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Chevron Unlock for $9 coming..

Seems to haven't been posted before. According to this article on wmpoweruser.com the chevron team is planning to release their official unlocking tool for 9$. I consider this very good news.

Reasonable price.

Quite reasonable.

I'm surprised that anyone would have expected it to be more.
The only thing that surprises me is that Microsoft didn't come up with this option in the first place. It seems to me that it could only lead to more developers ultimately signing up for a full license, to gain access to the marketplace.

RoboDad said:
I'm surprised that anyone would have expected it to be more.
The only thing that surprises me is that Microsoft didn't come up with this option in the first place. It seems to me that it could only lead to more developers ultimately signing up for a full license, to gain access to the marketplace.
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I for one expected it to be somewhere between 10 and 20 dollars. So I'm quite surprised. I was even willing to spend up to 50$, which still seems reasonable for me as a developer who doesn't want (or doesn't have the possibility) to publish his apps on the marketplace in a closer future. So spending 99$ every single year just to be able to use my apps on my very own device is way less reasonable then spending 50$ once for a lifetime.
I share your surprise though, but I find it very cool from Microsoft that they approved that.

dkp1977 said:
I share your surprise though, but I find it very cool from Microsoft that they approved that.
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Yep, sometimes they just need a little nudge to do the right thing . And I really do see this as a big win for them (both in potential new developers, and in PR).

Excellent news, for us and Microsoft. Shows that they are listening! For that price theres no real point looking for unofficial unlocks. Wonder tho what restrictions/conditions there will be?
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does this in any way supercede the dev-tool unlock? Just curious since I can get mine free through dreamspark

Aleki said:
does this in any way supercede the dev-tool unlock? Just curious since I can get mine free through dreamspark
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You do not need this if you can already unlock your phone.

Aleki said:
does this in any way supercede the dev-tool unlock? Just curious since I can get mine free through dreamspark
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it is the same as a dev unlock, but doesn't allow for app submission. I don't know about the max number of sideloaded apps, but that can usually be removed.
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yardie.spike said:
Wonder tho what restrictions/conditions there will be?
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Based on what we've been told, there are no restrictions or conditions. This unlock will behave exactly like an official dev unlocked phone. It will not, however, give you a dev account with Microsoft, so (as munkeyphyst pointed out) you won't be able to submit apps to the marketplace.

...do I understand correctly:
- all it is doing is to unlock WP7 NoDo?
- it has nothing to do with the FileManager which was/is also in developement?
- if I unlock and install Mango Beta, do I have to reset to NoDo to update the final version of Mango in the fall?

It's no different than what we had before.
Once Microsoft patches the OS the unlock tool will become useless until they update it after finding another way to unlock it.
All Microsoft is doing is allowing them to release they tool they already had, for a rather hefty price (not really reasonable when you can root an Android Phone for free, or Jailbreak an iPhone for free). It still comes with all the same caveats (i.e. Microsoft will not allow security exploits to sit there just cause this tool exists, they will break the tool on virtually every update and ofc there's always the risk an update can lock your phone back).

FTC said:
...do I understand correctly:
- all it is doing is to unlock WP7 NoDo?
- it has nothing to do with the FileManager which was/is also in developement?
- if I unlock and install Mango Beta, do I have to reset to NoDo to update the final version of Mango in the fall?
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- yes, it is unlocking NODO and every future update, just like an official developer unlock
- nothing, technically, to do with file manager. But s developer unlocked phone is the first steps toward further unlocking/hacking
- if you install the mango beta, you will have to restore to nodo or earlier to get back in the official update que. This has been covered a bazillion times all over the WP7 forums. You can use the backup created by Zune or flash an earlier ROM
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N8ter said:
It's no different than what we had before.
Once Microsoft patches the OS the unlock tool will become useless until they update it after finding another way to unlock it.
All Microsoft is doing is allowing them to release they tool they already had, for a rather hefty price (not really reasonable when you can root an Android Phone for free, or Jailbreak an iPhone for free). It still comes with all the same caveats (i.e. Microsoft will not allow security exploits to sit there just cause this tool exists, they will break the tool on virtually every update and ofc there's always the risk an update can lock your phone back).
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Where are you getting this from? Everything that I have read suggest that this, like the official developer unlock, will carry over regardless of software updates. That is half the point.
It obviously isn't the same tool they used before because that tool has not worked since NoDo came out.

