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S-on

ok so i got a g2, i permarooted thanks to rage/gfree now i have to send it in, i flashed back to stock rom, tried following http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835971 to the letter, fastboot runs teh pc10img.zip with no complaints, i even installed the ota afterwards, but yet im still s-off and when i try to boot to recovery it gives me a phone and red triangle...
ive asked in the irc, granted this prolly isnt the best time of the day. im in no hurry as my new phone wont be here for a few days but still would rather have it done as quickly as possible.
TL: DR was on sense with s-off, need to be as factory as possible for returning to tmobile.com for keyboard issues

You're still S-OFF because that guide is an old one, and is based on the old S-OFF method of applying an engineering hboot We really need an updated guide to reflect gfree. I'm not sure that the editing of the misc partition is required now we're using gfree.
There's soon going to be an updated version of gfree to return you to S-ON. But basically you need to restore the radio configuration partition on your phone, which has been edited by gfree. gfree saves the original version of this on your SD card when you run it. See post #209 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
I don't know why your stock recovery hasn't restored though, you might have to try flashing that manually on its own ?

Stock recovery you just need to press vol+ and power. Sounds like it flased fine.
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shabbypenguin said:
when i try to boot to recovery it gives me a phone and red triangle...
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I believe that is correctly back to stock then. The stock recovery will give you that screen, then you hit Vol + and Power to continue on to the stock recovery screen.
Clockwork Recovery got rid of that nonsense, but it looks like you got everything but the mmcblk07 partition back to stock. Use the backup created by gfree. It puts it on your sdcard, IIRC.

[[RESOLVED]] Can you s-on after unroot?

I had to unroot my phone so that i could take it back to sprint. I am taking it back to sprint because my power/wake button is not working. i ran the ruu.exe but i forgot to turn the s back on before unrooting. so baically my phone is stock with s-off. did i screw myself. do i have to reroot my phone then turn s-on then unroot again. or can someone please tell me how to turn s-on while stock.
thanks
Edit: See final post for fix.

I think you have to reroot your phone. You need to get into recovery to flash the S-on tool.

gamefreke89 said:
I think you have to reroot your phone. You need to get into recovery to flash the S-on tool.
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well bud since you are the only to respond i guess root it is. i tried unrevoked3 but thats a no go since i cant use the power button. i cant get it into hboot usb. but thanks.

caguirr4 said:
well bud since you are the only to respond i guess root it is. i tried unrevoked3 but thats a no go since i cant use the power button. i cant get it into hboot usb. but thanks.
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mmm i run the RUU the other day and i didnt lost root. i have the s-off n i can still go to recovery. hey i think u can flash a recovery zip (PC36IMG) that mite work.. HERES DA LINK U HAVE TO COPY N PASTE scroll down where it says downloads n download the recovery zip. PC36IMG_RECOVERY.ZIP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045

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So I flashed the RUU.exe(3.29.651.5). it replaced everything back to stock.(i.e. the splash1.img, removed custom recovery,stock boot animation,and removed superuser permissions.) but i forgot to run unrevoked forever s-on.zip. so I had completely unrooted my phone but it was nand unlocked. and because of the problem i was having with the phone i couldnt just run unrevoked3 for a quick root. so here's what i did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762
this is toast's method of rooting. but i only did the first half. the part where you download the pc36IMG.zip and update. pretty long and tedious process but it got the job done. maybe it will hel someone else.
for the recovery i just installed from the market, rom manager and chainsdd superuser permission app. the su app was to grant permissions to rom manager. then just flashed recovery img with rom manager.
i then put Unrevokedforeverson.zip on the root of sd card and ran the zip from rom manager so that i wouldnt have to use power or volume buttons.
verified that s was on. and then ran the ruu.exe again.

