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Aren't we like behind the times with froyo?
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Really?! I never would've thought it.
I guess you'd better get started developing it.
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I was just asking, I'm no developer, but I have seen other devices with it, I apologize if I offended you or interupted your texting
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You obviously missed my point. Your question was akin to telling people standing in the rain that it's raining. We all know our phone is running an outdated OS, that's why the current CM7 port is under way.
and don't worry, there won't be a release after gingerbread in a while because google is making sure that some fragmentation is going to be removed, which will allow manufacturers to catch up to the google release cycle
I'm not so sure.. And while I was interested in getting 2.2, i've been running that since December. While 2.3 is the latest, I don't believe it offers much of an improvement over 2.2, so other than just saying I'm running 2.3, I don't know what the big deal is, maybe someone can enlighten me and make me anxious for 2.3?
With that said, my guess is most people will be happy with 2.3 for all of about a week. Then they will be wanting something else for their pathetic lives.
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I'm not so sure.. And while I was interested in getting 2.2, i've been running that since December. While 2.3 is the latest, I don't believe it offers much of an improvement over 2.2, so other than just saying I'm running 2.3, I don't know what the big deal is, maybe someone can enlighten me and make me anxious for 2.3?
With that said, my guess is most people will be happy with 2.3 for all of about a week. Then they will be wanting something else for their pathetic lives.
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GPU acceleration in certain parts of the OS, improved JIT, better battery, need I say more?
And there wouldn't be anything to ask for if Samsung had anything other than piss poor software.
I thought only the Nexus phones had Gingerbread so far.
If I'm correct, then we're not really behind - the developer phones are just ahead as I'd expect them to be.
If I'm wrong, then I'm an idiot as I expect me to be.
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I thought only the Nexus phones had Gingerbread so far.
If I'm correct, then we're not really behind - the developer phones are just ahead as I'd expect them to be.
If I'm wrong, then I'm an idiot as I expect me to be.
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All of Sony's new Xperia phones have Gbread, though they're only released in Europe, not to mention the Gbread roms leaked for thr Droid 2/X, but so far only the NEXUS's have official Gbread in the U.S.
Oh okay thanks for that. I had no idea what the Xperias were running.
I still don't think we're actually behind. Every mid level and up phone having Gingerbread while we don't...THAT'S behind.
Of course we're not bleeding edge, but we never were.
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Oh okay thanks for that. I had no idea what the Xperias were running.
I still don't think we're actually behind. Every mid level and up phone having Gingerbread while we don't...THAT'S behind.
Of course we're not bleeding edge, but we never were.
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Just the fact that we are even uncertain about Gbread in the future is a problem. Even LG (a no name as far as Android is concerned) has promised a Gbread update for its Optimus 1 (a phone selling for between FREE an $50 on contract)
Gingerbread really
And from samsung too
Be serious
Did you know it took nearly twice the amount of time for samsung to release official gingerbread on our phones than it took google to make it
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Gingerbread really
And from samsung too
Be serious
Did you know it took nearly twice the amount of time for samsung to release official Froyo on our phones than it took google to make it
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My OCD wouldn't let me go without fixing it.
In all fairness, we are not the only smartphone left out in the rain.
From a markting perspective, it sells new phones. This isn't iOS with one device to focus on selling.
If all android phones had the same OS and received updates at the same time, then you would see ads selling us hardware. Most ads point out the operating system as a selling point and this is because there's too much compitition between android devices as well as those of the same manufacturer (think samsung).
It's not fair but then again how are you to convince manufacturers to stop? Google is trying by their recent policy changes, but I don't think we will see a solid standard in android OS for another few years.
The complication is furthered by production of low cost, entry level android devices that don't play well or contain the hardware to push something like GB. You need this demographic since pay as you go appears to be a growing trend.
I am hopeful for a GB release but I know that if we want something bad enough, XDA will likely to figure it out.
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Hummm..
I have builds of GB for both my Epic and EVO.
Not sure where all the fuss over no GB comes from, must be iPhone fans who get Android phones instead, wanting to remain stock for some reason
We've seen lots of complaining in the last couple of days about what is and isn't working in these ports.
It seems GPS may or may not be working correctly, that it may or may not be due to the Leap Second.
WiFi, Bluetooth, volume... if you have these issues, they can mostly be remedied. If not, gratz.
