Here is the scenario. My girlfriend has a HTC Desire, which I found out recently has very limited internal storage when I checked out her phone. We have installed App2SD, and moved every allowable app to her SD card. She has deleted old apps and such, and we have cleaned up a lot of all crap on her phone. I have suggested rooting the phone, as I have done this with my Mesmerize. She is fed up with this phone, and told me last night she wants to buy another phone, and said "I really really wish I could throw this mfer out the fing window! if only I wasn't so dependent on this piece of s! It won't install new apps, and I'm constantly getting messages about being out of memory. I have a SD card that is practically fing empty".
I would like to ease her frustration and save her the money of buying a new phone since she is not eligible for a contract discount with her phone since she has quite a bit of time before renewal. Is there a way to utilize this unused space on her SD card without rooting the phone? Can we partition the SD card to recognize one of the partitions as "internal memory"? Should I just go ahead and try and root this thing for her? Other suggestions?
There's 2 things you can do without root. They will both give a bit more space.
1) upgrade to 2.3 - go to HTCdev.com, kernel source, view downloads. This is an RUU exe to run from a pc and will upgrade to gingerbread. It will wipe the phone though so may want to install mybackup from market. Gingerbread also moves the libs of apps (not all apps have libs) which Froyo did not so when you move to sd, you may claw back a bit more space
2) there is a trick that will change the default install location to sd card. This also allows most apps that previously couldn't be moved to sd, to be moved. Beware, apps that need to run in the background at start up and apps with widgets should not be moved as sd is mounted late at boot and these apps will not work properly.
There is a guide for this in my signature.
Combining these 2 things may help for a while although ultimately root is the way forward. With root, she will never worry about space again. The above is just prolonging the agony
Hope this helps
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Advantages to rooting?
Besides being able to move over any app I please on my rooted phone that I have... What would be the other advantages in terms of space for her Desire?
Well we can change partition layouts, use an a2sd script to link /data/app to /sd-ext or even move the entire /data partition to /sd-ext.
Theres also a root memory faq in my signature. Read that too.
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Hmm... How come you forgot Data2sd? Op: take a look at the screenshots in the supernova thread or my site..
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Supernova Extreme Rom - 450 apps and counting. .
Droidzone said:
Hmm... How come you forgot Data2sd?
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It's there at the back end of a2sd:
http://androidforums.com/desire-all...ions-updated-10th-august-2011-a.html#%9418%94
Haven't amended that section for a long time and the development of it is hard to follow. Feel free to share any suggestions for content though
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Hello guys,
I am very new to HTC phone and i managed to root my htc desire
using this guide nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire
after root you can see in the picture i have App2sd enabled in pictures but my internal phone memory is still going lower. I have couple of gameloft games installed Ashphat 5, RealFootball, Gangster,heavy gunner and hawx and apps like astro, act1, documents to go.
I tried installing Darktremor A2SD version 2.7 but phone kept on restarting after htc logo so i rooted the phone again with nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire guide.
My phone is on orange contract uk. I don't want to brick this phone.
please guide me to the right direction to install right rom with apps2sd+ or apps2sd so that every thing gets installed on sd card instead of phone memory. I have been reading this forum and Modaco forum for couple of days now. I can't get apps2sd to work properly so i can have loads of phone memory.
I have 16gb Sd card class 2 during apps2sd process i made Goldcard with sd card 4gb which came with the phone.
I don't want to brick my phone. what is the safe method?
Please guide me in right direction so i can enjoy desire more.
Sorry if i asked question which were asked before.
Thanks
I'm facing the exact same problem as yours. All the tests shows that app2sd and app2sd+ is working.
But, the internal memory still decreases. Till now, I have no idea how to solve this.
Apparently it's related to the /data/data/ folder still filling, I don't know much more past this point.
There must be another rom which has app2sd+ where application gets installed in to sd card.
I am not sure about if i should boot to some awesome roms posted here. Will try when someone who was in same situaution as me gives me thumb up to install new rom and apps2sd which works
ronaldo9_r9 said:
There must be another rom which has app2sd+ where application gets installed in to sd card.
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As has been previously said, the application does get installed to the SD card. However, any "data" in /data/data is left in internal memory.
I have Copilot installed on my Desire. It takes up 18.50mb in total - 11.23mb for the application and 7.27mb for data. If I used Apps2SD, I should regain the 11.23mb, but the 7.27mb data is still in internal memory.
Regards,
Dave
I understand that some data gets installed on internal phone memory. I also read in these forum people are downloading google earth and co pilot big application and they still have over 100mb data left in internal memory. I haven't installed apps2sd+ i only have apps2sd normal when i followed this guide nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire.
I wanted to know is there any other rom which has apps2sd+ which store majority data in sd but not internal rom.
