.
You always have to wipe before flash a new sbf with RSDlite.
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Does that not depend upon what version sbf you are flashing?
When I went from eclair 2.1 up to froyo 2.2 I wiped before flashing (also wiped after just in case) but when I recently went from the UK froyo to a newer leaked UK froyo sbf I didn't wipe at all & everything worked fine
There are a lot of comments in dev part where users have FCs and app errors and most of the cases they didn't wipe before flash.
So may be you were lucky.
It's up to you,but he asked the safest way.
I was only asking the question as I wasn't sure myself as i'm not fully clued up yet.
The first time I did wipe when going from éclair.
Maybe I was lucky the second time but I would have wiped if there was an issue - just didn't want to have to input all my settings again if I didn't need to. But it all went OK so no worries.
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Im running ClockworkMod v2.6.0.1 and I originally wanted to flash the new MIUI ROM 1.2.4. I followed the directions numerous times with no success. Then I decided to just Flash the first MIUI Rom 1.1.7, Yes Success! Then I tried the next bit of directions for the ones who presently had an older version (1.1.7) to upgrade to the new (1.2.4) and still I could not get that to work. I guess it was not meant to be. But i really hope to get the updated one later this evening when I attempt it again. Maybe im doing something wrong...help me out, Im trying to get used to this. Thanks!!!
Very easy, friend.
In Amon Ra/Clockwork you must wipe your /data and caches. (Also known as "full wipe").
Then, the magic bit - you must also wipe /system.
After performing these wipes install the MIUI .zip.
Then I personally install Zendroid 1.1.0 AVS / BFS.
I reboot then, and I am in MIUI.
I then enjoy MIUI.
I hope you enjoy MIUI.
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Im running ClockworkMod v2.6.0.1 and I originally wanted to flash the new MIUI ROM 1.2.4. I followed the directions numerous times with no success. Then I decided to just Flash the first MIUI Rom 1.1.7, Yes Success! Then I tried the next bit of directions for the ones who presently had an older version (1.1.7) to upgrade to the new (1.2.4) and still I could not get that to work. I guess it was not meant to be. But i really hope to get the updated one later this evening when I attempt it again. Maybe im doing something wrong...help me out, Im trying to get used to this. Thanks!!!
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Or if all else fails time to step up and get Amon it never fails.......
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To install MIUI, you need to do a full wipe [data reset, cache, dalvik] then flash your rom. After that you can flash a keernel if you wish to.
I've always used Calkulin's format-all.zip to fully wipe before installing or even updating MIUI. I rarely have any reboots. Don't forget you need to set the wifi sleep policy to Never.
Thanks to all!!!
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I've always used Calkulin's format-all.zip to fully wipe before installing or even updating MIUI. I rarely have any reboots. Don't forget you need to set the wifi sleep policy to Never.
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You guys have been helpful, but let me make sure I understand correctly. Stated by BigMoogle. Im in recovery, I flash format-all.zip and also wipe [data reset, cache, dalvik]? Now that I only need an upgrade, all i need to do is format-all.zip and then flash the new updated version?
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You guys have been helpful, but let me make sure I understand correctly. Stated by BigMoogle. Im in recovery, I flash format-all.zip and also wipe [data reset, cache, dalvik]? Now that I only need an upgrade, all i need to do is format-all.zip and then flash the new updated version?
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Just flash format-all.zip. No need to also write data, cache and dalvik. Then flash the rom. Reboot. Set wifi sleep policy to Never.
I have seen your name on MiUi dev site.
Was running 3.4.11 tmobile uk, upgraded from 2.51 via sbf.
Just restored the new offical korean nandroid and too my surprise did not need to touch the bootloader, it just booted
You mean u didnt had to flash de sbf?
Just restored the backup?
Yes, thats correct I have done it 3 more times to be sure. However carfeul over the version of recovery you install, ensure it is the one for froyo
interesting.
and everything runs normally?
if so we could assume that they got things in common.
but i wouldnt assume that any froyo version can do that.
My thoughts are the bootloader is backwards compatible, I haven't tried yet but I would expect that and nandroid of froyo will work on same bootloader, just wipe cache to resolve data clashes
Flashed Chinese 1.11 ROM with uk_bootonly, it's actually recommended by someone who says they're compatible.
Hi guys,
New to xda.. I own a defy with 2.2.2 official SEA. I want to update to CM7 RC0, without losing the downgrade ability. After reading a lot in xda, I've got a fair amount of knowledge to flash my phone. Just have a couple of queries..
6) Can I restore my phone to send it to warranty after flashing CM7?
- You can in these two situations
1 - You have a full SBF of your original ROM (for carriers that already released 2.2 is very easy to find one)
2 - You have a nandroid backup AND a fixed SBF of the version you need.
