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Anyone else getting irritated by HTC?

And there fake release date news for 2.2?

Me, me, me.... damn it HTC
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nah
more irritated with google for not having App2SD functionality in the FIRST android release.
if it wasn't for the bogus 512mb "ROM limit" on installing apps, i wouldnt be awaiting froyo with such baited breath.

Yep been waiting all weekend! We should put a post when someone actually gets the 1st update from htc so we know!
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The weekend is not yet finished. So, I see no reasons to get upset.
And anyway, they might have really started to roll-out, as HTC Germany says.
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Yeah but during weekend is not when its 1 minute over midnight to monday.. it should already been out so people can update whenever they feel like during the weekend.. stop the teasing and just get it out when its so close.

Nope, not at all. You'll get it when you get it. Chill.

wally80 said:
The weekend is not yet finished. So, I see no reasons to get upset.
And anyway, they might have really started to roll-out, as HTC Germany says.
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This. IIRC it was only Germany and NL that "officially" announced it was coming, so nobody else has the right to ***** anyway if it doesnt.

If I wanted to be treated like this I would have bought a iPhone.

Of course I'm not irritated, I have a life!

ix9 said:
nah
more irritated with google for not having App2SD functionality in the FIRST android release.
if it wasn't for the bogus 512mb "ROM limit" on installing apps, i wouldnt be awaiting froyo with such baited breath.
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What limited would that be, and because as far as i'm aware the limit is hardware - the Dell Streak running 1.6 has 2gb available for apps storage.
Regards,
Dave

I really think some people need to step away from the internet and go out and have some fun. If it's here when you get back then you can install; if it's not then not.
Surely an update to your mobile phone can not be the most important thing in your lives...

Not in the least bothered really when it comes, today, tomorrow, next week.
I already have Froyo and its running sweet.

How many stupid Desire users does it take to screw in a lightbulb ?
The be honest I am more irritated by dumb-fu-ks who have more time than brain cells and have to whinge about everything including the firmware release of a completely functional mobile phone. Even worse is the fact that two mouse clicks away is another section of the forum where they could easily download and run about a dozen versions of Android 2.2 hacked/packed/delivered with all the bells and whistles.
So people put the fu-king phone down, chill out, go outside and take a breath of fresh air. You will live longer ....
THE UPDATE WILL COME WHEN IT COMES..... Jumping up and down about it, checking the OTA update on the phone every 2 microseconds and making another 1.4 billion new threads won't make it appear any faster...
Next instalment in the new pointless thread forum - "I fu-ked up my phone when updating the OTA ! Help !!!", "Why won't the HTC OTA work on my Orange/Virgin/crap branded Desire" and my favourite "What's an OTA", oh and another "Anyone got Froyo Update?" (speak of the devil http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741397 )

NutsyUK said:
And there fake release date news for 2.2?
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Nope, not really. Pretty much every company releases dates then has to put it back to some extent, this is nothing new.

fredaroony said:
If I wanted to be treated like this I would have bought a iPhone.
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And your reason? Apple are on time with everything mate. Don't be such a hater lol

If i knew this I would never have bought Desire.

soupratt said:
The be honest I am more irritated by dumb-fu-ks who have more time than brain cells [....]
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you do have a point here. but: why do you get so angry?
you accuse them of having nothing else to do than wait for the froyo release. yet, you fail to convey this in an appropriate manner: In order to make them realize that they are poor souls (whose sole purpose in life is a phone software update), you better tell them in a way they don't perceive as *****ing and hating.
however, the way you get all angry about them raises the suspicion that you yourself have little else to do in your free time. complaining about them doesn't help anyone!

BuroBernd said:
In order to make them realize that they are poor souls (whose sole purpose in life is a phone software update), you better tell them in a way they don't perceive as *****ing and hating.
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Do explain ... I just didn't think I could convey it simply enough without sign language and hand puppets. I really was typing V e r y s l o w l y for those "special" members.
Btw, my tongue is deeply buried in my cheek

mortuus82 said:
Yeah but during weekend is not when its 1 minute over midnight to monday.. it should already been out so people can update whenever they feel like during the weekend.. stop the teasing and just get it out when its so close.
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i beleve they said the "roll out" would START this weekend, that says nothing about anyone actuall getting it this weekend :s do you know what the " roll out " involves? because i dont lol
Nuntius said:
Of course I'm not irritated, I have a life!
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wow someone thats normal i thought i was the only one lol

Wow...the "Now" app is great

The Now app that you can get on Samsung phones is excellent. It's so much better than the HTC Hub. The Now app has a better weather function and is faster and cleaner than the Hub. It has an excellent news function as well. It also has a stocks list.