Thanks for this!!!!
I had the same issue and followed your instructions and IT WORKED!!!
One question - how did you check if S was ON after running the RUU?
Since I can't use the Power button, I was wondering how you did it?
THANKS AGAIN!!!!!

ucf.elk said:
Thanks for this!!!!
I had the same issue and followed your instructions and IT WORKED!!!
One question - how did you check if S was ON after running the RUU?
Since I can't use the Power button, I was wondering how you did it?
THANKS AGAIN!!!!!
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My power button was stuck in the held position I think. I just did a battery pull and before reinserting. The battery I held the volume. Down and power down too boot into boot loader. That is where you see s—on or s—off.
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ucf.elk said:
Thanks for this!!!!
I had the same issue and followed your instructions and IT WORKED!!!
One question - how did you check if S was ON after running the RUU?
Since I can't use the Power button, I was wondering how you did it?
THANKS AGAIN!!!!!
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You can also use the adb reboot recovery command in adb to reboot the phone into recovery. I plan on unrooting and using this ruu later since my mic isnt working and need to take it to sprint. I dont want to use the newest ruu's since I dont want to risk my hboot getting switched to one of the more difficult hboots since I plan on rerooting once the mic gets fixed. Hopefully the mic can get fixed and I can keep my current phone.

[Q] Is 4.53.651.1 completely rootable?

Can anyone else confirm that the latest OTA update 4.53.651.1 is fully rootable with Revolutionary. It has been mentioned by one member (squidlymandingo) that it is fully rootable (flashes to S-OFF), but it is always better to have at least 2 confirmations.
The phone needs to be S-ON, and on Android 2.3.3 with stock Recovery to fully confirm that it works.
I previously ran Revolutionary on the 4.53 update myself, and it installed the Revolutionary patched Hboot 6.16 just like it was supposed to, however, the phone was already S-OFF from a previous unrevoked-forever flash. I also can confirm from other experiments that updating from 4.24 to 4.53 will break root, but leave an S-OFF phone S-OFF, with unrevoked-forever and Revolutionary.
If there are any other testers out there, the patched file can be downloaded from
http://www.mediafire.com/?bjxvuyc1mupcyzc
Change the name to update. Copy it to the root of your SD card. Boot into your bootloader, then go to your RECOVERY. At the triangle and exclamation point, hit volume up (not down) and the power button at the same time. Choose apply sdcard:update.zip (or whatever it says).
There is no Hboot flash in the update, so I do not expect that it will be patched so that the phone will not root, but hopefully some one else can confirm this, and do not need to experiment, so that accepting the next update will not affect those who plan to have root.
AND OF COURSE IF YOU'RE NOT A TESTER, THEN I DO NOT RECOMMEND ACCEPTING OTAS IF YOU WANT ROOT.

shortydoggg said:
Can anyone else confirm that the latest OTA update 4.53.651.1 is fully rootable with Revolutionary. It has been mentioned by one member (squidlymandingo) that it is fully rootable (flashes to S-OFF), but it is always better to have at least 2 confirmations.
The phone needs to be S-ON, and on Android 2.3.3 with stock Recovery to fully confirm that it works.
I previously ran Revolutionary on the 4.53 update myself, and it installed the Revolutionary patched Hboot 6.16 just like it was supposed to, however, the phone was already S-OFF from a previous unrevoked-forever flash. I also can confirm from other experiments that updating from 4.24 to 4.53 will break root, but leave an S-OFF phone S-OFF, with unrevoked-forever and Revolutionary.
If there are any other testers out there, the patched file can be downloaded from
http://www.mediafire.com/?bjxvuyc1mupcyzc
Change the name to update. Copy it to the root of your SD card. Boot into your bootloader, then go to your RECOVERY. At the triangle and exclamation point, hit volume up (not down) and the power button at the same time. Choose apply sdcard:update.zip (or whatever it says).
There is no Hboot flash in the update, so I do not expect that it will be patched so that the phone will not root, but hopefully some one else can confirm this, and do not need to experiment, so that accepting the next update will not affect those who plan to have root.
AND OF COURSE IF YOU'RE NOT A TESTER, THEN I DO NOT RECOMMEND ACCEPTING OTAS IF YOU WANT ROOT.
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I haven't looked into the root as I already have root, though just looking at your 'instructions' I see a problem: when you talk about booting into recovery with the triangle and ! mark, to press up - I doubt that will work because I don't believe pressing up does anything to begin with, and you'd already need to have a recovery to run the update.zip. The triangle and ! mark is stock recovery, which is no recovery, and either cwm, amon_ra, or twrp recoveries need to be flashed; unless you can provide some documentation that says otherwise.

