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Mango RTM f'ing rocks!

That is all. Who agrees.
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Hi wetrabbit444
Yes, I agree.
andrew-in-woking

I agree ! Mango Kicks Ass !

I strongly agree

Can't say anything now Still waiting for official update.

Installed it yesterday on my HD2 and it's amazingly fast! I don't have to wait for anything to load (except 3rd-party apps, games and web).
It's safe to say, Windows Phone is now on top! (too bad not on top of marketshare )

Mango sucks, it's not out .

Mango does f'ing rocks, and I keep finding more stuff every day. I can't wait for manufacturer and carrier updates so the update is complete. I want my vvm, hotspot, and my LG apps to work again.

Its AWESOME!!!! that is all....

ioulian said:
I don't have to wait for anything to load (except 3rd-party apps, games and web).
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So, ahh, all the useful stuff then?

I love it so much
I don't want to downgrade when the update gets released just in case the update process gets screwed up again.

I know its going to be massive and awesome and cannot wait for it to be released officially

i'm waiting for the official update, but i'm 100% sure it'll rock

Ugh, I love wp7 but the immaturity of this thread screams android.

z33dev33l said:
Ugh, I love wp7 but the immaturity of this thread screams android.
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Why?
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Mango will take WP to the top. There is no better and this is just the start!
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When does it get released? i have beta on my dvp, but currently using BB Os7 and its really nice

ratchetjaw said:
When does it get released? i have beta on my dvp, but currently using BB Os7 and its really nice
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Coming Tuesday.. I am throwing Mango release party this weekend.

I think it sux. After almost a year they manage to implant a custom ringtones, and fail (no custom ringtones for alerts). Guess they need to hire another one for that.
They change volume bar with numbers (wee what a change), but still no separate volume for phone and device.
But I must say, its good for facebook junkies.

UbiMaiden said:
I think it sux. After almost a year they manage to implant a custom ringtones, and fail (no custom ringtones for alerts). Guess they need to hire another one for that.
They change volume bar with numbers (wee what a change), but still no separate volume for phone and device.
But I must say, its good for facebook junkies.
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Wait a minute, you're saying that a whole operating system sucks because of two honestly very minor issues?

ICS + SGSIIET4G = WANTt!!

After watching the presentation on ICS, I want ICS on this phone, more so in hopes that it will fix the issues we are having with "Android OS" which are causing extremely high CPU usage stats. The problem is, there is going to be a layer of TouchWiz on top of ICS, so here is to hoping our awesome developers can give us an awesome ROM(s), and we can get CM soon!
Plus the new voice input seems really good (only reason it messed up in the presentation in the beginning was because he started talking too early).
Not really interested in the Nexus Prime (Galaxy Nexus), but looking forward to how well our cameras operate with that new interface. I believe once we get ICS on our phones, ours will be a much better phone than the Nexus (other the instant updates on Nexus, of course).

AOSP would be nice. I wonder if ICS has rotational transition animation. Even though it seems like a useless feature when it comes to functionality. I want it!

cdszoke said:
AOSP would be nice. I wonder if ICS has rotational transition animation. Even though it seems like a useless feature when it comes to functionality. I want it!
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Yeah, I don't think that manufacturers need to put a GUI over it anymore. I hope it comes totally stock android. That would also speed up the time it takes them to update the phone.

speedy0339 said:
Yeah, I don't think that manufacturers need to put a GUI over it anymore. I hope it comes totally stock android. That would also speed up the time it takes them to update the phone.
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I know we have many different hardware configurations out there in the Android world and some people argue that's this fragmentation is the main reason we wait so long for updates. I believe the major reason is the many different skins or gui these manufacturers either plague or bless us with is causing our update woes.

speedy0339 said:
Yeah, I don't think that manufacturers need to put a GUI over it anymore. I hope it comes totally stock android. That would also speed up the time it takes them to update the phone.
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Or...give us the option of switching from TW to AOSP in the settings...would be nice...

