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getting mt3gs in two weeks
but i doubt i will root it
has anyone seen and IMPROVEMENT before with rooting?
not as in features and whatnot but as in speed, stability, battery life?
be honest here
i had a g1 and i rooted it and every rom that was made [FAST] or [STABLE]
was really just an easier way to say [ALMOST WORKS AS GOOD AS STOCK, BUT NOT REALLY, JUST ALMOST]
i have a feeling if i root my slide that i will just be on an epic quest to find a rom that actually works meaning functions properly
i want to be able to base the rom i use on features and not functionality...
has anyone noticed any improvements? be honest here
im a die hard android lover and have done every hack and run every rom there is
but i feel like you get so used to how they work that your idea of blazing fast
is in reality just barely keeping up with a stock setup
i have yet to find a rom that will still be blazing fast a week after use
they all seem to crash and burn miserably
has anyone else noticed this?
i just really want to know if it is an improvement to root my mt3gs or just kind of a "thing to do"
and yes this is my first post but i never felt like me taking up space would help anyone
i learned everything i know from here but i am no dev by any means
i just felt like this is something that needed to be said
ParkerOviedo said:
getting mt3gs in two weeks
but i doubt i will root it
has anyone seen and IMPROVEMENT before with rooting?
not as in features and whatnot but as in speed, stability, battery life?
be honest here
i had a g1 and i rooted it and every rom that was made [FAST] or [STABLE]
was really just an easier way to say [ALMOST WORKS AS GOOD AS STOCK, BUT NOT REALLY, JUST ALMOST]
i have a feeling if i root my slide that i will just be on an epic quest to find a rom that actually works meaning functions properly
i want to be able to base the rom i use on features and not functionality...
has anyone noticed any improvements? be honest here
im a die hard android lover and have done every hack and run every rom there is
but i feel like you get so used to how they work that your idea of blazing fast
is in reality just barely keeping up with a stock setup
i have yet to find a rom that will still be blazing fast a week after use
they all seem to crash and burn miserably
has anyone else noticed this?
i just really want to know if it is an improvement to root my mt3gs or just kind of a "thing to do"
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I came from a G1 also and I can agree with what you say....Kinda. I was able to find a few ROM's for my G1 that were very stable and much faster than my stock ROM. I used several for weeks and didnt have any problems with them slowing down' but there were some that didnt work as well also.
You will definitly see speed improvements in the future for the MTS but right now it is so new that the ROMS coming are doing smaller tweaks such as removing all the bloatware and alot of the sense UI stuff.
After you get your MTS you will want to root it when you see all the crap bloatware and stuff that t-mobile and Htc put on it. Thats what got me to do it.
I forgot to tell you: I havent noticed a speed change since I rooted but those changes will come. A overclocking kernel will be made so it can be overclocked and that will speed it up. I will say it is pretty fast right now ( more than I thought it would be) and coming from a G1 it is a big improvement.
Rooted myself but still on the stock ROM. The phone has not slowed down any since I have had it or since I have Rooted. I happen to like the Sense UI so I am waiting for a 2.2 With a Custom Sense/speed improvements.
That is exactly how I felt about the G1. And the Slide is so fast that I was hesitant to root and jump into someones ROM that is supposedly stable and fast but in reality is not. Luckily we can root and stay on the Tmobile ROM which is what I did.. now I have some of my convenient root apps including wifi tether and hopefully soon can delete some bloatware and ill be happy as can be with the stock rom.. no apps2sd no non sense crap.. I like the phone how it is.. That being said my bluetooth has been acting up and I did not notice this until after rooting..
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
JWhipple said:
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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It's not really about speed. But with a custom ROM you definitely have more customizations possible. You can change the look of the interface, the notification toggles, colors etc. I have the i9100, which is another variant of the SGS2 and I've had ICS for a couple of months now, but it's not getting officially released until this month some time. So, it's not really about speed but rather about the freedom to do other things with it. Some people might cite benchmark tests, and scream that I'm wrong, but the hardware is what makes your phone fast...the software's not at all going to choke that out (whether stock or custom). As far as speed goes, you're probably not going to notice the difference.
Also, though you've got root access which enables you to install apps and do things you just can't do otherwise.
