Have a Samsung Focus and after mango update (NoDo) 50Mb for month was enought to keep update my data (hotmail (updated every 15 min), google (updated every 15 min) and facebook accounts). Also, I use twitter and facebook apps to read news (separately) every day at night. Update my RSS Central channels and eventualy navigate trought marketplace and some internet wabepages. Now with Mango, my phone consumes 50 Mb in a week with the same uses above described. I'm I the only one with this situation? I would appreciate any help with this.
Thanks.
Pd. Sorry for my limited english. I do my best.
I noticed an increase as well. Mango uses about 150MB a month in background data per month for me. 99% of the time i'm on wifi, so my data usage is when the phone is asleep.
thanks for the answer. That sucks. I think i need a postpay contract.
Live Tiles, maybe?! Background agents?
Have you checked?
I'm using 12gb data plan with an app that can check how much I use daily.
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Live Tiles, maybe?! Background agents?
Have you checked?
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No Live tiles, no background agents used. In fact, i just revert to nodo and update to mango without add anything and the phone eats a lot of data.
Ttblondey said:
I'm using 12gb data plan with an app that can check how much I use daily.
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isn't AT&T app? cause i use my focus outside of US.
You are right about data consumption...in my country data plans are very expensive and I always get unlocked phones with prepaid data packets. With Mango, I spend 60mb in 2-3 days! In NODO, a 60mb data packet could last for almost 8-10 days with the same use/apps.
I have deactivated every automatic sync but the data consumption is still relatively big...even XBOX syncs automatically!! One note sync can't be turned off
MS must understand that their devices can be purchased in many places in the world and AFAIK only in USA there is free wi-fi like the oxygen in the air and data plans/contracts are better deals than an unlocked phone. In other countries we can't live with devices that depend so much on the internet.
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...even XBOX syncs automatically!! One note sync can't be turned off .....
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I think youre right with this. One Note, Office docs in skydrive and xbox sync at the same time when live account sync. I think we need a sync config in office hub and xbox live hub. I want my mail updated every 15 mins at least, but office docs and xbox live may update 2 times at every day (thats enought for me).
Yup, I understand what u r tryin t say, but Windows Phone is oriented to EU and US, as well as HSDPA countries.
Btw u can turn Xbox sync and Zune sync off if u do not wish to use too much of ur data balance tho.
The diff of Windows Phone, the essence of Windows Phone OS, is mainly rely on cloud computing and synchronization. If u don't use Live Tile, no Twitter push notification, no Facebook intergration chat, no MSN Messenger, no SkyDrive Office document storage, no photo sharing, no Xbox Live, no Zune real-time personal experience, no push Email, no Tellme voice guide, no Bing Maps, a Windows Phone experience is not outstanding at all, the reason Windows Phone is better sometime is largely bcuz there r so many Microsoft Service behind this platform, supporting it.
It's not when u r using Metro UI, u r using Windows Phone. That's wrong.
I noticed this as well. I had Mango beta versions and had my usual data usage. After the official update this month, I checked my data usage and it was much higher than usual, and I haven't really done anything differently. I keep off data when I'm home at wifi and usually just use it for directions and maps when I'm out.
Yep, this happend to me too. I have a 50mb data plan and everything fine with Mango-beta for 30 days. Now with Mango its only 15-18 days
I just deactivate all Xbox Live stuff, I check background workers, telemetry
For the record, I have my primary hotmail account with Push (since nodo, mango-beta, mango)
I have a MobileMe, Gmail, Hotmail and Exchange account set up to sync with my phone plus Xbox Live, a couple of weather apps, a few news live tiles and the Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn set up and in a week I've consumed 5.09MB so it must be device/firmware specific.
I am using a HD7 on O2 UK.
guys, did you have feedback disabled? if not disable. try to disable also checking of system updates via cellular data it is default enabled.did you try to make hard reset after mango update, it is confirmed that mango after hard reset drain battery less maybe probles with data usage may change. try to disable background apps.
both wife and myself upgraded to Mango and I paid close attention to data usage. The data usage went up maybe 10-15%, which I expected with life tile push when away from WiFi. Nothing outrageous.
karan1203 said:
I noticed an increase as well. Mango uses about 150MB a month in background data per month for me. 99% of the time i'm on wifi, so my data usage is when the phone is asleep.