The fact is, these Roms are ports of development previews on a phone slightly but importantly different than yours running an OS that hasn't been released yet.
I was deeply amazed and impressed that some developers had working ports to CDMA the very night it was announced for GSM.
I'd you are running one of these JB ports and you find that it works well enough as a daily driver, consider yourself fortunate and hit the thanks button on the OP, maybe even donate.
If you are trying it out, but find that it lacks the stability or functionality that you require, click the thanks button on the OP anyway because they spent the time to give you something now for free that which you would otherwise have to wait weeks for, or, considering VZW's track record, maybe never.
This is how I'm looking at it- I'm getting to preview the latest update for free before it officially comes available. Just like those lucky bastards at Google I/O, except how much did they pay per ticket?
Thanks, devs, for doing what you do.
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This is how I'm looking at it- I'm getting to preview the latest update for free before it officially comes available. Just like those lucky bastards at Google I/O, except how much did they pay per ticket?
Thanks, devs, for doing what you do.
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They paid $900 per ticket. But they get $1200 or so free of stuff. So they actually received 300 for going to it if you look at it that way.
Nevertheless I'm very pleased with JB. Everything is working beautiful for me. I using daily driver now without any issues. Just the stock JB at that. I'm not much for all the features of Roms. More into kernel tweaks which I do miss from glados kernel. But Franco is doing fine for now.
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They paid $900 per ticket. But they get $1200 or so free of stuff. So they actually received 300 for going to it if you look at it that way.
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Thats why I put going to Google IO one year at least on my bucket list.
i think people are forgetting these roms are from nandroids! lol!
I most definitely appreciate the efforts. I ran the Vicious JB stock port on my VZW Gnex but in the end, I couldn't stick with it because the Verizon framework apps don't work on Jelly Bean yet. This means I couldn't use the My Verizon or NFL Mobile apps, and that's a deal breaker. I understand that you can blame Verizon for requiring the back end framework in order for their branded apps to work, and that's all fine and well, but at the end of the day, I couldn't run them.
Be that as it is, I still appreciate the efforts of those developers to have a working CDMA port the same night. Thanks to all who do what you do. I'm a software developer myself so I know how tedious this crap can be.
Half of the JB "hate" posts are not "my app doesn't work, JB sucks!" but rather "my app doesn't work, I'm posting it in case someone has stumbled upon a fix"
The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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Thanks for such an insightful comment. Any more bright ideas?
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chancy319 said:
Thanks for such an insightful comment. Any more bright ideas?
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No, it succinctly indicates the issue at hand.
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oldblue910 said:
I most definitely appreciate the efforts. I ran the Vicious JB stock port on my VZW Gnex but in the end, I couldn't stick with it because the Verizon framework apps don't work on Jelly Bean yet. This means I couldn't use the My Verizon or NFL Mobile apps, and that's a deal breaker. I understand that you can blame Verizon for requiring the back end framework in order for their branded apps to work, and that's all fine and well, but at the end of the day, I couldn't run them.
Be that as it is, I still appreciate the efforts of those developers to have a working CDMA port the same night. Thanks to all who do what you do. I'm a software developer myself so I know how tedious this crap can be.
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I used My Verizon on JB. You just need to install the VerizonSSO apk in order for it to work...I can upload the file if you need it.
well you know what the say "everything's amazing these days, nobody's happy"
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I used My Verizon on JB. You just need to install the VerizonSSO apk in order for it to work...I can upload the file if you need it.
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Would you mind? I can find download locations out there but I'm not sure what version's needed.
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The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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I hate you for making me google bronies.
jesusice said:
I hate you for making me google bronies.
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Bring on the hate :cyclops:
These aren't "ports" of Jelly Bean roms. They are the real deal made specifically for this chipset and device. And, everything works.
I had to look up bronies as well.... I am sending along my hate alone with jesusice
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These aren't "ports" of Jelly Bean roms. They are the real deal made specifically for this chipset and device. And, everything works.
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That sort of depends. There are some changes that have to be made to a ROM for the GSM model to be 'ported' to the CDMA models. So, it's a 'port' for those phones, because only the GSM developer preview was 'released'.
They do realize other top phones are just getting ice cream sandwich, and we Nexii already have Jelly Beans sweet taste in our mouths?? Ridiculous!
