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Wow...the "Now" app is great

The Now app that you can get on Samsung phones is excellent. It's so much better than the HTC Hub. The Now app has a better weather function and is faster and cleaner than the Hub. It has an excellent news function as well. It also has a stocks list.

The best part of the Now app for me was that I could easily remove it If you are not in the US and are not interested in stocks it is worthless. Can't customize it.
Jan Roelof

No live tile was a deal breaker for me.

the HTC hub just released an update that improved speed and stability but at least I don't have to worry about my phone bricking during updates or my updates being withheld/delayed.

My Omnia updated without issue and very early. Also Samsung updated the firmware to fix the updating issues so people need to stop trolling about Samsung devices. They make the best all-around WP7 phones.
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Peew971 said:
My Omnia updated without issue and very early. Also Samsung updated the firmware to fix the updating issues so people need to stop trolling about Samsung devices. They make the best all-around WP7 phones.
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Personally I don't much care for Samsung phones. They tend to be plastic'y and cheaply built. But the "Now" app, which is what this thread is about...aka: not Samsung...does more than my HTC's Hub. I always liked the hub in the past. Now that I've fully realized the "Now" app, I was astounded that some people, I remember way in the past, smack-talked it in favor of the Hub.

I love it. I pretty much just use it for the Stocks, but its a pretty nice app overall. Nice layout, design ect.

MartyLK said:
Personally I don't much care for Samsung phones. They tend to be plastic'y and cheaply built.
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Clearly you've never seen an Omnia 7.
But unfortunately, as has been said, the Now app is pretty worthless if you're not in the US.

Thanks for the tip about this app, i am not a big fan of the HTC Hub on my HD7. I will definitely have to give this a try.

Peew971 said:
My Omnia updated without issue and very early. Also Samsung updated the firmware to fix the updating issues so people need to stop trolling about Samsung devices. They make the best all-around WP7 phones.
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Tell that to people with a samsung focus...

Cowsland said:
Tell that to people with a samsung focus...
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Focus = Omnia 7.

PrinceVegeta978 said:
Thanks for the tip about this app, i am not a big fan of the HTC Hub on my HD7. I will definitely have to give this a try.
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It's not a revolutionary app by any means. But it is better than the Hub and the Weather displays much faster. It includes a news screen and stocks screen. The Hub only has Weather and featured apps. What I am impressed by with it is that it provides me with several functions that I can eliminate elsewhere on the main screen of my Focus and it displays faster than the Hub.

I uninstalled my 'Now' app within the first one hour of unboxing.. makes the whole front screen look cheap.. we need more wide tile apps.. plz

dkp1977 said:
Focus = Omnia 7.
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Yeah sure except for people with the hardware rev 1.4 who can't even get an official release of NoDo (come on it' july )and if they have installed it someway at the moment have no idea if they'll ever get mango because the bootloader is fuc*** up

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Yeah sure except for people with the hardware rev 1.4 who can't even get an official release of NoDo (come on it' july )and if they have installed it someway at the moment have no idea if they'll ever get mango because the bootloader is fuc*** up
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Yeah, I read about that bit of misfortune Samsung decided to perpetrate on unsuspecting buyers. When I bought my Focus, I had no clue there was different revisions of the phone out. When I read about that, I was thankful mine is a 1.3. That type of stuff is another reason I don't warm up to Samsung and why I would choose a different brand if given an alternative.

Cowsland said:
Tell that to people with a samsung focus...
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I've got one and have had ZERO problems with it. it's an awesome phone. My largest gripe is you can accidentally push the back or bing button and jumps you out of a game or app, but you get used to it. The other thing is why did they put the charge jack on the top???!!! When your in the car with the charge cable, it's a s s backwards and very annoying!!!
But like I said, other than that it's a solid phone and the Mango OS I have on it is really really nice...

Cowsland said:
Yeah sure except for people with the hardware rev 1.4 who can't even get an official release of NoDo (come on it' july )and if they have installed it someway at the moment have no idea if they'll ever get mango because the bootloader is fuc*** up
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Whats the easiest way to tell what version I'm running on my Focus? I've had ZERO issues with it.

