Sorry to post a new thread but I have been searching for a couple of days now and am still confused, so please forgive me if I have missed the obvious answer. (I am currently undergoing chemotherapy for a very treatable form of cancer but the chemo is messing with the logical part of my brain, so again, please forgive a noob/silly/obvious question!)
I have a Desire HD and I am very confused about how to ensure that my apps are installed to my SD card. When I flashed a custom ROM, I am fairly certain that I did not partition the SD card (unless the flashing process does it automatically).
In my searching on this site, I've read somewhere that you no longer need to partition the card. I've also read something about the fact that Gingerbread roms now 'format' the SD card as XFAT4 file system while flashing. Is this correct? If so, does this mean that my apps will all automatically install to the SD card? I keep getting limited space on the current SD card which has more than enough room for my apps. (Hope that makes sense.)
Sorry to be such a noob but I am totally confused and just need to know what on earth to do with the SD card.
Any help would be very much appreciated!! Thanks in advance.
First off we are all hoping you pull through. Get Well.
You do not have to partition your sd card. And doubt there is a custom ROM when flashed that will do it. My card is fat32 with only the primary partition and has always been that way. I have never reformatted my card. If you are flashing a new ROM and you do a complete wipe it might be a good idea to format your card yourself, either through your computer or your phone. Then you can have a fresh clean start. Of course back up all your important info to your pc first.
Your phone by default installs apps to the phone's internal memory. There are some apps that you install that will install to the sd card from the market. I am guessing you are running out of internal memory and not sd card memory though.
There are a few apps that can MOVE most of your apps to the sd card. I don't think there is one that will install them to the sd card by default. They have to be moved there by you. You don't need an app to move your apps as froyo and gingerbread ROMs can do it for you if you have a sense based ROM. Other ROMs may also work this way but I am only familiar with sense based ROMs.
Go to your app drawer > hit "menu" button > select "remove app" > select "On SD card" tab. It will list all your apps that are on the SD card as well as those that can be moved. The ones with a check are already on your SD card. If you want to move one that is not checked just select it and then select "move to sd card". It will move the app then hit the back button. Repeat this process until you have all your apps moved that you wish to move.
If your ROM cannot do this on its own there is a varety of apps on the market that can do this. Just do a search for "app2sd" and you will see the multitude of downloads. Most are free or have free versions.
Again get well.
Thank you soooo very much. Your reply was very helpful. (I didn't want to brick my phone. )
Also, thanks for the well wishes. I am definitely getting better. The prognosis is very good, but chemo isn't much fun and really messes with your brain, to say least. Fortunately, I'm nearly finished. I wouldn't have even mentioned chemo in the first place but I didn't want anyone to think I was either too lazy to search properly or too dimwitted to understand all the information.
Thank you for your good wishes and also for your speedy and helpful reply.
Plus one to that dude. I wish you well in your recovery.
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And to the OP, best wishes to you for a full recovery! FWIW, one of my friends battled aggressive leukemia through most of high school and won. 10 years into remission and going strong. Victory is achievable, always remember that. Keep fighting and never forget: you're not bald, you're just taller than your hair
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hey everyone..
i recently got my hero an have been upgrading roms back an forth, but each time i wipe to update the rom i lose all my apps.. i was wondering if anyone could please help me get app2sd installed or show me a step by step process for it.. itd help heaps an be greatly appreciated!!
thanks in advance,
brett
I need help for this altso, dont realy understand how this works?
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How to install apps from MARKET to SD card, so we dont have to reinstall them each flashing
you need root! and a custom rom (MCR2.2 or 2.3 are my faves) these have apps2sd built in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552591
p.s your thread should be in Q&A NOT the Dev section
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hi. i've partitioned my sd card as per the instructions on this website. prior to that, i'd installed the modaco rom version 2.2, which is meant to have apps2sd on it.
i thought that after partitioning my sd card my apps would automaticaaly get transferred to the sd card. but that doesn't seem to have happened. how do i go about making that happened. i don't want to reinstall the modaco rom, it should happen already shouldn't it?