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One of those lucky ones everything is working just fine, still couldn't see any issues, and I flashed my phone on the 28/06
Funny how ICS was the major update but jb is more of a complete experience.
butter and jelly please...
http://www.legitreviews.com/news/14538/
I can't post in developers section, but maybe someone can persuade Dman to focus on 4.1.2?
Just saying.
Not buggy. Why would Google release it if it is...
Plus GNex got it already, My GSIII will have it in a matter of days, GNex threads rated 5 stars...
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Not buggy. Why would Google release it if it is...
Plus GNex got it already, My GSIII will have it in a matter of days, GNex threads rated 5 stars...
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I think OP might be referring to how something like December is missing in some stock apps.
Yeah, Google probably won't patch it or anything. Let's just write the whole thing off.
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Tyfighter said:
Yeah, Google probably won't patch it or anything. Let's just write the whole thing off.
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Ya who cares about December anyways, not like there is a major Holiday associated to it!
Not!!
I am positive Google will patch it, they already stated they were going to.
quoting KenEsq at provided link
4.2 has been a disaster here on our Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7s. If there were any easy way to go back we would in a second. Google should be ashamed of releasing this mess.
1. We had more app crashes in the past three days then we had in the previous 6 months.
2. Battery life is about 75% of what it was on the Galaxy Nexus.
3. There's something wrong with the way the touchscreen on the GNexus is calibrated now. Touch an icon near the edge will initiate a page turn/slide rather than launch an app.
4. Numerous slowdowns, lagging.
5. Missing month of December.
6. Time on the GNex is bizarre. Other apps that also report time aren't in sync with the system time and that seems to be off a great deal.
7. The new lock screen on the Nex7 is a mess. It's slow/laggy. It can take multiple entries of the pin code for it to work and then you may be greeted with a black page. If you have one widget page selected (time) every power on will greet you with a partial view of the blank widget page.
8. Many apps including the Amazon Appstore (they patched it yesterday) lost their ability to have persistent login.
Should you not believe my reports head over to XDA you'll find a slew of additional information. Suffice it to say if you haven't "upgraded to 4.2" yet...DON'T!
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But whatever. Maybe it's all made up.
I love Android too, don't get me wrong.
Nobody is saying that its made up. We're saying that Google is working on the problem and a bugfix is in the works
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Nobody is saying that its made up. We're saying that Google is working on the problem and a bugfix is in the works
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But this isn't just a "missing December", fixing everything should take some time, and for what? What’s so new and shiny about 4.2? I only heard of the photos combination thing, which is nice, but that’s it.
I didn't say it doesn´t have a fix, I was only wondering if it's worth waiting for it/solving it instead of focusing on a nice, complete 4.1, which is already half done.
@Aquethys
I was under the impression Dman had stopped developing his 4.1 ROM to focus on 4.2 (now I realize it’s for The Collective, not the Glide). Since it is not 100% clear whether he will continue working on 4.1 or start a new 4.2 project (for the Glide) when he finishes, I don´t think it is a total waste of time to exchange opinions on this subject beforehand (not that we were his bosses anyway, he may as well take some well-deserved holidays). We are tech guys, “counting our chickens before they hatch” is what we like the most
Ps: I’m not an expert, but the fixes you mentioned sounded more like bypassing rather than solving.
All the stuff mentioned above can be fixed.
1. Calendar. Use another apk.
2. Battery Life. Custom ROMs can take care of this. Lots of ways to manipulate this. Also, it's only been released to source in a matter of days. Give it a couple weeks. C'mon..
3. Calibration. Again, custom ROMs. Some even have calibration options.
4. Lag. Overclock, underclock.
I could go on and on...
This is really pointless arguing over whether or not we should build 4.2. It's like counting our chickens before they hatch.
The Samsung Galaxy S2 is actually listed by Mozilla as a supported device for Firefox OS....
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Firefox_OS_build_prerequisites
... with one important note:
Samsung Galaxy S2
The only model that works is the i9100; no other variants are officially compatible. (i9100P might work, since the only change is a NFC chip added)
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Does this mean our SGH-T989 will not be compatible? Has anyone actually tried Firefox OS with our model?
If someone tried it, there would probably be a thread on it somewhere. About it working on our devices, just take a step back and think, can we run i9000 roms? Our phones and the i9000 are pretty different and I doubt Mozilla would go out of their way to get a t989 and do the work themselves, since our phone isnt International and only sold in a handful or markets. Can it be made to work on our phones? Possibly, with a knowledgeable Dev doing the work, and even then who knows.