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How do you know how data your phone uses? I still havent found any app for keeping track on that, if you have a suggestion Id love to try it out!
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isn't AT&T app? cause i use my focus outside of US.
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Would love to know that as well.
I use my focus outside the US, I see no utility in at&t apps so I erased them. Why should I keep them? my Data usage was about 150Mb/month, with mango i think it is like 180Mb/month, I dont think it is that bad.
i know at this times, everything go/back to internet. Push services, sync services, location services etc..But i think some services need to be more configurable. I dont need twitter, facebook or foursquare updated every 15 mins. That's the razon why i don't configure facebook and twitter accounts and install every app separately. Integration of the services is a good one, but need to be more configurable. In WM 6.x this is possible. Why leave out this feature in WP7 ??
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both wife and myself upgraded to Mango and I paid close attention to data usage. The data usage went up maybe 10-15%, which I expected with life tile push when away from WiFi. Nothing outrageous.
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Yes, that change is normal from NoDo to Mango, but not from Mango-Beta to Mango. Must be the same or in fact decreased because some last time changes/fixes
I have already disabled the "use my data connection" to check updates and send feedback
derausgewanderte said:
both wife and myself upgraded to Mango and I paid close attention to data usage.
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As for me it much easier to pay $10/month more and stop worry about data over usage (but I begun from the 200 Mb/month data plan too)
Related
Thoughts
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...id-ios-and-window/&category=mobile&postPage=1
I thought this was the biggest plus for WP7.
However the business side of me says smart move Microsoft. The user base of WP is too small to let this integration go unnoticed.
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Thoughts
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...id-ios-and-window/&category=mobile&postPage=1
I thought this was the biggest plus for WP7.
However the business side of me says smart move Microsoft. The user base of WP is too small to let this integration go unnoticed.
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If it works like WL currently works, there's really no point. Sure, WL will do some stuff. But it just isn't as integrated as it could be to gain a lot of following.
I remember Hotmail from a long time ago...in the early 2000s...that I used extensively. Hotmail was the main online email account. I had a lot of info stored in it...lots of mails, contacts and all kinds of stuff...and MS claimed they were doing some kind of system maintenance and everything was lost. My whole account, all accumulated files, mails contacts...everything...was gone. I stopped using MS services from that point. I felt they were trying to manipulate people into paying for the non-free service.
I have a MS email account, but it isn't trusted with important stuff that I can't cope losing. It wasn't me only. A friend I know that used Hotmail suffered the same thing.
Seems to intergrate only your contacts, photos and messenger (no office, music and other things stored on skydrive), it also would be restricted to an app not the same as it being intergrated into the phone.
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If it works like WL currently works, there's really no point. Sure, WL will do some stuff. But it just isn't as integrated as it could be to gain a lot of following.
I remember Hotmail from a long time ago...in the early 2000s...that I used extensively. Hotmail was the main online email account. I had a lot of info stored in it...lots of mails, contacts and all kinds of stuff...and MS claimed they were doing some kind of system maintenance and everything was lost. My whole account, all accumulated files, mails contacts...everything...was gone. I stopped using MS services from that point. I felt they were trying to manipulate people into paying for the non-free service.
I have a MS email account, but it isn't trusted with important stuff that I can't cope losing. It wasn't me only. A friend I know that used Hotmail suffered the same thing.
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I have ZERO issues with my windows live account. don't know what's wrong with yours. so back off Gmail and google fanboy lárgate!
Had a Hotmail account since 2001, no problems ever.
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Had a Hotmail account since 2001, no problems ever.
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i Have mine since 2000 and no problem either
eric12341 said:
I have ZERO issues with my windows live account. don't know what's wrong with yours. so back off Gmail and google fanboy lárgate!
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whoa.... He didn't say anything about Gmail or gogle services in that post. Relax. He had a bad experience and holds a grudge
That's his prerogative.
