[Q] Confused Between Vision and Desire Z - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Dear Experts,
I have recently got an Preowned Unlocked - Vision/Desire Z, however prior to purchase I was said that its an HTC Desire Z, but one fine morning when I was trying to transfer some files via BT, the scanned resulted in HTC VISION. Well, I hope u can imagine my situation - Yes I was totally blank...
After that I googled alot for getting the correct configuration of my Handset but finally am posting it here for your advise.
Pl. somebody guide me How to check/ensure that what is the configuration of my phone. Ok let me tell you that I have tried Setting>About Phone>, it says software version is Android 2.2.1, buts its on showing the RAM CAPACITY.
Pl. guide.
Peace
Karan Adhikari

"Vision" is the HTC codename for the device. It was announced and sold in the USA as the "T-mobile G2" and sold everywhere else in the world as the "HTC Desire Z".
It is just one device. On the forums it is regularly referred to as the Vision because most mods/ROMs can be used on either the DZ or the G2, and there's no need to specify between the two.

Thank alot
Sir, Now as per your info, will it be ok if I assume & claim that mine is DZ ? What about when its scanned thru bluetooth, it says HTC Vision. How do I check its Ram & Internal Memory capacity?
Your Inputs are appreciated Sir.
Thanks once again.
Peace
Karan Adhikari
Gujarat- India

Yes your device is a Desire Z (Unless it has T-Mobile written above the screen instead of HTC)
For checking internal storage, you can go to settings, and select Storage from there, the total and available will be listed.
The Vision has 512mb of RAM, but some of that is taken up by the Android system/kernel, so you may see apps/settings reporting it as having a lot less total (mine shows 367mb)
You can find more info here
-Nipqer

I am Convinenced
Thanks Mr.Nipqer, yes there HTC embrossed on the Top of the screen & not TMobile.
Ok. Now are there any optimised Radio settings recommended as I shall be using it in India, so that it can save the Battery. I am on Vodafone's Network. Another thing Will you advise me to Update the ROM from the one stocked Froyo 2.2.1 to Gingerbird 2.3.3?
If yes then which ROM will be the BESTEST one? Will it effect the overall performance of by HTC DZ/Vision?
Finally, pl suggest some link where I can find a Layman's Tutorial to Flash it with an updated ROM.
Peace
Karan Adhikari

For Radios, I would only play with them if you have really poor battery or signal.
There is no answer for which is the 'best' radio, it really seems to be up to the phone itself.
Don't get the official update to gingerbread, as it makes it a bit harder to root.
For a rooting guide I recommend the XDA Wiki or if that seems a bit complex, use the Cyanogenmod Wiki
if you get stuck, jump into the #G2ROOT irc channel on freenode
For a rom, I'd recommend Cyangenmod, or if you want to stick with a sense rom, use Virtuous Sense
-Nipqer

Thanks alot
I thank you for all your information. Mr.Nipqer, will recall back if I am stucked somewhere.
Peace
Karan Adhikari

All Desire Z's are Visions, but not all Visions are Desire Z's

For a rom, I'd recommend Cyangenmod
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have to disagree here, this ROM has a lot of issues, including GPS, wifi-calling, and too many other glitches
I have had great luck with the rmk G-lite ROM's, they are basically stock Gingerbread with mild overclocking and all of the fluff gotten rid of
these ROM have the best battery life of any ROM, and the main thing I like most about them is that they WORK WITHOUT ISSUES

Well each to their own.
I don't find I have any GPS issues with Cyanogenmod, and I never use wifi calling as I'm not in the states.
If you have GPS issues, maybe you should look into wiping your efs data?
-Nipqer

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have to disagree here, this ROM has a lot of issues, including GPS, wifi-calling, and too many other glitches
I have had great luck with the rmk G-lite ROM's, they are basically stock Gingerbread with mild overclocking and all of the fluff gotten rid of
these ROM have the best battery life of any ROM, and the main thing I like most about them is that they WORK WITHOUT ISSUES
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I like pure android roms. HTC sense is good but sometimes is slow and i think has data leak XD. G-lite is very nice and now i am using cyanogenmod. There is another rom like that for ours HTC desire z/vision/g2 ??? XD thanks
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[Q] Rooting by downgrading from HBOOT 0.92 and advice on custom ROM