teh roxxorz said:
I haven't looked into the root as I already have root, though just looking at your 'instructions' I see a problem: when you talk about booting into recovery with the triangle and ! mark, to press up - I doubt that will work because I don't believe pressing up does anything to begin with, and you'd already need to have a recovery to run the update.zip. The triangle and ! mark is stock recovery, which is no recovery, and either cwm, amon_ra, or twrp recoveries need to be flashed; unless you can provide some documentation that says otherwise.
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I don't have documentation in front of me, but without clockwork or Amon, stock has a hidden recovery. That's why it's volume up not down at the triangle. I've used it for manually installing OTAs.
I have an old stock recovery attached, if someone wants to install and then try the RECOVERY to see what I'm talking about with the volume up + power buttons at the triangle after going to RECOVERY. I don't have the latest one, but it works the same as the old one.

Well, if you get any takers, do let me know the result of it.

teh roxxorz said:
Well, if you get any takers, do let me know the result of it.
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Sure. Many of us would like to know.

teh roxxorz said:
Well, if you get any takers, do let me know the result of it.
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Well, after getting a lot of confirmations, 2, to confirm that the new OTA is rootable and after doing some careful experiments, I decided to give it a go. 4.53.651.1 is rootable the exact same way as 4.24, even with S-ON. So, no one has to worry if they are thinking about updating to the latest 4.53 software build. Also as I said before, updating from 4.24 S-OFF root to 4.53 will break the root, but will leave the phone S-OFF, so that it is easily rerooted. This was tested with both unrevoked-forever and Revolutionary.
I even managed to downgrade the Hboot twice from 6.16, back to 2.10 and then to 2.02, but it was tricky.

Updating and re rooting
I can confirm this works, well I think I went about it alittle differently. I nandroided back to my stock rom, downloaded the ota, installed without unrooting or flashing a different hboot. the update took, the phone was still s-off, all I had to do was use revolutionary to re flash cwm, once that was done. I reflashed superuser zip just in case and flashed amon ra. stock ota rooted and making a nandroid as we speak

S-Off but on 6.16hboot w/o root access?

okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.

First download and flash amon RA FNMA thru bootloader. In that recovery you can flash superuser and binaries. There is an option for it. U are already s-off so you r almost there.
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Hey,
Did you install a recovery when you turned s-off? I had it happen once when switching roms that something must have went wrong between the rom and super user and I had to run recovery to get it back to a previous version of super user in order for it to work and be able to manage root, even though I already had s-off.
and if you didnt flash the recovery then:
defiantly listen to the post before me, go flash the amon recovery!
Good luck let us know how you do!

Your right steve i didnt flash a recovery but because i thought i could do it in my recovery after the ruu install but it turns out that the ruu must have taken it off because i have never really use ruu just zips so is there a clockworkmod file that i can change use in the bootloader flash update method?
Where can i find that other recovery program 2nd poster?

grabbed that recovery here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
then usb toggle through recovery to get the su flashed and good to go.
thank you

actually no bueno!! su app still wont update says root access failed when i try to update it and also busy box not installed and also i dl an app to check root access and it says root is not on device so what i have is a supersonic device with s-off and custom recovery working and also was able to flas su through recovery yet i still get messages from apps saying device is not rooted??? I guess i spoke to soon.
Im just going to try and flash a custom rom from recovery and hopefully the system files will load correctly i will do a nand back up for this one first of course.. ill be back.

i used energys newest release and holy kentucky durby batman it works my system files are back to root access.Maybe has to do with something then from the stock ruu bacause i went to the bootloader after putting energy back on and it says hb6.16.1002 which is what i got with the stock ruu i used, and s-off still and root access available. awsome.

popasmurfn23 said:
okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.
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Keep in mind that having S-OFF and having root access are two different things even though they are usually together: S-OFF allows you to flash whatever you want on to the phone while having root access means that you have access to basically every aspect of the phone (application-wise) on that specific ROM. For example, it is possible to flash stock (which has no root access) and keep S-OFF which will allow you to flash anything else whenever.