The OS as a whole seems to be still in a "beta" form so its not ready yet for the consumer so I doubt anyone would do all the work to port it over to have a half assed OS on their phones, but possibly with time, when the OS is good to go for the market someone will do the leg work to port it over to our phones, but I probably wouldnt hold my breath.
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If someone tried it, there would probably be a thread on it somewhere. About it working on our devices, just take a step back and think, can we run i9000 roms? Our phones and the i9000 are pretty different and I doubt Mozilla would go out of their way to get a t989 and do the work themselves, since our phone isnt International and only sold in a handful or markets. Can it be made to work on our phones? Possibly, with a knowledgeable Dev doing the work, and even then who knows.
The OS as a whole seems to be still in a "beta" form so its not ready yet for the consumer so I doubt anyone would do all the work to port it over to have a half assed OS on their phones, but possibly with time, when the OS is good to go for the market someone will do the leg work to port it over to our phones, but I probably wouldnt hold my breath.
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Still to this day android is still a beta imo
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Does this mean our SGH-T989 will not be compatible?
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The only model that works is the i9100; no other variants are officially compatible.
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not clear enough?
don728871 said:
Still to this day android is still a beta imo
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You could say that. I personally think it was beta back in the Gingerbread days, and ICS was a huge improvement and JB is the topping to the ice cream sandwich lol, imo JB is like rc, its a finished product, it can only get better.
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You could say that. I personally think it was beta back in the Gingerbread days, and ICS was a huge improvement and JB is the topping to the ice cream sandwich lol, imo JB is like rc, its a finished product, it can only get better.
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Then sooo were iOS 1,2 and 3 lol. You guys just say that because even in the 2.x days android was faaaaar lagging behind iOS in both the software AND hardware requirements. Jellybean was the first rendition to properly render GUI elements using the GPU (ICS started it, wasn't complete though) hence the notorious "android lag.". IOS was smooth from the start, powervmr .
That being said, I personally dislike Apple products, go figure
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If someone tried it, there would probably be a thread on it somewhere. About it working on our devices, just take a step back and think, can we run i9000 roms? Our phones and the i9000 are pretty different and I doubt Mozilla would go out of their way to get a t989 and do the work themselves, since our phone isnt International and only sold in a handful or markets. Can it be made to work on our phones? Possibly, with a knowledgeable Dev doing the work, and even then who knows.
The OS as a whole seems to be still in a "beta" form so its not ready yet for the consumer so I doubt anyone would do all the work to port it over to have a half assed OS on their phones, but possibly with time, when the OS is good to go for the market someone will do the leg work to port it over to our phones, but I probably wouldnt hold my breath.
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don728871 said that Android is still a Beta. In a sense, that is true. It's a work in progress that will probably not end. Ever. In that sense, it is still a beta as it also takes in data and user submitted reviews about their issues, likes, dislikes and the such to make it better and better and better.
Now, for Firefox OS, I'd consider it more of a pre-release alpha. They've got the concept down, they've got a working-ish OS for the most part but yes, like you said, it's a half assed ish OS for the most part and probably, nobody would use this as their daily driver until a stable beta (after extensive testing, updates and stuff) is released.
So for now, nothing to expect here. Let's move along shall we?
Wait a sec, let's look at iOS.
Now, yeah, people say it's lag free. True-ish for the most part...
but let's look at it from another perspective. Has iOS 6 changed in any way?
Yeah, I guess in optimization and whatnot but come on, what OS has changed so dramatically?
Evolved in such a way that it's already awesome but it just keeps getting better and better?
That, as we all know, is android. From Cupcake, we've come a long way to Jelly Bean.
That was 4 years ago. Took a while...
Now knowing how other OS's evolved,
it is now safe to assume that Firefox OS isn't going anywhere far for now.
Ooshi said:
don728871 said that Android is still a Beta. In a sense, that is true. It's a work in progress that will probably not end. Ever. In that sense, it is still a beta as it also takes in data and user submitted reviews about their issues, likes, dislikes and the such to make it better and better and better.
Now, for Firefox OS, I'd consider it more of a pre-release alpha. They've got the concept down, they've got a working-ish OS for the most part but yes, like you said, it's a half assed ish OS for the most part and probably, nobody would use this as their daily driver until a stable beta (after extensive testing, updates and stuff) is released.
