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Exchange: Abandon HTC mail app and use TouchDown?

Probably like many of my colleagues blessed with the job of supporting these shiny new phones, I'm coming under increasing pressure to find an Exchange solution that actually works... I have therefore started the process of evaluating Nitrodesk's TouchDown to see if it provides a better solution.
I will report my findings in this thread and I invite others to do the same. We need to know if, for the corporate user, the $20 fee is not only worth it but necessary.

Yes, do it.
Just getting back on this. Generally speaking, it was a no-brainer. Touchdown works. The built in client doesn't.
Couple of niggles:
Touchdown seems to have a larger storage requirement.
Contacts have to be copied (a one-time manual operation) to the phone before you get all the benefits of contact sync.
Massive array of settings and options may be slightly overwhelming for some users although generally they can be ignored.
Emails can only be composed in plain text. Ditto signatures. Rendering of HTML emails received is good though.
Apart from that, Touchdown is better in almost every respect (once you get used to the change of interface).

Interesting take.
I'm using a Desire with the stock sync apps connecting into Exchange 2007 at work and Gmail for home. Everything worked out of the box (well, email, contacts, calendar). I miss being able to search the server, but the functionality works pretty much flawlessly....at least as good as my old WM6 smartphone, anyway The built in calendar is awesome...I love having a single calendar showing items from three different accounts!
What doesn't work for you in the built-in client? Your blanket "the built-in client doesn't work" is a little harsh, to say the least...
Daern

The only thing i don't like about the exchange sync is that i can't seem to subscribe to my folders within my mailbox that I can if i set it up as an IMAP account. Other than that, the inbuilt one does everything that I want it to

Yep built in HTC mail client working quite well for me as well for exchange sync. Mail/Calendar/Contacts plus lookup on corporate address book all working with no problems to report.
Didn't see the need to switch to touchdown though I did give it a try. It did not bring anything extra to the table.

My exchange account for gmail used tu work ok but the last few days it won't connect to the server and so I've deleted the account and re entered the server settings etc and I just get a failed to create account message.
Anyone got any ideas? I'm Considering touchdown, but does it have a widget?
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Contacts have to be copied (a one-time manual operation) to the phone before you get all the benefits of contact sync.
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can you elaborate on this?

Some answers
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Your blanket "the built-in client doesn't work" is a little harsh, to say the least...
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There have been quite a few threads prior to this with testimonies of the broken DirectPush/ActiveSync/Exchange implementation. There also appears to be a fault in the IMAP client. I accept that these faults may possibly affect some environments more than others (for example, we're currently on Exchange 2003 - due to upgrade to 2010 later this year) but given the wide variety of installed userbases out there, I would have expected HTC's testing to be considerably more rigourous.
Given that the phone is touted as having DirectPush/Exchange capabilities, that puts it squarely in the corporate market. And sorry, but the corporate market it quite unforgiving of deal-breaking flaws such as the ones users here have reported. An example from my own organisation: a couple of very senior managers were hit by the "multiple re-send" bugs, causing their hapless recipients to receive hundreds (yes, hundreds) of copies of some emails. Given the personalities involved, this became more than a little embarrassing. not least because one of the users was the director of our I.T. department. ("What, your phone is broken? Guffaw guffaw!")
I totally agree that the built in calendar was a great feature. In fact one of the most awesome things about the phone was the way it pulled together diverse information streams together. Sadly we have to forego this in order to have a working corporate setup that includes task sync as well as everything else.
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I'm Considering touchdown, but does it have a widget?
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Yes, actually it has several. The "universal" widget is great - quick and easy access to email, calendar, contacts and tasks all on one screen. Plus a load of quick shortcuts etc. Very usable.
@omniwolf: within Touchdown-->Contacts-->Menu is a "Copy To Phone" option. This needs to be done once so that the phone has all Exchange contacts within its own database. Then within Settings-->Advanced, tick "Update Contact changes to Phone" {save} to keep everything in sync. You'll see that your phone's contacts acquire an additional group, "TouchDown-Exchange".

I have the problem and are now using Touchdown.
We have Exchange 2003 and reading various reports from users that the problems dont exist if connecting to newer versions of exchange.
The main problem for us is the inability to search the GAL (Company Directory) I also had strange email sending problems as others have reported.
Touchdown works but is not as cleanly integrated into the phone as the inbuilt client.

