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Brand new Evo 4g data speed problem.

Hi guys...
i usually lurk over at the hd2 forums as ive been running american droid on my hd2 with much satisfaction. finally decided to buy a native android phone and signed up with sprint. bought a evo 4g and an epic 4g.
firstly, let tell you guys that their coverage map is a joke! says that im well covered by 4g. i cant even get a signal while standing outside. pathetic.
anyway. my data speed out of the box was something like 10kbps download, it was horrible!! but oddly enough the epic was flying along at about 300kbps!!?? called customer support and they walked me through steps that didnt help at all. went to sprints repair store the next day, they danced the dance and finally concluded that the phone was defective after PRL updates, reboots, what all and to ask for a replacement. (bought it from amazon wireless).
while there i thought id ask for the MSL. lady asked why? said i knew of some very clever folks on the internet that may be able to help me out. she shrugged me off as if she knew better and although hesitant, gave the number to me.
i came home and did the "fix" as noted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922978
and now im getting speeds of 400-500 download.
so here comes the sticky question... is this slow data bug only a evo 4g problem or does it affect all sprint phones? (didnt affect the epic 4g)
should i ask for a replacement? is this a phone specific problem or a general evo 4g problem?
should i send int he evo 4g and settle for a 2nd epic 4g if its more reliable? (does come better kitted though... 16 gb memory card, a really decent pair of ear buds. i dont particularly care for hardware keyboard though)
appreciate any and all help guys.
regards,
asmd.

Welcome to the club of ****ty download speeds. No matter what prl I've tried or hack 3G and 4G(area related) are just jokes. The problem could be HTC related but I find it odd yet possible that your epic gets faster speeds. I also find it strange that they said the phone could be defective lol. If you're into changing roms like a madman then the evo will have more development than the epic(still a great phone). It would be your call if you would want to exchange it for another but I doubt getting a new one will help.
Epic does have better screen and gpu than the evo.

thanks for the reply... heres the odd thing though. they did the "caveman" speedtest by putting several evos from the store next to mine and hit enter in the borwser to make them load identical pages simultaneously and mine was the only one that sucked.
@ dirkyd3rk - so this slow download thing is a evo 4g problem then? (and doesnt affect the epic 4g?)

Crappy data speeds seem to be isolated incidents here. It happens to quite a few people but not enough for it to be a problem that we all possess. I myself get excellent 4g signal and I'm on the edge of a 4g spot and my 3g speed is moderately good (about what your epic gets, give or take).
If you fixed your 3g speeds on the Evo, then I suggest keeping that Evo. You've already fixed the problem, there's no need to go out and get another one that you might have to fix again.
I have a friend with an Epic and I still like the Evo more. The Epic has a better GPU and screen, but the Evo has WAY more developer support (here on XDA) and better features. He schools me on benchmarks, but I can run Gingerbread with 3 different kinds of sense (1.0, 2.1, 3.0/2.1 hybrid from Virus) and he can barely run stable Froyo. We've got so many stable Froyo roms, a flashaholic like myself has to flash multiple times a week to try them all.
Lastly, I've heard that Sprint service in heavily populated areas is rather sketchy. I live in a suburb and get great speeds, but downtown I can't keep a 4g signal to save my life and my 3g speeds blow ass. I couldn't even get a steady GPS reading to check into a place of foursquare. Left downtown and all was well again. If you still have the problem, go ahead and get the replacement (and make sure to remove any evidence that you did anything fun with it )
In the end it's up to you. The people over in the Epic forums are cool, but we here in the Evo forums are cooler lol.

thanks for the reply,
will toy with it and decide. getting a replacement is going to cost me nothing. may just try it and chooses from the two to keep.
been playing with the epic as well. it doesnt feel as robust in my hand. it may have a better processor, but not in any real world advantage. and the screen is real nice but a little too super saturated. i do like the black levels though. since i have both i can compare and contrast all day long.

asmd6230 said:
thanks for the reply,
will toy with it and decide. getting a replacement is going to cost me nothing. may just try it and chooses from the two to keep.
been playing with the epic as well. it doesnt feel as robust in my hand. it may have a better processor, but not in any real world advantage. and the screen is real nice but a little too super saturated. i do like the black levels though. since i have both i can compare and contrast all day long.
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The epic is barely better in terms of specs but it has an amoled screen which is way better than the evo's. Me personally, I love my evo and couldn't imagine having another phone. My main problem with the epic is that it feels plastic as compared to the evo which feels solid. Maybe your phone could be defective I wouldn't be surprised based on the **** I've seen lol. I know you will make your own decision but I'd suggest the evo before anything else from sprint's lineup.