also, where exactly is apps2sd on the modaco rom? i can't find it.
try booting your phone without the SD card in....are your apps still there?
apps2sd is built in to the rom, you dont need to run anything. It does it all by itself in the background.
thanks. I'll try that tomorrow. Before I do, just one other query. I thought that after partitioning the sd card, everything on it would get wiped. But the same folders (ther were only 2 before i partitioned it) are still there with the files in them!
which makes me think, did i successfully partition the card? there's no doubt that when i typed 'print' in the adb shell/ gparted after the partitioning process it gave a list of 3 partitions in the sd card. I basically followed the instructions to the letter. I won't be in a position to check again until tomorrow.
Just to be clear before I do something I may or may not regret, to get apps installed on the sd card, I need to partition it first, correct? Once it has been partitioned correctly, any app installations I do, say via the market, should go straight to the sd card? I'm running MCRv2.2.
Yes partition your card first. (FAT first, then EXT3 second)
they usually go to the SD card after a reboot i think.
AFAIK it is a script that is run during startup.
thanks alot for that.. i done a bit more research an have it all sorted.. cheers.. brett
good news. happy to help
as suggested earlier on this thread, i rebooted my phone without the sd card, and sure enough, all my applications/ widgets could not be loaded (except those that were already on the modaco 2.2 rom). rebooting again with the sd card in place, and everything is back to normal.
however, when looking on the sd card with astro file manager, i can't see a list of the applications anywhere. also, after connecting my phone to the computer, and then looking under 'removable disc' on my pc, i can't see the list of apps on my sd card then either.
so i guess what i'm asking is, how do you definitely know that apps2sd has kicked in. i've read on this and other forums that people have checked on their sd card and seen their list of applications. how does one do that? is what i've done above, namely booting my phone without the sd card in place and demonstrating that the downloaded apps don't work, enough proof that apps2sd has worked properly on my phone?
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as suggested earlier on this thread, i rebooted my phone without the sd card, and sure enough, all my applications/ widgets could not be loaded (except those that were already on the modaco 2.2 rom). rebooting again with the sd card in place, and everything is back to normal.
however, when looking on the sd card with astro file manager, i can't see a list of the applications anywhere. also, after connecting my phone to the computer, and then looking under 'removable disc' on my pc, i can't see the list of apps on my sd card then either.
so i guess what i'm asking is, how do you definitely know that apps2sd has kicked in. i've read on this and other forums that people have checked on their sd card and seen their list of applications. how does one do that? is what i've done above, namely booting my phone without the sd card in place and demonstrating that the downloaded apps don't work, enough proof that apps2sd has worked properly on my phone?
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You can't see them in /sdcard because that is your FAT32 partition of the card.
Apps2SD works by mounting an ext3 partition from your card, it is mounted to /system/sd/ normally I think. Have a look there with your filemanager.
The reason for having a separate partition for it is that Android requires the ability to set access rights and ownership to files for it work, and FAT32 does not support this.
if you load a linux live cd (i use ubuntu) and plug in your card reader, or mount your hero, you will see the two partitions (or 3 if you use swap).
Windows can't see ext3 partitions, but linux can, cos its great
yeah i had a look using astro file manager and went into system/sd but nothing is listed there.
anyway, now i have a whole new bizarre problem. most of my apps force close when i try to use them! for example, i open taskiller, and its fine while its running, but as soon as i select something to kill, a message pops up saying it has to force close. same with advanced task manager, shopsavvy, shazam, flixster movies and many others. i've turned my phone off and on, and rebooted a couple of times to no avail. phone calls and internet access still works fine.
all this has started since i tried booting my phone without the sd card. i've taken it out again and tried again, but still same problem. weird!
ok problem above solved! i uninstalled then reinstalled the applications, and then they work.
thanks for all your help guys.
i used to get that on my g1...un-install and re-install always solved it for me too!
happy hero'ing!
I am glad that there is a ROM that support A2SD, but i prefer to run the generic one, and if possible is there a code to make my generic pre-rooted rom A2SD abled?