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Quick question:
Considering option 1, I have the official ROM (full sbf, 2.2.2 for India) downloaded here. If I flash to CM7, can I re-flash it with the official full sbf to claim warranty? Considering the scenario that I only have contacts and sms to restore and I don't want to restore settings, apps and all. I like to do them anew (even if it takes time).
Technically, that would be like formatting the drive which has the operating system, instead of restoring an image.. Is that possible? Is Nandroid Backup + fixed sbf is the only way to go back to the stock OS to claim warranty?
P.S. - I still don't get what fixed sbf is. Can anyone help?
Just create a backup of your current OS if anything happens restore it.
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Just create a backup of your current OS if anything happens restore it.
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You mean Nandroid backup? Can i restore just that file (and not the sbf) in case anything goes wrong?
If your device is rooted download the 1.4.2 version of 2ndinit go into custom recovery and create a backup, then boot back up normally and connect device to the computer and copy the backup to a safe place on your computer, so if you ever need to back it up, you will have the file.
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I mean do I always need an sbf file to restore an image?
No you only need sbf. file to flash a image, to restore and image all you need is a copy of a backup.
Hmm.. okay... Consider this scenario:
1. I'm having official 2.2.2 SEA ROM
2. I just want to root, install a custom recovery (take a backup in Nandroid), make changes to the current ROM and I'm NOT flashing a new ROM ie like CM7.
3. Can I just restore the backup from recovery if something goes wrong (without any sbf of course)?
4. Do I still have to install 2nd init in that case?
P.S. - Thanks to your patient replies bro.. Much appreciated
Yes you can downgrade back to sea version using sbf file
Just make a nandroid backup if anything goes wrong restore the nandroid you made plus flash it with the fixed or full sbf file of sea and it will bring everything back the way it was that's what i did anyway and it worked
Let me know how cm7 is on the SEA version if it works stable ill install it
Cheers
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Hmm.. okay... Consider this scenario:
1. I'm having official 2.2.2 SEA ROM
2. I just want to root, install a custom recovery (take a backup in Nandroid), make changes to the current ROM and I'm NOT flashing a new ROM ie like CM7.
3. Can I just restore the backup from recovery if something goes wrong (without any sbf of course)?
4. Do I still have to install 2nd init in that case?
P.S. - Thanks to your patient replies bro.. Much appreciated
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Yes 2ndinit is a custom recovery program as long as you have that you wont need sbf. Files. Sbf. Files are used with RSD lite in order to install custom roms. You can use any recovery program you want, best I have found to use on the defy is 1.4.2 version of 2ndinit.
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memz180 said:
Yes you can downgrade back to sea version using sbf file
Just make a nandroid backup if anything goes wrong restore the nandroid you made plus flash it with the fixed or full sbf file of sea and it will bring everything back the way it was that's what i did anyway and it worked
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Why should i use Nandroid, If I want to flash with full sbf of my SEA official ROM?It'll be factory fresh right?
Let me know how cm7 is on the SEA version if it works stable ill install it
Cheers
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Sure.. But in Quarx's thread, It was advised to flash Nordic ROM first before installing CM7.
WolVish said:
Why should i use Nandroid, If I want to flash with full sbf of my SEA official ROM?It'll be factory fresh right?
I just restored my old nandroid and flashed with the fixed sbf but i believe if you do a full sbf it will result in the same thing both ways should work
Sure.. But in Quarx's thread, It was advised to flash Nordic ROM first before installing CM7.
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Yes thats correct some people have installed over the SEA version and its full working im yet to test this i have however tested the NORDIC II version and flashed cm7 beta 6 and that did work nicely but i went back to SEA15 until cm7 releases a more bug free version.
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Yes thats correct some people have installed over the SEA version and its full working im yet to test this i have however tested the NORDIC II version and flashed cm7 beta 6 and that did work nicely but i went back to SEA15 until cm7 releases a more bug free version.
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What i found in the Official SEA 2.2.2 ROM's thread
ok make sure you do not install CM7 directly on this rom, else boot looping.
Please follow the cyanogenmod7 FAQ point 7. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1065798
i tried and was stuck on boot loop.
Again FLASHED this sea15 sbf via rsd lite back to square1 now need to start the process all again.
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Nordic is the way to go it seems..
Nice find because i just got my sea15 back i listened to someone from here like a idiot they said they were running SEA15 with cm7 which is a lie because it when i installed cm7 i got a never ending boot loop so id like to say it does not work with sea15 it took me an 1hr to restore all my stuff back to the way it was so yes NORDIC I or II is the way to go thanks for the info
You're welcome mate.. Heard review that RC0 is way better than Beta6..