btw which one has a better battery life?

asmd6230 said:
btw which one has a better battery life?
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I've heard the epic does but it all depends on how one uses their phone. I get about 11 hours a day but I'm a very HEAVY user. Others on the forums can get anywhere from 15 hrs to about 32 hrs.

dirkyd3rk said:
I've heard the epic does but it all depends on how one uses their phone. I get about 11 hours a day but I'm a very HEAVY user. Others on the forums can get anywhere from 15 hrs to about 32 hrs.
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With the right kernel/rom combo you can actually get extremely good battery life.
With a normal day's use (a couple hundred texts, a couple phone calls, etc), I've gotten results like this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/absolutzerogi/5635211381/
That's MikFroYo 4.61 with Netarchy's 4.3.4 SBC-CFS-Havs-More kernel.

dirkyd3rk said:
I've heard the epic does but it all depends on how one uses their phone. I get about 11 hours a day but I'm a very HEAVY user. Others on the forums can get anywhere from 15 hrs to about 32 hrs.
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thanks for the replies mate.
if im understanbding this right, only some but not all evo 4g have the data speed problem and its correctable with the fix i did (although not permanent and has to be redone on occasion)
and here i was thinking i could walk away from the hd2 to its sexier twin without hassles. ha ha....
yeah, will probably stick with the evo 4g. 3d doesnt bother me, and super amoled is not a deal breaker for me. its a nice screen but its not that much nicer.
ive noticed that the epic suspends 4g when not in use as seen int he "Zzzz" symbol, does the evo 4g do this as well.. ive yet to see it.

asmd6230 said:
thanks for the replies mate.
if im understanbding this right, only some but not all evo 4g have the data speed problem and its correctable with the fix i did (although not permanent and has to be redone on occasion)
and here i was thinking i could walk away from the hd2 to its sexier twin without hassles. ha ha....
yeah, will probably stick with the evo 4g. 3d doesnt bother me, and super amoled is not a deal breaker for me. its a nice screen but its not that much nicer.
ive noticed that the epic suspends 4g when not in use as seen int he "Zzzz" symbol, does the evo 4g do this as well.. ive yet to see it.
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Nope lol, the evo 4G signal will continue to scan and drain your battery if you don't turn it off. You can thank HTC for that

Should I get SGII epic 4G Touch or Motorola Photon?

I was very interested in what the Motorola photon till the guy at Sprint HIGHLY reccomended the SGII Epic 4G Touch. Told me about all the features of guild phone which caught my attention. I also watched a 14 min vid from wirefly smackdown on the photon vs epic 4G touch.
One thing I was concerned about was the resolution being lower. Also rather like the kickstand idea from the EVO, but saw there was cases that have kickstands for the epic 4G touch. I'm asking from people who have owned the phone for a while, is it a good choice to get or should I stick to getting the photon?
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kyhassen said:
I was very interested in what the Motorola photon till the guy at Sprint HIGHLY reccomended the SGII Epic 4G Touch. Told me about all the features of guild phone which caught my attention. I also watched a 14 min vid from wirefly smackdown on the photon vs epic 4G touch.
One thing I was concerned about was the resolution being lower. Also rather like the kickstand idea from the EVO, but saw there was cases that have kickstands for the epic 4G touch. I'm asking from people who have owned the phone for a while, is it a good choice to get or should I stick to getting the photon?
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Best phone I've had. The only rant is the LoS every now and then. I prefer the smaller resolution because it's just easier. Bigger icons are better (at least for myself).
I messed with the Photon and it's a nice phone, but something that kept me far away from it was the lack of development.

I came from a Motorola atrix from att and I can say I missed Samsung. Phonton isn't a good the ept4g screen is amazing. Battery is OK better stuff is yet to come. Join us get the Epic 4g touch
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Like you, I considered both and haven't regretted my decision to go with the ET4G. The screen is amazing. The phone is faster than anything I've used. I doubt you'll regret it.
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Had the Photon for a month and have had the Epic 4G Touch for a month. While the Photon is an excellent phone it has serious issues with random rebooting and no audio on calls. It seems for for unexplained reasons the software just goes haywire and you have to do a battery pull. Some Best Buys reported 100% return rate when the phone first came out due to issue with no audio and rebooting. The radio is very strong, much better than the Sammy. The UI is not very good, you will need to switch to LauncherPro to make it acceptable. Thicker and heavier that the Sammy. Neither are great with the battery due to the nature of Android. As for the Epic 4 G Touch the radio is weaker. While people report loss of signal I have never had it. Very slim and lighter. Great all around phone with no issues on the calls. Like everything about it.
My suggestion would be the Epic 4 G Touch.