I answered a similar Question a day or so ago here.... Just general stuff
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4655969&postcount=2
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Hi All,
What is the best way to install marketplace applications to your SD card rather then the internal phone memory.
I've looked around and found that you can adjust the NAND to install a .IMG file on the SD card and use it as the main data store, but id prefer not to do it this way (Windows Mobile gives you a choice to install to internal memory or external card).
Sorry if posting in wrong place.
Thanks all
Tom
XCougar said:
Hi All,
What is the best way to install marketplace applications to your SD card rather then the internal phone memory.
I've looked around and found that you can adjust the NAND to install a .IMG file on the SD card and use it as the main data store, but id prefer not to do it this way (Windows Mobile gives you a choice to install to internal memory or external card).
Sorry if posting in wrong place.
Thanks all
Tom
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didn´t you post the same thing yesterday? If not, then I´m sorry but I think you did. Double posting is not nice...
stephan1 said:
didn´t you post the same thing yesterday? If not, then I´m sorry but I think you did. Double posting is not nice...
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No? =S
I asked how to INSTALL ANDROID, this is not installing Android, this is installing applications to the sd card, internal memory is limited and will run out fast.
No one has tried to do this then?
Easiest way is to just re-install, with data.img in root and select ext2 via img.
This question has been answered a few times in different guides in this forum.
Here's a good one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518
under "Installing Applications Onto SD Card using Ext2"
Hi thanks for replies, yes I know there are guide already, but they are either partitioning the card or using a *.img file.
It seems crazy that (IMO sucky) windows mobile can do this but Android cant.
Is there some reason why Android is unable to do this?
Is it just a development thing, and in time they might change this?
Are other users of "proper" android phones, (e.g tmobile g1) able to just install to memory card or do they hit the same problem?
Thanks,
They have the same problem, all Android versions have the same problem....UNTIL NOW!
Froyo now has the option to move installed apps to the sd back and forth!! The details are at 1:35 of the developer video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZYSVr2Bhc
Very sweet...listening to the community So just wait and sit tight for Froyo on our Kaisers!!
it would still be nice to be find out how they did it and mimic it on other builds
Thanks for replies all, guess ill have to wait for now, I heard someone say there is a program I think called apps2sd but havnt tried it, and I havnt found it yet (I havnt looked that hardly tbh, been too busy and only looked on marketplace).
Thanks again
Hey people, I'm experiencing some problem with moving Apps to my SD card.
I'm quite a lazy bump and writing this topic probably takes more time than redownloading all of my stuff But I'm stubborn and I want to know how this works.
The reason I want to move stuff to my SD card is the fact I ****ed some stuff up and I want to install a stock rom
I was installing the new system update via this GUIDE, thanks fly out to hamdir
Unfortunately, something went wrong (check it out here), because I had preinstalled apps removed, and by-passing the problem it caused didn't work out well...
So now I want to install a stock rom so the preinstalled stuff will be there again, and I will be able to update it properly.
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So, the actual question.
Because I want to have all my applications on my SD card anyway, I started moving it through Manage Applications.
For some applications (apps I surely installed myself), I cant select the ''Move to SD" option, while if they already were on my SD card it would say Move to phone - which it doesnt.
Any idea on why I can't? I maked sure they werent running
Because some apps don't work properly if you run them from t the sd card. You'd be better off looking at an app called titanium backup for what you are trying to do.
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To use titaniumbackup I will need root acces which I mysteriously lost (check the link I gave, hope someone could still assist me there a little..!)
It would seem weird to me that compatability with the SD card is the issue because some of my simple games I can't move either.
For example: Armored Strike. Is there anyone who has this on his phone that wants to check if he is able to move it to SD card?
Thanks
I have a question how do I install apps to SD card?
Why should I do it and what apps?
Are you rooted? I'm pretty sure that you can only move apps to the SD card if your rooted. And it's called Apps2Ext or something like that, you can only use it if your rooted(from what I know atleast.)
Easy.