N8ter said:
It's no different than what we had before.
Once Microsoft patches the OS the unlock tool will become useless until they update it after finding another way to unlock it.
All Microsoft is doing is allowing them to release they tool they already had, for a rather hefty price (not really reasonable when you can root an Android Phone for free, or Jailbreak an iPhone for free). It still comes with all the same caveats (i.e. Microsoft will not allow security exploits to sit there just cause this tool exists, they will break the tool on virtually every update and ofc there's always the risk an update can lock your phone back).
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Well it is an offical and safe way to unlock your phone, and 9$ is hardly a heftly price to pay to keep your warrenty and update without having to wait for another exploit. I doubt it's really done by using an exploit, rather just another dev unluck and they're working with MS so it prolly isn't going to break that easily.
But I do wish they would let us have more access, e.g. interop/registry, I'd still be stuck with the silly caller id bug if I hadn't fixed it myself. Even tried contacting HTC support and they were pretty damn useless.

N8ter said:
It's no different than what we had before.
Once Microsoft patches the OS the unlock tool will become useless until they update it after finding another way to unlock it.
All Microsoft is doing is allowing them to release they tool they already had, for a rather hefty price (not really reasonable when you can root an Android Phone for free, or Jailbreak an iPhone for free). It still comes with all the same caveats (i.e. Microsoft will not allow security exploits to sit there just cause this tool exists, they will break the tool on virtually every update and ofc there's always the risk an update can lock your phone back).
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judging by this post, I don't think you understand what the new chevron unlock is...
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someone know when this legal unlocking tool will be available ?
for the 9$ I will buy it , even if I can unlock it for free.

Mango RTM f'ing rocks!

That is all. Who agrees.
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Yep
Hi wetrabbit444
Yes, I agree.
andrew-in-woking

I agree ! Mango Kicks Ass !

I strongly agree

Can't say anything now Still waiting for official update.

Installed it yesterday on my HD2 and it's amazingly fast! I don't have to wait for anything to load (except 3rd-party apps, games and web).
It's safe to say, Windows Phone is now on top! (too bad not on top of marketshare )

Mango sucks, it's not out .

Mango does f'ing rocks, and I keep finding more stuff every day. I can't wait for manufacturer and carrier updates so the update is complete. I want my vvm, hotspot, and my LG apps to work again.

Its AWESOME!!!! that is all....

ioulian said:
I don't have to wait for anything to load (except 3rd-party apps, games and web).
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So, ahh, all the useful stuff then?

I love it so much
I don't want to downgrade when the update gets released just in case the update process gets screwed up again.

I know its going to be massive and awesome and cannot wait for it to be released officially

i'm waiting for the official update, but i'm 100% sure it'll rock

Ugh, I love wp7 but the immaturity of this thread screams android.

z33dev33l said:
Ugh, I love wp7 but the immaturity of this thread screams android.
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Why?
10 Characters

Mango will take WP to the top. There is no better and this is just the start!
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When does it get released? i have beta on my dvp, but currently using BB Os7 and its really nice

ratchetjaw said:
When does it get released? i have beta on my dvp, but currently using BB Os7 and its really nice
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Coming Tuesday.. I am throwing Mango release party this weekend.

I think it sux. After almost a year they manage to implant a custom ringtones, and fail (no custom ringtones for alerts). Guess they need to hire another one for that.
They change volume bar with numbers (wee what a change), but still no separate volume for phone and device.
But I must say, its good for facebook junkies.

UbiMaiden said:
I think it sux. After almost a year they manage to implant a custom ringtones, and fail (no custom ringtones for alerts). Guess they need to hire another one for that.
They change volume bar with numbers (wee what a change), but still no separate volume for phone and device.
But I must say, its good for facebook junkies.
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Wait a minute, you're saying that a whole operating system sucks because of two honestly very minor issues?

Chainfire comments on root and future Android

Chainfire posted a long writeup of what the future holds for root on Android phones including Lollipop. It's an interesting read.
"As stated above, it seems for now that modifications to the kernel package are required to have root, we cannot attain it with only modifications to the system partition.
Combine that with a locked bootloader (and optionally dm-verity) and a device becomes nigh unrootable - exactly as intended by the security guys.
Exploit-based roots are already harder to do thanks to SELinux, and now because of the kernel requirements for persistent root, these exploits will need to be run at every boot. Exploits that make the system unstable (as many do) are thus out as well.
It is now thus more important than ever to buy unlocked devices if you want root."
Edit: Tikerz beat me to it. His post is here. Mods delete if you want.