The best part of the Now app for me was that I could easily remove it If you are not in the US and are not interested in stocks it is worthless. Can't customize it.
Jan Roelof

No live tile was a deal breaker for me.

the HTC hub just released an update that improved speed and stability but at least I don't have to worry about my phone bricking during updates or my updates being withheld/delayed.

My Omnia updated without issue and very early. Also Samsung updated the firmware to fix the updating issues so people need to stop trolling about Samsung devices. They make the best all-around WP7 phones.
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Peew971 said:
My Omnia updated without issue and very early. Also Samsung updated the firmware to fix the updating issues so people need to stop trolling about Samsung devices. They make the best all-around WP7 phones.
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Personally I don't much care for Samsung phones. They tend to be plastic'y and cheaply built. But the "Now" app, which is what this thread is about...aka: not Samsung...does more than my HTC's Hub. I always liked the hub in the past. Now that I've fully realized the "Now" app, I was astounded that some people, I remember way in the past, smack-talked it in favor of the Hub.

I love it. I pretty much just use it for the Stocks, but its a pretty nice app overall. Nice layout, design ect.

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Personally I don't much care for Samsung phones. They tend to be plastic'y and cheaply built.
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Clearly you've never seen an Omnia 7.
But unfortunately, as has been said, the Now app is pretty worthless if you're not in the US.

Thanks for the tip about this app, i am not a big fan of the HTC Hub on my HD7. I will definitely have to give this a try.

Peew971 said:
My Omnia updated without issue and very early. Also Samsung updated the firmware to fix the updating issues so people need to stop trolling about Samsung devices. They make the best all-around WP7 phones.
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Tell that to people with a samsung focus...

Cowsland said:
Tell that to people with a samsung focus...
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Focus = Omnia 7.

PrinceVegeta978 said:
Thanks for the tip about this app, i am not a big fan of the HTC Hub on my HD7. I will definitely have to give this a try.
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It's not a revolutionary app by any means. But it is better than the Hub and the Weather displays much faster. It includes a news screen and stocks screen. The Hub only has Weather and featured apps. What I am impressed by with it is that it provides me with several functions that I can eliminate elsewhere on the main screen of my Focus and it displays faster than the Hub.

I uninstalled my 'Now' app within the first one hour of unboxing.. makes the whole front screen look cheap.. we need more wide tile apps.. plz

dkp1977 said:
Focus = Omnia 7.
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Yeah sure except for people with the hardware rev 1.4 who can't even get an official release of NoDo (come on it' july )and if they have installed it someway at the moment have no idea if they'll ever get mango because the bootloader is fuc*** up

Cowsland said:
Yeah sure except for people with the hardware rev 1.4 who can't even get an official release of NoDo (come on it' july )and if they have installed it someway at the moment have no idea if they'll ever get mango because the bootloader is fuc*** up
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Yeah, I read about that bit of misfortune Samsung decided to perpetrate on unsuspecting buyers. When I bought my Focus, I had no clue there was different revisions of the phone out. When I read about that, I was thankful mine is a 1.3. That type of stuff is another reason I don't warm up to Samsung and why I would choose a different brand if given an alternative.

Cowsland said:
Tell that to people with a samsung focus...
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I've got one and have had ZERO problems with it. it's an awesome phone. My largest gripe is you can accidentally push the back or bing button and jumps you out of a game or app, but you get used to it. The other thing is why did they put the charge jack on the top???!!! When your in the car with the charge cable, it's a s s backwards and very annoying!!!
But like I said, other than that it's a solid phone and the Mango OS I have on it is really really nice...

Cowsland said:
Yeah sure except for people with the hardware rev 1.4 who can't even get an official release of NoDo (come on it' july )and if they have installed it someway at the moment have no idea if they'll ever get mango because the bootloader is fuc*** up
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Whats the easiest way to tell what version I'm running on my Focus? I've had ZERO issues with it.

Jp,it's really great

Cowsland said:
Tell that to people with a samsung focus...
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ahahhaa ikr it makes me mad that the samsung foucs of ALL windows phones is... different ahahaha :/

mikroland said:
The other thing is why did they put the charge jack on the top???!!! When your in the car with the charge cable, it's a s s backwards and very annoying!!!
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Seconded!
Jan Roelof

Mango coming in a week or two!!

Here's the source, finally a word from Microsoft:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2011/09/21/where-s-mango-an-update-on-timing.aspx

question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
and do we get the firmware updates too if there is no need to restore back to nodo?