Hello
I'm a new member here, altho I've been following a few threads for the latest weeks. Now curiosity has killed the cat....
I'm planing on using the recently uncovered method of downgrading from HBOOT 0.92 to 0.80 (or is it .82?) and apply unrevoked3 to gain root on My Desire as explained in the HOWTO. Phone's unbranded and unlocked, so I don't expect any problems to occur there other than to wipe my phone clean. I've been reading enough to feel reasonably confident in these steps.
But then there is the question of what ROM to put on My Desire when I'm done. I'm totally blank here. I've been looking at the descriptions and threads of a few ROMs in the dev-forum, but I can't say it makes me much smarter, except for a couple of ROMs that definitely isn't for me.
I've been quite happy about the HTC Sense that the phone was shipped with since I bought it back in April. Not much different about the new one that came with the Froyo OTA I updated to last weekend. What annoys me the most is the glitch in the Market that was introduced, and that there seems to be doubles of apps in the ROM, like both android and HTC versions of Facebook and others. Waste of space and waste of resources to have both fire up at boot. Same with a few stock installed apps that start at boot that I never use. Useless
Also I'd like to have that annoying boot sound gone, or maybe replaced by some custom stuff.
I also need the Froyo. The Wi-Fi hotspot and increased performance are must-have. App2sd too, but it looks like most ROMs have some implementation of this that at least matches the functionality of the one included in Froyo.
It's not that I am locked up to be a Sense-user, I just haven't tried anything else and don't know better. Love those 7 screens, altho I use only 6 of them. Also I've grown accustomed to a few of the HTC widgets. Eats a lot of screen real-estate, but looks good imo. Haven't looked up many screenshots of optional screens, so I have really no clue what the options are.
Is it obvious that I should apply a modified/rooted HTC-Sense Froyo ROM, or are there others that would match my needs better? I'm an old Linux user, so I'm not afraid to test new UIs. I'd love to hear from you experienced users what you have to recommend an Android-noob.
I suggest using this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
Its the official HTC rooted without hboot 0.92, if you don't like any great modifications, I suggest using this mod.
If you want an other mod, take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Desire#Unofficial_ROMs
Thanks or the reply. That first one is what I had in mind, but it feels "wrong" to stick with stock when I've finally bothered to crack open the phone
Maybe I should look into just how much work it is to swap ROMs and test out a couple for a few days each? Or is there someone who have written up a nice little review listing some of the most important differences between the modified ROMs?
I decided to go for a LeeDroid ROM. Been playing with it for a few hours, and it seems to do the job well
One happy rooted HTC customer
Try Neophyte 1.6 - much better mate Totally stable and has no issues that other custom roms do
Neophyte looks like a good alternative. Thank you
Also looks from the thread on that one that there is a new version coming one of the first days, so I'll stick with LeeDroid untill then. Looks to be a breeze to swap ROMs as long as you don't bother to install every unusefull app for each swap. And a nice way to clean out the phone of various useless stuff LOL

When will there be CDMA Desire Roms?