Finnaly the thread i've been looking for.
I'm currently on official German 2.2.2. I really want to try out CM7 but the tutorials keep telling me I need a sbf (wich is not available at this moment) of my version if I want to downgrade again.
So just to be sure:
Having a sbf is not an absolute must?
And in the case anything goes awry (eg. boot loop) I just have to restore it via my nandroid backup, unroot, deinstall 2ndInit, wipe and I'm practically back were I started, right?
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I'm currently on official German 2.2.2. I really want to try out CM7 but the tutorials keep telling me I need a sbf (which is not available at this moment) of my version if I want to downgrade again.
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That's correct. Even if you can't find a full sbf (carrier released version of your OS, usually a large file, 200-300 MB), make sure you have one nandroid backup of your data/settings and a fixed sbf (usually stripped down version, less size <50 MB) of your current OS. This would enable you to re-flash in case you have to claim warranty.
So just to be sure:
Having a sbf is not an absolute must?
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I don't think so. You MUST have one if you want to claim warranty. Even if you don't need warranty, still you need either Nordic ROM or UK ROM (sbf files, mind you )to be flashed first to install CM7.. Other ROMs are not recommended.
And in the case anything goes awry (eg. boot loop) I just have to restore it via my nandroid backup, unroot, deinstall 2ndInit, wipe and I'm practically back were I started, right?
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This only works If you flashed with nandroid + fixed sbf of the Nordic/UK ROM.
OR
You have the full sbf of your current ROM, which you can flash from RSD lite.
Hope this helps...
P.S. - Can anyone confirm these answers?
Aww, well i guess i'll be waiting for the sbf files then
Well, thank you anyway for the info.
Who releases this sbf files anyway? Are they somehow extracted out of offical update packages or are they leaked from service contractors?
I am also confused. I thought a nandroid was a complete image of the phone and didn't require an SBF?
Putting it in PC terms I considered a nandroid the equivilent to a ghost image of a HDD? So if I had a PC with XP on it and took a ghost image of that it would be a complete copy of the drive. I could then install Vista on that drive and when / if I wanted to restore the ghost image and it would restore XP onto that system?
I understood an SBF to be a system image as such, but not including the very base level stuff that a nandroid backup would have and hence why you can flash a 2.2.2 rom but need a 2.2 SBF flashed on the phone?
Or am i getting confused?
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Aww, well i guess i'll be waiting for the sbf files then
Well, thank you anyway for the info.
Who releases this sbf files anyway? Are they somehow extracted out of offical update packages or are they leaked from service contractors?
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I think your German 2.2.2 ROM has been added only yesterday. Go to www.motorola.com/update, select your region - Select MOTODEFY - Follow instructions.. (Don't forget to do a hard reset after updating )
Full sbf s are released by the Manufacturers/Carriers. It's like untouched windows XP cd. You can directly update via MSU or use RSDlite to flash it..
Fixed sbf s can be made by anyone, maybe you or me, by making some tweaks, just like we do to Windows XP using nlite (which i'm still not that familiar with )
Okay I do apologize in advance about the noob-ness of this thread.
Alright i have my defy, it's rooted. That was easy. Now i'm on to more complicated things, Cyanogen Mod. I have read Quarx and Zephyrot's thread on the matter. However, to me it seems fairly easy you just need to know what to download. That's the thing i'm not quite sure on that part. If there was some way i could have somebody tell me what I need for that would be very much appriciated. If there is anything you need to know about the phone just ask.
I haven't done anything to the phone except update to 2.2.1 and root it.
Again I do apologize for the noob-ness and any information is greatly apprciated.
okay
Okay I was able to get cm7 up and running giving me 2.3.4 however i didnt include the gapps file so i couldn't get the market. looking over quarx's thread i thought i could just do it again just with the added gapps pack on the sd card. however i just realized that i didnt have cwm or 2nd init installed on my phone since the flash. i had already done the wipes for the flash when i finally realized it. i think im now stuck on a boot loop. if someone could help me get back to the stock froyo that would be so much help.
Installing Quarx's cm7 does NOT remove 2nd init, in fact it is included in the zip you flashed. Wiping data/cache will not remove 2nd init. Only flashing a sbf or uninstalling it will remove it! You are in a bootloop because (probably) you wiped in stock recovery? In which case you should still have 2nd init. If you wiped in custom recovery then this shows that you did have CWM because you were in it when you wiped. If you were in it then you should have wiped, flash cm7, then flash gapps all in one session. Only wipe in stock recovery if you plan on flashing a sbf otherwise always use custom recovery. To go back to stock rom wipe in stock recovery then boot into bootlader and flash stock sbf with RSD. I have always been under the impression that even wiping from stock recovery will not remove 2nd init! Someone please correct me if I'm wrong
right now i just want my phone to work. so since i had 2.3.4 (i think thats what it was) because of cm7 what sbf do i need. or could i just use 2.2.1.