Btw, I've also had a hotmail account since 2001, never had an issue.
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whoa.... He didn't say anything about Gmail or gogle services in that post. Relax. He had a bad experience and holds a grudge
That's his prerogative.
Btw, I've also had a hotmail account since 2001, never had an issue.
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in other threads he has. he would always tot that his Gmail would instantly sync his contact info while windows live wouldn't ni matter if he edited it or not. I haven't had such an issue on my hotmail account but u can kinda see the undertone that was hinting that Gmail would handle this better.
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Nokia Maps now on Android and IOS. Thoughts ...
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Ok one more thing :
Nokia Maps now on Android and IOS. Thoughts ...
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Nokia Maps has simply made their mobile maps site compatible with Android and iOS browsers, that is all. So yes, its not anything earth shattering, but Nokia Maps are simply now compatible with their browsers. We're expecting much deeper app-based and possibly even OS-level integration with Windows Phone, so it'll be a different experience with Windows Phone.
Also, the Windows Live integration on other platforms is only an API. Someone still has to build these apps for them, so they aren't available yet till someone makes an app, Microsoft is simply opening up Windows Live to be more accessible on other platforms. You still get top-notch integration with a Windows Phone 7 device.
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in other threads he has. he would always tot that his Gmail would instantly sync his contact info while windows live wouldn't ni matter if he edited it or not. I haven't had such an issue on my hotmail account but u can kinda see the undertone that was hinting that Gmail would handle this better.
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there was no mention, or undertone of gmail in the entire thread, until you did. giving a persons personal experience isn't being a fanboy, or depreciating another service.
where did you pull that out of. anyway ?
hotmail account since 200x, but changed to omg-alternate-service and enjoy it.
I haven't really looked into it much but this sounds like a good idea. If the right tools/apps are developed, it can allow for a seamless experience no matter what devices you're using. Moving from one platform to another won't require a change of services. The SkyDrive stuff should be interesting, could allow it to become a better alternative to other cloud storage services.
Although all that could be completely wrong as I really didn't read the blog post. It just sounds like a good idea
I have had a Hotmail account since I beta tested the MSN Internet service in the mid 90s. My Hotmail is @msn.com. I have never had an issue with lost data that I didn't cause myself. Besides, now you can use the Outlook connector and store a copy of all your mail, contacts, and calendars locally.
I also find it rather foolish to dwell on the past. Things change so rapidly that holding a 10 year old grudge against one company could mean missing out on something really great. I have issues with Apple, Google, and Microsoft. I also have devices based on all three OSs. They all have good and bad points but I am willing to overlook the bad for the most part.
What I will not do is walk around with blinders on, thinking that any one of these systems are supremely better than the other. This simply isn't true. Nothing can be all things to all people.
I think the WLM integration is a positive change, and shows that Microsoft is learning from past mistakes.
One of these mistakes being the limitations on Zune pass availability. If they'd made Zune pass widespread I'm not sure people would care today about Spotify reaching the US.
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Nokia Maps now on Android and IOS. Thoughts ...
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If I noticed correctly, it's the exact same integration available on our WP7 IE9, isn't it? I tried accessing the Nokia Maps site with my Focus, and it seems to work fine. I have not tried with my Android yet, so don't know if there's a difference.
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If I noticed correctly, it's the exact same integration available on our WP7 IE9, isn't it? I tried accessing the Nokia Maps site with my Focus, and it seems to work fine. I have not tried with my Android yet, so don't know if there's a difference.
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Android and iOS display a more 'mobile' optimized version of the site. I've only been able to view the full Nokia Maps website on Mango (which works just great as well).
I like Hotmail but honestly it's the only service I used which has constant problems with showing embedded pictures in emails. Refusing to show them actually. On Wp7 it happened in 30% of cases. Also problems with attachements. For me Hotmail is not reliable but I wonder if it has anything to do with my location - Poland.
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If I noticed correctly, it's the exact same integration available on our WP7 IE9, isn't it? I tried accessing the Nokia Maps site with my Focus, and it seems to work fine. I have not tried with my Android yet, so don't know if there's a difference.