I just rooted my cdma desire and would like to know if anyone will be wokring on a rom for my phone
How did you do that? Unrevoked 3.2 Isn't out yet is it
Look at their twitter. They tell you how to get a test version.
Sent from my USCC HTC Desire using the XDA App
thats for the heads up. rooted now also.. need a 2.2 now. lol
im wondering how similar the desire is to the incredible or the evo.. i wonder if it could run some of their roms?
the inc is very similar. and would prob work. if it has slcd support. i dunno though. risky. although one should be able to restore a backup
Now someone just has to get the courage up to do it.
Sent from my USCC HTC Desire using the XDA App
Just to let you know
I've rooted my cdma desire and I've tried flashing a couple gsm roms. None of which would boot. If you try flashing any roms on your own make 100% sure you have a backup made because you will end up with a semi-brick and I'm sure nobody here wants to hear you whine about what's a recovery menu.
I've been thinking about making a ROM but I have zero experience. I'm doing a lot of reading but if there are any developers who want to work on a rom, that would be awesome.
i made one with some tweaks that works also i am working on porting a froyo version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8040598#post8040598
the inc is very similar. and would prob work. if it has slcd support. i dunno though. risky. although one should be able to restore a backup
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they are almost identical but for some reason the wifi and bluethooth would not work on a inc rom that i ported even though they are the same chip
I recently got my desire CDMA rooted also, but i used to hangout over in the G1 forum so i kinda know my way around android & root. let me know if i can help with anything. my twitters @BuddhaTeh1337
You can find some CDMA roms here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10469759&postcount=2. Happy flashing !

Yes another Newbie sorry

Hi,
All just got my HTC Desire this morning and eager to go, but not sure how to start.
Can someone let me know in what order I should begin?
My phone is locked to T Mobile and I have 8gb memory card and would like to have gold card, A2SD+ and Froyo 2.2.
Hope I aint sounding too amibitious for a newbie, just want to do things in the right order.
Please asume I a total numbskull (wife does)
Reagrds
I'd wait for UnrEVOked 3.2 to be reposted (it has been removed for a short while to sort out some issues).
If it works for you, you won't need a gold card which makes the whole process much easier.
Regards,
Dave
first thing is just use the phone, get used to it, enjoy it. If you then feel you need to look into custom ROMs then read the posts from the Chefs and see which one is right for you. TBH, stock 2.2 is more than adequate unless you wanna install an obscene amounts of apps
EddyOS said:
first thing is just use the phone, get used to it, enjoy it. If you then feel you need to look into custom ROMs then read the posts from the Chefs and see which one is right for you. TBH, stock 2.2 is more than adequate unless you wanna install an obscene amounts of apps
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True that, just enjoy the phone! Right now you havnt really got a reason for upgrading, unless you really want 720p.. 2.1 is just as fast, just dont mess with the phone too kuch for now.. do you have an amoled or an slcd version?!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
cheers Guys,
Guess I am too eager and my son dont help either with his new iphone4, showing off all the time!!
Version is amoled.
Regards
Jazyt said:
cheers Guys,
Guess I am too eager and my son dont help either with his new iphone4, showing off all the time!!
Version is amoled.
Regards
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new Desire and AMOLED eh? does it just say that on the box or you have checked ?? there are alot of posts so do that or youtube
Jazyt said:
cheers Guys,
Guess I am too eager and my son dont help either with his new iphone4, showing off all the time!!
Version is amoled.
Regards
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Don't worry about the iPhone4, the desire is better imo. Even if it is unrooted, and the iphoney is jb-ed.At least you can hold your phone and call at the same time ;-).
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Ik Desire said:
Don't worry about the iPhone4, the desire is better imo. Even if it is unrooted, and the iphoney is jb-ed.At least you can hold your phone and call at the same time ;-).
Haha, unless your name is Chuck Norris haha..
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I also have to agree with EddyOS.
And keep in mind, most applications coming out now including updated applications have the option to be moved to SD.
So Unrevoked 3.2 will root my desire which was updated OTA with stock froyo 2.2? I have unbranded device btw. Software number is 2.09.405.8, and HBOOT is 0.92.0001
me too has chosen the HTC desire for enleghten my contract with T mobile,.its not a tmobile phone but my provider is ,.i started searching some themes last night ,. and found out i need to root ,. and put a new Rom on it like Leedroid or cyanogen rom for applying some stunning Themes ,. so i dig in deeper all day long today founding out there is not 1 program yet except for unrevoked 3.2(wich is taken due some bugs) that would possible root my android 2.2 phone ,.tho i came across many links from this site,. and enjoy the loads of info on here .
OK I am going to sound really stupid now.
In my eagerness to download apps (some do not have the option to send to SD card) I have used the internal memory up.
How do I configure the phone that all apps get moved to the SD as routine?
Yep a totally dumbo I know, you can beat me up later
Jazyt said:
OK I am going to sound really stupid now.
In my eagerness to download apps (some do not have the option to send to SD card) I have used the internal memory up.
How do I configure the phone that all apps get moved to the SD as routine?
Yep a totally dumbo I know, you can beat me up later
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Yes, you are dumb. Not for downloading too many apps, but because you don't understand that almost every forum has a search function. Even asking the almighty google would have given you the answer without being flamed.
Apps2sd. The app in the marked, not the root-mod. But don't put widgets on sd.
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k4rl0 said:
So Unrevoked 3.2 will root my desire which was updated OTA with stock froyo 2.2? I have unbranded device btw. Software number is 2.09.405.8, and HBOOT is 0.92.0001
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Yes, just rooted my phone on 2.10.405.2/HBOOT 0.93 and it completed fine (got leaked version of 3.2)
Cheers,
Let the beats begin, damn hate being a silver surfer too old to understand this new aged machines.
Bring back the ababacus

