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Out of space? Lame

Hey all. I have had my desire for about a week now and I'm already out of space. And using too much RAM. Is there anyway to get all my apps to run off the SD card. There must be a reason HTC provided me with a 8gb card. I'm tired of having to un install a app to install a new one.
Please help me out, or direct me to a thread where this is explained. Thanks in advance.
-- Ozz
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To run apps from sd at the moment you'd need to root. Froyo will bring a2sd but who knows when your operator will release it...
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So what does that mean? I need to root my desire? With what Rom? I'm sure I can easily do that with the proper guide.
I can't believe I'm out of space already. This sucks. Omg
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My suggestion to you is, Only have apps your need.
Rubbish I know but well...
The 8Gb card, in my opinion is more fore music and other general stuff like that.

You could try searching:
"Moving ANY app to SD on FroYo (or how to Enable all grayed out 'Move to SD' buttons)"
chuk

Uninstall the games you don't play.
I had Shoot U! And played that only a few times and that is moveable to SD.
More and more devs will move their games to SD but I like to keep a lean machine so Uninstall often.
I use no more than 3 separate apps per day and barely any games so my usage is different to yours but I have up to 30 installed apps and that is it. My mind boggles when people have more than 50 but I'm still running stock. Figure out what is important because that fart app you downloaded pales in comparison to the gas beasts I can generate sometimes.
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Jabbafat23 said:
Uninstall the games you don't play.
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This is good advice.
If you a little proactive with your application management, you can get by with an unrooted device.
For example, I like Google Earth for Android, but I seldom use it and it is a very large app. So, I keep the APK on my SD and when I want to use it, I install it, use it, and then remove it again. I do this even though I'm using Froyo Apps2SD, because if the app is installed it is still consuming space in the Dalvik cache.
The next generation of HTC Android phones won't be such an issue since they are equipping them with more internal memory, and I'd imagine these will largely render any form of Apps2SD obsolete.
Regards,
Dave

It's easy to root. Search for Unrevoked 3. I have 250 mb of apps installed and still have 70mbs of free memory. Many custom roms set it up for you - you don't need to do anything.
I recommend the NextSense rom found in the dev section here.

crazy_horse_uk said:
You could try searching:
"Moving ANY app to SD on FroYo (or how to Enable all grayed out 'Move to SD' buttons)"
chuk
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Did u already do this? Its the SOLUTION to your problem. No root required, very easy to do, etc.

crazy_horse_uk said:
You could try searching:
"Moving ANY app to SD on FroYo (or how to Enable all grayed out 'Move to SD' buttons)"
chuk
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I tried this. It didn't work. I also partitioned the sd card, did whatever I found anywhere on the internet. There was some effect as I had more space for some reason but all of the apps stayed on the main memory. I also couldn't access the ext3 partition from linux, ooops android itself.
If it worked for you, could you please share your ROM, radio, recovery, root method and if you did anything else - partition sd or other?

[Q] How to resolve "Low on Space" error

Hi, Noob here. I have been wrestling with a "Low on Space" error for the last couple weeks. I understand it is a partition issue, and I'm hoping there is a ROM that will resolve the issue. The phone is rooted, but otherwise stock.
I have searched, but was not able to find a post that addresses this issue, even though it seems to be a common one. Maybe I just don't know the lingo.
Could someone point me in the right direction? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Maybe someone can chime in and explain the "partition issue," I'm wondering what that is and why it would be necessary.

Low on space, Google not syncing...
I've recently been getting the "low on space" error too which has been preventing my google accounts (gmail, contacts, calendar, music) from syncing... I'd remove apps, move apps to SD, clear cache and still get the error with no syncing. I thought Twitter was the culprit so I removed that app and then everything started syncing and the error went away. At that point I then added google music beta to sync and once that finished I got the error again and google wouldn't sync. I then cleared data on google music beta and now able to sync again. I'm guessing google music is the culprit, but I thought that would just be caching to the sd card... This is really frustrating since I cannot utilize google music beta right now.
I have plenty of space available as well:
SD: 8.5 free out of 15.5
Internal: 6.2 free out of 6.6
Phone memory: 302 free out of 748.
Any help is appreciated! Thanks!