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That's my point/question, is WP losing the little exclusives it has?
Nokia is supposed to save WP with its map service, but Nokia is making its service for everyone.
WLM and Skydrive is going the same route.
Netflix is on all the major players.
What's left Zune pass and the metro UI?
https://market.android.com/details?id=shoozhoo.sorami&feature=search_result
Already in beta.
Oh ****, its for any file.
Decisions, this or drop box.
Good update.
IE9 : Great, except for removing the Quick Buttons for Tabs and Favorites
Bing : Vision and Audio Great. Local Scout I haven't tried.
Search Button : Removed Contextual Search Button - Terrible.
Messaging Hub : WLM and FB Chat are virtually useless. Messages come in way too late, if they even arrive at all. 90% of the time, they don't arrive for WLM. Haven't tested FB, but not expecting anything different there.
Visual Voicemail : for me (on T-Mobile), excellent.
Task Switching : Excellent
Email Client Changes : Excellent
Office Hub Changes : Excellent but it feels like no one tested this. You can't mvoe or delete files in your skydrive. When you back out of a folder you go straight to Office Hub instead of One Folder up. Things are alphabetized, but they don't put folders on top. It's all mixed in there. Just seems a bit messy. Otherwise, works as you'd generally think it's intended to work. Connections are very fast, not a lot of load time.
People Hub Changes : Generally great. Still doesn't update in the background, which makes the load times even more ridiculous if you have a lot of updates to load.
Me Hub Changes : Great. Live Tile works for Social Notifications.
*** WP7 Still Doesn't have a decent notification Cache, which is a bit terrible. Needed ASAP, IMO.
Calendar : Synching of To-Dos from Windows Live is a much welcome feature.
XBox Live looks better.
Picture Hub by default does a slideshow of all your pictures. Not a welcome'd default.
Podcast support in Zune HD Hub : Yay!
Biggest disappointment for me was the apparent uselessness of the WLM/Facebook chat in Messaging Hub. It was probably the single biggest feature I was waiting for when you assume obvious things like Browser, etc. would be brought up to par (which they have been, exceeding many expectations). That being said, it makes me feel less bad about spending $9.99 on Beejive for Android 4 days ago.
I can't believe Microsoft forced IM+ to butcher their IM app... for this... And the worst thing is this will not get fixed without a full FW update, since it's built into the OS.
yeah I miss the buttons for new tabs and favorites/history
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Picture Hub by default does a slideshow of all your pictures. Not a welcome'd default.
if you set it to shuffle background it will do a slide show of your favorites
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I havent used FB chat on RTM yet, but with the Dev beta FB chat worked great and fast
If the FB works great and fast that's cool and all.
I just know the WLM is useless outside of knowing who's online or sending one message you don't expect a response to, because it barely recieves the replies and when it does it recieves them anywhere from 0.5-3 minutes after other WLM clients both on WP7 and other platforms.
It's actually worse than Messenger by Miyowa, which is a miracle...
not sure your issue with WLM. It works flawlessly for me (and in real time).
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The WLM / Facebook chat works allright for me. It takes a little longer for messages to reach, but I've had long, fast conversations with it and it has worked flawlessly.
I was testing it out earlier by chatting back and forth with a friend of mine. Worked just fine. As soon as I hit send, I saw it come up on the computer. When I saw his message hit the comp, it hit my phone. Last one was about 2 seconds behind.
Now, I was on wi-fi. So, performance may vary with connection speed. Will test on 3G tomorrow.
My FB chat is almost instant. (Sprint HTC Arrive)
Facebook almost instant. Wlm, no.
And sorry but I was trying it with two phones and a computer. Its not operator error.
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And now that that has prompted me to recheck, the notifications and delivery seem equal to the android clients now...
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Facebook almost instant. Wlm, no.
And sorry but I was trying it with two phones and a computer. Its not operator error.
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WLM on the phone I think from my experience stops receiving messages if you respond elsewhere. Fo exmaple if a friend messages me, I get it simultaneously on the phone, web and desktop messenger. If I repsond on the phone I recieve all replies in realtime across all options. However if I reply on the desktop messenger or the web, I no longer recieve replies on the phone until I start responding on the phone. This works fine for me as it saves battery since im already responding elsewhere.