Jp,it's really great

Cowsland said:
Tell that to people with a samsung focus...
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ahahhaa ikr it makes me mad that the samsung foucs of ALL windows phones is... different ahahaha :/

mikroland said:
The other thing is why did they put the charge jack on the top???!!! When your in the car with the charge cable, it's a s s backwards and very annoying!!!
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Seconded!
Jan Roelof

Mango RTM f'ing rocks!

That is all. Who agrees.
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Yep
Hi wetrabbit444
Yes, I agree.
andrew-in-woking

I agree ! Mango Kicks Ass !

I strongly agree

Can't say anything now Still waiting for official update.

Installed it yesterday on my HD2 and it's amazingly fast! I don't have to wait for anything to load (except 3rd-party apps, games and web).
It's safe to say, Windows Phone is now on top! (too bad not on top of marketshare )

Mango sucks, it's not out .

Mango does f'ing rocks, and I keep finding more stuff every day. I can't wait for manufacturer and carrier updates so the update is complete. I want my vvm, hotspot, and my LG apps to work again.

Its AWESOME!!!! that is all....

ioulian said:
I don't have to wait for anything to load (except 3rd-party apps, games and web).
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So, ahh, all the useful stuff then?

I love it so much
I don't want to downgrade when the update gets released just in case the update process gets screwed up again.

I know its going to be massive and awesome and cannot wait for it to be released officially

i'm waiting for the official update, but i'm 100% sure it'll rock

Ugh, I love wp7 but the immaturity of this thread screams android.

z33dev33l said:
Ugh, I love wp7 but the immaturity of this thread screams android.
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Why?
10 Characters

Mango will take WP to the top. There is no better and this is just the start!
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When does it get released? i have beta on my dvp, but currently using BB Os7 and its really nice

ratchetjaw said:
When does it get released? i have beta on my dvp, but currently using BB Os7 and its really nice
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Coming Tuesday.. I am throwing Mango release party this weekend.

I think it sux. After almost a year they manage to implant a custom ringtones, and fail (no custom ringtones for alerts). Guess they need to hire another one for that.
They change volume bar with numbers (wee what a change), but still no separate volume for phone and device.
But I must say, its good for facebook junkies.

UbiMaiden said:
I think it sux. After almost a year they manage to implant a custom ringtones, and fail (no custom ringtones for alerts). Guess they need to hire another one for that.
They change volume bar with numbers (wee what a change), but still no separate volume for phone and device.
But I must say, its good for facebook junkies.
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Wait a minute, you're saying that a whole operating system sucks because of two honestly very minor issues?

Mango coming in a week or two!!

Here's the source, finally a word from Microsoft:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2011/09/21/where-s-mango-an-update-on-timing.aspx

question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
and do we get the firmware updates too if there is no need to restore back to nodo?

blanket said:
question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
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If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.

Awesome news

Just saw the post on twitter, and I must say that I'm pretty exited!
I'm actually gonna wipe my phone before the update. Some may wonder why, and it's simple: My region thingy won't work in Norway before Mango, HAH!
The wait is almost over y'all!

Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.

DJRedLine said:
Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.
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Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.

Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.

sure haven't said:
Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.
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Weeks ago the plan was still to release on September 15th (if you can trust the leaked stuff).

slimshady322 said:
Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.
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Apples fanfare will make mango a near silent memory... poor timing microsoft, very poor indeed.
Also, verizon is lighting up quite a few around the same time... maybe the LTE iphone is possible after all .?

slimshady322 said:
If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.
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i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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garymoncrieff
@John, I just asked on Twitter and upgrade instructions for those of us running beta will be released when they have them.
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this was in the comments section, so we may have hope

blanket said:
i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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Well than I would downgrade to NoDo using the backup if you can live without Mango for another week or two.
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this was in the comments section, so we may have hope
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Yeah I read that as well but the instructions might just be "downgrade to NoDo using your backup" etc. Time will tell and fortunately it's not that far away.

The only reason they made the announcement is because we now know when Apple will reveal the next iPhone which basically means no living sould will give a damn about Mango. Way to go Microsoft, good luck with that!

I'll believe when I see it. Until then, it's all rumor and speculation.

There should have been a disclaimer that "unless you're on the AT&T network, then you'll need to wait until December or January since Mango is complex and needs to be tested before release."

Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?

Merkie said:
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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Probably because the phone has a radio in it and it's different from carrier to carrier..