I am having the same Google sync issues as well, gdemore. It is not really a space issue, as I have plenty available:
SD: 5.2 free out of 7.5
Internal: 4.5 free out of 6.6
Phone memory: 407 free out of 748.
I have moved all apps to SD that I could, and use "1tap cache cleaner" from time to time.
I have gotten the "Low on Space" issue intermittently since the phone was new, but a reboot always made it go away until now.

Is the "Low on Space" error not a common problem on Droid Incredibles? After doing some Google searches, I thought it was. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Go to setting, applications, running and look at what apps are taking up space. Usually twitter, Google earth, Facebook. When you open so many images it caches them so you can review them with minimal loading time but at the cost of precious space. Anytime I get the error I clear data on these apps and it goes away for months, until I've viewed a ton of pictures again, hope this helps
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shemp71 said:
Is the "Low on Space" error not a common problem on Droid Incredibles? After doing some Google searches, I thought it was. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Not for people who are chronic rom flashers because everytime the flash a new one its the same as clearing data
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Clear cache/dalvik, try freeing up some memory by killing a few apps.

Thanks KKellett & dmeadows. I have tried clearing cache, killing apps, clearing data, etc.... I still have the Low on Space error. I'm going to pick a ROM to flash, hoping that will resolve the issue. Maybe getting rid of the bloatware will help.
Given that I have so much space on the phone (see above), I was hoping for a solution that didn't require constant cache clearing/app killing/data clearing, etc. I was hoping some of the ROMs would allow the phone to use more available memory for cache space than is currently allotted. IMHO i shouldn't need to micro-manage apps/cache with so much memory available.

Check your data/data and system/app directories with root explorer and see if there isn't some stuff you can get rid of.
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The "low on space" error comes when the \data\data partition, limited to 150 megabytes, becomes 90% full. Deodexed ROM's tend to take up more space in that partition than odexed ROM's. Sense takes up a considerable amount of space there, as do contacts. For instance, my daughter has thousands of Google and FB contacts, and they are taking up nearly half of the space.
There are two ways I have found to "fix" the problem.
1. Using Titanium Backup Pro, be sure to re-integrate any updated apps back into the ROM (that will take their data out of the partition); and
2. Purchase NotEnoughSpace, which enables you to create a partition outside of \data\data and move the bigger space hogs out of it. I run it regularly and keep at least 40 megabytes free in \data\data to avoid the problem.

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hgoldner said:
The "low on space" error comes when the \data\data partition, limited to 150 megabytes, becomes 90% full. Deodexed ROM's tend to take up more space in that partition than odexed ROM's. Sense takes up a considerable amount of space there, as do contacts. For instance, my daughter has thousands of Google and FB contacts, and they are taking up nearly half of the space.
There are two ways I have found to "fix" the problem.
1. Using Titanium Backup Pro, be sure to re-integrate any updated apps back into the ROM (that will take their data out of the partition); and
2. Purchase NotEnoughSpace, which enables you to create a partition outside of \data\data and move the bigger space hogs out of it. I run it regularly and keep at least 40 megabytes free in \data\data to avoid the problem.
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Thanks for the tip and the background knowledge hgoldner! I'll give that a shot.
I've been getting the same warning as the OP for a week or so now...
Rooted DINC, but still on stock rom. "Appears to have" plenty of space available.

There is a fix, and no it is not deleting all your apps to get it to go away.
Basically for some real dumb reason HTC has given the data/data folder 150MB of storage space and when that gets close to full you will not be able to add anymore apps to your phone. So even if you have 5+GB of space left you are stuck.
But there is an app in the market called "NotEnoughSpace" that I was a little leary on trying at first but after getting it and seeing that it works great I wanted to share this with everyone.
I was able to move Google Earth's 16MB to the partition this app created and have it work, and freed up all that space in my data/data folder.
BTW INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE:
1) Create a partition (I made a 1GB one on the phone in emmc)
2) Pick an app taking up a lot of space (like Google Earth) the app will show you how much space each app takes up in the data/data folder so you will learn why you are having an issue.
3) Click to open up the app (Inside NotEnoughSpace of course) and click all the sub directories (most apps have 4-5) and move them ALL to the partition.
That's it. And you can always move everything back if you want. But just note that if you move the app itself OR don't move every sub directory the app wont work after a reboot. Took me a few tries and multiple reboots to figure this all out but now I am good to go and freed up much space.

I had mixed results using NotEnoughSpace while reflashing ROMs and restoring my apps with Titanium. I'm a bit nervous to use it with anything I don't mind a fresh install of.