The SGS2 is a beast! I think you can't go wrong with either phone but I would say Sammy all the way. The screen blows away the qhd display of the EVO 3d I owned so I wouldn't be concerned about the resolution.
I know the a lot of people also like the Photon but I have not used it nor have any intention of even looking at it.

When it comes to tv and computer monitors I am an HD snob. I simply want the highest screen resolutions. Naturally I shopped around for a new phone using the same mindset. That was until I experienced the Super Amoled Plus screen. I finally realized how much of an impact contrast ratio is to the clarity of the screen. Deep blacks make every color on the screen pop. I watch Netflix on my phone in bed and I am blown away at the quality of the picture.
So in my opinion if you are trying to make resolution of the screen your deal breaker, you should go and spend some time with both phones and see for yourself.
Plus our phone simply have the fastest processor on the market. Without hardware acceleration my phone still don't experience any lag. Now with ICS coming out and hardware acceleration on just imagine how much more smoother our phone will be.

I'm an IT Manager for my company, our help desk gets more calls about Motorola Droids then anything else. I will never own a Motorola Android. I will admit the new Razor is tempting. For myself, I like Android but I think it is a little to complicated for the average corporate user. They just want something quick, easy and that works.
FYI, we get the least amount of calls over Iphones. I'm tempted to make the Iphone our officially supported phone. I don't think I want to get into Android or WP7 polices.

gedster314 said:
I'm an IT Manager for my company, our help desk gets more calls about Motorola Droids then anything else. I will never own a Motorola Android. I will admit the new Razor is tempting. For myself, I like Android but I think it is a little to complicated for the average corporate user. They just want something quick, easy and that works.
FYI, we get the least amount of calls over Iphones. I'm tempted to make the Iphone our officially supported phone. I don't think I want to get into Android or WP7 polices.
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What is your company's officially supported phone now?

My answer to the question, plus my Android history for some perspective.
I had the Photon briefly, exchanged for the Epic4GT and would never go back to the Photon.
-First Android was Sprint Hero. Was almost immediately outdated, but I liked it.
-This Aug was time for upgrade, Photon had just come out, didnt like how it looked, got the EVO4G. Really liked it compared to the outdated Hero, but the thing was HUGE, heavy, and battery didn't last long. The camera was 100000x better than the Hero.
-2 weeks later, after reading a couple reviews, (and hating the bulk of the EVO), exchanged it for the Photon. Immediately hated it. Hated the display - "artificial" is the only word I can think to describe it. The camera is horrible - about the same as my original Hero. I also really hated the UI.
Then the GSII was announced for Sprint. I held onto the Photon - hating every second of it - and the very last day of my 30day return policy was the drop day for the E4GT. Got it. LOVE it.
The size is perfect. Biggest screen out there (kinda), but the phone doesn't feel too big. It's not a BRICK like the EVO. It's thin and light. And the display size is great. Odd looking at a tiny iPhone display after this. Display quality is amazing. The camera is at the top - rating about even or better than the best out there. Battery has great life.
Not only is the E4GT the best phone at SPRINT right now, it's hard to beat it anywhere. For now. That all changes quick. But if you need to buy a phone right now, and you want the best from Sprint the Epic4GT is it.
(Sorry for a long first post, but this is a topic I just lived through.)