If Google and Samsung announced all this at the original date iphone sales would have went down. ICS sure looks great.

One4mNoWhere said:
If Google and Samsung announced all this at the original date iphone sales would have went down. ICS sure looks great.
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And imagine if they had someone like Steve Jobs present for them. People might actually realize how good Android is. We get it but the average user doesn't and they need to be told this is the best thing around because we are telling you so.

Ditching my Samsung Focus for Galaxy Nexus

Hello there,
I have been following and reading these forums for years but today I finally decided to post something. After reading about the ban on Nexus devices, I went online today very early and bought my own. I'm frankly very tired of the way Microsoft has been dealing with its WPhone platform and after reading what Jelly Bean brings to the table for Android, I'm hooked up!
As this is going to be my first Android phone I would appreciate any comments or insights you guys could provide me with.
Thanks for your time!

barroco said:
As this is going to be my first Android phone. I would appreciate any comments or insights you guys could provide me with.
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As a brand new android / nexus owner the main thing you need to know is that Apple is the devil and to hate everything about them

I'm also in the same boat. I'm not sure whether to get either the HTC One X, LG Optimus 4X HD or the Galaxy Nexus. I dont care about updates as I use custom roms. Or shall I wait for a quad core Nexus phone?
P.s. the phones in my signature are review devices so I have tried the Nexus and One X... just need insight
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When you first get the phone. Unlock the bootloader (search the forums on how to do it). After that, enjoy the phone and look around the Play Store for apps that you may like. There are a lot of apps to look around from.
The reasoning behind unlocking the bootloader (first thing) is because if you DO decide to root and flash custom ROMs after you already set your phone up. You can back up your apps / data whereas if you want to root/flash... you'll have to unlock bootloader (which will wipe everything).

ap3604 said:
As a brand new android / nexus owner the main thing you need to know is that Apple is the devil and to hate everything about them
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Thanks!
I was really pissed yesterday night after knowing about the injunction on the Galaxy Nexus phones!
Also, when it comes to my previous experience with MS/Windows Phone 7 this is what I have to say:
ATT and their update schedule sucks. Do yourself a favor and never buy a phone from them, especially if it's Android or Wp7. You will never see timely or meaningful updates for your phone.
Lack of Swype. Swype is a very sweet technology that we don't get to enjoy in the Wp7 platform. I mean, symbian and meego have swype! Wp7 don't have anything but a very crappy kb and and ****ty autocorrect. I was also very tired of dealing with that.
Lack of over the air updates. Seriously MS? I still have to connect my phone to zune and update that way? Not to mention that can only happen if ATT thinks I, as a customer, deserve to update my phone.
Lack of interesting/appealing apps. We all know how this is in Wp7.
Lack of interesting in keeping legacy devices updated. Which honestly happens with android as well, with the difference being that if you have an android phone, you have the chance of flashing a new rom/forcing the updates as the code is open source. Go try that with a Wp7 and see if it's that easy... NOT!
No custom ring tones still, really... after more than two years? Give me a goddamn break!
And franky, there's more, a lot more, but those are things I can think of right away.
*sighs*

weeo said:
I'm also in the same boat. I'm not sure whether to get either the HTC One X, LG Optimus 4X HD or the Galaxy Nexus. I dont care about updates as I use custom roms. Or shall I wait for a quad core Nexus phone?
P.s. the phones in my signature are review devices so I have tried the Nexus and One X... just need insight
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I was excited about quad core phones and so on until I read what Intel had to say on android not being optimized to deal with dual/quad cores. The hardware is there, ready to ship with multiple cores. However, according to intel (they have been developing their own android phones), android as it is right now isn't optimized to take advantage of multiple cores. Maybe in the next major release of the OS that won't be an issue anymore, but as it is right now the software isn't ripe enough to do that. So, in my case, I decided to save a few bucks and buy the galaxy nexus for 350 from google. Maybe in the future when the software is up to par with the hardware I will consider a quad core android phone.

