How to enable > 10 SMS recipients - Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking

I find it rather odd that the limit on # of members of a group is 20, while the limit on # of SMS message recipients is 10 (at least on my AT&T Focus). Makes the Group Texting feature in Mango a bit less useful than it should otherwise be.
I just found a registry setting that might be of interest here - haven't had a chance to test yet. (It'll probably be Sunday before I have a good reason to send a text to > 10 of my friends).
Under HKCU\Software\Microsoft\ShortMsg\Settings : LimitRecipients = 10 is the default. I suspect that increasing this value will allow larger groups of text message recipients. Will report back once I've had a chance to test.

Huh... that's set to 100 on my HD7 (T-Mobile US). I'm guessing it's a carrier thing (yay AT&T!) Definitley try changing it and let us know the result!

Set to 64 on Stock Mango...So, no problem
But cool that you've found that!

Hmm... It does enable the phone to attempt sending the message, but it seems AT&T is blocking it on their end for >10 recipients in any case... The message fails to successfully be sent (can't send/try again link) if there are more than 10. But the phone doesn't refuse to try to send it, so apparently that is the right setting for what it's worth.
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Actually now I'm not so sure ... other intermittent problems with MMS messages on AT&T today, so may just be a network fluke that it didn't go through. Will have to try again sometime.

So, this works as long as the Group Text (MMS) setting is turned off. If it's on, the phone will try to send, but AT&T bounces it (i.e. can't send, try again) if there are > 10 recipients. With that setting off, using pure SMS, no problems sending texts to a large number of recipients (have tested with 20, at least).

Thanks ! Must have tweak

On mine phone (htc trophy) is the value (100).
I am now asking it on my provider, how many I can sent ones.
But now the htc trophy can only sent 1 sms to 100 recipients?
Except the provider don't do it
Edit: if I change some register settings he don't save it

Samsung Focus
WP7 Mango
AT&T - USA
Default is 10,
Changed to 100.
Tested, works great.

idea
my omnia w/plus brand/- not registry key- CU/Software/Microsoft/ShortMsg/Settings LimitRecipients = 10... It maybe best to remove it, instead of adding value?

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How to modify the registry in order to send more than 160 characters in SMS

Does anyone know what to add or remove or change in the registry to allow more than 160 characters on sending SMS ?
Thanks
this is a standard sms thing... you cant change how many characters to send in one message.. now you can type over 160 and your phone should display like 168/2 where the first number is characters and the 2nd number is how many sms' its going to send... and when it sends most newer phones will combine the 2 messages on the recieving device and it will display as 1
My O2 Xda Stealth shows as you described, however, it also gives me an error "Your Text Message cannot be sent". It works perfectly within 160 characteres (1/160) but as soon as you start with (2/320) shows the error when you hit SEND.
Any ideas ? Could you provide the Registry ?
Thanks
Maybe some restriction from your provider, I have O2 XDA Stealth too and I am sending longer messages without any problems...
Ok, thanks, let me go back an ask my Network provider to see if I have restriction.
shogunmark said:
this is a standard sms thing... you cant change how many characters to send in one message.. now you can type over 160 and your phone should display like 168/2 where the first number is characters and the 2nd number is how many sms' its going to send... and when it sends most newer phones will combine the 2 messages on the recieving device and it will display as 1
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This issue was a nightmare for me until I realized how to overcome with continuous efforts. In my case I use the arabizer and thus, I can send 160 char. in one shot (english) but when I change to arabic, the number of char. turns to 1/70 (i.e. max of 70 char. per shot).
Now, that wasn't the case always, I upgraded to one of the latest arabizer versions and surprisingly, everytime I wanted to send english sms it only allowed 70 char! I had no time to dig and find out why is this happening, though I crossed check between older cab files and new ones and found that among the difference was that the new one had two fonts files those are "tahoma" and when installed, voila the problem was solved.
The moral is it is not a standard SMS thing, it is something with localization characters. May be
This is not the case. The question if you can send full 160 characters or only 70 characters depends on the fact wheather you use ASCII or UNICODE. In case of use Arabizer or some special national characters (same for us here in CZ), you can send only 70 characters per one message, but then you can continue and you can see i.e. 75/2 and the longer message will be sent by 2 parts. But he cannot send more than one message at all...
In my case was the Network. For some reason there was a limitation on sending SMS. Network customer service did not resolve my case, I surfed in Internet and found some tricks for GSM networks.
Bottom line I just write down the following ##004#[SEND] and then I received a message from the network "Success" or something like this (don't recall). But it was enough to be able to send more than 160 characters (obviously the system splitted it in "n" numbers of SMS when you submit it)
Hope it could also work with other peoples

SMS problem: Can't send sms larger than 160 chars.