All that said, there are certain advantages to stock. It's often times more stable than something custom. There are ups and downs. If you feel the need to experiment, you can always flash back. Just read a lot before you get your feet wet (it is very possible to brick your device if you muck it up) and you'll be fine.
I don't think so. I'm going to get flamed plenty I'm sure but I don't see much improvement over how my phone performed out of the box. I think the battery life may even have been better before I started flashing stuff.
I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...
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I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...
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After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.
I didn't think you were new to Android since your account is almost 4 years old so I'd assumed you were familiar with all the "benefits" of rooting. The phone is so nice out of the box I don't think any of the roms are any smoother or better on battery. I think Warfare is probably the best on battery and for me CM7 was easliy the worst. I didn't notice a change in data speed, 2d smoothness, 3d smoothness, battery cover smoothness... Nothing. The device is so nice out of the box and I don't use it for anything other than a phone, text messaging, web browsing, e-mail, Skype, the occasional slicing of fruit or a word or two with friends so I can't comment on all the added functionality all the "super-duper heavy users" of this device probably use on custom roms. The only reason mine is rooted is for an ad host file and the occasional tether.
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sean is here. said:
After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.
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When I had a Fascinate... I was a huge fan of overclocking and undervolting. The same when I had a Thunderbolt. It made everything smoother and the Thunderbolt especially needed help in the battery area. This device just works. No need for anything other than what it came with for me. Obviously that didn't stop me from flashing the development section... But hey, I have a problem.
Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
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JWhipple said:
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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the thing with our device is that it came sooo sick straight out of the box that you don't really need to improve it that much. However, custom ROMs/kernels generally make the ROMs smoother, but not many people notice the difference.
I actually notice that because of the kernels implemented with certain ROMs, our phone is able to RUN just as smooth at a lower clockspeed which saves us battery. Other than that, I don't think Custom ROMs are actually "SMOOTHER" or faster than the stock ROM because Samsung really did well on this phone.
sunlaw2 said:
Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
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I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
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JWhipple said:
I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
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The main difference is the bloatware which really does make an impact on speed, memory consumption and overall smoothness.
Some rom cook faster, you should choose the rom cook by team have many vote on forum.
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Don't want to root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTgvLPOYLg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?
Karakoram2 said:
Don't want to root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTgvLPOYLg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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What the hell does this have to do with the discussion?
Chochiwpg said:
I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?
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Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.
Problem with SlickMOD is that the dev's T989 broke and he isn't getting another one - so - development has HALTED.
sean is here. said:
Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.
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Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.
Chochiwpg said:
Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.
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Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?
JWhipple said:
Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?
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It's the Stock ROM that came with my phone. I rooted the phone but haven't flashed any custom kernel's or custom ROMs on my phone. I also use Zeam Launcher as opposed to the TW Launcher by default. I have turned off animations, limited my homescreens to 3. I don't use too many widgets and I use an all black background. Also running Juice Defender to help with battery but I don't think that affects performance/speed.
Model Number = SGH-T898D
Android Version = 2.3.5
Baseband Version = T989DTLKJ3
Kernel Version = 2.6.35.11
Build Number = GINGERBREAD.TLKJ3
I don't know if that helps or answers your question. Hope that helps.
I'm willing to bet that the performance gains that are being seen on the Stock ROMs is due to the fact that they are ODEXed. By DeODEXing the ROMs can be customized to the cook's heart's content, but there is a mild performance hit taken.
Thoughts?
Hello,
G2 owner here, I am considering flashing a new rom onto my not so tech savy friends Desire HD. I'm wondering how good the experience of the JB roms is? On the G2 the roms are unusable but it's certainly not a good experience, lots of random slow downs and lag, plus the camera quality sucks. I'm wondering if that is much the same on the DHD.
Would you flash a JB rom onto your Mum's phone, or would you stick with CM7? Consistent random slow downs / lag plus sub par camera quality isn't acceptable!
Also, if someone has a nice clear guide handy for rooting and installing recovery from 2.3 a link would be appreciated
Thanks!
I think you should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750.
Good luck!
koningjim said:
I think you should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750.
Good luck!