I had evo3d and photon before et4g. Et4g hands down.
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DevonSloan said:
My answer to the question, plus my Android history for some perspective.
I had the Photon briefly, exchanged for the Epic4GT and would never go back to the Photon.
-First Android was Sprint Hero. Was almost immediately outdated, but I liked it.
-This Aug was time for upgrade, Photon had just come out, didnt like how it looked, got the EVO4G. Really liked it compared to the outdated Hero, but the thing was HUGE, heavy, and battery didn't last long. The camera was 100000x better than the Hero.
-2 weeks later, after reading a couple reviews, (and hating the bulk of the EVO), exchanged it for the Photon. Immediately hated it. Hated the display - "artificial" is the only word I can think to describe it. The camera is horrible - about the same as my original Hero. I also really hated the UI.
Then the GSII was announced for Sprint. I held onto the Photon - hating every second of it - and the very last day of my 30day return policy was the drop day for the E4GT. Got it. LOVE it.
The size is perfect. Biggest screen out there (kinda), but the phone doesn't feel too big. It's not a BRICK like the EVO. It's thin and light. And the display size is great. Odd looking at a tiny iPhone display after this. Display quality is amazing. The camera is at the top - rating about even or better than the best out there. Battery has great life.
Not only is the E4GT the best phone at SPRINT right now, it's hard to beat it anywhere. For now. That all changes quick. But if you need to buy a phone right now, and you want the best from Sprint the Epic4GT is it.
(Sorry for a long first post, but this is a topic I just lived through.)
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Wow thank you for all the information you gave, that is def a deal breaker for me
Also to everyone else who posted, thank you all for the replies, I'm def going for the epic 4g touch now. Just need to find a decent case, which, doesn't happen till Nov from what i hear.
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I'm still on the fence about getting the ET4G. I keep reading about LOS this and poor wi-fi signal that. Coming from an OG Epic some here can understand my apprehension, I would like to see if an update by the end of the year will come through. My ultimate plan is to pick one up through Craigslist just to hold on to my upgrade because I'm holding on to hope that Sprint gets the Nexus early next year.

I have an Epic 4G Touch that has not been rooted yet and I am yet to get an los on it. No issues with wifi or anything else for that matter.
Can keep 4G on all day while at work with about 1.5 hours of on screen time after 9 hours and come home with over 50% battery left. Compared to the EVO 4g and 3d, that is pretty damn impressive!

kyhassen said:
Wow thank you for all the information you gave, that is def a deal breaker for me
Also to everyone else who posted, thank you all for the replies, I'm def going for the epic 4g touch now. Just need to find a decent case, which, doesn't happen till Nov from what i hear.
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If you want an awesome case check out the Case-mate tough case. It's available now and it kicks ass.

kyhassen said:
Wow thank you for all the information you gave...
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Just need to find a decent case, which, doesn't happen till Nov from what i hear.
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No prob - hope it helped. As for the case, I have the Carbon Fiber texture Kickstand Cover from Sprint, and I think it's great. I've never liked hard cases before this - always too much bulk. I've always gotten silicone cases, which I have liked a lot for drop protection, but they gather a lot of dust. This case adds minimal bulk and looks great. People cant believe how small/thin the phone is, and that's before they realize it's in a case. Take it out and they are even more amazed. Took pics, will post soon.
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I keep reading about LOS this and poor wi-fi signal that.
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I've read so much about this, but haven't experienced either problem. I was even going to jump on board the Sprint refund/credit bandwagon, just because I'm sure I could get away with it, but I haven't had the problem, so I'm not going to. I had had about 4 random reboots in the month I've had it, but it hasn't been a problem. (I just heard it rebooting in the other room.)

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No prob - hope it helped. As for the case, I have the Carbon Fiber texture Kickstand Cover from Sprint, and I think it's great. I've never liked hard cases before this - always too much bulk. I've always gotten silicone cases, which I have liked a lot for drop protection, but they gather a lot of dust. This case adds minimal bulk and looks great. People cant believe how small/thin the phone is, and that's before they realize it's in a case. Take it out and they are even more amazed. Took pics, will post soon.
I've read so much about this, but haven't experienced either problem. I was even going to jump on board the Sprint refund/credit bandwagon, just because I'm sure I could get away with it, but I haven't had the problem, so I'm not going to. I had had about 4 random reboots in the month I've had it, but it hasn't been a problem. (I just heard it rebooting in the other room.)
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The reboot could be caused by an app you are running. Are you running Juicy Defender or something like that? I know that has been an app that causes reboots.

m3ng said:
I had evo3d and photon before et4g. Et4g hands down.
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Same line up with me and I completely agree.

phatmanxxl said:
Same line up with me and I completely agree.
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Lol. I had the 3D. Phatman and Nate can confirm this.
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worldwidepmp said:
I'm still on the fence about getting the ET4G. I keep reading about LOS this and poor wi-fi signal that. Coming from an OG Epic some here can understand my apprehension, I would like to see if an update by the end of the year will come through. My ultimate plan is to pick one up through Craigslist just to hold on to my upgrade because I'm holding on to hope that Sprint gets the Nexus early next year.
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I have rooted mine and previous to rooting and currently I have never had the los issue .. guess its some batches of phones and others are fine.. but my wife has photon and I took evo 3d back and got et4g and its hands down the best!! I've compared my wife's photon and this epic touch many a times ..
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The Photon and back, my personal experience.