I've come over from the dark side.

Hi all.
Not an XDA newbie, but I am a 100% Desire HD newbie.
I've owned a HD2 for the last 18 mths and been flashing stacks of Android builds etc etc....and HD2 has been great, but wayyyy to many irritating problems to continue......so i've sold it and bought a Desire HD and taking delivery of it tommorow.
Couple of questions if it's ok:
1: I owned 2 x HD2 and both of them, along with STACKS of other HD2s suffered a big problem of completely freezing up when either mobile data was turned on, or GPS was turned on, and if the phone got over 33 degrees......I know I shoulda checked before I bought the Desire, but does this happen or is it a common thing with the Desire HD?
2: It's a used phone, but only a few weeks old an in as new condition, BUT, i'm on THREE network (UK) and the phone is locked to Vodaphone........are there any tricks or any recomended, pretty cheap places to unlock it online etc??
(did use search, but found nothing)
Any info, be very much appreciated and looking forward to being a fully fledged member of the Desire HD forum when I get it tommorow
cheers
Matt
Hi Matt, welcome to Desire HD section. I would be glad to help you.
As far as I know, there is no issue such as phone freezing up when using mobile data or gps. The only related issues are either reception or driver's error. But they are kernel and radio related problems.
Depending on the phone's Android OS build, you can either Gingerbreak or simply downgrade to achieve full phone unlock, including the sim unlock that you've asked before. The guide to do so can be found in the Desire HD Android Development Section (stickies and some thread for downgrading).
Have a nice day reading all of it and good luck.
8penned from my blazing fast DHD
drpsyko said:
Hi Matt, welcome to Desire HD section. I would be glad to help you.
As far as I know, there is no issue such as phone freezing up when using mobile data or gps. The only related issues are either reception or driver's error. But they are kernel and radio related problems.
Depending on the phone's Android OS build, you can either Gingerbreak or simply downgrade to achieve full phone unlock, including the sim unlock that you've asked before. The guide to do so can be found in the Desire HD Android Development Section (stickies and some thread for downgrading).
Have a nice day reading all of it and good luck.
8penned from my blazing fast DHD
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cheers dude.
matt
Hey matt congratz on the DHD I know how you feel.
Well the HD2, I pm'ed you ;-)
Believe it or not the DHD has a GPS issue but that has to due to the GPS antenna being in the camera flash plastic thingie and that tends to have contact issues.
You can buy a cheap replacement http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item20b8394272
Wow seems like the guy added £5 to the price I paid a couple of weeks ago.
There are some nice roms here too (I use the MIUI one) and most developers are very rapid to respond to questions.
As far as unlocking goes, wouldn't know as locking by provider is forbidden in Belgium

[Q] Sold my Razr, what's next?