That's how it's intended to work. You're only supposed to receive responses on your phone to messages that were sent from your phone. With that being said, my WLM and Facebook are both instant. Not sure if it has to do with signal strength or what. I use both all day, and both never hiccup.
Haven't tried WLM yet, but FB chat is absolutely instant for me. I chatted with my wife basically in real time from my phone to her laptop.
They have removed timer from dropdown volume bar when tracks are played.
Call history still doesn't show call duration.. Only history which is useless.
I don't want that favorite window in pics hub. I don't have time to favorite pics.
Can't add more than 20 people to one group.
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Had the same issue with fb chat over wifi. But it's real time with 3G.
Maybe it's my connection and it's unrelated.
I would give it an 8 out of 10, they lose points for the extra taps required for tabs and favourites in IE. Biggest joy for me though was being able to change the default search provider from the truly awful Yahoo that O2 UK had forced upon us in earlier version to Bing!!!
It would appear to me if you have a contact that is Facebook linked and WLM linked it will only allow you to message them on there Facebook, which i guess makes sense since most people like them bother.
Bad:
Twitter updates doesnt work even though my account has synched with the phone.
Windows Live posts/updates doesnt work either.
Hardware search-button is COMPLETELY useless. "We can't connect to search at the moment. Check mobile data or WiFi connection".. Yeah I have full data and WiFi connection thank you very ****ing much. This is bull****. I know Local Scout and Bing Maps isnt available here but at least give me a web search or send me to bing web page. Useless!
Since I activated my Swedish Live-ID Zune doesn't get artist-backgrounds or artist-info. I should have figured since Zune Service isnt available here in Sweden. Album art on lockscreen doesn't work either. (Seriously?! I understand why we cant buy music through the Zune Service yet here in Sweden but why the hell cant my albumart be displayed?)
Good:
I love the new Live Tiles for groups and Me-tile, love the notifications.
Love Threads in email-apps and the ability to link mailboxes.
Like the new fb-integration, so far I havent installed the fb-app, I still miss that we cant see who like a certain photo etc.
FiyaFleye said:
That's how it's intended to work. You're only supposed to receive responses on your phone to messages that were sent from your phone. With that being said, my WLM and Facebook are both instant. Not sure if it has to do with signal strength or what. I use both all day, and both never hiccup.
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Wrong. WLM supports multiple points of presense.
Being logged in at multiple places doesn't matter. WLM has worked like this for over half a decade, now, if not longer.
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It would appear to me if you have a contact that is Facebook linked and WLM linked it will only allow you to message them on there Facebook, which i guess makes sense since most people like them bother.
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The Phone Prioritizes FB > WLM > SMS/MMS
You can switch between the three manually, with the switch button on the bottom of the screen.
Too bad there are no delivery confirmations like BeejiveIM or S/D/R tags like Blackberry/Kik Messenger.
Would like the ability to send Video, Contact, and Location as well.
http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-s-push-notification-servers-acting-live-tiles
It this affecting anyone else here? Facebook has had a 17 besides it for days and the WeatherLive app doesn't update at all anymore. Suggestions?
My Kik Messenger is showing a red asterisk instead of the count of people who talked to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDT4M0mBEYE
Anyone else?
Groupme and words by post both not working.
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Facebook and Weatherlive still not working. This sucks. The only time they update is when I manually launch the apps.
At times I think the live tiles get stuck for a day or two. This seems to be considerably less with Mango and Mango enabled apps, however.
I don't know if Facebook is working now, but it was yesterday.
WeatherLive has refused to automatically update since I installed it. I don't think the problem is on MS's end.
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At times I think the live tiles get stuck for a day or two. This seems to be considerably less with Mango and Mango enabled apps, however.
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Well it's been 10 days and bth apps have been uninstalled twice. There my only two apps that I turn on live tiles for.
If you look at the thread posted by the OP you'll see comments that the problem is still present.