I bought into the whole "Samsung radios suck" thing. I have a Photon in hand, and the bottom line is that its performing in nearly the exact same manner as the E4GT as far as reception. Im looking at the numbers, and Im not really impressed. Consider some dead areas which I attributed to the E4GT's "bad radio"....I still cannot pull data with the Photon. The Photon may have slightly better reception - but in real world applications, I dont think it warrents switching units.
So if Im not getting better reception, what am I getting? A smaller screen, terrible ergonomics (button placement, usb input placement), locked boot loader (broken 4G if unlock), quiet dev forum, some lag here and there in the menus, oh and yes the sleep of death! Not to mention the latest OTA is perpetually failing to install. The camera isnt close to as good as the touch either.
What I do like: I wish the E4GT had a kickstand. I also like the high res of the Photon's screen, looks very crisp. The BLUR SMS is also better than Touchwiz too, if you ask me.
I dont know....The Photon isnt really a terrible phone. But, consider my statements before you jump ship. I am going to have Sprint switch my service back to my E4GT. I understand that the E4GT has issues, and Samsung does too....but using both of these phones back to back I just cant let go of the touch.
Thoughts?

I agree with you more or less, and yea the higher res on the photon would have been great on the touch. The screen on the touch is nicer for scrolling, but the whites are not white, they are an off white as to the photon's white was a bright clear white.
reception, I feel both are about the same with the photon tending to "hold" the signal a bit better. The touches signal bar is misleading but so far my call ability has been decent, but not photon decent.
My main reason for switching was the photon I had would clock up the cell radio and no way to recover till a reboot was performed. It was so bad that it happened several times a day. Missed tons of calls and txt and decided enough was enough. So here I am sporting the SGS2 and I must admit the screen res and whiteness is the only thing that I can pick on so far.

The OTA will fail if you've any changes to the system files. That what sucks with the Motor updates.
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its sprints service that sucks, the phones are fine.

lafester said:
its sprints service that sucks, the phones are fine.
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^^ fully agree!!!!

I will tell you, I had photon for a month, then
E4GT since launch and the radios on everything work better, even bluetooth.
I did a shoot out with my buddies photon same area, I had much better throughput than his. Calls just as clear. Gps works better cause on the photon the market got offtrack while ET4G didn't, plus speed and reception of gps it won.
So I don't give into that 'better radio' hype
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.

hayabusa1300cc said:
I will tell you, I had photon for a month, then
E4GT since launch and the radios on everything work better, even bluetooth.
I did a shoot out with my buddies photon same area, I had much better throughput than his. Calls just as clear. Gps works better cause on the photon the market got offtrack while ET4G didn't, plus speed and reception of gps it won.
So I don't give into that 'better radio' hype
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
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its a 50/50 and depends on your location as well..

I still thinking Samy cdma radios sucks, just look the past with samsung moment, epic, nexus s 4G and ET4G bc it has a radio problems too. And to make the things worst, how slow is samsung to fix problems.

dmora01 said:
I still thinking Samy cdma radios sucks, just look the past with samsung moment, epic, nexus s 4G and ET4G bc it has a radio problems too. And to make the things worst, how slow is samsung to fix problems.
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true they are slow, but nothing we can do about it.

lafester said:
its sprints service that sucks, the phones are fine.
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after a slight adventure out in to the world of mobile providers before coming back to sprint i think i have to agree with this.
i found at&t and verizon are too expensive and t-mobile seems to be almost non-existent. so you have sprint in that sweet middle spot amassing people exponentially.
i have also learned that almost all prepaid carriers android phones run on sprint towers? crazy right? if you ever wondered why you don't get amazing speeds, this could be a reason. they whore their towers out to pretty much everyone.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...ost-iphone-launch-45-pages-of-complaints-bad/

cdszoke said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...ost-iphone-launch-45-pages-of-complaints-bad/
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lol.
*shakes angry fist at apple*
"siri, can you please get off my network??"