If you want to unlock the bootloader go and find the thread about toolkit 7,it is verkligen easy to use.
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If you're a flashaholic like me, the Galaxy Nexus is what you want I had Jelly Bean only a few hours after Google announced it
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Pjodor said:
If you want to unlock the bootloader go and find the thread about toolkit 7,it is verkligen easy to use.
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I definitely will once I receive the phone next week. Although I think I will be using the official rom more often than not, unless I find something better out there =)
Thanks for all the helpful advice guys!

barroco said:
I was excited about quad core phones and so on until I read what Intel had to say on android not being optimized to deal with dual/quad cores. The hardware is there, ready to ship with multiple cores. However, according to intel (they have been developing their own android phones), android as it is right now isn't optimized to take advantage of multiple cores. Maybe in the next major release of the OS that won't be an issue anymore, but as it is right now the software isn't ripe enough to do that. So, in my case, I decided to save a few bucks and buy the galaxy nexus for 350 from google. Maybe in the future when the software is up to par with the hardware I will consider a quad core android phone.
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The thing is I cant change my phone until i raise enough money... so surely going ahead of the game is better? Is there going to be a new Nexus out this year?

weeo said:
The thing is I cant change my phone until i raise enough money... so surely going ahead of the game is better? Is there going to be a new Nexus out this year?
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No one is really quite sure. Some people argue that the Nexus 7 was the "nexus device of the year" while others say that there will be multiple nexii being released in Q4 of this year (each from different manufacturers). So to sum up... nobody really knows for sure! But, Google has a history of releasing one Nexus phone a year, and so companies tend to follow their previous trends. Now whether it'll have a new or updated OS (4.2, 5.0) is a whole 'nother story...

barroco said:
Thanks!
I was really pissed yesterday night after knowing about the injunction on the Galaxy Nexus phones!
Also, when it comes to my previous experience with MS/Windows Phone 7 this is what I have to say:
ATT and their update schedule sucks. Do yourself a favor and never buy a phone from them, especially if it's Android or Wp7. You will never see timely or meaningful updates for your phone.
Lack of Swype. Swype is a very sweet technology that we don't get to enjoy in the Wp7 platform. I mean, symbian and meego have swype! Wp7 don't have anything but a very crappy kb and and ****ty autocorrect. I was also very tired of dealing with that.
Lack of over the air updates. Seriously MS? I still have to connect my phone to zune and update that way? Not to mention that can only happen if ATT thinks I, as a customer, deserve to update my phone.
Lack of interesting/appealing apps. We all know how this is in Wp7.
Lack of interesting in keeping legacy devices updated. Which honestly happens with android as well, with the difference being that if you have an android phone, you have the chance of flashing a new rom/forcing the updates as the code is open source. Go try that with a Wp7 and see if it's that easy... NOT!
No custom ring tones still, really... after more than two years? Give me a goddamn break!
And franky, there's more, a lot more, but those are things I can think of right away.
*sighs*
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WP7 has one of the best keyboards on the market that is arguably rivals iPhone keyboard. But I agree with the other points you listed.

anton2009 said:
No one is really quite sure. Some people argue that the Nexus 7 was the "nexus device of the year" while others say that there will be multiple nexii being released in Q4 of this year (each from different manufacturers). So to sum up... nobody really knows for sure! But, Google has a history of releasing one Nexus phone a year, and so companies tend to follow their previous trends. Now whether it'll have a new or updated OS (4.2, 5.0) is a whole 'nother story...
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Thanks. If i buy the GN, would it be classed as "outdated". I know all phones get outdated but I don't wanna get a outdated (specswise) phone. Its really tough... thanks for your reply, gotta thank this now. Btw sorry at @OP for thread jacking..
I am also gonna buy the Nexus 7 so that could be my Quad Core device... really stuck here
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RogerPodacter said:
WP7 has one of the best keyboards on the market that is arguably rivals iPhone keyboard. But I agree with the other points you listed.
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SwiftKey X
@weeo: Galaxy Nexus isn't outdated in any form or shape. People may criticize that it's outdated because of core numbers.
But honestly... who needs a Quad Core? Is it nice to have? yeah... is it a necessity? not really.
Jelly Bean.... what's the first phone getting it? Galaxy Nexus... Is it really outdated? In hardware perspective, it may be somewhat outdated but not to the extent that it has NO hardware that it can't compete with other devices.
Software wise... Galaxy Nexus is more than relevant and it will stay this way for the next two years.

