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Hero update Iminent, but now if you have ROOT!

Check out this link:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hero-update-confirmed-imminent-1852644/
Appears as though HTC are gonna address the lagginess expereinced by many (including myself) with an OTA update.
Those with root like me will not get the OTA update as ive read the firmware wont update on rooted phones. Im wondering whether people will put their chef hats on with the new update to create a rom based on it?

You could restore a backup from a point where you had not rooted your phone yet
It basically unroots itself that way.

ammurad said:
Check out this link:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hero-update-confirmed-imminent-1852644/
Appears as though HTC are gonna address the lagginess expereinced by many (including myself) with an OTA update.
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That link makes no mention whatsoever that the update will be OTA - in fact, it says:
“HTC will be providing a software update for the HTC Hero, which will be available via the HTC website in the coming weeks.” HTC statement
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Via the website almost certainly means download and update manually. Being rooted shouldn't stop you applying the update, though you will probably lose root in the process.
Note that Google pushed OTA updates out for the G1, and the reason they didn't work on most rooted phones was because the procedure used to root the phone specifically switched off the OTA functionality to avoid the phone getting an update and losing root.
Regards,
Dave

It was confirmed prior to release that the Hero would be incapable of receiving OTA updates.

Ok thats useful information. We can just hope now that the update will get rid of the lag.

Someone needs to change the thread topic to
Hero update Iminent, but noT if you have ROOT!

ghoonk said:
Someone needs to change the thread topic to
Hero update Iminent, but noT if you have ROOT!
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I thought it was only OTA updates that rooted phones couldn't recieve.

Biffert said:
You could restore a backup from a point where you had not rooted your phone yet
It basically unroots itself that way.
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correct me if i am wrong but even if you back up with nandroid before rooting , running the backup doesnt unroot your phone.
anyway, it is not a problem. all u have to do is just to flash the stock rom posted on this thread and then run the update if this is the case .

I don't think ROOTING is the problem. I think that some people, in the process of rooting, end up changing the recovery.img with test keys which the update may check against and prevent the update.
I updated mine using ADB and used fastboot, so I don't think I actually changed the recovery.img, so future updates will just see my phone as a 'normal' unbranded device (albeit with Superuser.apk and su.apk, and the HTC CIME)

After OTA update, We will get the Custom rom of Hero soon (Like in G1)

how to manual install OTA update and app2sd

Hey,
When i first got my desire, one of the first things i did to it was root it and install the blank generic HTC rom (to get rid of all the crap my service provider had put on it). However, as its rooted i cant install the OTA update over the air. So ive downloaded the latest one from this forum but how to i install just the update exactly? Actually, i think i just downloaded the non root OTA update, is there a rooted 1.21... update somewhere?
Also, when i initially put the new rom on my phone, i didnt put app2sd on there as i heard about all these phones being bricked and didnt want to lose my nice new shiny desire, but ive heard this problem is now solved. How do i go about installing it now? Do i have to reflash everything or can i just install it over the top as if its an app itself somehow?
so to summarise:
1. how to install OTA manually
2. How to install App2sd
Thanks for you help

[Q] I'm rooted and I still don't have the 2.2 do I have to unroot?

I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A9AI5RM9
Thats the RUU, apply this update and you'll be completely stock 2.2

what do you mean apply I've downloaded this before I can't find the file to download and when I try to open it it says it doesn't have a program to open.

If you are rooted Most Roms will not allow an OTA to come through.
you have options the option listed above will unroot you and install 2.2.
the other option is to go to the dev forum and download a 2.2 custom rom or the rooted 2.2 stock rom. flash those and you are good to go.
I will remind that currently there is no way to root 2.2 so if you choose to go through the RUU and go to stock rom that way you will NOT be able to root at this time. It could also be WEEKS before a root method is found. I dont know why anyone would want to or would suggest doing this unless you plan to take it in to sprint for repair.

