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Press search and get YAHOO

LOL!!! How embarassing for Microsoft. There is a bug on WP7 with some carriers where if you press search, you get Yahoo, not Bing
I had to laugh!!
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...d9b-5650-4e58-bef4-3b27972a635c?prof=required

It's just O2 in the UK I beleive. I raised this last week when asking about customisations that carriers may have made, and appears to be intentional by O2. Though I get the impression Microsoft where not aware and may not be happy.

AceofSpades25 said:
LOL!!! How embarassing for Microsoft. There is a bug on WP7 with some carriers where if you press search, you get Yahoo, not Bing
I had to laugh!!
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...d9b-5650-4e58-bef4-3b27972a635c?prof=required
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It's the carrier, look at the Samsung Galaxy S on US Verizon - Fascinate - an Android phone, running Google services, yet you press search and Bing! you got.

Yeah, we all know what a crap carriers could load if it's on them. However that was one of the promises for Windows Phone 7 - no more bloatware. Now what are we seeing - the same s#it. For me pressing the search and bringing Yahoo, 360 (Orange users knows what I mean) or whatever is utterly annoying, especially there is not a way for changing that.

It has always been known (since the first leaked documents on WP7) that the carriers and the OEMs can, indeed, change some aspects of the phone.
However, they are VERY limited in what they're allowed to do. I didn't think they could change the search button, but I did know that they could change the default search provider within IE.
Casey

I'd love to change it to google... Bing just doesn't give me what i'm looking for... it's really terrible for me...

Well, I did not read every letter of the "early leaked" docs about WP7, however I did read something like the following on many different sources: Windows Phone 7: Bing only default search option . So now, when it is already known this isn't exactly true, I am quite disappointed. I like the idea about sameness user experience on every device, but I am afraid it is now somehow compromised with substitution of the default search in IE.

evilangelic said:
I'd love to change it to google... Bing just doesn't give me what i'm looking for... it's really terrible for me...
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For my job I need to use a search engine at least 5 times a day. I find Bing to be awesome! I find google to be so boring and depressing.
I would be really unhappy though if Yahoo came up every time I clicked search.
I guess your only choice is to click home first before search whenever in the browser

AceofSpades25 said:
For my job I need to use a search engine at least 5 times a day. I find Bing to be awesome! I find google to be so boring and depressing.
I would be really unhappy though if Yahoo came up every time I clicked search.
I guess your only choice is to click home first before search whenever in the browser
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I do have a live tile to google front page lol

Most carriers really irritate me. As if it wasn't enough to rip us off, and cap our broadband. They go and install their crap on our phones too!

I'm fairly confident that eventually we'll be able to flash generic WP7 ROMs to carrier-modified devices to avoid these stupid types of things. It'll be a while though, seeing as WP7 is brand new and not necessarily attractive to the usual breed of hardcore 6.1 / 6.5 modders and cooks on xda-developers.
For now, if I ever have to search while I'm in IE I'm first hitting the Start button and then Search.

Really, I hope users can do this themselves with ease, I am not a huge fan of Bing... Although it is a million times better than Yahoo xD.

AceofSpades25 said:
Most carriers really irritate me. As if it wasn't enough to rip us off, and cap our broadband. They go and install their crap on our phones too!
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Yeah.
I think carriers need to stop putting their rubbish on OUR phones. It would also be nice if they remove the internet caps too

On the HD2, when in Opera browser, you can type in the URL field opera:config and get access to a lot of the browser settings. Maybe there is something similar for ie on the HD7 to change the search engine????
Also that is not all O2 have changed. They have removed the option to use voice search when using bing. Normally you would hold the windows button down and say "find cash point" for example.
Even the people tab has been changed as when you click on a contact's address, you should be taken direct to the address on bing maps. Alas O2 decided to remove this feature too! That's THREE things thay have changed. Sucks

Boy i can imagine how much fun AT&T is going to have with the search button lol.

diego1985 said:
Boy i can imagine how much fun AT&T is going to have with the search button lol.
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AT&T has never been into those modifications, unlike Verizon. Mictosoft has taken care of the usual AT&T annoyances: their crappy preloaded modofied Opera Mini, TeleNav, MobiTV, and other associated bloatwares. WP7 doesn't sideload like droids so they don't have to worry about that. Captivate was actually decent, and they didn't do much to the Pre/Pixi.
I wouldn't expect any surprisrs, TBH.
Bing is a great search enging, though. I had it set as my homepage simce forever. Google even copied their image search UI. Bing Maps is good, as well.
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Microsoft should pull all of their phones from O2 for their Bull***t