SpaceMonky said:
lol.
*shakes angry fist at apple*
"siri, can you please get off my network??"
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lmao
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[Q] e4gt now of evo lte in one month?

coming from a hero. want your thoughts on if I should get the e4gt tomorrow or wait a month for the evo lte?
The LTE would be more useful later, the WIMAX more useful now. I guess this is the biggest factor.
Size and Weight seem similar. Screen resolution better on evo lte, processors about equal?
I was thinking about the galaxy nexus, but i dont think this will be out until much later.

Wait a month if you like the evo we all can't wait for lte I myself am waitingfor the s3

So much happier with my galaxy over my evo and nexus. I am going to trap the sg3 or whatever it is when it gets to sprint. Not going to bother with lte as that is so far away for any real usage anywhere decent. Definately like HTC just wish they made a phone that wasn't so freaking heavy.

Why do you want the Evo LTE or why do you want Epic touch? Answer that and it will answer your questions... which phone do you want to still have in 2014. Where do you live and is there 4g or not, is it coming to your hood and do you really need it. Answer that and it will answer YOUR questions.
I know you asked others but too me if you do your research its only you that can decide what's best for you... Either phone you wont be losing out
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I like the weight of the e4gt -- I was very surprised to see the evo lte is only 4grams heavier, which is making me think more about it.
How does ICS run on the rooted e4gt? Is there anything bad about the e4gt? and will lte really take that long to roll out? i'll be living in SLC or Bay Area in 6 months
In my 60 seconds of using the e4gt it seems like the icons and menus are too big... which makes me think having the high res screen is better. is this a fair assessment?

playya said:
Why do you want the Evo LTE or why do you want Epic touch? Answer that and it will answer your questions... which phone do you want to still have in 2014. Where do you live and is there 4g or not, is it coming to your hood and do you really need it. Answer that and it will answer YOUR questions.
I know you asked others but too me if you do your research its only you that can decide what's best for you... Either phone you wont be losing out
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Agreed. Depending on your area, you could be 4G-less for a while if you go with the new Evo. If you don't have wimax where you're at or where you're going, you might as well wait for the new Evo.
I'm assuming you rate an upgrade with Sprint? If you're buying without renewing your contract, you should consider just buying something used.

I'm interested in the galaxy s3 and journal

mrtimo said:
coming from a hero. want your thoughts on if I should get the e4gt tomorrow or wait a month for the evo lte?
The LTE would be more useful later, the WIMAX more useful now. I guess this is the biggest factor.
Size and Weight seem similar. Screen resolution better on evo lte, processors about equal?
I was thinking about the galaxy nexus, but i dont think this will be out until much later.
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I'll pretty much just reiterate what others have said; First check 4G (Wimax) coverage for your area. If you do not get WiMax, you should probably wait for LTE.
There are other options, if you want an LTE device, the Galaxy Nexus is a true ICS experience, but the EVO has better specs. If you want to save some money the LG Viper isn't a bad choice either. However, I'd say both the EVO and the GN have a more lasting appeal.
While I love my Epic and will not upgrade to anything but a GSIII; I wouldn't blame you for waiting for the EVO.

Seriously, WAIT. Why even ask? Newer phone in EVERY way.

EVO LTE...trust me!

any word on the camera on the EVO LTE?
Epic camera seems tough to beat

mrtimo said:
any word on the camera on the EVO LTE?
Epic camera seems tough to beat
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Look at the review videos I think the evo wins on camera it has zero shutter lag

I would definitely wait for the new evo or gs3. Never used the gs2 myself though.

If I was going to be stuck with a phone for two years you better believe it would be LTE, who knows how long sprint will leave the wimax switch on.

Gordon Ramsay said:
If I was going to be stuck with a phone for two years you better believe it would be LTE, who knows how long sprint will leave the wimax switch on.
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2015+

master acehole said:
Look at the review videos I think the evo wins on camera it has zero shutter lag
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galaxy nexus has zero shutter lag and the camera still sucks. I dont trust htc, they always have crappy cameras. epic touch is one of the best phone cameras out now

mrtimo said:
any word on the camera on the EVO LTE?
Epic camera seems tough to beat
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I took a ton of pictures when I was at the event last week, and was impressed with the camera. First time I've actually looked at another device for the camera.

Just a minor sticking point, you won't get the EVO in a month that's just when you can start pre-ordering them. To my knowledge they still haven't released the actual date when the phone will be available.