There is an app in the market called "App 2 sd",this app automatically selects the apps that you can move from the phone over to your sd card. As for why you would want to do this well, for one thing and mainly by doing so you free up valuable space on the phone it self.Do your self a favor & pick up @least a 16gb sd card it makes life a whole lot easier. Hope this helps.
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There is an app in the market called "App 2 sd",this app automatically selects the apps that you can move from the phone over to your sd card. As for why you would want to do this well, for one thing and mainly by doing so you free up valuable space on the phone it self.Do your self a favor & pick up @least a 16gb sd card it makes life a whole lot easier. Hope this helps.
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I was going to say that but isn't that just for rooted phones? Or is Apps2Ext only for rooted phones?
Your G2 has Froyo, which allows apps to sd without being rooted. If the app developer allows it, you can move the apps you choose to the fat32 partition of your sd card.
All you have to do is go to settings>>>applications>>>manage applications>>>click on the app of your choosing, then you will get the option to "Move to SD card"
Once you click on that, it will automatically be moved to the SD card. To confirm, in the manage applications page, you will see "On SD card" on the top right corner. Click on it, and you will see which apps have been moved.
Apps to SD is used basically just to save space. On older phones, like the G1, you could only install about 30 apps before the phone memory started to get full. They made apps2ext to fix this low memory problem once you had a rooted phone. Froyo fixes the need to even root the phone to get apps on the sd card.
Honestly, the G2 has plenty of space for me that I do not need apps to sd. I really only see the need for anyone to utilize this on the vision phones if you plan on having hundreds of apps installed.
Hope this helped.
it is helps a lot thank you. I thought the reason to tho apps to memory card list to make phone run faster
It actually runs slower to have the apps on the sd card. That was the one downfall of apps2ext on the G1, especially when you ran sense roms because a lot of things were run on the ext parition and were dependent on running from the sd card for it to work.
It is better to run them all on the phone memory, if at all possible, IMHO.
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Your G2 has Froyo, which allows apps to sd without being rooted. If the app developer allows it, you can move the apps you choose to the fat32 partition of your sd card.
All you have to do is go to settings>>>applications>>>manage applications>>>click on the app of your choosing, then you will get the option to "Move to SD card"
Once you click on that, it will automatically be moved to the SD card. To confirm, in the manage applications page, you will see "On SD card" on the top right corner. Click on it, and you will see which apps have been moved.
Apps to SD is used basically just to save space. On older phones, like the G1, you could only install about 30 apps before the phone memory started to get full. They made apps2ext to fix this low memory problem once you had a rooted phone. Froyo fixes the need to even root the phone to get apps on the sd card.
Honestly, the G2 has plenty of space for me that I do not need apps to sd. I really only see the need for anyone to utilize this on the vision phones if you plan on having hundreds of apps installed.
Hope this helped.
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This is a BS version of A2SD. /.android-secure won't let you back your apps up the way /system/sd/app and /system/sd/app-private will, and the apps on the FAT32 partition won't start up on boot.
I hope the real A2SD is incorporated on Gingerbread builds.
I will apologize in advance for acting the village idiot but i don't get it.
I have been running the script to swap my card for the internal memory.
I have tried both Clean Rom 5.0 and Jedi x16
Tried both with different Kernels
Same Result, I get it to "Work" in that I see the "internal" memory as my 64gig card
However
All apps are still loading to the actual phone memory.
I am at a complete loss as to how I fix this. ill attempt to anwser some of the questions you may have in order to help me........
I am currently running Clean Rom 5.0 with perseus alpha36
card was formatted
ran script properly............Must have or I would have seen the swap under "storage"
Is there a step im missing? I see under app manager that the apps are still going to the actual phone memory.
I hope that made some level of sense and someone can help me out.
What is your micro Sd format?
Fat32
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i'm sorry bud, but android ICS and higher version are not allowed to move apps from Internal to SD. Google made the changes, but there are ways to do this and i assume you are rooted. Here it is, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550, directory bind, i used it for a while, it works.
I have a working zip for this, it swaps the internal and external memory. You still need it?
I believe folder mount may be of some use to you.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en
heres the thread to it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192122