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Sorry my bad! I am a G2 owner, but I am looking at flashing a rom onto my friend DHD. -- updated the OP
whilst the jb roms are very stable, i wouldnt recomend them for a complete technaphoab. better safe than sorry.
on the other hand, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968854 this is very good, but synergye(lead dev) is focusing more time on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003273 this.
the sense interface is very basic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839004
and if you want the mind numbing simplicity of ios, try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991558 (i havent tried this one yet though)
as always, read the threads first
Hard to tell, depends what they use... JB ROMs (and ICS) are really stable. No reboots or crashes. Really. There are small minor bugs, but I suppose most of the people wouldn't notice them, since not all people use all functionality. I.e. I wouldn never notice Bluetooth bug since I never use it, etc.
Now, IMHO, the best combination is JT plus KangBang kernel 1.9 stable. It works great, really smooth and fast. I have really a lot of apps and everything works just fine. With KB kernel, at least on my device, I can overclock to more than 1.2Ghz, i.e. 1.5, and it really works well. 4.1.2 is the best Android for me, fastest. I also have Nexus 7 and now that I have 4.2.1 I see how slower it is compared to 4.1.2. But Nexus is so fast that it doesn't matter. On DHD it might, because it is only single core. I tried CFX also and I had lockups and slowdowns. It is also stable, but would just stop responding for me from time to time.
But all in all I would make a backup of your current ROM (stock) and go for JB/KB combo. The only downside for me is battery life, which is worse than stock, but that doesn't happen on all sets (go figure).
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I rooted my phone and installed TWRP however looking at the custom ROMs , I don't know if it is a good idea at this point to install one. What are your recommendations especially in regards to fluidity, battery life, antutu scores, daily usage and everything working?
guitarbite said:
I rooted my phone and installed TWRP however looking at the custom ROMs , I don't know if it is a good idea at this point to install one. What are your recommendations especially in regards to fluidity, battery life, antutu scores, daily usage and everything working?
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MIUI will give u the best fluidity
Battery life are pretty much the same
Antutu is pointless
Most ROMs have everything working
If you're all set you might as well test them, just remember to format data if going from MIUI to custom otherwise it will bootloop
Mackay53 said:
MIUI will give u the best fluidity
Battery life are pretty much the same
Antutu is pointless
Most ROMs have everything working
If you're all set you might as well test them, just remember to format data if going from MIUI to custom otherwise it will bootloop
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Coming from Zuk. Z2 I'm not a newb to flashing but I haven't heard anything but issues on most ROMs I've looked at... Newer phone so makes sense but I wanted to more establish if there was stability and which ones are in fact more stable...
However if MIUI is the most fluid... Might Stick on that for another few months
guitarbite said:
Coming from Zuk. Z2 I'm not a newb to flashing but I haven't heard anything but issues on most ROMs I've looked at... Newer phone so makes sense but I wanted to more establish if there was stability and which ones are in fact more stable...
However if MIUI is the most fluid... Might Stick on that for another few months
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I keep going back to MIUI, ABC rom seems to be the most stable for me but after a couple days system UI begins to crash.
Mackay53 said:
I keep going back to MIUI, ABC rom seems to be the most stable for me but after a couple days system UI begins to crash.
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I think I agree with you there.... Why move if you aren't going to improve
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Coming from Zuk. Z2 I'm not a newb to flashing but I haven't heard anything but issues on most ROMs I've looked at... Newer phone so makes sense but I wanted to more establish if there was stability and which ones are in fact more stable...
However if MIUI is the most fluid... Might Stick on that for another few months
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That's been the normal state of custom ROMs on the last few phones I've owned including the supposedly development friendly One Plus 5. I think the problem is that custom ROMs are rarely maintained by people who actually use the ROM and device as their daily driver. You can't make a good ROM for a phone you aren't even using so the ROMs always have bugs that the devs aren't aware of until users report them. There was only one One Plus 5 ROM that didn't have bugs and it was also the only custom ROM by a developer who actually used the phone everyday. One of the ROM devs for this phone even admitted that he wouldn't consider using his own ROM on his primary phone which pretty much says it all.
guitarbite said:
I rooted my phone and installed TWRP however looking at the custom ROMs , I don't know if it is a good idea at this point to install one. What are your recommendations especially in regards to fluidity, battery life, antutu scores, daily usage and everything working?