Hi all
I have come across the problem that I can't send SMS larger than 160 chars after I upgraded to the "official" WM6. I am using the Swedish version on a HTC TyTN. When I try and send a message that is larger than the 160 chars i get a message saying (loosely translated from Swedish) Can't send SMS. After I click ok I also get notification on the bottom left part of the sms window saying synchronization error.
Has anyone else got the same problem and if so have anyone found a solution.
/Nicklas
Just to clarify...
I take it to mean that you could sent sms that were over 160 characters before you upgraded?
Because most of the providers that I know don't allow that.
Found something on the forums about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293505
Hope it helps.
Yes I could since the SMS program automatically sends the large SMS in smaller parts.
Say I make an SMS with 203 chars then it would send it as 2 sms, one with the first 160 chars and then a second sms with 43 chars and when the SMS arrive to the recieving phone it will be put together if that phone is capable of that. Now days I think all phones can do this. Or at least should be able to do this but after the upgrade to WM6 this fails on my TyTN.
i guess the previous version of the SMS application was allowing what is called multiparts message, meaning it send as many SMS of 160 car regarding your text lengh but with no guarantee that the reviever will have them in the proper order
usually SMS is limited to 160 car
larsuck: Thanx for the link but nothing in that helped.
So if anyone else have any idea I would much appreciate it because it is a bit frustrating that it worked with wm5 and not with wm6 so far
Have you tried to take a look at DiStefano's Cab Collection? There is an Palm SMS application. You can try it with this application if it is possible on you're device. Its a small test!
Good luck
Well I found out how to fix it.
I did this:
Once upgraded settings need to be changed to ensure desired operation, on the device go to start>settings>connections(tab)>USB to PC, untick the box (Enable advanced network functionality) then exit back to the today screen.
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??? Why would this have an effect on SMS limitations?
I don't know exactly why but what I did was that I hard reseted the unit and after that multipart sms worked as it should. Then I connected the usb cable and ActivSync wanted to reconfigure the settings so I went through the wizard. One of the questions I get is if I want to let internet calls and mms to be sent when the unit is connected and I choose that. Then I let the unit sync with my PC.
After that I couldn't send multipart sms again until I unticked the Enable advanced network functionality box
If anyone knows why this is please enlighten me