I used to have this problem all the time but since I've started flashing ROMs it hasn't been an issue. When I was running stock I would just clear the app data for my browser, facebook, and dialer (this is your text messages), usually worked.

Clearing the data for my Dialer App did the trick. Haven't had any space errors since!
Used SMS Backup+ to keep them just in case ;-)

Well, actually that's a lie. It keeps popping up at least once a month. I gotta start flashing some Roms...

I've tried cleaning everything out, but that doesn't work. Is there anyway to fix it without rooting your phone? honestly, I've never done that before, and I'm afraid I'll just trash my phone. Are all HTC phones like this?

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heatwave316 said:
I've tried cleaning everything out, but that doesn't work. Is there anyway to fix it without rooting your phone? honestly, I've never done that before, and I'm afraid I'll just trash my phone. Are all HTC phones like this?
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Without rooting you can delete apps. The lib files and to a lesser extent the data files fill up /data/data partition which has a total size of 149 mb (crazy low). Netflix has a 19.3 mb lib file and and Google Earth uses 16.61 mb. Also syncing facebook can take up a lot of space in data files.
If rooted I like link2sd which allows you to create a symbolic link for the larger files to the SD card. I am using about 70 mb of the /data/data partition only moving a few big files over to SD.

If I root my phone, do I need a new ROM or can I leave Sense UI on my phone? I'd really only being rooting to fix this issue. I'm not interested in playing with other things. I don't have much of a software/programming background, and I honestly don't want to mess with it.
Thanks.

Out of space, even on Gingerbread?

Ok, so my wife has been battling the 'out of space' issue on her droid inc for some time.
Finally, GB comes out for her inc... I think "hey, this was a huge problem, and never really solved, im SURE GB fixed this up"
Flashed the other day, and today she says it showed up again.
What the heck? Come on HTC!!
ALL of her apps are on the SD card, she has it rooted, and uses the stock email app, as well as handcent for txting.
How do i fix this?!?!

Hm, how many apps does she have installed?
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Well before This happened she had about 30-35? now its 20 or so other than the stockers

How large is the sd card?
It may b custom rom time
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Is it me, or have there been a lot of these kinds of problems cropping up? I'm kinda curious what the reason and solution is since I'm probably gonna put my dInc back on Sense sometime.

its the stock 2gb card, but both the card, and her 'sd card' report over 500mb free...

IIWY I'd check directories for usage files and phone dumps that can fill up phone space (700mb) fast — you can't delete the directories (causes some FCs; annoying), but you can delete all the files, then make the directories read-only so they stay empty:
/data/tombstone
/data/system/dropbox
/data/system/usagestats
And def. install/use an app cache cleaner if you haven't already.
There's a program here (search for SD maid) that helps clean up, too. I haven't tried it but I've read about it; looks great.

Clear out or back up and delete old mms messages.
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Trebuchette said:
IIWY I'd check directories for usage files and phone dumps that can fill up phone space (700mb) fast — you can't delete the directories (causes some FCs; annoying), but you can delete all the files, then make the directories read-only so they stay empty:
/data/tombstone
/data/system/dropbox
/data/system/usagestats
And def. install/use an app cache cleaner if you haven't already.
There's a program here (search for SD maid) that helps clean up, too. I haven't tried it but I've read about it; looks great.
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Did this. There was a bunch of stuff, alas, icon is still there were working on cache clearing now, but weve done that before with different apps.

kodakeos said:
Did this. There was a bunch of stuff, alas, icon is still there were working on cache clearing now, but weve done that before with different apps.
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If she's rooted, download NotEnoughSpace. It will give you direct access to the 150 megabyte \data\data partition. Every application and any contacts synced to the Incredible are dumped in there. If less than 10% is free, you'll get a low memory message, and performance will degrade.
NotEnoughSpace lets you relocate stuff out of \data\data and frees up space in that directory.
I also discourage folks from downloading all their Facebook contacts. Completely unnecessary, and all dumped into \data\data anyway.
BTW, with NotEnoughSpace, I recommend moving what can be moved until you get up to about 20% free (i.e. 30megabytes) only to emmc or a NES partition, *not* the cache. You might have to clear the cache and then the info will be missing from the apps.

Late to the party, unrooted GB, gmail & low space issues...