No real surprise to me. It was only a matter of time before it got locked down to the point of no easy exploit. I'm surprised it took this long, actually.
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man locking bootloaders is one thing.. but root??!?
its not even a poormans route anymore to get a carrier phone over a factory one, you need to choose between functionality or reception..
i wonder if Xposed is responsible for crazy bootloader security moving over to root.
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The lack of root in the foreseeable future really ruined my excitement for this phone I have gotten so used to all the nice features of root (in addition to custom ROMs) like Ti Backup, AdAway, customization, etc. that I do not want to fork out the money for a phone that doesn't feel truly mine.
That said, I'm confident the devs will find a solution. Just like every iPhone has been jailbroken there will be root for the Note 4!

There is a root for the note 4.....just not ours ...as intended...if we want root we bought the wrong device...I got it the day before it came out in the mail and was excited I wasn't aware that it was going to be so neglected...I was at least hoping for a safestrap like the note 3 I had that I don't anymore because it shattered and they gave me this as a replacement...now I can't get root...way too sleezy...they got me!
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I certainly don't see it as 'sleezy', as the devices were always known to be locked. It isnt like AT&T were endorsing root or safe strap in the first place... Or secretly locked it at the last minute without telling anyone.
But opinions on morality aside, it is disappointing that root may take a while. Though I'm still optimistic that it will happen eventually.
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JasonJoel said:
I certainly don't see it as 'sleezy', as the devices were always known to be locked. It isnt like AT&T were endorsing root or safe strap in the first place... Or secretly locked it at the last minute without telling anyone.
But opinions on morality aside, it is disappointing that root may take a while. Though I'm still optimistic that it will happen eventually.
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Do you have a feel for how long it might take? How many phones have there been historically that never made it? Cheers!

funnycreature said:
Do you have a feel for how long it might take? How many phones have there been historically that never made it? Cheers!
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Depends if you have a smart enough person with enough time / incentive.
Thus....the bounty thread we all made to hopefully catch a genius eye or 2

funnycreature said:
Do you have a feel for how long it might take? How many phones have there been historically that never made it? Cheers!
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AT&T Note 3 still does not have an unlocked boot loader. I wouldn't hold out for one on this phone. Also everyone with locked boot loaders will loose root permanently when lollipop rolls out.
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pr0cl1v1ty said:
Depends if you have a smart enough person with enough time / incentive.
Thus....the bounty thread we all made to hopefully catch a genius eye or 2
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I agree with you but "enough time" could be a whole year

mircury said:
It is now thus more important than ever to buy unlocked devices if you want root."
Edit: Tikerz beat me to it. His post is here. Mods delete if you want.
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Yeah, if you can afford it, for the rest of us though, it sounds like we'll be out of luck.

Maybe we need to start looking at hardware hacks, like when chipping a console?

Maybe an insecure boot.img can root this phone.

Focus on the boot loader. If it gets unlocked we will be fine with root.
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ShrekOpher said:
AT&T Note 3 still does not have an unlocked boot loader. I wouldn't hold out for one on this phone. Also everyone with locked boot loaders will loose root permanently when lollipop rolls out.
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Which is why I will be buying the T-Mobile Note 4 and unlocking. They already have root and TWRP.

At the very least, I just want AdAway to be functional.

I may sell my att one when my bb pre-order arrives and buy a T-Mobile version...

mshinall said:
Maybe we need to start looking at hardware hacks, like when chipping a console?
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That would be the way to go if the bootloader will not be unlocked. It.will be like Playstation 3 .

nice having posts like this just right up front.... I come to xda for the modding and mainly rooting of my phones.... att releases a totally locked down note 4 and already people are speaking out about its probably not going to get an unlock like the s5... I give up all hope of seeing a subsidized note 4 and start waiting on a nexus 6 to see if the bootloader is still unlockable.
So within 3 posts and less than 15 minutes I learned abandon the att n4... quick and easy... ty xda :highfive:

fbauto1 said:
I agree with you but "enough time" could be a whole year
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Im coming from the S5 I have faith in the Devs here in the beginning with the S5 seemed like all hope was lost and then out of nowhere root was available. I'm going to enjoy the device and give whoever has the means enough time to do their thing it will happen eventually

Expecting a paid BL unlock from taobao.com

today morning I saw a listing in taobao.com , regarding bl unlock for droid turbo 2 , for 75$ , but soon they removed listing ,if its true then we all will be the happiest people in this world , if any one gets the update related to BL unlock for turbo2 then post here

I remember a time where unlocking the bootloader and gaining root was a fun thing to do for those of us who like to tinker. I remember when devs made awesome ROMs for fun (and donations), back before Cyanogen became mainstream. Now to think we have to pay, especially something like $75 to gain full access to our own device... It is sad. But hey, for $20 I'll do it, but no way am I spending $75 unless I get a whole lot of ROM choices.
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aneeshmbabu said:
today morning I saw a listing in taobao.com , regarding bl unlock for droid turbo 2 , for 75$ , but soon they removed listing ,if its true then we all will be the happiest people in this world , if any one gets the update related to BL unlock for turbo2 then post here
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Did you made an order before they removed it? If so let us know if it worked.