Yes you can easily downgrade from cm7 using your stock 2.2 sbf or any 2.2 sbf for that matter (There may be an exception to this rule so read carefully the sbf you are going to flash) Only flashing a full 2.3.4 sbf will prevent a downgrade But in general you should be able to flash ANY 2.2 sbf coming from cm7
Hey All
I'm in need of some help. For some reason this whole SBF thing is completely confused me
My Defy
System Version: Moto_Version.34.30.3601.MB525.Vodacome.en.GB
Firmware Version: 2.2.2
Baseband Version: EPU93_U_00.59.02
Build number: JEM_3.4.3-36-1
(Unsure if these will help)
Anyway, I'm wanting to put CM7 or another custom rom onto my phone, but they all seem to be version 2.3 or so, but I want to be able to drop down to my original rom in case I need to return the phone for something
I did the official update to 2.2.2 from 2.1, which was lucky as with my 2.1 stock rom Clockworkmod couldn't read my memory card, seemed to be a common glitch with the SBF version it had, but it seems fine now
I read somewhere to use a Nordic nandroid backup for some reason, cant remember, just found it in my download folder from attempting to get clockworkmod to work on 2.1, restored the image onto my phone, which worked fine, but that seemed to be a no risk flash
So now I'm confused on how to proceed to putting on a custom rom, I fear that I'm going to **** up something, or going to run into issues if I try change to different custom roms
I'm possibly just over thinking what is meant to be done, and it is way simpler than it seems at the moment
anyone have some advice?
Using nordic as a base is old, custom runs like cm7 work on any base.
As long as you don't flash full sbf of gingerbread builds via rsdlite you can always go back to your original 2.2 by flashing full sbf through rsdlite.
Okay coming to installation of custom roms, first thing is to root it. You can use super one click for that. Then install defy 2ndinit after that boot menu and recovery.then you are all set to install custom roms.
For cm7, down load the zip and install through cwm.
Restart phone and as soon you see blue led press volume down, this would put you into boot menu.then select custom/stable recovery. Select wipe user data/factory reset.then go to advanced and select wipe dalvik cache. Come back and select install from zip and give cm7 zip, after finished reboot. It will now boot with cm7, first boot will take few minutes 2-3. It is generally cm7 first boot is in loop, if you are stuck just remove battery and put back and restart.
You can go through cm7 installation thread for better clarity.
Enjoy flashing!
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Thanks for the reply
So basicly I just flash the rom straight in clock work mod, no need for fixed SBF's or anything?
Do I need to back up/make full SBF of my stock SBF or something?
Is CM7 7.1 based on Froyo, and you'd just flash it straight from the memory card in Clockwork mod?
Or have I missed the point and meant to flash a fixed SBF to allow for gingerbread or any roms and then reflash 2.2 back on when I want to retore stock again?
Well I went ahead and installed Motogamer, which I downloaded last night and its working fine, but it seems to be based on the froyo kernal
I'm still a little confused as CM7.1 looks like its gingerbread, unsure of the downgradeability to my froyo stock rom, but this rom had no issue when I used my nandroid backup to restore to my stock rom
Thanks for the help
CM7.1 stable is android 2.3.7 with froyo kernel. And there is CM7.2 nightlies with both froyo and gingerbread kernels. I use the defy+ CM7.2 with gingerbread kernel from Quarx (this gives me better battery life) http://quarx2k.ru/, since i have redlens defy.
You dont have worry about the downgradability as long as you dont flash full sbf of gingerbread using rsdlite. All the dev custom roms have no problem in downgrading back to your original stock froyo. Look at if there is any WARNING IN RED regarding downgradability when you download any rom.
There are good number of ROMs to try, whenever you change ROM remember to do full wipe (factory reset and wipe dalvik cache), back up your apps and other information before you do this. If you are upgrading to night revision of same ROM, for example next nightly of CM7.2 we dont have do to full wipe, just cache and dalvik cache wipe would be fine.
If you like Stock ROM, try MS2ginger3.0 which gives awesome battery life and with full blur functionality if you like.
Awesome, thanks
I'm really keen to try more custom roms out, really happy so far with this new one at the moment, but will probably try CM7 soon
Thanks for the advice, not sure I'll go back to stock rom for a long time, just feared that I'd **** something up and not be able to return to stock if needed to
Really keen to start seeing what android really has to offer now