zephiK said:
SwiftKey X
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FTW! I'm really happy with the Android 4.0 keyboard. Very predictive and I've heard 4.1 has a better keyboard
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weeo said:
FTW! I'm really happy with the Android 4.0 keyboard. Very predictive and I've heard 4.1 has a better keyboard
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Yeah I heard it does as well, but I never gave it a chance because I'm addicted to SwiftKey X.... also I modified my post about "Galaxy Nexus" being outdated

4.1 has the exact same vanilla keyboard as 4.0 had... nothing special or new that I can tell

zephiK said:
SwiftKey X
@weeo: Galaxy Nexus isn't outdated in any form or shape. People may criticize that it's outdated because of core numbers.
But honestly... who needs a Quad Core? Is it nice to have? yeah... is it a necessity? not really.
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Bro that touched me right at the end. :crying:

zephiK said:
Yeah I heard it does as well, but I never gave it a chance because I'm addicted to SwiftKey X.... also I modified my post about "Galaxy Nexus" being outdated
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Yes, SwiftKey X is really great, highly recommended.

zephiK said:
When you first get the phone. Unlock the bootloader (search the forums on how to do it). After that, enjoy the phone and look around the Play Store for apps that you may like. There are a lot of apps to look around from.
The reasoning behind unlocking the bootloader (first thing) is because if you DO decide to root and flash custom ROMs after you already set your phone up. You can back up your apps / data whereas if you want to root/flash... you'll have to unlock bootloader (which will wipe everything).
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You can use Ezekeel's app to unlock the bootloader without wiping.. it costs money and I've never tried it though. Also, you have to root it yourself afterwards.
barroco said:
I was excited about quad core phones and so on until I read what Intel had to say on android not being optimized to deal with dual/quad cores. The hardware is there, ready to ship with multiple cores. However, according to intel (they have been developing their own android phones), android as it is right now isn't optimized to take advantage of multiple cores. Maybe in the next major release of the OS that won't be an issue anymore, but as it is right now the software isn't ripe enough to do that. So, in my case, I decided to save a few bucks and buy the galaxy nexus for 350 from google. Maybe in the future when the software is up to par with the hardware I will consider a quad core android phone.
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Uhh, you have to keep in mind Intel is trying to sell their (at present, single-core) chips. They're not exactly an unbiased observer here.
The Nexus is still a good choice, however. It's now pretty cheap (though may not remain that way once the injunction sets in) and it'll be the first to get jellybean and project butter.
weeo said:
Thanks. If i buy the GN, would it be classed as "outdated". I know all phones get outdated but I don't wanna get a outdated (specswise) phone.
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But, uh, I have to disagree with the other person here. The GN is a last-generation phone (not just in cores, but in stuff like camera, GPU) and, as such, it can be called "somewhat outdated".

LolliPop for the Note 4 due soon...

Looks like Samsung may release LolliPop to our beloved Note 4 sooner rather than later.... but how long will the carriers take before turning it around for us?
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/10/21...te-to-android-lollipop-for-the-galaxy-note-4/
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I will be shocked if we see it before April 2015 on AT&T. Samsung will have to massage it, then AT&T has to bloat it.
I hope I'm wrong.
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I'll probably have sold the Note4 before it gets lollipop.
In 6 months of owning the S5, it was never upgraded to 4.4.4

harlenm said:
I'll probably have sold the Note4 before it gets lollipop.
In 6 months of owning the S5, it was never upgraded to 4.4.4
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4.4.4 has only been out for 4 months, you think you'd have it already on a carrier specific phone, and samsung at that? and with 4.4.4 being a minor update?
By the time 4.4.4 released, Sammy was already well into working on 5.0 Why do the work for a minor update when you could just go straight for the big release?