N8ter said:
AT&T has never been into those modifications, unlike Verizon. Mictosoft has taken care of the usual AT&T annoyances: their crappy preloaded modofied Opera Mini, TeleNav, MobiTV, and other associated bloatwares. WP7 doesn't sideload like droids so they don't have to worry about that. Captivate was actually decent, and they didn't do much to the Pre/Pixi.
I wouldn't expect any surprisrs, TBH.
Bing is a great search enging, though. I had it set as my homepage simce forever. Google even copied their image search UI. Bing Maps is good, as well.
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Well that's a relief I guess, with all the garbage they loaded on my Samsung Jack win mo 6.5 im looking for a upgrade without all of that crapware.

I had a jack. Crapware on winmo never bothered me because the OS has supported installing applications to sd cards since forever... Like nearly a decade.
Just had to remap a couple buttons on the phone, that's about it.
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martoto said:
Well, I did not read every letter of the "early leaked" docs about WP7, however I did read something like the following on many different sources: Windows Phone 7: Bing only default search option . So now, when it is already known this isn't exactly true, I am quite disappointed. I like the idea about sameness user experience on every device, but I am afraid it is now somehow compromised with substitution of the default search in IE.
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Bing IS the only search option on the o2 HD7. You press search from almost anywhere and you get taken to the bing search app.
What o2 HAVE changed however, is if you press search from WITHIN IE you get Yahoo. This is within the browser only.

Who needs SIRI when we have IRIS :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfcfckILNHo
Guys here it is! Now you don't have to envy iphone 4s for having Siri. Now we have IRIS! Check it out! Already using it on my phone as my personal assistant and love it. And Iris sounds so much better than Siri, doesn't it?

And it was developed in 8 hours. [Read more...]

Doesn't work for me
Says "No speech input" when I launch it, and nothing happens when I touch the button.
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It says No Speech Input when I run it!

dyallo said:
It says No Speech Input when I run it!
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Make sure you've got 'Voice search' and 'TTS library' installed. If not, download them from the market...

Superb development, Megastar! It is such a great innovation!
For those who are having problems in installing Iris, you need to have Voice Search and TTS library installed in your phone for IRIS to work. Most of the phones have these pre-installed, if not get them from the Market.

Great app
App works as it said, but my damn data connection seems to be too slow, need to force close the app.

while i have to say, i appreciate the effort and an 8 hour development time is impressive, i feel i must mention a few things about this.
First of all, nothing useful was presented in the video, which makes it kinda hard, determining, whether or not it can meet people's individual needs.
2. the video was cut and chopped dozens of times, but when you present a new piece of software, shouldn't you put in the takes where it worked?
3. for people that are actually eager to use an app, comparable to siri right now, to piss off apple fanboys or for whatever reason, you can try pannous voice actions from the market.
it has the same concept as this and siri, it combines regular voice control with witty answers like cleverbot. you can actually use it to call, text, set reminders... or ask it stuff. ask about trivia, your horoscope, the weather, to tell you a poem or a joke or just chat with it.
just like iris, it requires google voice search to work. it is free, so give it a try, while iris still being developed.
with a little xda magic, iris could overtake voice actions and siri in a matter of weeks, in terms of functionality, comfort and success rate though, the devs here always come up with the best stuff
btw. here are a few videos to give you an idea of how pannous voice actions works:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pannous+voice+actions&aq=f

application is ok but ... Need more work. in any case,nice progress. Gj devs
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voice actions app is better.

You should check out their twitter. http://twitter.com/#!/irisTalks
Apparently it's going to become supersmart in 2 days. And they will be implimenting more features eventually. Can't ****ing wait!

Definitely NOT ready for prime time. But fun to use just for the crazy answers Iris comes up with

good work man.. i already tried it and i think Iris need more updates to compete with Siri. I hv to admit that Siri is more smarter..
Iris should be able to use in other countries!

In Danish,

Why don't you try speaktoit? Free and works incredible fanstastic!

well, Irirs has a long way to go to be anywhere near the Siri, or Voice Actions for that matter.
Actually Voice Actions works very smooth, i installed the latest version called "Jeannie" from the market, and i does all that Siri supposed to do.