Merkie said:
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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It has to do with service compatibility. They make sure the phones perform properly with the various services the carriers provide. Plus, on top of that, they make sure the phone that bares their logo and name performs to their specific standards. Any malfunctioning phone can potentially give the carrier a bad rep.
I know from experience that a phone sold outright...unlocked and from the handset maker...can be buggy as hell. Whereas the exact same phone under the carriers moniker is a sweet and well functioning phone. This doesn't apply to Apple, though. Apple is in full control of any and all updates for the iPhone. But I bet the carriers who carry iPhones are allowed testing before updates are issued.

I'm glad this is more concrete than the fall. Lets see if ATT keeps to their words and updates my damn phone in a week or two.

Not even fall yet and an official announcement. Good job.

[OTA info] Volume Bug Fix

Samsung are beginning to roll out the fix for the volume bug. https://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/140471495288823808

Any more info, like a date, when to expect the update?
Oh, wait, it's Samsung, so it will arrive "anytime soon", which means "by the end of November", which actually means "maybe November, but definitely in December"...

Nice, I should have my Nexus by Tues or Wednesday then.

Interesting it's a radio update, not Android or anything lower level.

How will the fix be delivered? direct to the handset via update or USB?

Too bad they don't seem to have a link to it.

rob6raham said:
How will the fix be delivered? direct to the handset via update or USB?
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OTA to the handset.
Once someone gets the OTA - they can pull it from a logcat and get the URL - then anyone can download apply without waiting for their IMEI to be flagged to receive the update.

Hm, but this doesn't seem to be an official Twitter account / Website of Samsung.

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Hm, but this doesn't seem to be an official Twitter account / Website of Samsung.
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It isn't. But they have good sources.

Chirality said:
Interesting it's a radio update, not Android or anything lower level.
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How do you know it's radio only update?

omrij said:
How do you know it's radio only update?
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because it's referencing an increment to the baseband version, and not mentioning anything about an Android version number.
that being said, we don't know what's going to happen yet...
let's see.

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How do you know it's radio only update?
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Because the name of the update is the name of the baseband,not Android.

I am pretty sure it will be more than just the radio, P3Droid tweeted on the 22nd about ICL52 and Adnroid 4.2 with a new baseband.... When though Samsung??!!

We were told the ICL53b update contained the fix, no mention of the baseband version. I can try to get more info but its a holiday weekend here so no idea if i will be able to reach him.

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I am pretty sure it will be more than just the radio, P3Droid tweeted on the 22nd about ICL52 and Adnroid 4.2 with a new baseband.... When though Samsung??!!
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surely its google, not samsung... as a Nexus it is pure android so will come straight from Google and not via samsung

Whyt_e said:
surely its google, not samsung... as a Nexus it is pure android so will come straight from Google and not via samsung
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As has been proven the bug occurs when the phone is in the bootloader, so it's nothing to do with Android.
The patch needs to be at a hardware level, so it will be firmware update. That comes from Samsung, not Google.

It might be the case that the patch for this particular problem was developed by Samsung but it'll still be released by Google not Samsung. So we are waiting for both but ultimately it'll be Googles decision when to push it. At least that's my understanding of the update process of a Nexus phone.

some people in this thread need to remember a few things:
1) Nexus handsets are made as a collaboration between Google and whoever the chosen manufacturer is.
2) Google push all unbranded Nexus updates, not the manufacturer.
in the case of this update, it will likely be pushed as an update to Android anyway - I have never seen a baseband change come through to an Android handset without it being with an incremental update to Android.

I've got to the stage when I don't care who does what - all I want is an update so that the phone is usable. I suspect many early adopters think the same.

I agree mate. I don't care if apple make the fix. For me this weekend staying in London my phone was unusable in certain parts. Grrrrrrrr
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Good news! Official Windows phone 7.8 update arrived to all windows phone 7.5 owners.

Good news! Official Windows phone 7.8 update arrived to all windows phone 7.5 owners. Dont need to wait for carrier notification, update directly from microsoft.
Check the below link to find How to update Windows phone 7.5 to 7.8?
You need to install two minor 7.5 update and finally 7.8 update. The articles detailed with screenshot.
http://www.negablog.com/2013/02/windows-phone-78-arrived-from-microsoft.html

UPD via Zune this is good news ? Are you kidding, read this: http://www.wp7roottools.com/index.p...-live-tiles-drain-wp7-8-phones-battery-and-3g

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UPD via Zune this is good news ? Are you kidding, read this: http://www.wp7roottools.com/index.p...-live-tiles-drain-wp7-8-phones-battery-and-3g
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Got official update from 7.5 to 7.8 buddy. Its not still confirmed battery draining problem. Install and check out.