Try using Moxier instead

masi0 said:
Try using Moxier instead
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Does Moxier have better integration?

Rob Pomeroy said:
Does Moxier have better integration?
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Unfortunately not - separate contacts/calendar/email client

I've only had my Desire for a say or so and used Touchdown from the start after advice from a colleague (and after reading so many online posts about problems with the native client).
I have to say, it's working really well so far. Small problem with contact birthdays and anniversaries being 1 day out, but the developer got back to me same day and advised a fix will be out next week. Impressive.
Certainly better than the WinMo implementation of Exchange support ActiveSync just slowed down my Touch Pro 2 to the point of being unusable. On the Desire, it's burning rubber.
I couldn't be happier; confident to recommend Touchdown as a reliable alternative (after a day or so of use, I'll let you know if that changes but no reason to suspect it will).
Pete

Rob Pomeroy said:
Just getting back on this. Generally speaking, it was a no-brainer. Touchdown works. The built in client doesn't.
Couple of niggles:
Touchdown seems to have a larger storage requirement.
Contacts have to be copied (a one-time manual operation) to the phone before you get all the benefits of contact sync.
Massive array of settings and options may be slightly overwhelming for some users although generally they can be ignored.
Emails can only be composed in plain text. Ditto signatures. Rendering of HTML emails received is good though.
Apart from that, Touchdown is better in almost every respect (once you get used to the change of interface).
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I beg to differ on the plain text front. The emails are composed and responded to in html.
I had no problem with the built in clients with an Exchange 2007 server, but I hated the fact that it only let me respond with text in Times New Roman 10pt when Outlook uses Calibri 11pt as a standard. So I switched to Touchdown, which allows you to set the font in the settings.
Been using it live for a bit more than a week now and am mighty impressed. Well worth the investment to not make it blaringly obvious that I'm answering my emails from the phone when I'm not in my office.

Quist said:
I beg to differ on the plain text front. The emails are composed and responded to in html.
I had no problem with the built in clients with an Exchange 2007 server, but I hated the fact that it only let me respond with text in Times New Roman 10pt when Outlook uses Calibri 11pt as a standard. So I switched to Touchdown, which allows you to set the font in the settings.
Been using it live for a bit more than a week now and am mighty impressed. Well worth the investment to not make it blaringly obvious that I'm answering my emails from the phone when I'm not in my office.
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I am surprised you find this a big deal especially when MOST mobile corporate mail user are armed with Blackberries that reply in plain text and actually advertise by default "sent from my Blackberry".
In this day and age, it is perfectly acceptable if not expected that you will have your email with you on the move. Don't try and hide the fact, shout about it so your customers can see how up to date you are.
Unless....
You are supposed to be cubicle bound and are sneaking out of the office hoping nobody will notice

@MARK said:
I am surprised you find this a big deal especially when MOST mobile corporate mail user are armed with Blackberries that reply in plain text and actually advertise by default "sent from my Blackberry".
In this day and age, it is perfectly acceptable if not expected that you will have your email with you on the move. Don't try and hide the fact, shout about it so your customers can see how up to date you are.
Unless....
You are supposed to be cubicle bound and are sneaking out of the office hoping nobody will notice
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Blackberry is a uniquely American affair that only recently began making headway in the rest of the world. They were the first to offer pushmail, but now that's ubiquitous and their solution requires servers at the operator which delayed things internationally. Now that numerous free solutions are available and Exchange offers html email support, it's just silly not to use it. Ultimately I think the user should be able to decide how his or her email looks and I for one think having the same look and feel across the board for email, regardless whether desktop or mobile gives a much more professional impression. Not only that, but many people find fonts like Times New Roman difficult to read.
For my part, I'm a freelancer and do most of my work odd hours and weekends, while I receive all my orders from 8-6. That means that I'm often out and about or can't be bothered to crack open the laptop just to answer an email, but I still want to be able to offer a polished impression - not have any potentially dislectic client have to struggle to read my email, or worse, have the guy shackled to a desk deciding whether or not to give me a huge assignment thinking that I'm always out playing (especially since I average 70 hours a week, though not always during the business day).
Moreover, it's not rocket science to implement this kind of option, just a single line of html inserted into the emails sent. It shouldn't be difficult to provide this to customers and I'm glad Touchdown realised this.

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Blackberry is a uniquely American affair that only recently began making headway in the rest of the world.
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I am not sure what country you are in but certainly in Europe BB is huge and has been for at least the last 5 or 6 years. Here in the UK, I cannot think of any of the FTSE100 companies I work with for who BB is the primary mobile email solution.
They were the first to offer pushmail, but now that's ubiquitous and their solution requires servers at the operator which delayed things internationally. Now that numerous free solutions are available and Exchange offers html email support, it's just silly not to use it
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I tend to agree but BB is embeded in corporate land and is going to take a lot of shifting
Ultimately I think the user should be able to decide how his or her email looks
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Only if it is the users own email. Remember that most mobile email users are using their companies mail platform so it is the companies choice not theirs.

PC Suite for G2

I'm coming from a Nokia 5800. Although the software was buggy as hell, Ovi Suite was still a great piece of software to sync all of my phone's data to a local copy of my PC (as opposed to Google's nosy cloud storage).
Ideally looking for something that could archive my contacts--as well as abilities to create/change/delete on my PC which would then sync with the phone. Also download all SMS's, photos/videos taken, and manage music.

If what I've read is true, google music should take care of this, its supposedly an itunes-like software
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Check out Double Twist. There is PC software and an app. Not sure if it would cover all your needs (ive never used it), but it appears to be a decent itunes clone for not just Android but other devices.

theres an app callled mybackup in the market. it will back everything up to the sdcard, then u can copy backup to pc if this helps.

Since people aren't too familiar with Ovi Suite: I need something like Palm Desktop for Android, and I don't want to pay $40 for CompanionLink.

Dude, you need to learn to love the cloud.
From GMail/GMaps/GVoice/GDocks/GCal/Picassa, I have every email, sms, voicememo, picture, video, call history, transcribed voicemail, task, appointment, map location, contact, document, etc. All from any webbrowser in any location, all damn-near instantly synced with my phone.
...but to answer you question, search for HTC Sync. I think it only works with Sense tho, so you will have to wait and flash the Z firmware once the hackers make the g2 flashable.
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Dude, I love the cloud.
But I also love having a local copy on my computers (which I back up regularly and save to my Dropbox). Being able to edit contacts and calendar entries without having to bring up a webpage is huge to me.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I live and work on the cloud. I never run any backups. I store nothing locally other than 4TB of pirated moves/tv. Being able to access everything from anywhere even if my house has no electricity is huge to me.
What's so bad about opening up a webpage? Opening outlook or whatever doesn't seem any different to me. Unless I am using my computer as a TV, all I ever need from it is a webbrowser, which is nice since every computer and smartphone in the world has one.
I do program ASP.NET/Win32/other and need that dev environment, but that too is all running on a VirtualPC in the cloud.

Not all of us always have constant data access, nor want to depend on it.
Plus, the difference between a webpage and outlook is MASSIVE.
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I know this is a pointless argument, but I am curious if you have ever given gmail with gtalk-desktop in your tray a real chance?
I used outlook at a job for work and personal for 6 years, then used outlook for work another 5 while using gmail for personal, and for the last 2 I have been gmail only. I always had the newest version on the newest os, but not in the last 2 years.
In outlook I was always sorting and running a search all was always dog slow. I can find anything in gmail as easily as finding any webpage with google. Gmail integrates with google calendar just as well as outlook and they can sync to eachother. Just sayin.
...anyway, did you look in to HTC Sync? Also, you could always run an exchange server at home and sync over the air.
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I'd probably choose services that keep the home PC synced with the cloud, keeping a local copy of what GMail etc use. Enough people do that that there are tools for that, and of course your phone syncs easily with the cloud. I think enough Android users drink the Google kool aid that there's not as much interest in syncing directly phone to PC without using the cloud as an intermediary. After years of wired syncing, I'm thrilled to have it work without any work on my part, personally.
But a search did turn up both The Missing Sync for Android and Handset Manager - both look to still be a bit buggy, but maybe they'll do the job or be worth watching.

We need HTC to make HTC Sync for non-Sense phones. Period.

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Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I live and work on the cloud. I never run any backups. I store nothing locally other than 4TB of pirated moves/tv. Being able to access everything from anywhere even if my house has no electricity is huge to me.
What's so bad about opening up a webpage? Opening outlook or whatever doesn't seem any different to me. Unless I am using my computer as a TV, all I ever need from it is a webbrowser, which is nice since every computer and smartphone in the world has one.
I do program ASP.NET/Win32/other and need that dev environment, but that too is all running on a VirtualPC in the cloud.
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Totally agree, That's the only way to go, really. When I moved up from my Moto Cliq to the G2 it took all of 5 minutes to get my phone the way I wanted. The hardest part was customizing my icon on the home screen. The data all synced from Google. My list of installed apps was backed up via "App List Backup" and I just re-installed them. Done.

Skydrive Warning

Hi Guys,
Heres a little warning for you all, I've just been caught out by this. Hopefully you can all avoid this trouble.
Basically my Skydrive account was suspended, which made my Omnia 7 (running Mango) almost useless.
Emails still worked, but contacts wouldn't update, Twitter wouldn't sync, I couldn't access ANYTHING stored on Skydrive. From the Phone or my PC's.
Even now that I've got my Skydrive account unlocked, something is still wrong, as new Skydrive files sometimes don't show up on the phone and contacts added/changed on the phone will show on the web, but not the other way round.
Why did this happen.....
I was at a party, had a few drinks and used my phone to take some 'stupid' photos of my mates doing some 'silly' things.
These photos were then automatically uploaded to Skydrive.
Where Skydrives automatic management system decided they were in contravention with the T&C's and insantly suspended my Skydrive account.
According the the T&C's link on the 'Blocking Page' you'll get a warning first, but I and a few others on the Live/Hotmail forums didn't.
The 'Blocking Page' also has a link to request assistants, but all you get is an automated response. Telling you you've broken the T&C's.
To make matters worse, the Mod's on the Windows Live Solution Centre do not have enough authority to help, so they send you to the same link thats on the 'Blocking Page'
Which gets you the very same automated response, telling you you've broken the T&C's.
It's taken me almost two weeks to get sorted out, but my account (the Primary account on my phone) still isn't working right. As noted above.
So Its a reset and start again with a new Live ID, which means changing the default ID's on both Zune and Xbox.
Hopefully you guys can learn from my mishap and avoid all this trouble.

was your skydrive settings set to private or me only?

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was your skydrive settings set to private or me only?
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I don't think it matters what your privacy settings are. You can't upload stuff that is against their terms of service.

I took quite a lot of nude photos of myself but my skydrive auto uploads is set to private. Havent gotten in trouble yet.

Don't sync your camera roll with SkyDrive.
Problem Solved.
Create a New Windows Live ID and factory Reset your phone.
Yea, it sucks, but if you want everything to work seamlessly that's what you're going to have to do.

If you have similar issues and want to get them resolved pretty quickly, try and contact @microsofthelps on twitter. Takes around 2 or 3 days at max until your account is unlocked again.

I guess calling them, would be faster, though.

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I guess calling them, would be faster, though.
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When I faced the issue that my account was blocked, calling the hotline was no solution as they were not able to help me. At least not the german hotline. The guys on twitter DID resolve the problem though.

Spotify now on Windows Phone 7

Spotify is now on Windows Phone!! Yayy!! Am glad that windows phone is still in the loop. It will only get better
Has anyone downloaded the app yet! I cannot post what am listening to on facebook.
Anybody?

Nevermind, I figured it out, lol

I think Spotify is great, especially because of the fact that it does not crash my phone every other song, like Zune does. I have already purchased a Spotify premium pass and if Microsoft and HTC don't fix the huge bug crashing zune on my Mozart, I'll have to get rid of my Zune pass altogether!

Spotify is the simplest media streaming solution I seen.

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I think Spotify is great, especially because of the fact that it does not crash my phone every other song, like Zune does. I have already purchased a Spotify premium pass and if Microsoft and HTC don't fix the huge bug crashing zune on my Mozart, I'll have to get rid of my Zune pass altogether!
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I was thinking about purchasing a premium too, lol

Lovin spotify on my Focus! a very good made App very smooth and very beautiful

I am getting worried now because all i have seen is positive words about the Spotify WP7 app but all i have is constant aggro with it. It seems to forget what playlists i have saved as offline randomly and if i launch the app with a slow (GPRS, 2G etc) connection then instead of just letting me into my offline playlists it craps out and again forgets which ones are offline or not!
I was kinda hoping others were suffering from bugs and problems with the app so i don't have to factory reset my phone and they can just issue an update.
Anyone?

I was excited about the Spotify application, but I think that it's far to unstable today. in one hour I experienced three crashes, one of them also resulted in the app deleting my offline playlist It also seems to drain at least twice the amount of power compared to Zune while I'm listening to music.
However it is interesting to note that Spotify is the first (non-OEM) app I've seen that are using Interop services and native binaries for their app..

I was super excited until I learned that Spotify requires a FB account. WTF???? I do not have FB and I do not want one.

Sir. Haxalot said:
However it is interesting to note that Spotify is the first (non-OEM) app I've seen that are using Interop services and native binaries for their app..
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Apparently Tango does as well

I have to say, these friggin cloud-based ideas are a joke. Seriously. They are just too complicated. Spotify, for all of its quality, just is the exact opposite of intuitive. And Skydrive, for trying to play music files, is nothing short of an unfunny joke. The files aren't anywhere. But they are on SkyDrive. But they aren't there.
And Spotify...I try to play music files on my phone and it says they aren't available in offline mode. Okay...how the friggin hell can I get it to go into online mode? There is nothing that indicates what the hell to do.
Does MS and these other cloud-based type app devs ...are they so disconnected from humanity that they cannot imagine there are a lot of users completely unfamiliar with all this crap? Do they honestly say to themselves that they will make cloud-based architecture work when no-friggin-body knows how to friggin use it?? [/rant over]

This is why some of prefer to not be dependent on the cloud. Joke indeed.
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SkyDrive doesn't really count because its not really meant for music at the moment. Zune Pass, Microsoft's cloud offering, works pretty well though.
As far as Spotify is concerned, I searched for an artist, clicked an album, clicked a song and it started streaming. Was really straightforward, what did you do differently?

MS needs to reevaluate their software seriously. Even the included Office app is a joke. I read something about music files being listed in Office documents and I tried to load Office 365 but it said I needed to set it up. Okay...I try to set it up by signing into my Live.com account and it says that account already exists. WTH! Okay...I see a descriptive little bit under the Outlook selection relating to Office 365. I tap it and it asks for an email and password. Okay...hmmm...I suppose it would be my Live.com UID and password. I type that in and it can't find it..
Why include crap on a WP7 phone that takes a scientist mind to understand??

Office 365 is a paid service. If you want to use office stuff in the cloud you use SkyDrive.
I don't think Microsoft needs to reevaluate it. There is no native SkyDrive music player, there are apps in the works to handle it and maybe Microsoft will build it in at some point. Office isn't intended to play music so it's no surprise that it sucks at it

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Office 365 is a paid service. If you want to use office stuff in the cloud you use SkyDrive.
I don't think Microsoft needs to reevaluate it. There is no native SkyDrive music player, there are apps in the works to handle it and maybe Microsoft will build it in at some point. Office isn't intended to play music so it's no surprise that it sucks at it
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Yeah, that told me volumes about all the details, nooks and crannies of Office. It told me the origin of Office 365. It told me exactly and precisely what I need to do to set up Office, what Office is, what it's about...in the minutest detail.
You see, when I say MS needs to reevaluate their software, I mean they need to learn how to explain it so a common WP7 user can understand it and how to use it...without reading the library of Congress.

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Yeah, that told me volumes about all the details, nooks and crannies of Office. It told me the origin of Office 365. It told me exactly and precisely what I need to do to set up Office, what Office is, what it's about...in the minutest detail.
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If you want to know what Office 365 is, then look it up.
The average Windows Phone user will be using SkyDrive to store documents, not Office 365 (subscription based) or SharePoint (corporate). Not sure why you're attempting to make this difficult.
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You see, when I say MS needs to reevaluate their software, I mean they need to learn how to explain it so a common WP7 user can understand it and how to use it...without reading the library of Congress.
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Come on man. It doesn't take more than 30 seconds to find out that Office 365 is a subscription service. That's like saying Microsoft needs to explain what Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn accounts are.

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If you want to know what Office 365 is, then look it up.
The average Windows Phone user will be using SkyDrive to store documents, not Office 365 (subscription based) or SharePoint (corporate). Not sure why you're attempting to make this difficult.
Come on man. It doesn't take more than 30 seconds to find out that Office 365 is a subscription service. That's like saying Microsoft needs to explain what Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn accounts are.
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You are kidding, right?? Are you serious? Do you not see, even you, another WP7 user who happens to be familiar with this stuff, how disconnected you are from those who aren't familiar with it??
Believe it or not, I still don't fully understand FB or Twitter. It took me a very long time to even know what the hell those things were and what their idea is.

You create an Office document, click Save, it asks you if you want to save it to Phone or SkyDrive (which is the default).
You create a Note, it saves automatically to SkyDrive.
You don't even need to know what you're doing for this to work.

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You create an Office document, click Save, it asks you if you want to save it to Phone or SkyDrive (which is the default).
You create a Note, it saves automatically to SkyDrive.
You don't even need to know what you're doing for this to work.
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To you it is as simple as blinking your eyes. But that's because you are familiar with it. Maybe you were born into it, I don't know. All I know is the common user doesn't know this stuff and the common user is who MS is targeting with WP7. And it's a bit more complicated than what you describe. I had to actually Google how to access the SkyDrive on my phone. And then when I go to the Office app, I don't see anything of my SkyDrive documents or other files.
It's more complicated getting started and going than what you can believe.

Log in problem with the official Twitter app.

Just wanted to find out if anyone is experiencing log in problems with the official twitter app on Windows Phone. I cant log in since 3:00 pm yesterday and it's driving me nuts. Have tried everything from reinstallation to time change etc but still not able to log in. Please help.
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I think it's a common error of the host network .

fewer people using that type of mindless nonsensical BS is beneficial to society as a whole, however, so you may consider halting your attempt to login

Thanks y'all. Thought hard reset will solve the problem but still not able to login after hard reset...regret I even did it coz I've lost important lab files....oh my!
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The Twitter app leaves a lot to be desired. I either use the built-in people hub or Seesmic when working with Twitter on my WP.

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The Twitter app leaves a lot to be desired. I either use the built-in people hub or Seesmic when working with Twitter on my WP.
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Agree!
That is why I would recommend Mehdoh [or our twitter client - TwiDeep]. Have heard good things about Carbon as well.

You should try out Rowi or Carbon. They are both excellent twitter client for Windows Phone.

The problem I'm facing is that, no twitter app seems to work now on my phone. They all give me twitter authorization error. Went to the site to make some changes but still. Now I think it's a general problem coz all my friends are experiencing the same thing. Contacted twitter but they are not aware of any situation. All apps that require twitter authorization are not working and I'm now frustrated. Can it be a geolocation services in my region.
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Kenzibit said:
The problem I'm facing is that, no twitter app seems to work now on my phone. They all give me twitter authorization error. Went to the site to make some changes but still. Now I think it's a general problem coz all my friends are experiencing the same thing. Contacted twitter but they are not aware of any situation. All apps that require twitter authorization are not working and I'm now frustrated. Can it be a geolocation services in my region.
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Kenzibit, had this anoying problem here and what i discover is that once u signed with your Live ID and then add Twitter account from settings, this account become linked to your ID and then this error starts cause you arew already signed in twitter and then the official app understand that and cant sign u account.
What i had to do is signed first with other ID that i had that i use only for business so no contacts no Twitter,Facebook nothing linked to this account than i download Twitter and worked since. Try this.

Ok thanks but this means, I have to hard reset again because WP does not allow signing out of you live ID, not even delete although you can delete all other accounts (gmail, yahoo, outlook etc). One I have signed in with this Live ID, I can't sign out untill hard reset....something I really don't wanna do beacuse I have a lot of unbacked up files, information and settings. I have to be ready before I do this. Any suggestions before I try this step?

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Ok thanks but this means, I have to hard reset again because WP does not allow signing out of you live ID, not even delete although you can delete all other accounts (gmail, yahoo, outlook etc). One I have signed in with this Live ID, I can't sign out untill hard reset....something I really don't wanna do beacuse I have a lot of unbacked up files, information and settings. I have to be ready before I do this. Any suggestions before I try this step?
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Kenzibit, yeah, this is really boring but believe me, tried a lot of things that couldnt resolve and only this solved. Unfortunatly. Already searched through Google and a lot of people has this problem that u cant remove a Live ID.

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Kenzibit, yeah, this is really boring but believe me, tried a lot of things that couldnt resolve and only this solved. Unfortunatly. Already searched through Google and a lot of people has this problem that u cant remove a Live ID.
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Wow...I went to my windows live ID and removed all associated social networks and apps and hard reset again (for the 8th time and now fear phone might start acting funny). Installed twitter app first, loged in and hurray i'm in.
Now fear if it will stop working again after adding all the removed apps and social networks. This wasn't so before why is it happening to me now.
Anyways thanks for your suggestion becuase it really worked.
All the best in what you do.