Which rom do you think is better for newbie like me. Modaco customer R3 which has app2sd+ custom build or any other free rom in htc Desire Android Development thread?
I tired try amythings but not work, my HTC desire with android 2.2 and HBOOT 0.92, my internal memory full, how can move it to SD crad or make internal memory more size?
and if I have to root my phone I dont like to do downgrade.
please I need help, and if u can step by step because Im new here, some word I didnt understand about phones. thanks.
You can't until you root the phone so you've got to wait for unrEVOked 3.2.x to be released. Once rooted you can run a custom ROM with the old A2SD which moves everything to the SD card
Settings applications manage applications click on app then move to SD
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Very few allow it, so the only way of moving everything is to root to a custom ROM allowing A2SD for ALL apps
thanks, so I have to wait until root for 0.92 come out .. do u know when will come out, I hope its easy ..
unrEVOked 3.2.x is in testing and will be out soon. Then it's just a case of run it and plug your phone in...simples!!
I did the this:
h**p://androinica.com/2010/08/03/how-to-install-apps-to-the-sd-card-by-default-on-android-2-2-froyo
(replace ** with tt ; sorry, I couldn't post links)
After that, all new applications installed by default to the SD card. Moreover, I could move most apps already installed to SD card (settings - applications - manage applications - click app - move to SD card).
My Desire is running Android 2.2 and is not rooted or customized (rom)
yes I did that way .. but its not move all app, just 50% or 30% from one app, but its better then before .. thanks
hosammoon said:
yes I did that way .. but its not move all app, just 50% or 30% from one app, but its better then before .. thanks
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Actually, it does move all the app.
What it doesn't do is move dalvik-cache (you need legacy A2SD+ for this) or anything the app puts into /data/data (which no form of A2SD does).
Regards,
Dave
Hi,
I have rooted froyo 2.2 with App2Sd enabled and always move everything that possible to the Sd card. In spite of that, I have only 20Mb free space left (I use Android System info app). I have 8GB 6class samsung Sd card and did the partitions as said in guides.
how can I have more space to install more apps or I stuck and just have to decide what important and what not ?
Thanks.
what App2SD?
The native Froyo one or the App2SD+?
The native Froyo one does not move the whole app. Just take a look in the app listing and you'll see how much space it occupies on the internal RAM and how much it occupies on the SD card. You also can't move every app, e.g. no widgets.
The App2SD+ moves all apps to the SD-Card, including cache. But even then the more apps you install the less internal memory is available. That's because of a process I don't exactly remember Some apps unpack stuff which gets copied to the internal data partition, and I don't talk about the cache. Don't know for sure, but you should find it with the search.
When I check the app2sd ver. It doesn't shows the. + Symbol so I guess that it is a regular one. Can you give me a link to the plus version?
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When I check the app2sd ver. It doesn't shows the. + Symbol so I guess that it is a regular one. Can you give me a link to the plus version?
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?? how shall you check the App2SD Version. You either use the + one, by using an EXT2/3 partition and a proper ROM and not moving the apps manually, it gets done automatically, or you use the Froyo one, by moving each app manually to the SD card in the app settings.
To get APPS2SD+ you need a properly set EXT2/3 partition and then flash a ROM supporting it (like Leedroid if you like a Sense ROM, or DeFrost, Opendesire if you like an AOSP ROM), that's it.
Sorry to post a new thread but I have been searching for a couple of days now and am still confused, so please forgive me if I have missed the obvious answer. (I am currently undergoing chemotherapy for a very treatable form of cancer but the chemo is messing with the logical part of my brain, so again, please forgive a noob/silly/obvious question!)
I have a Desire HD and I am very confused about how to ensure that my apps are installed to my SD card. When I flashed a custom ROM, I am fairly certain that I did not partition the SD card (unless the flashing process does it automatically).
In my searching on this site, I've read somewhere that you no longer need to partition the card. I've also read something about the fact that Gingerbread roms now 'format' the SD card as XFAT4 file system while flashing. Is this correct? If so, does this mean that my apps will all automatically install to the SD card? I keep getting limited space on the current SD card which has more than enough room for my apps. (Hope that makes sense.)
Sorry to be such a noob but I am totally confused and just need to know what on earth to do with the SD card.
Any help would be very much appreciated!! Thanks in advance.
First off we are all hoping you pull through. Get Well.
You do not have to partition your sd card. And doubt there is a custom ROM when flashed that will do it. My card is fat32 with only the primary partition and has always been that way. I have never reformatted my card. If you are flashing a new ROM and you do a complete wipe it might be a good idea to format your card yourself, either through your computer or your phone. Then you can have a fresh clean start. Of course back up all your important info to your pc first.
Your phone by default installs apps to the phone's internal memory. There are some apps that you install that will install to the sd card from the market. I am guessing you are running out of internal memory and not sd card memory though.