So I've been living in a low-tech bubble and just got the OTA, tried searching for answers on why G-mail no longer syncs and why I get a false low space warning... didn't find anything too helpful in a hurry... Throwing myself at your mercy. TIA
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You mentioned it's a false warning. Are you sure that it is? The partition where your apps and associated data is stored is ludicrously small, 150MB, even though your app manager will show you all of your free internal space. When you go into manage apps and sort by size, what are your 5 largest apps and the space listed for them?

Do you store your contacts on your phone or do they live on Gmail?
Are you syncing FB contact information for you contacts as well?
The reason I ask: My g/f has a HTC Desire and had this issue 2 days after she had the phone, had 2 apps installed from the Market. WTF right?! Her contact storage was over 90 MB itself, which were phone contacts. I took the time to input all of those contacts she had into Gmail, and cleared contact storage. I also rooted her phone.
I disabled FB syncing for her contacts, as that was also contributing to ballooning storage for her contacts. Since doing this, she hasn't had this issue. That phone is plagued with that issue, but you may want to see what apps are taking up a ton of space, clear their caches like previously stated by "Haus".
EDIT: Gmail may not be syncing due to the low space warning, and you won't be able to send/receive texts either. Do have a ton of old texts that you save? You may want to delete some of those as well if you do.

My internal memory lists 500mb unused. I store everything possible on SD. Contacts via gmail. I do sync FB for the image avatars, but with the above mentioned space I can't see how that alone would cause the issue. All of this started after the OTA yesterday... Leads me to believe that there is an issue outside of my storage space, something tied to the update. Found random posts on other forums this AM where MANY others had same 2 issues resulting right after their OTA but most were from Sept. I figured these would be old news, with quick fixes by now... Anyone else seen this?
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dali137 said:
My internal memory lists 500mb unused. I store everything possible on SD. Contacts via gmail. I do sync FB for the image avatars, but with the above mentioned space I can't see how that alone would cause the issue. All of this started after the OTA yesterday... Leads me to believe that there is an issue outside of my storage space, something tied to the update. Found random posts on other forums this AM where MANY others had same 2 issues resulting right after their OTA but most were from Sept. I figured these would be old news, with quick fixes by now... Anyone else seen this?
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Even though it lists 500 MB free, the DInc only has 150 MB total partitioned for apps (which is referring to the /data/data partition). When it gets close to that 150 MB, you'd get that warning.
Are you rooted?
There is a work around for this, but you'd have to be rooted running a ROM like Jermaine's Stock+, and there's a mod which increases the 150 MB /data/data partition to virtually unlimited. See here.

Unrooted (see post title)... so, the act of installing GB zapped up so much room that I am too close to the limit for my phone to function properly? Would GB install into the 150mb space for apps? As it's OS I'd think storage would be elsewhere? Also txting works fine atm.
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Some of the other posts I've found of users with same issues...
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=02216e9b3aed01ad&hl=en

dali137 said:
Unrooted (see post title)... so, the act of installing GB zapped up so much room that I am too close to the limit for my phone to function properly? Would GB install into the 150mb space for apps? As it's OS I'd think storage would be elsewhere? Also txting works fine atm.
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Sorry, my bad, I missed that in the title. What is the size of your Contact Storage?
Menu - Settings - Applications - Manage Applications - All tab at the top - scroll to Contacts Storage. It'll list the size underneath it.
Short of doing a factory reset to see if that fixes things, I'm not sure what to have you try since you are factory stock 2.3 other than contact VZW and/or HTC to see what they say. Since it wasn't happening before, and now it is, they'd either need to fix it or replace your phone.
EDIT: Also, what is the size say for com.htc.socialnetwork.provider?
EDIT 2: Menu - Settings - About phone - Software Information - Build Number, what are the numbers here? The latest OTA should have been 4.08.605.2.