Also download Ivons Text to speech engine.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ivona.tts&hl=en
it complements the iris system with a natrual voice. has to be the best TTS engine i have heard. check it out. also you will also need to download the appropiate voice file aswell which is around 200mb

Yes, I know there is a Jeannie also available in the market. But IRIS is going to be very intelligent soon. Lookout for updates on twitter : @IrisTalks

Siri like API available

I found an interesting place that had developed an api for developers to use that allows them to access their voice UI system. I think this would be great if someone implemented it into an app of some sort, and with the increasing access for developers into the phone, I think a siri like app for wp7 could be very possible.
Here is the site: http://www.zypr.net/

uncled1023 said:
I think a siri like app for wp7 could be very possible. http://www.zypr.net/
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Isn't Siri just a rip off of what Windows Phone 7 already does? I can do everything with my windows phone that the Siri commercials show and have been able to for some time.

Laquox said:
Isn't Siri just a rip off of what Windows Phone 7 already does? I can do everything with my windows phone that the Siri commercials show and have been able to for some time.
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Oh? So what happens when you say "When is my next appointment?"

LongZheng said:
Oh? So what happens when you say "When is my next appointment?"
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That is coming. I don't use appointments so my point still stands. I can ask weather, tell it to read text messages, etc which is what the commercials show.

Laquox said:
That is coming. I don't use appointments so my point still stands. I can ask weather, tell it to read text messages, etc which is what the commercials show.
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How do you ask the weather?

eried said:
How do you ask the weather?
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Hold Windows button "Weather Whatever City"
Also usable is "Open Weather Channel" but if you going for Siri like usage just say "Weather Whatever City" add the state if it's not a well known city. =D

Laquox said:
Hold Windows button "Weather Whatever City"
Also usable is "Open Weather Channel" but if you going for Siri like usage just say "Weather Whatever City" add the state if it's not a well known city. =D
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not working in spanish

All that does on my phone is a search, just like any other unrecognized phrase.

GoodDayToDie said:
All that does on my phone is a search, just like any other unrecognized phrase.
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Laquox is obviously trolling or just severely misinformed.

Siri is just voice recognition hooking into the wolframalpha.com database. So it is just a bigger database than what MS has. That can change and likely will.

clfosk said:
Laquox is obviously trolling or just severely misinformed.
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If you set your browser and search region & language to US or UK English, you will see the top result as the weather of the city you're asking.
The result is pulled from MSN weather

clfosk said:
Laquox is obviously trolling or just severely misinformed.
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Not trolling just stating that most of what they show Siri doing you can already do on a Windows Phone (in the US at least). Now in the future we will probably get features like appointments, more language support, etc
My main point is most of what they show off as "new and innovative" with Siri has been in windows phone 7 for a while. They just polished it. Give it time and the same features will be a part of Windows Phone 7 (in most languages)

Laquox said:
Isn't Siri just a rip off of what Windows Phone 7 already does? I can do everything with my windows phone that the Siri commercials show and have been able to for some time.
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Are you sure? I keep hearing this on here and other WP7 sites, so I decided to check against the Siri Commerical:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNsrl86inpo
Here's a list of things that Siri does in the video, and next to it I check whether WP7 Voice Commands can do it:
Read out and reply to an SMS message - YES
Play a music playlist - NO
Find local traffic report - NO
"Text my wife I'm gonna be 30 minutes late" - YES (though you have to use her specific name and dictate full SMS)
Weather report for SF and Napa Valley - YES (though she uses more natural language and WP7 you have to do two searches via Bing)
Weight conversion - NO
Set timer - NO
Reply to SMS - YES
So out of the 8 functions shown on the commercial, WP7 can do 4, though 2 of them aren't as easy / functional.
Laquox said:
My main point is most of what they show off as "new and innovative" with Siri has been in windows phone 7 for a while. They just polished it. Give it time and the same features will be a part of Windows Phone 7 (in most languages)
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Lol, this is another funny fanboy thing I always hear; that Apple just take features from other phones, and "add polish" then try and sell them as innovative. It misses the entire point; PEOPLE BUY IPHONES AND IPADS BECAUSE OF THIS "POLISH". Mp3 players were around before the ipod, ditto touch-screen smartphones, ditto tablets, and now ditto voice commands. The polish (i.e. making it work well and easy to use) is what makes all the difference, and is exactly why Apple products sell so well.

weijoon said:
If you set your browser and search region & language to US or UK English, you will see the top result as the weather of the city you're asking.
The result is pulled from MSN weather
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I know how it works on WP7. After you say "weather blahblah" it responds with "searching weather blah blah" then it shows data in Bing. Now by the time my Windows Phone is repeating back to me what I said, you have this:
So let's not be delusional and think that our current implementation of voice commands is anywhere near what Siri offers. You can say ANYTHING you want to Siri and it will instantly read aloud a logical response in the same fashion a person would. It doesn't just bring up search results on a page, it's a conversation with your phone. I don't know about you but I have NOTHING of that sort on my two Windows Phones. If anyone needs a better understand of what Siri actually is, see here:

I'm afraid I have to agree with Aphasaic2002. Tellme can do half of what Siri has been shown to do. Just tried to go through that list & I've also checked Tellme's help. Siri also do text-to-speech for the result, which is the "cool" part. Tellme just display the result but doesn't stroke your ego. ;-)
However, it seems that Tellme has gotten better at foreign accent. I'm a Chinese living in Singapore & there're plenty of stuff that Bing don't do here. Point is, Tellme can catch my dictation 60% of the time now, compared to a year ago. So if someone took up that job offer to enhance Tellme, we can expect more from Tellme in the future.

clfosk said:
I don't know about you but I have NOTHING of that sort on my two Windows Phones.
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Yes, Windows Phone does NOT do that, but I have never messed with Siri to that degree. I still say give it time and we will see the same functionality in windows phone. You have to remember Windows Phone 7 is still very much in the catch up phase of its life cycle. The features I always see demoed though were indeed on windows phone first (read text messages, text people via voice commands, check weather, etc)
I agree to a previous poster as well that is why Apple products do sell is because of that polish and shine. Personally, I think Apple is like the windows of 1985-1995 yes they are stealing the ideas of others, but they are creating them in a way that the average person can use, love, and let's not forget MARKETING! They are doing an awesome job at this, but to stay on topic Windows Phone 7 is still new and brought these innovative features to the table. So just give it time.

Laquox said:
Yes, Windows Phone does NOT do that, but I have never messed with Siri to that degree. I still say give it time and we will see the same functionality in windows phone. You have to remember Windows Phone 7 is still very much in the catch up phase of its life cycle. The features I always see demoed though were indeed on windows phone first (read text messages, text people via voice commands, check weather, etc)
I agree to a previous poster as well that is why Apple products do sell is because of that polish and shine. Personally, I think Apple is like the windows of 1985-1995 yes they are stealing the ideas of others, but they are creating them in a way that the average person can use, love, and let's not forget MARKETING! They are doing an awesome job at this, but to stay on topic Windows Phone 7 is still new and brought these innovative features to the table. So just give it time.
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I agree that windows phone will most likely bring their voice support up to par with siri, but im also suggesting that with these API's, we can have that functionality right now.

clfosk said:
I know how it works on WP7. After you say "weather blahblah" it responds with "searching weather blah blah" then it shows data in Bing. Now by the time my Windows Phone is repeating back to me what I said, you have this:
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So let's not be delusional and think that our current implementation of voice commands is anywhere near what Siri offers. You can say ANYTHING you want to Siri and it will instantly read aloud a logical response in the same fashion a person would. It doesn't just bring up search results on a page, it's a conversation with your phone. I don't know about you but I have NOTHING of that sort on my two Windows Phones. If anyone needs a better understand of what Siri actually is, see here:
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lolz, dude, I think you're overreacted. My post is only to clarify that weather search can be done in Bing search by using Voice Command, but NEVER saying that Siri is sux or Siri is a copy from MS TellMe.
Cheers~
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Aphasaic2002 said:
Are you sure? I keep hearing this on here and other WP7 sites, so I decided to check against the Siri Commerical:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNsrl86inpo
Here's a list of things that Siri does in the video, and next to it I check whether WP7 Voice Commands can do it:
Read out and reply to an SMS message - YES
Play a music playlist - NO
Find local traffic report - NO
"Text my wife I'm gonna be 30 minutes late" - YES (though you have to use her specific name and dictate full SMS)
Weather report for SF and Napa Valley - YES (though she uses more natural language and WP7 you have to do two searches via Bing)
Weight conversion - NO
Set timer - NO
Reply to SMS - YES
So out of the 8 functions shown on the commercial, WP7 can do 4, though 2 of them aren't as easy / functional.
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Perhaps you should also make a compare list with WM 6.5 Voice Command with Siri, then you will see both works similar but with Siri it is more natural language approach. TellMe IMO is only a half-baked function of Voice Command. Would like MS to implement TellMe with more functions...
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Lol, this is another funny fanboy thing I always hear; that Apple just take features from other phones, and "add polish" then try and sell them as innovative. It misses the entire point; PEOPLE BUY IPHONES AND IPADS BECAUSE OF THIS "POLISH". Mp3 players were around before the ipod, ditto touch-screen smartphones, ditto tablets, and now ditto voice commands. The polish (i.e. making it work well and easy to use) is what makes all the difference, and is exactly why Apple products sell so well.
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Agreed with you. The "Polish" and Marketing that Apple Inc have is somehow superb than their actual products. (sorry to make that statement because I always think that Apple's products are damn overpricing)