How do I apply the first file?

kidcjay25 said:
I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?
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No you do not need to unroot. If you accept that ota update it will take away your root because the rom it puts in isn't rooted. I happened to download and try out froyo 2.2 like 3 days ago to see how it functions. It works very well however the update killed my hotspot completely. I ended up restoring back from Froyo 2.2. I will give a link that will take you to the downloads to do it where the rom comes rooted, and the radio and wimax drivers are there as well. Here it is.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740520 One thing to remember is this is not the absolute final build that is pushed out on the OTA update that they have done today. So my guess is very very soon if not already there will be a posted and rooted version of the final build. I am unsure and I am almost positive nothing is every final, but I don't know if you will be able to re-root your evo if you just accept the update from Sprint. If you no longer want a rooted phone and all you care about is getting the update, then you can or will have gotten the request today from sprint as I did or you can look for the update manually in system updates, from settings at the home page. Hope that helps and take care.

kidcjay25 said:
How do I apply the first file?
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I strongly suggest you do not just get stock 2.2 because you have no idea if you will ever root again. Unless your taking it into sprint it makes no sense. I really do not want to attempt to get you that file because its a massive mistake. The download does work though i already tried it that much i can say. See if someone else will actually tell you what you need to do because i'm not sure i can bring myself to do it sorry. I am slightly unsure how you ended up rooting your phone if you are having trouble with a download that has an executable file as in you click on it and it runs If you however need help downloading or flashing or whatever the other stuff that i linked that i will definately try to assist you with. If you flash a stock rom you can and will get the message to update the system and you can manually look for it too. The roms have that disabled so people can't due to ignorance, apply the update then say, "Oh crap I am not rooted how do I fix it?", which we will see a lot of today.

[Q] Do I need to unroot before updating or can I just update?

I bought my At&T Play this summer off ebay (probably a model handed out at a developers conference). It came rooted already, been using it fine. After hearing about the new update for HD video recording I went to update and realized I hadn't updated from 2.3.2.
Now, I know updating will unroot the device but I am pretty sure I don't use any of the rooted-features. Do I need to unroot before updating the device or can I just go ahead and update? I just want to avoid any issues from updating a rooted device.

make sure the bootloader is LOCKED! If you deleted any SYSTEM APPS you would NOT be able to update!

If the ota update is available for you then you can update and keep root but as Cat_On_Droid has said if you have uninstalled anything off the phone then ota updating will not work.
You will have to reflash to stock (2.3.2) > root > ota to be rooted on the latest fw. It all depends though if your provider has relased the new update for ota. Im not sure what the developers At&T device is running, maybe world generic?
If you update using pc companion or anything other than ota it will wipe your phone so no need to unroot when updating. I have used pc companion and seus to update before with a rooted phone and it just wipes the phone and reinstalls whats missing when it updates.
As Cat_On_Droid has also said make sure your bootloader is locked. If you update normally using PC companion, SEUS or ota with an unlocked bootloader it will brick your phone.

Mozzak said everything, but pants if you have any questions you can visit this thread
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1274634
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Question about OTA updates

Even though I'll probably be on to a new phone by the time the Inc 2 receives its OTA ICS update, I nevertheless want to be able to upgrade to it when it arrives. My question is, will the nandroid backup I have (Android version 2.3.3 with superuser but none of the bloat removed) be able to receive it? Or will I need to go through the whole process of unrooting and restoring 2.3.4 first?
Sent from my Incredible 2 using XDA

tattedupboy said:
Even though I'll probably be on to a new phone by the time the Inc 2 receives its OTA ICS update, I nevertheless want to be able to upgrade to it when it arrives. My question is, will the nandroid backup I have (Android version 2.3.3 with superuser but none of the bloat removed) be able to receive it? Or will I need to go through the whole process of unrooting and restoring 2.3.4 first?
Sent from my Incredible 2 using XDA
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you wouldnt want to take the ota regardless as it will likely block root and might bring an hboot that cannot be reverted from
id imagine we d get a leak of the ota ahead of time or just wait for a dev to make an update.zip version of it once its pulled from the servers or a phone

I also had a question about the OTA update. I HTC unlocked and rooted with SU and CWM recovery. I do have some of the bloated apps uninstalled with Titanium Backup. As soon as I heard that the upgrade for ICS was coming out, I flashed the stock recovery from the most recent RUU. Does anyone forsee any problems recieving the ICS OTA with this setup?

Well, not sure I would have done it that way... with the stock recovery you lose CWM's capabilities waiting for Vzw to release the ICS upgrade, and that could take months and months. Additionally, if you accept the ICS OTA my guess is that you'll lose root as well, and be stuck with Vzw's typical bloatware until you re-root. And we don't know if the new OTA will be immediately re-rootable. Some of the previous upgrades have required reverting to earlier versions.
As nitsuj17 remarks a few posts earlier, I would imagine that once the ICS upgrade for the Dinc2 is released, somebody will quickly get hold of it and post up a version for us rooted folks and we can just flash it from CWM. And use TB or AntTek App manager or whatever tool is your favorite to freeze or delete the Vzw crap. That's what I'm planning to do...