There are a few apps that can MOVE most of your apps to the sd card. I don't think there is one that will install them to the sd card by default. They have to be moved there by you. You don't need an app to move your apps as froyo and gingerbread ROMs can do it for you if you have a sense based ROM. Other ROMs may also work this way but I am only familiar with sense based ROMs.
Go to your app drawer > hit "menu" button > select "remove app" > select "On SD card" tab. It will list all your apps that are on the SD card as well as those that can be moved. The ones with a check are already on your SD card. If you want to move one that is not checked just select it and then select "move to sd card". It will move the app then hit the back button. Repeat this process until you have all your apps moved that you wish to move.
If your ROM cannot do this on its own there is a varety of apps on the market that can do this. Just do a search for "app2sd" and you will see the multitude of downloads. Most are free or have free versions.
Again get well.
Thank you soooo very much. Your reply was very helpful. (I didn't want to brick my phone. )
Also, thanks for the well wishes. I am definitely getting better. The prognosis is very good, but chemo isn't much fun and really messes with your brain, to say least. Fortunately, I'm nearly finished. I wouldn't have even mentioned chemo in the first place but I didn't want anyone to think I was either too lazy to search properly or too dimwitted to understand all the information.
Thank you for your good wishes and also for your speedy and helpful reply.
Plus one to that dude. I wish you well in your recovery.
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@Agoattamer: Now THAT is the kind of post I like to see! Didn't have an issue myself, but that gets a "thanks" anyway due to a high level of "SO MUCH WIN."
And to the OP, best wishes to you for a full recovery! FWIW, one of my friends battled aggressive leukemia through most of high school and won. 10 years into remission and going strong. Victory is achievable, always remember that. Keep fighting and never forget: you're not bald, you're just taller than your hair
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Hi All,
I have a HTC desire w/ Android 4.2. One of the BIG problems with this phone is that the ROM only has 512MB and most of the space is token by the OS and other services.
Also many Apps are installed on the ROM and user cannot move them to the SD card.
Recently I was able to move most of my apps from the phone into the SD card (You just need to download the SDK and execute 2 simple steps having the Phone connected to the PC), Let me know if you need deeper details to do so.
Anyway, this is better but not the best solution since other Apps (native Apps) cannot be moved, and looks like that the other Apps that now I can move to the SD card are not completely moved to the DS card ( some data is kept on the ROM)
Does anyone know how to move the Apps totally into the SD card without rooting the phone?
rooting looks like is very hard, I couldn't find the programs that people use to mention to perform the root!
Thanks!
s-off and rooting is the only guaranteed way to get around memory limits.
it's not that hard, just need to slow down and read a lot. there are guides for everything.
i recommend to start here
And after you s-off with the help of the guide eddiehk mentioned above, follow this guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37383522#post37383522
I can't
Algina said:
Hi All,
I have a HTC desire w/ Android 4.2. One of the BIG problems with this phone is that the ROM only has 512MB and most of the space is token by the OS and other services.
Also many Apps are installed on the ROM and user cannot move them to the SD card.
Recently I was able to move most of my apps from the phone into the SD card (You just need to download the SDK and execute 2 simple steps having the Phone connected to the PC), Let me know if you need deeper details to do so.
Anyway, this is better but not the best solution since other Apps (native Apps) cannot be moved, and looks like that the other Apps that now I can move to the SD card are not completely moved to the DS card ( some data is kept on the ROM)
Does anyone know how to move the Apps totally into the SD card without rooting the phone?
rooting looks like is very hard, I couldn't find the programs that people use to mention to perform the root!
Thanks!
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Hi. I tried doing the thing with the sdk tool but I couldn't do it, I think I'll need deeper details.
Thank you very much.
Htc 310, apps to sd
edwin_Oozaru said:
Hi. I tried doing the thing with the sdk tool but I couldn't do it, I think I'll need deeper details.
Thank you very much.
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Hi,
i am new to Android and HTC.
could someone please provide step-by-step instructions (as simple as possible) to transfer existed apps to SD and install new apps directly to SD?
thanks a lot in advance
Itay_HTC said:
Hi,
i am new to Android and HTC.
could someone please provide step-by-step instructions (as simple as possible) to transfer existed apps to SD and install new apps directly to SD?
thanks a lot in advance
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There's no point moving apps to SD because it will fill up anyway.
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Best way to gain more space will be use some ROM without any script.
Create ext partition on SD card and then use CronMod INIT2EXT script.
This way you can have even 1GB of internal storage. Nice and clean.
All you have to remember to obtain SD card with good class, best will be 10.
bl0ndynek said:
Best way to gain more space will be use some ROM without any script.
Create ext partition on SD card and then use CronMod INIT2EXT script.
This way you can have even 1GB of internal storage. Nice and clean.
All you have to remember to obtain SD card with good class, best will be 10.
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But a rom will have a script already no need to change scripts.
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