Hi guys!
I'm moving this week to One X coming from Motorola Razr and I'm a bit confused with so many things going on here.
My current device have locked bl and we don't have that much kernels, roms, etc.
I've some knowledge on unlocking HTC devices. I've done this once in a Legend. And already know how to root and use a cwm later. But, atm I just wanna to update my device for testing it (stock) so, my question is about all those roms out there:
Q. what's the best and/or new retail (RUU) rom atm for Tegra 3 One X?
Q. There is any bug in device itself (hardware related). Mean, I saw a lot of complains about lags in sense and an echo on calls? These problems has being fixed in the new roms you're suggesting?
Q. After this testing fase, I'll wanna rum some mods so, what custom rom is really fully working and you recommend. Also a nice kernel for better battery life would be appreciated.
Maybe these questions sounds kinda noob to you, but that's because I am.
Thanks in advance!
Please, ayone? :good:
pedrotorresfilho said:
Hi guys!
I'm moving this week to One X coming from Motorola Razr and I'm a bit confused with so many things going on here.
My current device have locked bl and we don't have that much kernels, roms, etc.
I've some knowledge on unlocking HTC devices. I've done this once in a Legend. And already know how to root and use a cwm later. But, atm I just wanna to update my device for testing it (stock) so, my question is about all those roms out there:
Q. what's the best and/or new retail (RUU) rom atm for Tegra 3 One X?
Q. There is any bug in device itself (hardware related). Mean, I saw a lot of complains about lags in sense and an echo on calls? These problems has being fixed in the new roms you're suggesting?
Q. After this testing fase, I'll wanna rum some mods so, what custom rom is really fully working and you recommend. Also a nice kernel for better battery life would be appreciated.
Maybe these questions sounds kinda noob to you, but that's because I am.
Thanks in advance!
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Congrats to purchasing an amazing phone! Regarding your questions!
1. Never really understood what RUU means, somebody else gonna have to answer that.
2. The hardware issues were in the first batches, it has been fixed now! However I purchased mine the first week it came out, and it has been working flawlessly all the time!
3. My personal favorite roms are ViperX, ARHD and CM10 by tbalden. I would recommend faux kernel also, it's rock stable!
To finish this post, all luck to you and your new phone!
Sent from my HOX running CMX by Tbalden.
The ruu depends on what your devices CID is you can't flash an ruu I'd your phones CID doesn't correspond to the RUUs. Download an app called CID getter and post what your CID is.
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pedrotorresfilho said:
Hi guys!
I'm moving this week to One X coming from Motorola Razr and I'm a bit confused with so many things going on here.
My current device have locked bl and we don't have that much kernels, roms, etc.
I've some knowledge on unlocking HTC devices. I've done this once in a Legend. And already know how to root and use a cwm later. But, atm I just wanna to update my device for testing it (stock) so, my question is about all those roms out there:
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Q. what's the best and/or new retail (RUU) rom atm for Tegra 3 One X?
.11 is the latest EU ROM and the one most people are on. There's a .12 that's been released in the Nordic countries but it only updates the radio; I'm guessing for specific issues they had. Be warned: HTC's randomly denying warranty repairs regardless of the issue for unlocked phones. Also, because of the Apple patent issues, HTC U.S. can't repair an international phone if it requires a motherboard replacement because they can't reload the international s/w. If your phone's not on .11 it's probably an Asian phone. Check in the dev section for their latest ROM. A mega-update is due pretty soon bringing the phone up to 4.0.4 along with a host of performance and feature improvements.
Q. There is any bug in device itself (hardware related). Mean, I saw a lot of complains about lags in sense and an echo on calls? These problems has being fixed in the new roms you're suggesting?
Early on there were a bunch of random QC issues. Things seem to have quited down a bit. There's a Wi-Fi h/w fault and a pretty long thread on it. About +/- 10% of phones seem affected. I have an early-build phone and haven't had any issues with it. As ROM's go, .11 is very stable. The degree of lag you experience is directly corellated with how many widgets, syncs, and apps you've got going at the same time. The forthcoming update which people have been using as a leak speeds things up.