Even though the et4g is a fantastic phone in every way, at this point in time the Evo would be a better bet due to superior specs and LTE support.
Better yet, wait a little longer for the SGSIII release date announcement and decide if you can wait that long. That phone will for sure be worth holding on to for 2 years.
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If you have wimax coverage where you live and where you are most of the time. Pretty dumb to get a phone (no matter how good it is) with wildly varying data speeds on 3g. If you don't have any wimax coverage and are in a major city / where sprint is slated to do their LTE expansion, by all means get it.
Point is. If you have wimax. Stick with E4GT for now since you' won't be getting LTE till later on (most likely 1+ years).

Htc evo lte

So, my mom is getting her upgrade in 2 weeks and I was thinking of giving her my gs3 and getting an evo. I like the build quality, screen, and camera, and its something new. I just wanted to know if anyone that owns an evo has any input on whether I should do this. Also, it'd be cool if you guys knew anything that makes this phone significantly superior to the evo (other than dev support)

Why dont you just post in the lte forums then...?
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CNexus said:
Why dont you just post in the lte forums then...?
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Exactly.
Though I've seen and played with the LTE, and basically an evo 4g on 'roids. I've seen more people leave the LTE to come to the G S III. Also, seen people have signal issue due to the aluminum chassis and backing.

CNexus said:
Why dont you just post in the lte forums then...?
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Because I don't want people just saying that the evo is God's gift to mankind when they can't compare it to a gs3

Lolanerd said:
Because I don't want people just saying that the evo is God's gift to mankind when they can't compare it to a gs3
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Well they would be able to give you specifics more than anyone here haha
And I'm pretty sure that not everyone is satisfied with it, seeing all the phones that are coming soon
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i came from the evoLTE to the GS3 and if I were you I would stick with the GS3 or get the note2.. or.. get the note2 and let me buy it from you and ill give you my GS3 plus cash .. Anyways the reason I stayed with the GS3 is because my EvoLTE had the bend problem. Like so many others have had. Also the kickstand always wanted to come unscrewed. Plus the GS3 is just so much smoother, and the EvoLTE external speaker sucks compared to the GS3.
Of course I did like the phyical camera button on the EvoLTE. Plus the screen was beautiful. But like I said before.. The build quality might look better in person. But if you put the two against each other head to head the GS3 will come out on top because plastic is always more giving.

I actually just came from the lte, great phone but doesnt compare to the GSIII, which really surprised me. I loved HTC devices after the original evo served me well, I moved onto the Epic touch and it was a terrible experience for me, gps and location services were soooooo bad with that phone, it made me swear off ever owning another Samsung device. I ended up getting the evo lte in August, which I promptly rooted (biggest pain in the a$$) well the screen starting going whack few weeks ago, returned it to Best Buy and because they didnt have any evos they replaced it with a GSIII, I was and still am blown away by this device, Samsung has a beast on their hands with this thing!! imo the GSIII is a better device, and I was team HTC all the way until the day I got the GSIII

dont : i personally like evo lte more than s3 ( yeah i know : shoot me )
but evo lte always gave me great data speed and 0 signal loss .
but memory is low on that phone and htc is messing with users since jb update , making it freakin hard foe S-On folks.
my advise wait another month and see whats s4 is gonna be , or get a note 2 : ace phone

teh roxxorz said:
Exactly.
Though I've seen and played with the LTE, and basically an evo 4g on 'roids. I've seen more people leave the LTE to come to the G S III. Also, seen people have signal issue due to the aluminum chassis and backing.
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That's what I did. This phone has way better support and updates from Samsung. HTC is totally not caring about the development community. There kernel source for jelly bean isn't even out yet and the phone had had it for over a month
Anthraxed FreeGS3 @ 1.51 Ghz
Faster then your 2.1

Alright, I guess I have been convinced, thanks everyone.

Lolanerd said:
So, my mom is getting her upgrade in 2 weeks and I was thinking of giving her my gs3 and getting an evo. I like the build quality, screen, and camera, and its something new. I just wanted to know if anyone that owns an evo has any input on whether I should do this. Also, it'd be cool if you guys knew anything that makes this phone significantly superior to the evo (other than dev support)
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I can tell you the gs3 camera with ma6 kills the lte. Our screen is less sharp but colors are truer. Battery life on the Samsung's are better.
I've owned both and definitely prefer the lte
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I've owned both, I liked the lte camera more than the gs3's, but other than that I'm happy I switched to samsung.