I've been a long time user of Windows Mobile (up to 6.5) until I changed to Windows Phone 7. I have also been using Windows Voice Command in Windows Mobile and was wondering why all the available functions were not ported to WP7. In WVC you can actually say an artist name and the media player will start playing songs in your phone from that artist. You can also ask the time which will be spoken back to you. I guess it takes some additional programming to add the same features to WP7.

e_t said:
I'm afraid I have to agree with Aphasaic2002. Tellme can do half of what Siri has been shown to do. Just tried to go through that list & I've also checked Tellme's help. Siri also do text-to-speech for the result, which is the "cool" part. Tellme just display the result but doesn't stroke your ego. ;-)
However, it seems that Tellme has gotten better at foreign accent. I'm a Chinese living in Singapore & there're plenty of stuff that Bing don't do here. Point is, Tellme can catch my dictation 60% of the time now, compared to a year ago. So if someone took up that job offer to enhance Tellme, we can expect more from Tellme in the future.
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i'm a chinese singaporean too, and guess what? i can ask my phone to text/call my friends too. thing is, it's able to capture and very accurately (90%) pull up the correct contact even when the subject's name is in hanyu pinyin (for you european folks, it's like our chinese names, but spelt out using the english alphabet).that's pretty amazing imo
at my recent university graduation, the organisers were using ms's text to speech, and they also accurately dictated out asian names, regardless of whether it's chinese, vietnamese, indonesian or malay names.
ms has the core of the voice command there already, which was already present in wm. they just need to polish it up, and hire apple's marketing team

[Q] siri voice command and response

Is there a way to implement the interactive voice set up as with the iphone 4s or is that exclusively for that phone?
I would love for a droid voice to speak back to me when i ask which the better phone is "android silly" lol

A while back I read about Iris (siri backwards) being released for Android. It was in alpha stages at the time, and I haven't heard anything about it since.
Not sure of the quality now.. but here you go:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.dexetra.iris

Check out Speaktoit.

A quick search for Siri on the Market shows tons of options
https://market.android.com/search?q=siri&c=apps

simplistian said:
Check out Speaktoit.
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speaktoit, in my opinion, puts all other siri clones to shame on android. it may not be the prettiest, and it may not be the best for answers. but it's the fastest i've used and the built in text to speech is so good it's hard to even realize it's a computer.
Honestly, i asked it whats the weather like after someone used siri to do the same. They freaked out at the voice and asked how they could get it.

Google assistant

do you think it'll be possible to rip the assistant out of a Pixel and APK it for other non pixel phones?
Specifically for the Note 7? (without having to use allo)

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do you think it'll be possible to rip the assistant out of a Pixel and APK it for other non pixel phones?
Specifically for the Note 7? (without having to use allo)
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Think it'll be built into the system so no. The Nexus devices aren't even getting it.

B3501 said:
Think it'll be built into the system so no. The Nexus devices aren't even getting it.
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not yet no... but they did say it will come for other systems before too long.
I presume its probably reliant on Nougat 7.1

I just don't understand Google. Why invent yet another assistant when they could have just advanced NOW. Which one will be left to rot and die?
Look at their other things. What are we up to, 4 different messaging type apps? or is it 5 or 6. Hangouts, voice, messages, Allo, Duo. And not to mention the withering and eventual death of GTALK. Why not make 1 really good one with everything the other 5 have instead of letting them die out.
It makes me worried about adopting any new Google product and become reliant on it because they may change their minds and just turn it off at a later date.
Yeah, I'm still mad about iGoogle and Reader......

Compusmurf said:
I just don't understand Google. Why invent yet another assistant when they could have just advanced NOW. Which one will be left to rot and die?
Look at their other things. What are we up to, 4 different messaging type apps? or is it 5 or 6. Hangouts, voice, messages, Allo, Duo. And not to mention the withering and eventual death of GTALK. Why not make 1 really good one with everything the other 5 have instead of letting them die out.
It makes me worried about adopting any new Google product and become reliant on it because they may change their minds and just turn it off at a later date.
Yeah, I'm still mad about iGoogle and Reader......
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I still use Greader / News plus:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noinnion.android.newsplus
It uses Feedly (which itself uses a G+ sign in). When reader shut its doors I was able to import all my feeds into Feedly.
But yeah, reader was awesome.
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i have the allo app and have yet to use the assistant.. not that it matters