So for now, nothing to expect here. Let's move along shall we?
Wait a sec, let's look at iOS.
Now, yeah, people say it's lag free. True-ish for the most part...
but let's look at it from another perspective. Has iOS 6 changed in any way?
Yeah, I guess in optimization and whatnot but come on, what OS has changed so dramatically?
Evolved in such a way that it's already awesome but it just keeps getting better and better?
That, as we all know, is android. From Cupcake, we've come a long way to Jelly Bean.
That was 4 years ago. Took a while...
Now knowing how other OS's evolved,
it is now safe to assume that Firefox OS isn't going anywhere far for now.
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Excellent point! Android Evolution has been gradual and drastic ... but still, when it did pick up, it was different. I think if Firefox OS can include a captivating element right from the start, it can make an impact. However, I don't see it being too radically remarkable.
https://www.droid-life.com/2019/09/04/android-10-t-mobile-galaxy-note-10-galaxy-s10/
This sounds to good to be true.
DSinfinite said:
This sounds to good to be true.
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That's what I thought too. Testing phase is generally pretty close to release. But we usually get a beta program first, so who knows.
Wow! If it's released in 2019, I'll be amazed.
I don't think it's to good to be true last i recall google did a new program to work with other phone manufacturer to get the latest update out faster.
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I don't think it's to good to be true last i recall google did a new program to work with other phone manufacturer to get the latest update out faster.
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That was in effect on the Note9 too (Project Treble?). Which, admittedly, the Note9 got Pie faster than the Note8 got Oreo (about two months sooner) but it was still February of the following year (after release). This seems much quicker!
If Samsung pushes out the latest software just weeks or a couple months after Google releases it, I'll be in utter shock. I confirmed it says its in testing on Tmobile site. I'm cautiously excited!
I don't doubt that it's in the testing phase. But that doesn't mean much - products can be in testing for a very long time. We can infer from this that we will (probably) get Android 10. That isn't a surprise. But we can't infer when that will happen.
I would not be so enthusiast about android 10, I read an article here in XDA about how convoluted the file management is
They'll be testing until next year, dont hold you're breathe
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I would not be so enthusiast about android 10, I read an article here in XDA about how convoluted the file management is
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Oh really? What is so weird about it? Do you recall?
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Oh really? What is so weird about it? Do you recall?
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I was wondering that too. This talks about it.
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-storage-access-framework-scoped-storage/
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I was wondering that too. This talks about it.
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-storage-access-framework-scoped-storage/
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Yes, that is the article, suposedly to increase security, but I see it more troublesome than helpful
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I don't doubt that it's in the testing phase. But that doesn't mean much - products can be in testing for a very long time. We can infer from this that we will (probably) get Android 10. That isn't a surprise. But we can't infer when that will happen.
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They'll be testing until next year, dont hold you're breathe
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While testing products can last a very long time, typically when carriers state the next OS update is in the testing phase, that means they are fairly close to release. It means they have the final version and are making sure it works on their network prior to release.
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Yes, that is the article, suposedly to increase security, but I see it more troublesome than helpful
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That is interesting. I'll have to see how it works IRL, but it sounds cumbersome.
I'm not so much excited about the update to Q itself, as I am the anticipation and leaks leading up to it. Honestly the leaked video of Q didn't really show anything groundbreaking, which is fine. Pie works great on this phone.
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While testing products can last a very long time, typically when carriers state the next OS update is in the testing phase, that means they are fairly close to release. It means they have the final version and are making sure it works on their network prior to release.
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^This! I had Tmobile branded phones from the Galaxy S until my Note 10+. The longest I've waited once it went to testing was 6 weeks. Least was 2 weeks.
While I'm skeptical, I believe this isn't fake and maybe it's the next step for Samsung phones. Fingers crossed! (Go Project Treble?!?! )
Available a month after everyone is using the S11.
Once I receive my note10+, first thing I will do is block updates, just in case android 10 has some serious bugs or battery hogging issues, or anything I dont like, after evaluating o confirmation that android 10 indeed is a worthy update, i would update
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-40892
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Once I receive my note10+, first thing I will do is block updates, just in case android 10 has some serious bugs or battery hogging issues, or anything I dont like, after evaluating o confirmation that android 10 indeed is a worthy update, i would update
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How would you do that on a locked 10+??