No unfortunately I missed it waiting to re list .. always searching Unlocked turbo2 .. in taobao..

Once you unlock it, which recovery are you going to use?

don't know

dinkoh said:
Once you unlock it, which recovery are you going to use?
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You would use the moto x force recovery

Exleh said:
I remember a time where unlocking the bootloader and gaining root was a fun thing to do for those of us who like to tinker. I remember when devs made awesome ROMs for fun (and donations), back before Cyanogen became mainstream. Now to think we have to pay, especially something like $75 to gain full access to our own device... It is sad. But hey, for $20 I'll do it, but no way am I spending $75 unless I get a whole lot of ROM choices.
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I completely agree $20 or 25 i would pay but not $75!

$75 is steep, but for the control I just may do it. Of course I'd much rather spend $20-25.

Exleh said:
I remember a time where unlocking the bootloader and gaining root was a fun thing to do for those of us who like to tinker. I remember when devs made awesome ROMs for fun (and donations), back before Cyanogen became mainstream. Now to think we have to pay, especially something like $75 to gain full access to our own device... It is sad. But hey, for $20 I'll do it, but no way am I spending $75 unless I get a whole lot of ROM choices.
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Gaining root or unlocking bootloader was much easier before, less number of devices to make rom for, etc. Now is completely opposite. Unlocking bootlader requires a lot of knowledge now and it's understandable that someone wish to monetize it. Cannot find
I would blame vendors or in this case carriers for locking our own devices. But I also understand why. IMO, solution is what Moto and some others do, offer official unlock with losing warranty. Would be nice to keep warranty but nothing is perfect.

something like this happened 2 years ago, it was a chinese motorola worker who unlocked the phones.

Jaocagomez said:
something like this happened 2 years ago, it was a chinese motorola worker who unlocked the phones.
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Yup this is how I got my xt1080m moto maxx unlocked

Jimmy8881 said:
Yup this is how I got my xt1080m moto maxx unlocked
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ME too but it cost 40 bucks 75 is steep and no roms available yet or ever.

Zeljko1234 said:
Gaining root or unlocking bootloader was much easier before, less number of devices to make rom for, etc. Now is completely opposite. Unlocking bootlader requires a lot of knowledge now and it's understandable that someone wish to monetize it. Cannot find
I would blame vendors or in this case carriers for locking our own devices. But I also understand why. IMO, solution is what Moto and some others do, offer official unlock with losing warranty. Would be nice to keep warranty but nothing is perfect.
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That is very true. But I doubt Moto will be up for fighting with Verizon about that.

Jaocagomez said:
something like this happened 2 years ago, it was a chinese motorola worker who unlocked the phones.
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he didn't unlock the phones, he was distributing the unlock codes from a stolen/pirated data base.

I plan to wait until Sunshine has turbo2 support. Might take a while but its only 25...

during a live chat & twitter @jcase told they will not working on it anytime soon .. no support ,

Exleh said:
That is very true. But I doubt Moto will be up for fighting with Verizon about that.
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Never say never
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_be...unlocks_on_verizon_moto_x_2014-news-16006.php

aneeshmbabu said:
during a live chat & twitter @jcase told they will not working on it anytime soon .. no support ,
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Again, please keep our names out of your "mouth". You do not represent us. We don't discuss future support (as we told you over and over when you were asking about droid turbo 1,you kept submitting the same question FOUR times in our support system).
I have all records of your support tickets, and I have records of your chat (Which you ended up getting banned from).
We wont comment on future device support, and we certainly wont give you insight to our private operations.

jcase said:
Again, please keep our names out of your "mouth". You do not represent us. We don't discuss future support (as we told you over and over when you were asking about droid turbo 1,you kept submitting the same question FOUR times in our support system).
I have all records of your support tickets, and I have records of your chat (Which you ended up getting banned from).
We wont comment on future device support, and we certainly wont give you insight to our private operations.
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Amen. Lol

Note 20 Ultra Verizon Unlocking bootloader with paid services

I need help I can't find where to go to get my bootloader unlocked with paid services

dr71399 said:
I need help I can't find where to go to get my bootloader unlocked with paid services
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Check in the XDA Labs app for "Galaxy Bootloader Unlock".

airmaxx23 said:
Check in the XDA Labs app for "Galaxy Bootloader Unlock".
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Wow i just did thanks they want 150 to unlock my bootloader...and then I hear they in Beijing That's a little sketchy If they were here new us... That would be a different story...

dr71399 said:
Wow i just did thanks they want 150 to unlock my bootloader...and then I hear they in Beijing That's a little sketchy If they were here new us... That would be a different story...
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Has anybody had this done? It is tempting if they can actually do it!