When flashing the RUU it overwrites the custom recovery ( Ra - TWRP ) and also removes the ability for Superuser to do its job. So you broke your " root " .
I don't know if it will work in your case but try to re-run whatever method you used to gain root access in the first place. See if you can find a PC36IMG.zip that is already rooted. and then a PC36IMG.zip of a recovery.
You can flash both by booting into the bootloader. Remember to remove / delete the first ( rooted rom ) image from the SD card before you run the recovery PC36IMG.zip.
Man I hope that all made sense !

hboot 6.16/s-off revolutionary/stock recovery/no root
I had the same issue. hboot 6.16 revolutionary s-off but i was not rooted and on the stock recovery. i thought i was a goner because no pc36img i downloaded would flash in bootloader and ruu's wouldn't flash. I just recently started revolutionary and when i plugged my phone in revolutionary said 'you are already s-off, do you want to flash revolutionary clockwork recovery?' Once I hit Y (yes) it flashed the recovery and i was rooted again. this took a whole lot of guessing and checking so hopefully this helps someone

[Q] Rooting help!

So I decided to try and unroot my htc evo 4g with this tutorial i found:
[GUIDE] How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141&highlight=unroot
I began with the steps that just involved transferring PC36IMG.zip onto my root folder and booting into boot loader. I ran the update and everything and rebooted and my phone seemed to have factory reset. i went back to my bootloader tho to find that it still says "s-off" so i guess its still rooted? I then installed rom manager and when i go to app it says im not rooted. Im so lost and confused I assumed i need to flash a recovery so i used this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026 and tried each way. none have worked.
Please help!!
Thanks

Your not rooted just s-off which makes it possible to root.. If you get s on and update your phone to a newer hboot then you can't root.... If you want to be rooted again and have a custom recovery your gonna have to flash a recovery and flash su
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steviee7 said:
Your not rooted just s-off which makes it possible to root.. If you get s on and update your phone to a newer hboot then you can't root.... If you want to be rooted again and have a custom recovery your gonna have to flash a recovery and flash su
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soo how do i go about flashing a recovery and su?
also when i go to bootloader and try to enter recovery i get a black screen with a phone and red caution symbol. is this because i dont have a recovery?

itscuzimazn731 said:
soo how do i go about flashing a recovery and su?
also when i go to bootloader and try to enter recovery i get a black screen with a phone and red caution symbol. is this because i dont have a recovery?
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recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
superuser http://androidsu.com/superuser/
make sure you download the one for gingerbread and also download the su-bin and flash both via recovery

evo4gnoob said:
recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
superuser http://androidsu.com/superuser/
make sure you download the one for gingerbread and also download the su-bin and flash both via recovery
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hrm ive been to the recovery forum and tried all ways to install and none worked. im scared to try the bootloader because last time i updated all it did was erase everything.

itscuzimazn731 said:
hrm ive been to the recovery forum and tried all ways to install and none worked. im scared to try the bootloader because last time i updated all it did was erase everything.
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the only thing that can be flashed in the bootloader that will wipe your phone is a RUU. Flashing a recovery wont erase anything

I also did the bootloader thing and ended up getting a big "**unlocked**" and "**relocked**" symbol above the regular Supersonic EVT3 S-ON. So I dont where this leaves me when its talking about my warranty and getting the device repaired. I wanted to re-root my device but nothing is working now that I am HBoot 2.18

Hey all) Maybe someone knows where to get information on how to write scripts for root.
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P. Dexter85 said:
I also did the bootloader thing and ended up getting a big "**unlocked**" and "**relocked**" symbol above the regular Supersonic EVT3 S-ON. So I dont where this leaves me when its talking about my warranty and getting the device repaired. I wanted to re-root my device but nothing is working now that I am HBoot 2.18
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unlock bootloader then downgrade to a earlier version of android like 2.3.3 then accept the OTA and it will say LOCKED s-on http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-) dont do the root part after you downgrade to a earlier version

I just tried this today and it should work.. Use the "HEX" zip file from this forum. Rename it PC36IMG and place it on the root of your SD card..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245649&highlight=how+to+unroot+revolutionary+root
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Don't do anything else but that and let me know how it goes.
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Such a pain in the butt now. I tried to get s-off for my nephew earlier this month but I threw in the towel. Thought it would be as easy as my phone but it was too late as he had updated his bootloader. My phone was rooted back in January, nice and easy.