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I have been using LineageOS Unofficial for a couple of months, and now the official for over a month. Everything just works. Things are smooth, and works real nice without any of the wonkiness I had with MIUI. I always struggled a bit to make MIUI work like I wanted. Then again, I greatly appreciate a stock-ish experience. I am even running Substratum.
alose said:
I have been using LineageOS Unofficial for a couple of months, and now the official for over a month. Everything just works. Things are smooth, and works real nice without any of the wonkiness I had with MIUI. I always struggled a bit to make MIUI work like I wanted. Then again, I greatly appreciate a stock-ish experience. I am even running Substratum.
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100% agree
yesterday i was checking if there was a firmware upgrade for my phone (SM-A325F) on samfw. well for other reasons. i saw an update for other regions that was unusual. Samsung had bumped the binary bit version from 2 to 3. Now this scared me. since if the fw arrives for all the regions it will make it undowngradable to one ui 3.1 or 4.1. since I am using gsi's (Generic System Images) which is currently crdroid 9.2. It may cause a problem if samsung breaks something with the update. Since i wont be able to downgrade to older firmwares. Twrp might also be a problem since i have seen threads on a12 that some twrp versions do not work for some binary bit versions. That scared me. Although i could get around this by using repacksuper but still. I have a custom kernel made by myself that i am daily driving. it will make it hard to install since i'll have to decompress and repack boot.img. Then disabling encryption... i am pretty sure gsi's wont boot with encryption enabled. I have no idea on how i' disable it. without twrp. there might be ways i'd have to do research.
I might just be overthinking. but yes. i'll have to test when it comes out for my region. I am also waiting for one ui 5.1 which may also have bumped binary bit version.
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Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's. It can easily turn into a time devouring hurt locker tour if it damages, alters or destroys features or functionalities you are using and depending on.
Doing nothing breaks nothing...
blackhawk said:
Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's. It can easily turn into a time devouring hurt locker tour if it damages, alters or destroys features or functionalities you are using and depending on.
Doing nothing breaks nothing...
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blackhawk said:
Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's. It can easily turn into a time devouring hurt locker tour if it damages, alters or destroys features or functionalities you are using and depending on.
Doing nothing breaks nothing...
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thats true. but i have been facing weird issues with android 13 firmware's vendor. thats why i wanted to upgrade. I wont for now. It also seems a bit slow to me. unlike other people saying that running generic system images on their vendor works fine and smooth. while its laggy for me.
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thats true. but i have been facing weird issues with android 13 firmware's vendor. thats why i wanted to upgrade. I wont for now. It also seems a bit slow to me. unlike other people saying that running generic system images on their vendor works fine and smooth. while its laggy for me.
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such as 60Hz bug happening on most new gsi's where it wouls refuse to switch to 90Hz. Only with A13 vendor. A11 vendor works fine.
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thats true. but i have been facing weird issues with android 13 firmware's vendor. thats why i wanted to upgrade. I wont for now. It also seems a bit slow to me. unlike other people saying that running generic system images on their vendor works fine and smooth. while its laggy for me.
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Between a rock and a hard place... Google punches these systems out too fast. Problems are a given. Best to stick with one version, find fixes, work arounds and be happy. Otherwise you'll constantly be mucking with it.
I'm still running 9 and 10 on my stock N10+'s. No way I'm upgrading. I prefer Pie though. Current load on this N10+ will be 3yo in June, still running fast and stable. Zero security issues in that time.
Scoped storage... No. It wasn't needed; it just causes headaches and unwarranted complexity.
Gookill invariably makes a mess out of anything they do (or kill it) eventually; it's their nature.
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Between a rock and a hard place... Google punches these systems out too fast. Problems are a given. Best to stick with one version, find fixes, work arounds and be happy. Otherwise you'll constantly be mucking with it.
I'm still running 9 and 10 on my stock N10+'s. No way I'm upgrading. I prefer Pie though. Current load on this N10+ will be 3yo in June, still running fast and stable. Zero security issues in that time.
Scoped storage... No. It wasn't needed; it just causes headaches and unwarranted complexity.
Gookill invariably makes a mess out of anything they do (or kill it) eventually; it's their nature.