Q. After this testing fase, I'll wanna rum some mods so, what custom rom is really fully working and you recommend. Also a nice kernel for better battery life would be appreciated.
Tons of discussion in the "Mega" thread in the general section and throughout the dev section.
Tingelholm said:
Congrats to purchasing an amazing phone! Regarding your questions!
1. Never really understood what RUU means, somebody else gonna have to answer that.
2. The hardware issues were in the first batches, it has been fixed now! However I purchased mine the first week it came out, and it has been working flawlessly all the time!
3. My personal favorite roms are ViperX, ARHD and CM10 by tbalden. I would recommend faux kernel also, it's rock stable!
To finish this post, all luck to you and your new phone!
Sent from my HOX running CMX by Tbalden.
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Hi!
I really appreciated the reception here. I'm used to the Razr/Maxx forums and did a lot of friends there. But the Locked bl made me move to One X.
I'll try the roms and kernel you've suggested.
Thanks a lot!
ste1164 said:
The ruu depends on what your devices CID is you can't flash an ruu I'd your phones CID doesn't correspond to the RUUs. Download an app called CID getter and post what your CID is.
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Well, after unlocking the bootloader I don't have to worry with CID limitations right? My device is an European one. I bought and I'm waiting it arrive? Do you have any pill to recommend? lol
I'm really excited with this phone and really appreciated the reception man.
Thanks!
BarryH_GEG said:
Q. what's the best and/or new retail (RUU) rom atm for Tegra 3 One X?
.11 is the latest EU ROM and the one most people are on. There's a .12 that's been released in the Nordic countries but it only updates the radio; I'm guessing for specific issues they had. Be warned: HTC's randomly denying warranty repairs regardless of the issue for unlocked phones. Also, because of the Apple patent issues, HTC U.S. can't repair an international phone if it requires a motherboard replacement because they can't reload the international s/w. If your phone's not on .11 it's probably an Asian phone. Check in the dev section for their latest ROM. A mega-update is due pretty soon bringing the phone up to 4.0.4 along with a host of performance and feature improvements.
--Most devices in Brazil are from Europe or USA, mine is from Europe, the international version. HTC leaved Brazil about two months ago due poor sales performance. Can't believe that. We have more people using cellphones here than our population which is about 190 millions. So, I don't have warranty anyway, I'll first be clear of all going ons here to avoid a hard brick :d
Yeah, I saw the mega update news. AFAIK AT&T users already got it right?
Q. There is any bug in device itself (hardware related). Mean, I saw a lot of complains about lags in sense and an echo on calls? These problems has being fixed in the new roms you're suggesting?
Early on there were a bunch of random QC issues. Things seem to have quited down a bit. There's a Wi-Fi h/w fault and a pretty long thread on it. About +/- 10% of phones seem affected. I have an early-build phone and haven't had any issues with it. As ROM's go, .11 is very stable. The degree of lag you experience is directly corellated with how many widgets, syncs, and apps you've got going at the same time. The forthcoming update which people have been using as a leak speeds things up. :good:
--I'll definitively go to this .11. Its 4.0.4 right? I didn't experienced any lags, I'm waiting mine. Bought two days ago. Just don't wanna mess anything. So I'm taking care to do nothing stupid. Hope I'll be getting a good one.
Q. After this testing fase, I'll wanna rum some mods so, what custom rom is really fully working and you recommend. Also a nice kernel for better battery life would be appreciated.[/COLOR]
Tons of discussion in the "Mega" thread in the general section and throughout the dev section.
--That's one of the reasons that made me ask for a guidance here. There are really a lot of stuff going on here. lol
I'm most used to the Razr forum section and you can imagine how bad is the development on a locked bootloader device.
Just for comparison we don't have any kernel, except extra modules hacks, and maybe 3 roms partially working. And Razr was released last year.
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I'm impressed with One X forum. The device itself and you guys. Thanks a lot!
Cheers

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