TechSavvy2 said:
4.4.4 has only been out for 4 months, you think you'd have it already on a carrier specific phone, and samsung at that? and with 4.4.4 being a minor update?
By the time 4.4.4 released, Sammy was already well into working on 5.0 Why do the work for a minor update when you could just go straight for the big release?
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It was released by other carriers.

harlenm said:
It was released by other carriers.
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And? That means nothing. What is it you think you're missing out on with the 4.4.4 update? In answering that 99.99% of people are going to have to look up what the update even entitled.... Can't complain about not getting something that changes absolutely nothing in your phones functionality / aesthetics / UI

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It was released by other carriers.
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I was shocked when Verizon released it, they are usually really slow. ..
And to answer Techsavvy2's question, in Verizon at least, the GS5 4.4.4 update fixed many Bluetooth issues that were present in 4.4.2. But I agree with Tech's point in that new for new's sake is a little pointless.
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I hope we see it before the New Year, although I know the odds of that happening are almost nil. I also hope Samsung adopts the new aesthetic as much as possible, though their current version of Touchwiz is much better than previous versions.

Hope so. Not going to hold my breath waiting though.

Good news
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/570797/20141027/lg-g3-galaxy-note-4-samsung-s5.htm
Warning: gnarly ads ahead, must wait for ad to display before scrolling down

Jennygirl said:
Good news
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/570797/20141027/lg-g3-galaxy-note-4-samsung-s5.htm
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Terrible link. I can't read the article due to the constant scrolling as ads load and the full screen T-Mobile ad that I can't seem to dismiss.

ekinnee said:
Terrible link. I can't read the article due to the constant scrolling as ads load and the full screen T-Mobile ad that I can't seem to dismiss.
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Adblock Plus is amazing for google chrome, now if your on your phone idk what to tell you.
Thanks for this article!

ekinnee said:
Terrible link. I can't read the article due to the constant scrolling as ads load and the full screen T-Mobile ad that I can't seem to dismiss.
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Yeah it's pretty bad. You have to wait to let the ad load before the page will let you scroll downwards. I experienced the same thing. Give it 10-15sec to load and hit the X in the top right, then you should be good
Sorry about that

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Yeah it's pretty bad. You have to wait to let the ad load before the page will let you scroll downwards. I experienced the same thing. Give it 10-15sec to load and hit the X in the top right, then you should be good
Sorry about that
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It's not you. It's the sites that seem to try and piss you off and have you not read the article because you have to dismiss so much **** to see the content.

ekinnee said:
It's not you. It's the sites that seem to try and piss you off and have you not read the article because you have to dismiss so much **** to see the content.
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Thanks and I hear you, the news sites seem to be the biggest offenders.
At least it is good news
Hopefully as stated earlier in the thread it holds true for AT&T. Maybe they will realize with such a big OS release that people will want it sooner than later.

I have a feeling AT&T is going to delay it for at least a month while it figures out what features they want to disable to add in their own bloated, pay to use version of it !

Why is it called lollipop.....suckers.....
So maybe now a nexus 6 is looking good?