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these bugs i face are expected since these are not device specific roms. but fix is always possible. One ui itself for this phone is kind of terrible otherwise i wouldnt have tampered with gsi's to start with
Captain_cookie_200 said:
these bugs i face are expected since these are not device specific roms. but fix is always possible. One ui itself for this phone is kind of terrible otherwise i wouldnt have tampered with gsi's to start with
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Ive gotten excellent mileage from One UI once the device was optimized. Before it was optimized it was a mess. However Samsung firmware can vary widely from model to model, region, hardware and so on. That makes things more difficult and unpredictable.
Until you get on top on it Samsung is a pain. One reason I refuse to upgrade hardware, firmware or software is this device is running pretty clean, fulfilling its mission, requiring very little maintenance and it's fun to use.
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Ive gotten excellent mileage from One UI once the device was optimized. Before it was optimized it was a mess. However Samsung firmware can vary widely from model to model, region, hardware and so on. That makes things more difficult and unpredictable.
Until you get on top on it Samsung is a pain. One reason I refuse to upgrade hardware, firmware or software is this device is running pretty clean, fulfilling its mission, requiring very little maintenance and it's fun to use.
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welp for me its the opposite here. one ui is absolutely laggy with its terrible restricted animations for Mid range phones. Then it lags while doing normal tasks. i have found gsi's to be more smoother than one ui. I hate firmware upgrades too. but since this shet is weird and has litt unkown bugs no one has ever seen before upgrading to a newer fw is my only option. Otherwise i'd be stuck on one ui with terrible optimizations for this phone. My friends own the same Galaxy A32 4G and i have seen one ui lag on their phones. it is terrible.
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welp for me its the opposite here. one ui is absolutely laggy with its terrible restricted animations for Mid range phones. Then it lags while doing normal tasks. i have found gsi's to be more smoother than one ui. I hate firmware upgrades too. but since this shet is weird and has litt unkown bugs no one has ever seen before upgrading to a newer fw is my only option. Otherwise i'd be stuck on one ui with terrible optimizations for this phone. My friends own the same Galaxy A32 4G and i have seen one ui lag on their phones. it is terrible.
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Hard to say why that is without playing with it.
One UI should be fast, stable and use very little battery. If you saw this N10+ out of the box though it could be described as what you are seeing. It was a handful at first. Literally getting less then half the SOT it gets now. The lagging generally is caused by junk running in the background, that was noticeably slowing down this phone. Using up possessor and modem bandwidth. Quit the terror
I eventually got it optimized using with Package Disabler, settings and a few 3rd party apps. It's a completely different experience from that hog mess it first was.
blackhawk said:
Hard to say why that is without playing with it.
One UI should be fast, stable and use very little battery. If you saw this N10+ out of the box though it could be described as what you are seeing. It was a handful at first. Literally getting less then half the SOT it gets now. The lagging generally is caused by junk running in the background, that was noticeably slowing down this phone. Using up possessor and modem bandwidth. Quit the terror
I eventually got it optimized using with Package Disabler, settings and a few 3rd party apps. It's a completely different experience from that hog mess it first was.
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using floating.xml tweaks i made my one ui installation some what usable. also note... (haha note..) your note 10+ is an older flagship phone. while the galaxy A32 is a mid ranger that samsung pays less attention to. Thus we are hit with such bugs and terrible optimizations disabled features till to this day. obv samsung rigs the one ui experience on these phones on purpose. otherwise they'll be "too good". even using alot of tweaks and mod doesnt help improve it much. trust me i tried daily driving one ui with floating tweaks and others..
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using floating.xml tweaks i made my one ui installation some what usable. also note... (haha note..) your note 10+ is an older flagship phone. while the galaxy A32 is a mid ranger that samsung pays less attention to. Thus we are hit with such bugs and terrible optimizations disabled features till to this day. obv samsung rigs the one ui experience on these phones on purpose. otherwise they'll be "too good". even using alot of tweaks and mod doesnt help improve it much. trust me i tried daily driving one ui with floating tweaks and others..
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Likely true. The older N10+ is likely a better choice than the newer midrange Samsung's due mostly to hardware but maybe firmware too. The newer Samsung flagships haven't turned out all that well either. The variable refresh rate displays are causing a lot of troubles across the board. Scoped storage is another CPU cycle sucking issue on Android 11 and higher.