Got it yesterday via Zune for my HTC Radar....less then impressed.
Updated and Confirmed
Not as many colours as I would like, and basically only the new start screen.

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UPD via Zune this is good news ? Are you kidding, read this: http://www.wp7roottools.com/index.p...-live-tiles-drain-wp7-8-phones-battery-and-3g
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Thats not directly a problem with 7.8 it is a problem how the app was coded. the developer of this particular app has done something wrong... his site has no valid url for a live tile so the OS searches again and again, because it can happen that the live tile is not found in the first attempt but this is the fault of the developer which has not fixed this issue where to find the new live tile picture...

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Thats not directly a problem with 7.8 it is a problem how the app was coded. the developer of this particular app has done something wrong... his site has no valid url for a live tile so the OS searches again and again, because it can happen that the live tile is not found in the first attempt but this is the fault of the developer which has not fixed this issue where to find the new live tile picture...
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Yup. Explained well.

Nothing found for my Arrive from Sprint or Titan II from ATT, both US phones.

ctiger said:
Nothing found for my Arrive from Sprint or Titan II from ATT, both US phones.
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got for titan?

ctiger said:
Nothing found for my Arrive from Sprint or Titan II from ATT, both US phones.
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That is because the official 7.8 update did not arrive to all WP owners...
Anyone on a US carrier -except for AT&T L900 users have not received the update ............................ yet.
T-Mobile cancelled the update for the 710...and probably for the Radar and HD7...
It is highly probable that AT&T or any other US carrier...will do the same

Got 7.8 last night!!
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Good news! Official Windows phone 7.8 update arrived to all windows phone 7.5 owners. Dont need to wait for carrier notification, update directly from microsoft.
Check the below link to find How to update Windows phone 7.5 to 7.8?
You need to install two minor 7.5 update and finally 7.8 update. The articles detailed with screenshot.
http://www.negablog.com/2013/02/windows-phone-78-arrived-from-microsoft.html
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I had to do the Zune update cheat trick 4 times last night but finally ended up with 7.8 on my HTC Win 7 Pro.. Nice to have the aditional colors and resize of tiles. Wish it had bypassed the carrier and turned on ICS but oh well.

Custom ROMS
Does anyone know if this update works with a phone that currently has custom 7.8 on? I am running the deepshining 7.8ROM and is there much point in getting the official update? Does it fix the delay in opening apps?
Thanks

My brother has nokia 710, when i try to upg via zune it says its already up to date. It has 7.5v
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How does one do the zune update cheat trick??

Nothing here.... HTC Trophy unbranded. I Never buy WP And HTC Again!

at&t Windows Phone 7.8 update being deployed
IL200 said:
Nothing here.... HTC Trophy unbranded. I Never buy WP And HTC Again!
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Still no update? I have an at&t Lumia 900 and got a message today that an update is available. I think there was some issue with the update earlier this year and they halted the roll out so they could fix something. Once the fix was made I guess they started rolling out the update slowly. I actually called at&t a couple of weeks ago and the guy I spoke with was clueless about Windows Phone 7.8. He kept swearing my phone was up to day. Then he put me on hold and spoke to several other people who were about as clueless. I really don't understand why people work in tech support if they have no interest in the device they are supporting.

Got It, But No Bluetooth Share
I got the update when plugging into Zune. No problems..However, still no availabilty of Nokia Bluetooth Share in the Marketplace. Marketplace still says not available for my device. I hate to say this, being a long time Windows Phone user, but this Bluetooth Share fiasco is a joke. Can no one get their act together any longer? I realize this is a Microsoft/Nokia issue but it is laughable now. Bluetooth Share continues to be hyped on the Nokia site as a benefit of 7.8. Well then, where is it?????????????????????????

I updated via Zune my ZTE Tania easy, in 15-20 minutes. New WP 7.8 is great, i like it.:highfive: