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A really bricked phone, Any ideas?

I really have bricked my phone.
I flashed with fastboot a corrupt alpharev patch of the n1table (not their fault).
Wiped with clockwork.
Then installed my nandroid
And it never started up again. I don't remember seeing the s-off joker flash screen, or anything.
I have no Bootloader, HBOOT, or excess to recovery.
Power on with Vol up= Nothing
Power on with vol down = Nothing
Power on with back button = Nothing
Only thing I have to say that it has a little life in it, is when I pull the battery, put it back in then connect the usb cable I will get the charge led come on. It also changes from Orange to Green. But as soon as power button is pressed, LED goes off and then there is nothing.
adb devices , brings nothing.
So have I got a paperweight, or do you think that there is a way around this? How can I get a HBOOT back on?
Any help is good help! Thanks for all help

Does a computer detect the phone when you plug it in?
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ste1164 said:
Does a computer detect the phone when you plug it in?
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Nope, adb devices, nothing!

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[Q] Root gone wrong, my screen is blank [non branded HTC Desire]

Hey guys!
Now this happened for some time ago because i switched phone to my blackberry in anger over the brick of the Desire, and i can't remember exactly this happened!
I think i rooted it and then the screen suddently went blank when i started it.
Now i searched the web for looooong time, and also some threads in here, to find my golden answer - but nothing hat helped yet. But i got a wierd feeling in my stomach that i'm doing something wrong.
So since i can't do it myself i decided to wright to you, and hope that helps!
My HTC Desire is not branded.- at least im pretty sure it isn't!! There is no place it's physically branded. And it's bought in Denmark, and i don't think we've got branded phones here as in UK and USA
I've tried this guide because i saw some people had succes with it:
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You don't need to root or do anything unusual in order to apply the FroYo update, you only need that for custom recovery. It's not impossible to do with a broken screen, just do this:
1. Make sure the update.zip file is on your goldcard and correctly named.
2. Take the battery out first to ensure the phone is powered off. Then hold vol down and press the power button, and hold vol down for about 5 seconds. That will get you into the bootloader even though you can't see it.
3. Press vol down once. This will select recovery.
4. Press the power button once. This will start the recovery. The phone will vibrate briefly.
5. Wait 20 seconds or so. Then press vol up and the power button and wait a few seconds. You'll now be in system recovery.
6. Press vol down once to select 'apply sdcard:update.zip'.
7. Press the power button once to start the recovery.'' QUOTE END.
But nothing happens.
And i also tried Unrevoked3, but neither did that helped, it got stock at ''Waiting for root... (safe to restart if this doesn't work)''
I would really appreciate if you would take your time to help me today! Because i really want my HTC Desire back, because it is a really sweet phone after all
I know you guys are much more wiser to this than me, so i hope you got at magical form to solve this out.

So... when you boot holding the vol down key what happens?

Well the tricky part about it is that i can't see anything! But if i go into boot (atleast i think i do) i can push VOL- and then Power button, and then it vibrates briefly, so i think it's going in to recovery.

Right, try this...
Download this RUU (2.29.405.5):
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Turn the phone off (remove the battery to be sure) and turn it on holding the BACK button. Hold back for about 5-10 seconds to be sure you're in FASTBOOT. Connect to the PC and assuming the drivers are installed wait a further 20 seconds
Then run the RUU. If you're unbranded it will install and should get you back up and running. If it completes and you still can't see anything the screen is dead and will need replacing

So what happens when you turn it on normally, vibrates and then you can't see anything? Maybe try this thread.

@EddyOS
Thank you!
I'm going to try the FASTBOOT right now! - i have slow internet, so i assume it's gonna take while to download the RUU - but i'll response the results here as quick as i can.
@TheGhost1233
Nothing happens, but i can see that there is light in the screen, because it turns slightly light-darker.
Also when i powered up the phone i can lock it up with my fingers and still use my touch, so it's not the ''touch'' function that there is broken.

touch is seperate to the screen anyway, lets hope its not a hardware fault and can be fixed! post your results

I'm trying with another RUU i have - while im downloading the on you've linked to - 8RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8_Radio_32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20_release_140022_signed is the one i'm trying with right now.
When i start the desire with holder down Volume (DOWN) and Power button for 5 seconds, and then plug the phone into USB there comes an jingle on my computer(which always appears when connecting any phone) but then it wont find more.
I can't see the device in ''My computer'' ?
And i get the ERROR [170] Connecting Error?

That's an old RUU so use the one I linked to

This is what i'm doing now:
Volume- and power in 5 seconds.
Plug the USB cable to the phone. (Now i can hear ''dy-dy'' from my computer, which means that my computer has detected a hardware. BUT i can't find the phone's SD Card in ''My computer'' - should i could do this?
But in my Applications i can find it under ''Special applications'' - i think i will translate i too - as ''Android 1.0''.
Now i run the RUU which you've linked to, but then i geat Connectin Error 170.
hmm?

You should be holding BACK, not volume down, when you turn it on as you need to be in FASTBOOT not HBOOT to run an RUU

Lol okay, i feel like a morron now, sorry for not have seen this.
But i still get the error 170, usb connection error!
Do i need to install HTC Sync? I've uninstalled it for the sake of unrevoked3.
And is there another way to do this? Over the phone exclusively maybe - if my USB connection fails all the time.

No you don't need HTC Sync. Sounds like you've USB-bricked the phone. You could try extracting out the PB99IMG.zip from the RUU and flash it that way but as you can't see what you're doing it's hard

And how can i see which HBOOT i got? Just want to check regarding to this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748498

Haven't a clue, doens't matter as the RUU I posted is the newest one so will work regardless

Oh, okay.
Well i'm trying to flash PB99IMG now. I'm just hoping im doing it right allthough i can't see anything.
I'm doing as following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucBs9RVGL0w

You don't flash it like a custom ROM. You get the PB99IMG.zip from the ROM, copy it to the root of the SD card and then turn on into HBOOT. The phone will then find it and ask if you want to flash it - say yes and that's it!

Oh okay. Just from the ROM you've linked to me?
And can you remember how to say yes, just power button?

Normally it says press up for to continue but I can't remember off the top of my head
EDIT: Yep, volume up to start

Thanks mate, i'll keep on trying various of thing.

[Q] G2 won't power on! Please assist!

Hello fellow G2 users.. my G2 phone won't turn on ... I had it rooted for a few months running Sense 2.1 and 3.0 roms then last night I tried going back to stock because the roms kept freezing and causing all sort of problems.. wifi failure, fc prompts.. ok, I had hboot for the desire z then I tired going back to hboot for the g2 ever sense then the phone refuses to turn on and there's only a orange light flashing and sometimes stays still.. please help.. I don't know what to do.. when I try loading boot loader volume down and power nothing happens..

I'm not an ace but bootloader should work, how long are you holding the power button? Does plugging it charge it? Is the battery dead, it have you pulled it? Does ADB see the phone at all? Have you checked the guide you were following?

30 seconds.. I held the power button for 30 seconds it worked before.. now it's not turning on or going into boot loader. . when plugged in it flashes orange.. I pulled the battery out and put it back in and nothing happens just keeps flashing orange.. my computer doesn't' recognize the phone anymore.. I don't know what's going on..

30 second with and without holding down the volume down button? Weird, no flicker on the screen or anything? Sounds like a possible brick, anyone else have any ideas?

Sound like you need a new phone.. coz if you hold down power button and down volume for 30 second it should boot up. If not your phone might brick.
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What exactly did you do to restore the G2 hboot? Am I reading this correctly that this is exactly when it wouldn't turn on?

a friend of mine tried loading hboot from eng-hboot.. still there's no way it would brick the phone!!.. I don't know what else to do. my computer can't recognize the phone anymore.. I'm trying to use adb reboot-bootloader.. but it says device not found..

Norm23 said:
a friend of mine tried loading hboot from eng-hboot.. still there's no way it would brick the phone!!.. I don't know what else to do. my computer can't recognize the phone anymore.. I'm trying to use adb reboot-bootloader.. but it says device not found..
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Flashing hboot is a potential way to brick the phone. Flashing recoveries and roms is relatively safe (recoverable), but if you flash a bad copy of hboot, then I think JTAG is your last option.
Do you know exactly what your friend flashed? md5 hash, file name, which fastboot command?

I'm not sure what the file name is called I'll have to ask him. What is JTAG?

PM me if you need help with this I can bring it back from the dead ...
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PM me if you need help with this I can bring it back from the dead
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I am happy that we have someone around with these capabilities, but please get your website working correctly.
Every time I go there and click on a link, it takes like 2 or 3 minutes to come in, rather than fractions of a second - and it seems to do this no matter where I access it, whether home computer, work computer, public wifi or smartphone.....
Not having trouble with any other websites, so might wanna get that fixed

When you connect the charger to the phone if it flashes orange it means it needs battery to boot up wait for about 10 minutes and then try to turn it on with the charger still connected
If it doesn't boot up you have a serious brick

[Q] messed up DHD :(

Hello Guys....
i have a really bad situation and i think it might get worse, i got my phone few weeks ago and it was running 2.3.3 later i got the OTA update to 2.3.5
then i wanted to root and found that the best tool is AAHK i downloaded and ran it and it asked for downgrade since my version is 3.13.415 and i agreed.. at the end of the process where it should update and i should hit "power to restart" didn't come up, thought there was nothing working and the menu just was still, so i tried to restart it from the menu. so i got the htc logo and it just froze there i tried to restart over and over again, yet no luck and i noticed the s-on thing and googled alot and found that i should flash a stock rom to get it running so i went to site called shipped roms and got one and tried to install it, but the installer said the rom isn't compatible or somethin....and i remmebered getting one from another rooting guied so i tried flashing it and it worked, but it took about 15 minutes for the device to boot up and the first vibe took about 10 minutes to finish but eventually it worked and the version i got on the phone was 2.2 but without arabic language "something i want" but it was okay, now i was a bit curios about the AAHK menu so i started it and it just started working :$ :S that's something i didn't want to happen but i was scared to pull the cable and it restarted to the "black screen with htc logo" and the tool saying "INFOsignature checking"...
sooooo is there any ideas about what can and should i do, how can i make everything back to normal or anythin
please make it fast, i really can't wait any longer
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After about 20 minutes of waiting i had no nerve left for waiting so now i took the usb cable and took the battery out and re installed it and hit power and while i'm writing the update it's viberating and it just stopped and waiting for the "quitly briliant" hope it works
it did (sorry if i nag to much and keep updating with every second)
now guys i really don't want to root or s-off or anythin... i just want to get my DHD fully up and ruunin
will the OTA update fix everything (the boot-up thing ?) and i want to get arabic language installed-how to do that
please help me
thx

hello guys...
since no one replied to my post, and i'm not that patient (not blaming anyone thought)
i do want to help others and i just can't keep asking.. so i'm trying it my self and in the mean time i've hit update and the phone shut off and took it's time to start up, as usual and now i'm looking at the update screen(black background with update loge and progress bar) and now it just finished and the screen went fully black-waiting and it is taking its time-... i'll update as soon as i get anythin
wish me good

SpiritStealer said:
hello guys...
since no one replied to my post, and i'm not that patient (not blaming anyone thought)
i do want to help others and i just can't keep asking.. so i'm trying it my self and in the mean time i've hit update and the phone shut off and took it's time to start up, as usual and now i'm looking at the update screen(black background with update loge and progress bar) and now it just finished and the screen went fully black-waiting and it is taking its time-... i'll update as soon as i get anythin
wish me good
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Doing a software update on a rooted phone will only revert the ROM to stock one. Key is patience. There is NO WAY at all that AAHK would mess something up on its own. I know this for a fact since I have used it to root 8 other DHD's so far without any issues. If you are not sure how it works then read more. You probably pulled the usb out before AAHK finished proper the first time.
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djolebih said:
Doing a software update on a rooted phone will only revert the ROM to stock one. Key is patience. There is NO WAY at all that AAHK would mess something up on its own. I know this for a fact since I have used it to root 8 other DHD's so far without any issues. If you are not sure how it works then read more. You probably pulled the usb out before AAHK finished proper the first time.
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thx for ur reply
and about the AAHK actually it's not my thing in the mean time, now i just want my default DHD back (stock rom, arabic, normal boot-up)
as i said i was applying the update and now i'm stock at the updating screen (black background htc update logo with a phone under it)
i mentioned the progress bar before but it was (i think) about moving the update to the sd card
now after about hour or so i'm still stuck at the same update state, even when i removed the battery and restarted the phone i'm still back to the same screen with nothing more..... hope u can help me with anything that can make my phone boot-up again ( no matter what's the version-in the mean time-)
thx in advanced
sry for my english..

SpiritStealer said:
thx for ur reply
and about the AAHK actually it's not my thing in the mean time, now i just want my default DHD back (stock rom, arabic, normal boot-up)
as i said i was applying the update and now i'm stock at the updating screen (black background htc update logo with a phone under it)
i mentioned the progress bar before but it was (i think) about moving the update to the sd card
now after about hour or so i'm still stuck at the same update state, even when i removed the battery and restarted the phone i'm still back to the same screen with nothing more..... hope u can help me with anything that can make my phone boot-up again ( no matter what's the version-in the mean time-)
thx in advanced
sry for my english..
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Looks to me like you bricked your phone. Remove the battery for a few minutes and put it back in. Do NOT turn the phone on but instead hold down Volume down + Power and see if you can boot into Hboot. It should lead you to a white screen with skateboarding androids. Post here everything it says there.
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djolebih said:
Looks to me like you bricked your phone. Remove the battery for a few minutes and put it back in. Do NOT turn the phone on but instead hold down Volume down + Power and see if you can boot into Hboot. It should lead you to a white screen with skateboarding androids. Post here everything it says there.
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i'll try to get in there, but if i have a bricked phone... is there anyway to fix it(just give me a -yes/no- answer) for now.... i'll rebort as soon as i get into the hboot screen(hopefully)
btw i removed my sd card an out it in a card reader, and i couldn't access it, do u think it got anythin to do with it ??

If you are unable to enter hboot then sadly there is no return and your phone is gone. Hold down power + vol down for as long as it takes until it hopefully takes you into hboot.
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mmmmmmmm, for the SD card i was able to get back in
and i tried to enter the hboot(but my finger slipet for split second) and i'll try againg
but on the other hand... don't u think that since i'm getting to the update screen that there might be a slice of hope for me ??

mmmmmmmm, for the SD card i was able to get back in
and i tried to enter the hboot(but my finger slipet for split second) and i'll try againg
but on the other hand... don't u think that since i'm getting to the update screen that there might be a slice of hope for me ??

Not if its constantly stuck on the update screen without any progress. Do as I said, boot into hboot holding power + vol down keys until it boots. Write what it says there. If you can't get into hboot... Game over.
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hmmmmmmmm
i dont really think that i'm able to get into hboot anymore, i'll keep trying thought
do u recommend (sd card in/out- cable in/out) or anything u can think of
and please give me some hope anythin would be great in the mean time.... really disprate

SpiritStealer said:
hmmmmmmmm
i dont really think that i'm able to get into hboot anymore, i'll keep trying thought
do u recommend (sd card in/out- cable in/out) or anything u can think of
and please give me some hope anythin would be great in the mean time.... really disprate
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As I said before, if you can't boot into hboot then sorry but I don't know of any other solution. Maybe someone else can provide better explanation, but as far as I know, if you are constantly stuck on update screen and if you can't get into hboot at all then nothing else can be done.

djolebih said:
As I said before, if you can't boot into hboot then sorry but I don't know of any other solution. Maybe someone else can provide better explanation, but as far as I know, if you are constantly stuck on update screen and if you can't get into hboot at all then nothing else can be done.
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i found something called hard reset -i'll give it a try- do u think that it might help ? (hope it does)
this is how i found it's done.....
1) Firstly you have to turn off your device and after that hold the volume + and volume – button together.
2) Continue pressing both the buttons and after sometime hold the power button for some time.
3) Once you have pressed the three buttons you will get the message about the change in the factory settings and also to keep a backup of the data.
4) After the message is displayed leave all the buttons then press the volume + button to start with the hard reset operation.
5) After doing this the reset operation will be carried out and all the data will be permanently removed.
do u have any info about it ???

SpiritStealer said:
i found something called hard reset -i'll give it a try- do u think that it might help ? (hope it does)
this is how i found it's done.....
1) Firstly you have to turn off your device and after that hold the volume + and volume – button together.
2) Continue pressing both the buttons and after sometime hold the power button for some time.
3) Once you have pressed the three buttons you will get the message about the change in the factory settings and also to keep a backup of the data.
4) After the message is displayed leave all the buttons then press the volume + button to start with the hard reset operation.
5) After doing this the reset operation will be carried out and all the data will be permanently removed.
do u have any info about it ???
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The only option of Factory Reset I know of is through hboot. And if you cant boot there then I really can't help you.
Are you sure you did it properly? Turn the phone off, remove battery for a few minutes, put it back in. Then Press POWER + VOLUME DOWN and hold for about 10-15 seconds. That should take you into hboot and from there you can see if your phone is S-OFF and do a factory reset.

I think that you are to nervous now
just pull out the battery, put it back in..
hold VOL - (minus, down) and press the power for about 3-4 sec, than release only power button.
if that don't get you to white hboot screen than nicely take the phone to your dealer and ask for waranty.. tell them that it got stuck on OTA update

Thanx Lord.

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The only option of Factory Reset I know of is through hboot. And if you cant boot there then I really can't help you.
Are you sure you did it properly? Turn the phone off, remove battery for a few minutes, put it back in. Then Press POWER + VOLUME DOWN and hold for about 10-15 seconds. That should take you into hboot and from there you can see if your phone is S-OFF and do a factory reset.
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the main problem that stopping me the most is the long time that the phone takes to boot up, i mean that if i try to start the phone it will take about 10 minutes to get to the update screen where it stops there
so holding them for 15 seconds is somethin that i think will do me no good result or actually no result at all ..... do u recommend pluging the usb in/out or anythin like that..... i know that i'm asking to much from you, but please bear with me and should i move the thread to another section in this case so i can get more help.....
please stick with me a little
really thx for your help

no use of plugging/unplugging the phone...
just do what I've posted above

SpiritStealer said:
the main problem that stopping me the most is the long time that the phone takes to boot up, i mean that if i try to start the phone it will take about 10 minutes to get to the update screen where it stops there
so holding them for 15 seconds is somethin that i think will do me no good result or actually no result at all ..... do u recommend pluging the usb in/out or anythin like that..... i know that i'm asking to much from you, but please bear with me and should i move the thread to another section in this case so i can get more help.....
please stick with me a little
really thx for your help
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There is no point in connecting usb or anything else to the phone. Do as both Lord and I have said and write down what it says in the hboot once you get in. Booting into hboot is not the same as normal boot. Don't try to act smarter then people that are trying to help you.
Edit: Don't move the thread.

ok guys, trying it and really thx...i'll report as soon as i get anything

bricked? DHD vibrates 3 times than flashes led

well **** me....
I just wanted to reboot my DHD and now i have thi outcome
Vibrates 3 times flashes orange lede no reaction anyhow
when ich charg it the lede lights up normaly but in intervals its flashing green orange green orrange than permanently again
Was on Blackice rom lightly OC´ed to 1.3 ghz
Well how ****ed am ? there is waranty left but when it´s the platine can thay notice that it was rooted anyhow?
thnx mates
Darkmind

Have you tried to boot into recover by power + volume down?

U hv gone in a different mode i dnt remember whts it called but it happens whn u press volume up and power button. Try taking out the battery n c if it boots..
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Muikkuman said:
Have you tried to boot into recover by power + volume down?
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adilrenzu said:
U hv gone in a different mode i dnt remember whts it called but it happens whn u press volume up and power button. Try taking out the battery n c if it boots..
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Xeleth said:
Pull out your battery for 2 minutes, put it back and try to boot. If that doesn't work then:
1) Power off your device (pulling out battery is the bulletproof way)
2) Press the volume-down button and hold it, then press the power button until you see a
white menu screen (bootloader)
3) Try to access recovery (navigate with volume-keys and powerbutton). If you cannot
access recovery then:
4) Download this file http://www.multiupload.com/BTJ8KY0KH9 and put it on your SD-card
root with an external memory card reader.
5) Boot to bootloader again and accept the installation
6) See if it works.
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like to do all of this but it dont boot into bootloader doesnt mater if i push volume up or down and power on either way it vibrates 3 times than flashes led.
still... is HTC able to detect a rooted device even if it dont boot? and if so can they deny the waranty

This has happened to me 2-3 times. I definitely think it was because the battery didn't have enough charge. Try charging it for a little time. Have patience.
If its not getting charged I think there might be some problem with your charger, charging cable, charging port or battery.

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This has happened to me 2-3 times. I definitely think it was because the battery didn't have enough charge. Try charging it for a little time. Have patience.
If its not getting charged I think there might be some problem with your charger, charging cable, charging port or battery.
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wll the battery was charged 100% just before that happened - and i tried another battery after this happend - because i was about to install a new rom. so it checks aut that when i try to hboot that its vibrates 7 times than flashes green led (when vol down + power) when i start normaly or when i try to vol up + power its vibrates 3 times
and flashes a orange led ( normaly it would be red but i was on blackice mod)
i have varanty left on that thing and it was rooted s-off when i send it in are they able to see this?
and could they deny varannty?
it was only slightly oc´ed to 1.3 instead of 1 ghz thera was chainfire installed too
Windows 7 trys to recognice the device when i plug it in per usb but cant find the right driver.
thanks for the ideas

Darkmind82 said:
wll the battery was charged 100% just before that happened - and i tried another battery after this happend - because i was about to install a new rom. so it checks aut that when i try to hboot that its vibrates 7 times than flashes green led (when vol down + power) when i start normaly or when i try to vol up + power its vibrates 3 times
and flashes a orange led ( normaly it would be red but i was on blackice mod)
i have varanty left on that thing and it was rooted s-off when i send it in are they able to see this?
and could they deny varannty?
it was only slightly oc´ed to 1.3 instead of 1 ghz thera was chainfire installed too
Windows 7 trys to recognice the device when i plug it in per usb but cant find the right driver.
thanks for the ideas
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That's strange. When that happened to me it was fine when I charged up the battery.
Unfortunately, considering the fact that you can't even get into bootloader and that windows cant recognize your device I'd say you are pretty much bricked.
Do you get the splashscreen atleast? the one with the white HTC logo?
Are your volume keys working fine? I mean were they working fine before this happened?
Well I'm pretty sure that if they can't get to the bootloader, they have no way of knowing it was S-OFF. So they can't deny warranty in that case.
On the other hand, if the issue that caused this problem was indeed an issue that could've come only after someone S-OFF's then they might just deny it.
But I'm pretty sure you can fool them by maintaining that you don't know anything about how it happened.

Xeleth said:
Then download Android-SDK, open cmd, plug in your phone and type in "adb reboot bootloader".
See if that works.
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Nope. Wont work. The computer has to recognize it atleast. In anycase, adb works only after the mobile boots past the splashscreen. And I think he might have already be knowing about adb since he's flashing ROM's.

Xeleth said:
Then download Android-SDK, open cmd, plug in your phone and type in "adb reboot bootloader".
See if that works.
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see below :laugh:
if4ct0r said:
Nope. Wont work. The computer has to recognize it atleast. In anycase, adb works only after the mobile boots past the splashscreen. And I think he might have already be knowing about adb since he's flashing ROM's.
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thats the point ther is no splash screen at all. i think this is a great myth the comunity cant solve by now. i read this a bunch of times many post to the 3 vibrations on boot or 7 vibrations ther is suggested that the mainboard passed out but what coused this if so?
otherwise i saw post on peaople were able to fix this bug and therfore could be no mainboeard failure be possible right?
i still try to figure that out gonna make a pol thread in DHD general because i have some suspissions to this and i want to see if this checks out.
thanks anyway