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question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
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If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.

Awesome news

Just saw the post on twitter, and I must say that I'm pretty exited!
I'm actually gonna wipe my phone before the update. Some may wonder why, and it's simple: My region thingy won't work in Norway before Mango, HAH!
The wait is almost over y'all!

Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.

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Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.
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Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.

Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.

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Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.
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Weeks ago the plan was still to release on September 15th (if you can trust the leaked stuff).

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Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.
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Apples fanfare will make mango a near silent memory... poor timing microsoft, very poor indeed.
Also, verizon is lighting up quite a few around the same time... maybe the LTE iphone is possible after all .?

slimshady322 said:
If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.
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i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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garymoncrieff
@John, I just asked on Twitter and upgrade instructions for those of us running beta will be released when they have them.
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this was in the comments section, so we may have hope

blanket said:
i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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Well than I would downgrade to NoDo using the backup if you can live without Mango for another week or two.
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this was in the comments section, so we may have hope
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Yeah I read that as well but the instructions might just be "downgrade to NoDo using your backup" etc. Time will tell and fortunately it's not that far away.

The only reason they made the announcement is because we now know when Apple will reveal the next iPhone which basically means no living sould will give a damn about Mango. Way to go Microsoft, good luck with that!

I'll believe when I see it. Until then, it's all rumor and speculation.

There should have been a disclaimer that "unless you're on the AT&T network, then you'll need to wait until December or January since Mango is complex and needs to be tested before release."

Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?

Merkie said:
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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Probably because the phone has a radio in it and it's different from carrier to carrier..

Merkie said:
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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It has to do with service compatibility. They make sure the phones perform properly with the various services the carriers provide. Plus, on top of that, they make sure the phone that bares their logo and name performs to their specific standards. Any malfunctioning phone can potentially give the carrier a bad rep.
I know from experience that a phone sold outright...unlocked and from the handset maker...can be buggy as hell. Whereas the exact same phone under the carriers moniker is a sweet and well functioning phone. This doesn't apply to Apple, though. Apple is in full control of any and all updates for the iPhone. But I bet the carriers who carry iPhones are allowed testing before updates are issued.

I'm glad this is more concrete than the fall. Lets see if ATT keeps to their words and updates my damn phone in a week or two.

Not even fall yet and an official announcement. Good job.

Warning regarding using leaked RTM of Mango

As the windows phone blog says here:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_.../09/21/where-s-mango-an-update-on-timing.aspx
Using the leaked firmware is not recommended.
I can attest to this.
The version of mango supplied by MS directly do NOT include drivers for any of the updated hardware features.
For example, I cannot use the digital compass in my Samsung Focus in Mango until Samsung releases their updated firmware including the drivers for it.
Just a heads up!

I guess this would be related why I can't get the HTC DLNA app?
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Which is why I hope we can upgrade from the RTM to the bundle including the firmware. I don't want to have to roll back my, my dad's and my brothers phones, but I guess if I gotta.....

Do you guys understand that when you are updating the devices with leaked OS, there is certain amount of RISK involved and not everything would work unless it's an official update.

We will find out soon... Life is all about risk!

JMackey said:
As the windows phone blog says here:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_.../09/21/where-s-mango-an-update-on-timing.aspx
Using the leaked firmware is not recommended.
I can attest to this.
The version of mango supplied by MS directly do NOT include drivers for any of the updated hardware features.
For example, I cannot use the digital compass in my Samsung Focus in Mango until Samsung releases their updated firmware including the drivers for it.
Just a heads up!
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I've been saying this for months!
However I must say the battery has improved with drivers for mango
really good battery life
I haven't noticed huge differences

I've Mango leaked RTM on my Samsung Omnia 7, without drivers. I think that I'll update my Mango with no-prob to the official one with the specific drivers... *_*

I just don't want to see a bunch of hate for WP7 in the next few months after Mango comes out when some apps don't work as the person used the RTM.

JMackey said:
As the windows phone blog says here:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_.../09/21/where-s-mango-an-update-on-timing.aspx
Using the leaked firmware is not recommended.
I can attest to this.
The version of mango supplied by MS directly do NOT include drivers for any of the updated hardware features.
For example, I cannot use the digital compass in my Samsung Focus in Mango until Samsung releases their updated firmware including the drivers for it.
Just a heads up!
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whatever...not suppri if.. i love my mozart in mango rtm.. not going to update real mango if not able.. smooth n stable.. what else i need more...