I have been experiencing issues with Live tiles for my Whatsapp and Facebook app for around 2 weeks now.
If you have too many apps using push notifications, they stop working for some reason - I can't remember what the limit is, but try turning off push notifications on some apps and see if that works.
seem to work decent for MS apps - but most others don't update worth a ****
Weather Live refused to automatically update the live tile. I have Hong Kong Weather installed and it can automatically update the live tile with the current weather together with the update time stamp. This is not OS issue but the application problem. Weather Live needs to study and push the update to the exisiting buyer.
Spotify is now on Windows Phone!! Yayy!! Am glad that windows phone is still in the loop. It will only get better
Has anyone downloaded the app yet! I cannot post what am listening to on facebook.
Anybody?
Nevermind, I figured it out, lol
I think Spotify is great, especially because of the fact that it does not crash my phone every other song, like Zune does. I have already purchased a Spotify premium pass and if Microsoft and HTC don't fix the huge bug crashing zune on my Mozart, I'll have to get rid of my Zune pass altogether!
Spotify is the simplest media streaming solution I seen.
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I think Spotify is great, especially because of the fact that it does not crash my phone every other song, like Zune does. I have already purchased a Spotify premium pass and if Microsoft and HTC don't fix the huge bug crashing zune on my Mozart, I'll have to get rid of my Zune pass altogether!
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I was thinking about purchasing a premium too, lol
Lovin spotify on my Focus! a very good made App very smooth and very beautiful
I am getting worried now because all i have seen is positive words about the Spotify WP7 app but all i have is constant aggro with it. It seems to forget what playlists i have saved as offline randomly and if i launch the app with a slow (GPRS, 2G etc) connection then instead of just letting me into my offline playlists it craps out and again forgets which ones are offline or not!
I was kinda hoping others were suffering from bugs and problems with the app so i don't have to factory reset my phone and they can just issue an update.
Anyone?
I was excited about the Spotify application, but I think that it's far to unstable today. in one hour I experienced three crashes, one of them also resulted in the app deleting my offline playlist It also seems to drain at least twice the amount of power compared to Zune while I'm listening to music.
However it is interesting to note that Spotify is the first (non-OEM) app I've seen that are using Interop services and native binaries for their app..
I was super excited until I learned that Spotify requires a FB account. WTF???? I do not have FB and I do not want one.
Sir. Haxalot said:
However it is interesting to note that Spotify is the first (non-OEM) app I've seen that are using Interop services and native binaries for their app..
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Apparently Tango does as well
I have to say, these friggin cloud-based ideas are a joke. Seriously. They are just too complicated. Spotify, for all of its quality, just is the exact opposite of intuitive. And Skydrive, for trying to play music files, is nothing short of an unfunny joke. The files aren't anywhere. But they are on SkyDrive. But they aren't there.
And Spotify...I try to play music files on my phone and it says they aren't available in offline mode. Okay...how the friggin hell can I get it to go into online mode? There is nothing that indicates what the hell to do.
Does MS and these other cloud-based type app devs ...are they so disconnected from humanity that they cannot imagine there are a lot of users completely unfamiliar with all this crap? Do they honestly say to themselves that they will make cloud-based architecture work when no-friggin-body knows how to friggin use it?? [/rant over]
This is why some of prefer to not be dependent on the cloud. Joke indeed.
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SkyDrive doesn't really count because its not really meant for music at the moment. Zune Pass, Microsoft's cloud offering, works pretty well though.
As far as Spotify is concerned, I searched for an artist, clicked an album, clicked a song and it started streaming. Was really straightforward, what did you do differently?
MS needs to reevaluate their software seriously. Even the included Office app is a joke. I read something about music files being listed in Office documents and I tried to load Office 365 but it said I needed to set it up. Okay...I try to set it up by signing into my Live.com account and it says that account already exists. WTH! Okay...I see a descriptive little bit under the Outlook selection relating to Office 365. I tap it and it asks for an email and password. Okay...hmmm...I suppose it would be my Live.com UID and password. I type that in and it can't find it..
Why include crap on a WP7 phone that takes a scientist mind to understand??