5G can add to the problem; if in use it can use a lot of resources.
Rather than squander money on their Fold technology Samsung maybe should have thrown the money at it's midrange phones...
blackhawk said:
Hard to say why that is without playing with it.
One UI should be fast, stable and use very little battery. If you saw this N10+ out of the box though it could be described as what you are seeing. It was a handful at first. Literally getting less then half the SOT it gets now. The lagging generally is caused by junk running in the background, that was noticeably slowing down this phone. Using up possessor and modem bandwidth. Quit the terror
I eventually got it optimized using with Package Disabler, settings and a few 3rd party apps. It's a completely different experience from that hog mess it first was.
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blackhawk said:
Likely true. The older N10+ is likely a better choice than the newer midrange Samsung's due mostly to hardware but maybe firmware too. The newer Samsung flagships haven't turned out all that well either. The variable refresh rate displays are causing a lot of troubles across the board. Scoped storage is another CPU cycle sucking issue on Android 11 and higher.
5G can add to the problem; if in use it can use a lot of resources.
Rather than squander money on their Fold technology Samsung maybe should have thrown the money at it's midrange phones...
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this is exactly why i am never getting a samsung again. especially midrangers. they are wful. idk why samsung even bothers to make phones if they cant maintain it properly. Yet mor phones are being added to A series line up day by day.
Like a software update literally bricked my fingerprint on display. looking at the logs. my keystore is gone and using no matter what firmware it wont come back. great samsung. the last great thing abt this phone for me is gone now.
Yet i remember how upgrading to one ui 4.1 from 3.1 caused an issue where my ril would restart when using data. It would happen randomly. One ui 5 fixed this later on but wow samsung...
i had to resort to gsi's to get a working phone again since one ui 3.1 was slow af.
samsung has basically fuked me in every single way. and now i am just stuck with this thing for 4-5 years.
so to fix such annoying bugs that still exist. i my have to do the update... Yes ik it may cause my ability of downgrading to go away but still.. atleast i may get a better experience hopefully. otherwise welp ig i'll be stuck on one ui again. sucks to be me.
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this is exactly why i am never getting a samsung again. especially midrangers. they are wful. idk why samsung even bothers to make phones if they cant maintain it properly. Yet mor phones are being added to A series line up day by day.
Like a software update literally bricked my fingerprint on display. looking at the logs. my keystore is gone and using no matter what firmware it wont come back. great samsung. the last great thing abt this phone for me is gone now.
Yet i remember how upgrading to one ui 4.1 from 3.1 caused an issue where my ril would restart when using data. It would happen randomly. One ui 5 fixed this later on but wow samsung...
i had to resort to gsi's to get a working phone again since one ui 3.1 was slow af.
samsung has basically fuked me in every single way. and now i am just stuck with this thing for 4-5 years.
so to fix such annoying bugs that still exist. i my have to do the update... Yes ik it may cause my ability of downgrading to go away but still.. atleast i may get a better experience hopefully. otherwise welp ig i'll be stuck on one ui again. sucks to be me.
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The N10+ Snap is still a good choice if you don't need to root if you can get one running on 9 or 10. The Exynos variant can be rooted but the hardware isn't as good. The spen is very useful.
I learned the hard way with my S4+ that it's a big mistake to upgrade/update the firmware especially on carrier phones. Haven't repeated that mistake.
I don't blame you for being irate about Samsung. They are a mess. The N10+ is the only Samsung I would consider getting even now.
I think this is getting off-topic.
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I think this is getting off-topic.
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yeah it is. main purpose of my thread was if twrp breaks due to diff version of bootloader. because i wont be able to downgrade once i upgrade. I could patch my stock recovery for fadtbootd but i would still love to have twrp.
An update. so i built a kernel for this thing using source samsung released with the bumped bit version. flashed it on an older bit 2 firmware. it works fine and i am daily driving it now. i thought it wouldnt boot. but it does.
So looks like the update i previously refered to had SB3 boot loader. i saw it for nepal. while i just saw one ui 5.1 drop for this phone with the U3 boot loader. i am upgrading and i'll tell wether the twrp and other stuff works. If not i'll report any workarounds i used.