Maybe someone can release a 7712 from that you guys can revert to to get official mango. That way you won't lose mango stuff
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Of course, we understand the risk...
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I just don't want to see a bunch of hate for WP7 in the next few months after Mango comes out when some apps don't work as the person used the RTM.
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I don't think you'll see that. Anyone running 7720 - going through the entire procedure - will be OK with rolling back if need be. I don't think any of these posts suggest anyone will be resentful.
That being said, there's no reason we shouldn't hope for or work on finding a workaround to provide an update path...

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I don't think you'll see that. Anyone running 7720 - going through the entire procedure - will be OK with rolling back if need be. I don't think any of these posts suggest anyone will be resentful.
That being said, there's no reason we shouldn't hope for or work on finding a workaround to provide an update path...
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I rolled back from 7720 and now I can't get any updates at all... that's kind of making me want to switch mobile OS.

ryude said:
I rolled back from 7720 and now I can't get any updates at all... that's kind of making me want to switch mobile OS.
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What updates are you expecting?

PG2G said:
What updates are you expecting?
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7008, 7390, etc.

ryude said:
7008, 7390, etc.
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Supposedly they took them all off line in preparation for Mango. Not sure why they'd do it, but I wouldn't worry too much.

PG2G said:
Supposedly they took them all off line in preparation for Mango. Not sure why they'd do it, but I wouldn't worry too much.
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Yeah, I'm more worried about the fact that there is no communication as to what the status is on these updates. They took them down? That's fine, but at least let us know.

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Supposedly they took them all off line in preparation for Mango. Not sure why they'd do it, but I wouldn't worry too much.
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That's correct. All pre-mango updates have been taken down in preparation for the release of Mango.

ryude said:
Yeah, I'm more worried about the fact that there is no communication as to what the status is on these updates. They took them down? That's fine, but at least let us know.
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Doesn't really seem like something worth communicating IMO. Most existing devices out there that were eligible for updates already have them and Mango is coming today so it doesn't really make sense to do an update to 7390 and then again to 7720.

Windows Phone 8 update for every WP7 Device

Don't worry
This could be interesting:
http://www.gadgetbox.msnbc.msn.com/...8-update-reportedly-coming-all-devices-721204

This is old news. He recanted his story and clarified that he was talking about backward compatibility with apps only. At the end of the article there's a link to the redaction.

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Don't worry
This could be interesting:
http://www.gadgetbox.msnbc.msn.com/...8-update-reportedly-coming-all-devices-721204
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Did you happen to read this part of your link?
Update: The Microsoft representative quoted has clarified his remarks; he says he was in fact only referring to app back compatibility, not the new version of the operating system.
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Just a heads up. If Microsoft is going to make an announcement like that... it ain't gonna happen in Portuguese! No offense Portugal... or Brazil.

It's sad that Galaxy S3 and maybe the iPhone 5 (or whatever is called) are probably coming out the next month, and we still have no clue if Windows 8 is going to be able to run on our current devices.
I wanted to get a Lumia, but I might end getting the S3 or an iPhone.

Oh look a Windows Phone 8 concept.
http://i46.tinypic.com/sd1jr7.png

Looks nice! More dragons wouldn't hurt tho :-\
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Isn't there going to be a showing of Apollo next month?
Been using W8 on my PC and I'm definitely coming back if Apollo incorporates the better tiles.
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It's sad that Galaxy S3 and maybe the iPhone 5 (or whatever is called) are probably coming out the next month, and we still have no clue if Windows 8 is going to be able to run on our current devices.
I wanted to get a Lumia, but I might end getting the S3 or an iPhone.
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iPhone?! So because there is some uncertainty about an OS that hasn't come out yet... you are going to get a phone that hasn't come out yet?
Why don't you just wait until either the iphone 5 or WP8 compatibility are confirmed?
The rumor mill is saying October for an iphone 5 release. If that is the case there is a pretty good chance we will have some WP8 compatibility clarity by then.
Anyway I'm on contract so I had to get a phone now. There was no way I was going to wait around 6-8 months on contract for a phone. I have to upgrade ASAP to justify the monthly bill I'm paying.

vetvito said:
Isn't there going to be a showing of Apollo next month?
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There's a Windows Phone developer conference on June 20 / 21, so there's a good chance of that.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...windows-phone-developer-summit-for-june/12631

oh, damn. i read it, but not the update in the end
im sorry about that^^

vetvito said:
Isn't there going to be a showing of Apollo next month?
Been using W8 on my PC and I'm definitely coming back if Apollo incorporates the better tiles.
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Welcome back Kotter

I'm saving money to buy a WP8 new phone...
it was predictable that, older phones would not get the update :/