Office 365 is a paid service. If you want to use office stuff in the cloud you use SkyDrive.
I don't think Microsoft needs to reevaluate it. There is no native SkyDrive music player, there are apps in the works to handle it and maybe Microsoft will build it in at some point. Office isn't intended to play music so it's no surprise that it sucks at it
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Office 365 is a paid service. If you want to use office stuff in the cloud you use SkyDrive.
I don't think Microsoft needs to reevaluate it. There is no native SkyDrive music player, there are apps in the works to handle it and maybe Microsoft will build it in at some point. Office isn't intended to play music so it's no surprise that it sucks at it
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Yeah, that told me volumes about all the details, nooks and crannies of Office. It told me the origin of Office 365. It told me exactly and precisely what I need to do to set up Office, what Office is, what it's about...in the minutest detail.
You see, when I say MS needs to reevaluate their software, I mean they need to learn how to explain it so a common WP7 user can understand it and how to use it...without reading the library of Congress.
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Yeah, that told me volumes about all the details, nooks and crannies of Office. It told me the origin of Office 365. It told me exactly and precisely what I need to do to set up Office, what Office is, what it's about...in the minutest detail.
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If you want to know what Office 365 is, then look it up.
The average Windows Phone user will be using SkyDrive to store documents, not Office 365 (subscription based) or SharePoint (corporate). Not sure why you're attempting to make this difficult.
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You see, when I say MS needs to reevaluate their software, I mean they need to learn how to explain it so a common WP7 user can understand it and how to use it...without reading the library of Congress.
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Come on man. It doesn't take more than 30 seconds to find out that Office 365 is a subscription service. That's like saying Microsoft needs to explain what Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn accounts are.
PG2G said:
If you want to know what Office 365 is, then look it up.
The average Windows Phone user will be using SkyDrive to store documents, not Office 365 (subscription based) or SharePoint (corporate). Not sure why you're attempting to make this difficult.
Come on man. It doesn't take more than 30 seconds to find out that Office 365 is a subscription service. That's like saying Microsoft needs to explain what Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn accounts are.
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You are kidding, right?? Are you serious? Do you not see, even you, another WP7 user who happens to be familiar with this stuff, how disconnected you are from those who aren't familiar with it??
Believe it or not, I still don't fully understand FB or Twitter. It took me a very long time to even know what the hell those things were and what their idea is.
You create an Office document, click Save, it asks you if you want to save it to Phone or SkyDrive (which is the default).
You create a Note, it saves automatically to SkyDrive.
You don't even need to know what you're doing for this to work.
PG2G said:
You create an Office document, click Save, it asks you if you want to save it to Phone or SkyDrive (which is the default).
You create a Note, it saves automatically to SkyDrive.
You don't even need to know what you're doing for this to work.
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To you it is as simple as blinking your eyes. But that's because you are familiar with it. Maybe you were born into it, I don't know. All I know is the common user doesn't know this stuff and the common user is who MS is targeting with WP7. And it's a bit more complicated than what you describe. I had to actually Google how to access the SkyDrive on my phone. And then when I go to the Office app, I don't see anything of my SkyDrive documents or other files.
It's more complicated getting started and going than what you can believe.
Hello All
I have a GNex "yakju" updated to Android 4.2.1 (stock, non-rooted). After the update, I have seen that Android OS started taking a big chunk out of my mobile data plan, around 40-50 MB per day. Previously, I'd hardly see any usage from this process.
I have started to investigate this behavior by using tPacketCapture. So far I've managed to see a lot of traffic to google servers (173.194.35.163) and the hourly exchange server sync, but it's encrypted and I don't know how to extract the TLS key from the phone (not sure if it's possible). In one hour there were about 3.3 MB of data transferred (I'm running on 2G to conserve battery), with no background applications.
Right now I'm rerunning the test with Auto Sync Data off, to see if it's not some malware, but it's highly unlikely (almost all my apps are from the play store) and will rerun the test with Backup to Google turned off.
Anyone got any insight on this? I could post the pcap file somewhere (I've scanned it and I'm pretty sure there's no unencrypted personal information in there), but I don't know if it helps.