Good.luxk getting one.
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For anyone else who loves the new design eLements, there is a great post here that allows you to install an L themed google keyboard for non-rooted devices. I must say, I've been using it for several days and I love it!! Totally appeasing my need for the new style.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53716545

Here is another preview of android L on the s5 with the updated touch wiz UI to incorporate material design:
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-gives-second-preview-of-lollipop-for-galaxy-s5-20141101/
Looking pretty nice.
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New update for A51 & A71

Samsung has released a new software update bringing a range of leading Galaxy S20 features to the Galaxy A series. Galaxy A51 and A71 device users will now be able to harness some of the Galaxy S20 series’ powerful innovations, designed to make the way we capture, connect and share more dynamic than ever before.
https://news.samsung.com/global/gal...features-thanks-to-the-latest-software-update
Update 14-07-2020: Updated received on my unlocked A71.
It's 1842,98MB

It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.

DonAndress said:
It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for the OneUI 2.1 update

JordyEGNL said:
Yeah, I'm waiting for the OneUI 2.1 update
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What does it do?
I replace all stock Launchers with Nova. Will OneUI 2.1 make sense for me?

DonAndress said:
What does it do?
I replace all stock Launchers with Nova. Will OneUI 2.1 make sense for me?
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You can search online for the difference between the two. I really want Audio Share so I can share audio with friends

DonAndress said:
It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.
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Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.

Yepi69 said:
Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.
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ROTFL [emoji28]
Where did you see me saying that I'm not happy with my phone? I actually think it's brilliant (especially the battery) while costs a fraction of S20 [emoji3]
But at the same time I'm not gonna praise all software changes it gets if I don't like it. That's called being a fanboy, buddy.
You seem not to understand what I say. But you can always ask [emoji6]

Yepi69 said:
Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.
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Same goes for you towards any forum. He never said he don't like the phone, only commenting the update, wich is helpful in general or specific.

andreoide said:
Same goes for you towards any forum. He never said he don't like the phone, only commenting the update, wich is helpful in general or specific.
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No it doesn't, more than once I've seen this user say this or that about the phone or the apps in it. Not talking about this thread either.

Yepi69 said:
No it doesn't, more than once I've seen this user say this or that about the phone or the apps in it. Not talking about this thread either.
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What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.

DonAndress said:
What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.
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Can you guys please discuss this somewhere else? Thank you

DonAndress said:
What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.
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If you put updates don't hold, don't complain when something else doesn't work as intended.

Yepi69 said:
If you put updates don't hold, don't complain when something else doesn't work as intended.
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Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...

DonAndress said:
Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...
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Well you are right in one way ?
I've seen you complain about system apps and the Google framework in it's entirety, but yeah. Obviously I don't have a clue right? ?
You want an Android One device, buy one. Simple as that.

DonAndress said:
Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...
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Yepi69 said:
Well you are right in one way ?
I've seen you complain about system apps and the Google framework in it's entirety, but yeah. Obviously I don't have a clue right? ?
You want an Android One device, buy one. Simple as that.
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Can you guys please make a new thread and don't spam this one with your discussion? Thank you

As for updates , my UK unlocked A71 is still on April 1 update , I know the A 71 will get updates in a " big " lump.. every quarter, but I would prefer incremental updates, rather than a huge update .. if it ever gets here .. i want to to keep stock , romed before ... done it .. hence keep stock

drchip42 said:
i want to to keep stock , romed before ... done it .. hence keep stock
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Hmm you didn't have good experience with different roms?

DonAndress said:
Hmm you didn't have good experience with different roms?
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No it was fab , got want I wanted etc.. but I've been there done that, it was good, but took time. hence now just want " out of the box" with nova launcher. It's even helped me get full java games, apps, etc on my Chromebook .
That's why I'm still here, as they say " once you tweak you can never turn back!!"

Being new to Samsung and how they update their devices, how long does it usually take for the update to hit all channels/versions of the phone? I have the Panama version of the A71 and have not yet received the update. Just curious as to what to expect so I don't have to spam the update button throughout the day.

arecad said:
Being new to Samsung and how they update their devices, how long does it usually take for the update to hit all channels/versions of the phone? I have the Panama version of the A71 and have not yet received the update. Just curious as to what to expect so I don't have to spam the update button throughout the day.
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I'm in the same place. I have the a71 but am new to Samsung and how they update.