So... I deleted date associated with FB and also ran the tip in the last post on the thread I linked to...
...He then had me dial a code (*#*#CHECKIN#*#*) and said if the update hadn't pushed in 72 hours to call them again. Guess I'll know by Sunday.
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Not sure if that had anything to do with it or not but somewhere along the line the space error went away and gmail starting syncing... I guess I am now just concerned with will happen again the next time I have an update of any kind to apps that can't be stored on SD.
grrr.... guess I'll be looking to jump the incredible ship when my upgrade comes through in a few months.
BTW... my contacts storage reads 14MB but not sure why/how as I have no contacts stored on phone.

dali137 said:
So... I deleted date associated with FB and also ran the tip in the last post on the thread I linked to...
Not sure if that had anything to do with it or not but somewhere along the line the space error went away and gmail starting syncing... I guess I am now just concerned with will happen again the next time I have an update of any kind to apps that can't be stored on SD.
grrr.... guess I'll be looking to jump the incredible ship when my upgrade comes through in a few months.
BTW... my contacts storage reads 14MB but not sure why/how as I have no contacts stored on phone.
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14 MB isn't too bad. If you have no contacts stored on your phone, you could clear that information, and Gmail will just re-sync it, so you wouldn't lose anything or delete contacts. I did see something in a post about going to an HTC link and downloading a "hotfix" file to install for this issue, but these were before this latest OTA that came out, and I couldn't find anything about anyone having success with it as far as this latest OTA is concerned.

I guess I should rephrase... I don't want to have any contacts stored purely on my phone... is there anyway to sort and see?
NM... found it... yeah, listed as 0. will delete. Thanks!

RMarkwald said:
Even though it lists 500 MB free, the DInc only has 150 MB total partitioned for apps (which is referring to the /data/data partition). When it gets close to that 150 MB, you'd get that warning.
Are you rooted?
There is a work around for this, but you'd have to be rooted running a ROM like Jermaine's Stock+, and there's a mod which increases the 150 MB /data/data partition to virtually unlimited. See here.
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I'd missed that mod, that is going to make my wife really happy. Glad you mentioned it.

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I'd missed that mod, that is going to make my wife really happy. Glad you mentioned it.
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Yep, converts /data and /cache to ext4, which speeds things up as far as the file system goes. I'm just using the normal version of this mod, but I highly recommend it!

I guess I should also mention the other annoying issue... battery life is terrible after the OTA... anyone else?

a large portion of us on here have rooted our devices, and cured our phones of these ailments. No more limited data applications thanks to the Ext4 mod, and no terrible battery life thanks to custom kernels to help govern how the battery is utilized.
If you have the resources, I highly recommend rooting your incredible and installing a custom ROM

I just don't have the bandwidth in my life ATM to learn/do anything new... was just looking to see if anyone knew of a unrooted fix...
guess that is too much to hope for though

The unrooted fix is to uninstall applications and clear some caches.
Thats about it AFAIK other than wiping everything or rooting.

my wife has the incredible and up till now she wouldn't let me root her phone and now that she's on 2.3 she wants to root it and dive into the custom rom scene. i tried rooting it with unrEVOked but was unsuccessful even tried showing it a custom clockwork recovrey to flash however I still couldnt figure it out. Any "easy" way to root after going to 2.3

There's a thread, I think in Development about how to do it, looks involved but possible.
It's by Scotty1223.
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tcs.computergeek said:
my wife has the incredible and up till now she wouldn't let me root her phone and now that she's on 2.3 she wants to root it and dive into the custom rom scene. i tried rooting it with unrEVOked but was unsuccessful even tried showing it a custom clockwork recovrey to flash however I still couldnt figure it out. Any "easy" way to root after going to 2.3
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here you go tcs, it's found in the general section of the forum...
root 2.3.4,downgrade,and s-off

Titanium Backup Question

Has anyone tried moving all user apps to the Sdcard to have them run out of the sdcard? I would like to run the apps out of my extsdcard.

I did on another device once... some apps worked others I found need to be on internal.... trial and error I guess.I ended up whipping and starting over. It was about a 5 minute adventure that devastated this noob at the time.... I am still a noob... any how IMHO just leave things be and let them default. Unless you have a storage issue..??... I am not really sure what the reason is for having A2sd. I could see it on older devices that has a lack of internal or maybe if using a class 10 micro SD could speed up some applications.... I guess what is your reason for doing it? It if you do do this any ways make back ups and I would only do one at a time and then test. I remember having issues with widgets. Hope this help or some one with more knowledge than me can chime in.

There used to be a hack for it. It's no longer needed.
Moving apps to the EXT-SD card that aren't meant to be there, is just going to cause you problems and with all the storage this phone has is....well, silly.
Definitely don't move apps that you want to start/run at boot, or apps that have widgets (especially widgets you have on your homescreens)
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