Its real. My note is unlocked and rooted.

There's warning lights flashing with this one...
As much as I like (and miss) a rooted device, I would definitely err on the side of caution with this one especially if you use your phone for sensitive and personal things. Even then, with 3 mics and all those cameras the chance of spying is great! Definitely curious if this is real to have someone use network tools to see if indeed the modded devices are leaking things they shouldn't.

Plus 150 bucks is really outrageous! Where are the days you could just flash any rom you like...

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Plus 150 bucks is really outrageous! Where are the days you could just flash any rom you like...
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Since there is currently no other root method $150 isn't too bad really.

airmaxx23 said:
Since there is currently no other root method $150 isn't too bad really.
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We're all entitled to an opinion!

Its not some random person, it actually Samsung token. Device is completely wiped during process to prevent gathering data. Nothing nefarious about it. Been unlocked and rooted for awhile as is a ton of others. A couple reputable developers are involved. But like previous post to each their own.
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butchieboy said:
Its not some random person, it actually Samsung token. Device is completely wiped during process to prevent gathering data. Nothing nefarious about it. Been unlocked and rooted for awhile as is a ton of others. A couple reputable developers are involved. But like previous post to each their own.
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^^^ What he says. It's a man on the inside of the samsung walls doing this.

So just to be clear. You can unlock the bootloader of a US Snapdragon Note 20 Ultra and all it costs is $150? Now this isn't the thing where you can only charge your phone to 80% and other stuff is it?

klbjr said:
So just to be clear. You can unlock the bootloader of a US Snapdragon Note 20 Ultra and all it costs is $150? Now this isn't the thing where you can only charge your phone to 80% and other stuff is it?
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Had my AT&T Phone unlocked, Paid the $150, and since I did the old payment method (wire transfer) Had to wait a few days.
Fully charges, and You can flash TWRP/Root and U/U1 Roms without fear of losing Unlock. The only downside is the Bootloader being unlocked Trips Knox which disables some things like Secure Storage App and Samsung Pay and I believe Samsung Pass. I didn't use those and I have Samsung Pay on my watch which still works.
Also, the process will factory reset your phone like any bootloader unlock procedure.

Am hearing about this 150 dollars to unlock the sm-n986u bootloader, but we're is the link or company that does this?

Try this site: https://www.sampwnd.com/

giggock said:
Try this site: https://www.sampwnd.com/
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This still seems sketchy to me

airmaxx23 said:
Since there is currently no other root method $150 isn't too bad really.
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That's called Ransom!

oneandroidnut said:
This still seems sketchy to me
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to add some context, I now have usa source and do the unlocking myself directly (im in the usa) so no china source is involved in this process any longer.
but of course if you or anyone else has their reservations then its understandable. I wouldnt expect anyone to go through with something they are 100% on, i wouldnt either lol.
after all, my goal isnt to get paid its to offer a legit way to unlock the bl on devices that otherwise cant and of course to drive development on xda which im sure u can see theres more stuff being posted for usa models since this has become possible from twrp to mods to roms etc.

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to add some context, I now have usa source and do the unlocking myself directly (im in the usa) so no china source is involved in this process any longer.
but of course if you or anyone else has their reservations then its understandable. I wouldnt expect anyone to go through with something they are 100% on, i wouldnt either lol.
after all, my goal isnt to get paid its to offer a legit way to unlock the bl on devices that otherwise cant and of course to drive development on xda which im sure u can see theres more stuff being posted for usa models since this has become possible from twrp to mods to roms etc.
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Thats awesome, I remember during my unlock waiting on the source over in China so you being able to directly do it yourself is a time saver and probably a lot easier

elliwigy said:
to add some context, I now have usa source and do the unlocking myself directly (im in the usa) so no china source is involved in this process any longer.
but of course if you or anyone else has their reservations then its understandable. I wouldnt expect anyone to go through with something they are 100% on, i wouldnt either lol.
after all, my goal isnt to get paid its to offer a legit way to unlock the bl on devices that otherwise cant and of course to drive development on xda which im sure u can see theres more stuff being posted for usa models since this has become possible from twrp to mods to roms etc.
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So you can unlock here in the states now? Cheaper then $150 and not in china? PM me if you can still unlock the note 20 ultra!!