P.S.: I've seen a lot of similar threads on here but they relate to other phones, and the majority of suppositions were hinting towards the bloatware of the stock ROMs
Turning off sync should do the trick.
But I do hope to hear from you.
So I turned off sync and it seems to do the trick (only ~200KB in one hour and all traffic was from a facebook app that does not obey sync rules - flipster). I don't like having sync off since it means no more notifications for new e-mails, facebook or contacts, and also these services were turned on before the 4.2.1 update.
I'm trying a new run with sync on but disabling everything that I don't care for (photos, google+, backup, currents, notes). Looks good for now (~56KB in 10 minutes). I'll see what happens.
Another odd thing I saw in the initial run - data came in chunks of packets roughly 7 seconds in between (a lot of packets, including SSL handshake, at 300 seconds, then a few packets, then a lot of packets again at 307 seconds, then at 314 etc.).
Monitoring, will post results ASAP
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Hello All
I have a GNex "yakju" updated to Android 4.2.1 (stock, non-rooted). After the update, I have seen that Android OS started taking a big chunk out of my mobile data plan, around 40-50 MB per day. Previously, I'd hardly see any usage from this process.
I have started to investigate this behavior by using tPacketCapture. So far I've managed to see a lot of traffic to google servers (173.194.35.163) and the hourly exchange server sync, but it's encrypted and I don't know how to extract the TLS key from the phone (not sure if it's possible). In one hour there were about 3.3 MB of data transferred (I'm running on 2G to conserve battery), with no background applications.
Right now I'm rerunning the test with Auto Sync Data off, to see if it's not some malware, but it's highly unlikely (almost all my apps are from the play store) and will rerun the test with Backup to Google turned off.
Anyone got any insight on this? I could post the pcap file somewhere (I've scanned it and I'm pretty sure there's no unencrypted personal information in there), but I don't know if it helps.
P.S.: I've seen a lot of similar threads on here but they relate to other phones, and the majority of suppositions were hinting towards the bloatware of the stock ROMs
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Maybe you've already done this but have you tried going into the sync settings for you google account to see if any of the services are failing to sync? For me the browser sync had been continuously failed for 2 weeks before i realized it.
I did have some issues with calendar and Google Photos (I think) not syncing, but I thought it was because I cleared the cache of Google Framework Services in an attempt to get the update to 4.2.1 earlier. Not sure if it helps, since I don't remember seeing any sync errors these days. I've stopped Browser sync now, I'll see how my data usage changes.
vladk2k said:
Hello All
I have a GNex "yakju" updated to Android 4.2.1 (stock, non-rooted). After the update, I have seen that Android OS started taking a big chunk out of my mobile data plan, around 40-50 MB per day. Previously, I'd hardly see any usage from this process.
I have started to investigate this behavior by using tPacketCapture. So far I've managed to see a lot of traffic to google servers (173.194.35.163) and the hourly exchange server sync, but it's encrypted and I don't know how to extract the TLS key from the phone (not sure if it's possible). In one hour there were about 3.3 MB of data transferred (I'm running on 2G to conserve battery), with no background applications.
Right now I'm rerunning the test with Auto Sync Data off, to see if it's not some malware, but it's highly unlikely (almost all my apps are from the play store) and will rerun the test with Backup to Google turned off.
Anyone got any insight on this? I could post the pcap file somewhere (I've scanned it and I'm pretty sure there's no unencrypted personal information in there), but I don't know if it helps.
P.S.: I've seen a lot of similar threads on here but they relate to other phones, and the majority of suppositions were hinting towards the bloatware of the stock ROMs
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I faced the same problem, issue was somewhat with auto backup of data, sync of app data & people details in google account,
BUT the main culprit in my case was uTorrent application.
Even though there was no torrent added to it, i didn't even opened it,
it was using 1GB data daily on WiFi and in data usage it was coming under Android OS usage. I uninstalled it, everything went back to normal.
So try to look for such apps which eat up your data in background, it may not be an error of android OS as such.
Hope this helps, Press THANKS if it did help you
Enjoy