TP 2 - Bugs & Fixes Thread

Hi
I thought it would be a good idea to start this thread to report bugs in the TP 2 official ROM so that we may collectively be able to find solutions, and if not, at least bring to attention of HTC to fix in newer builds of their ROMs.
So I request you all to put down bugs you have discovered as also fixes in this thread. I will try my best to collate all into the first post....
Here are the ones I have discovered so far:
ALARM BUG
I set the alarm one day and turned it off the next. But it continues to ring every day at the same time even though the alarm settings show it as off.
EXCESS RAM USAGE
With TF3d 2, messaging, notes and contacts running, the TP 2 shows RAM usage at 81%. Wonder whats taking up so much memory.
DIALER BUG
At times when I am calling, the call status screen does not appear and it continues to show the dialer screen even after the call button has been pressed for a contact.
I am having an issue with downloading emails on my TP2.
Using exactly the same settings as I had on my kaiser (which still works), when I try to send and receive I get "Error synchronising" Cannot connect with current connection settings.
I have ensured my email account is set up identically, and the connection settings to T-Mobile are identical. Anyone else had this issue?
Bluetooth:
When using bluetooth (activesync and headset profile) the pda crashes sometimes. If the screen is on it won't shut down and no interaction with the phone is possible. When it's off it stays off. Funny thing is that the pda keeps working. Phone is runnig when I am called etc.
Ramsfan_Jim said:
I am having an issue with downloading emails on my TP2.
Using exactly the same settings as I had on my kaiser (which still works), when I try to send and receive I get "Error synchronising" Cannot connect with current connection settings.
I have ensured my email account is set up identically, and the connection settings to T-Mobile are identical. Anyone else had this issue?
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To answer my own question, this :-
[email protected]; said:
its something to do with their web proxy and only happens when you are connected to certain "bits" of tmobile.
To fix it, go to settings->all settings ->connections->connections->setup my proxy server-> and UNCHECK this network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet.
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seems to have fixed it....
Sometimes the + caracter of a phonenumber is removed by touchflo3d when sending a textmessage as descriped here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522535
i have a problem with the alert tones. my tp2 either don't play or plays very softly the first second of any alert, reminder, or ringtones. anyone with the same problem?
I'm finding that when I send texts 1 out of every 3 doesn't get sent.
I get an 'Text cannot be sent' message. It's not my Sim card cause it was fine when I had it in the X1.
@home said:
I'm finding that when I send texts 1 out of every 3 doesn't get sent.
I get an 'Text cannot be sent' message. It's not my Sim card cause it was fine when I had it in the X1.
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mine fails most of the time if i reply through the messages tab but if i select all messages and reply from there it always works.
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jjturner said:
mine fails most of the time if i reply through the messages tab but if i select all messages and reply from there it always works.
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So does mine, so perhaps it's a touch flow bug rather than a phone fault.
these have nothing to do with htc touch pro2 itself dude!
it's about the rom you installed in it,so pls return to your technician to get a good rom!
it's like you have super good pc,but the windows xp you installed is crap,then your pc will always get this problem and that......
FYI: rom means: OS(wm 6.5 for example)+Radio(GSM etc)+Extrom(touchflo 3d etc)
SMS Status Report Bug
Hi,
I have a German (O2) htc touch pro 2 with the current original O2 ROM (WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.21048 (Build 21048.1.6.3), ROM: 1.19.207.1 (51489) GER)
My problem is that the phone will not receive or display the SMS status report sent by the provider when the recipient receives the sms.
When writing an SMS, I ensure that under message Options, there is a tick next to: "Request message delivery notification".
I wrote an SMS message to my own number on the TP2 and sent it off. The message promptly arrives, yet no status report from the provider arrives. I have tried this several times to various numbers.
The same SIM card in my XDA Orbit always displays a delivery notification from O2 when the recipient receives an sms. It is not a network problem.
As I have a multicard (more than one SIM card on the same number), I have been able to narrow down the problem as follows.
Messages sent from the phone do generate a status report. I set SMS delivery to my Orbit, and then sent an sms to my own number from the TP2. Both the message and the delivery report arrived on the Orbit.
When I set the network to send SMS messages to my TP2, and then send a message from my orbit, the message itself was delivered to the TP2, but not the status report!
This establishes that the German O2 network is OK, the TP2 can correctly send an SMS and request a Status report from the network. It can also receive normal SMS messages, but not the status report. No sign of it receiving anything, appears to ignore such status reports entirely.
Does anyone have a fix for this, short of flashing a different ROM on it.
I know that a new official WM 6.5 ROM is due to be released for the TP2 (but not so far). I am hoping someone here was a quick fix (missing registry entry, etc.) which can be applied to the current system as I write a lot of text messages and it is useful to know when they have arrived.
Regards
Peter
request delivery notification
i upgraded to the original WM6.5.. when replying to a text message through the new TouchFlo's threaded message look (not the one you get when going in from 'all messages' but the one you get when "clicking" on the message itfelf from the messages tab.), you can go to [Menu] - [Message Option] and there you have the option [reuest delivery notification].
i tick that and say done, send the message and i DO get the delivery notification. however when going back to this same message screen to reply to another message, that option will be unticked again.. i have to tick that option for EVERY single message that i reply to.. as i said sending a message from anywhere else has its own option and is saved correctly and always works..
i googled as much as i could but couldnt find anyone with the same problem :/

Unaccounted SMS and Picture messaging.

Something very odd.
Ive signed up to my-tmobile looking over my unbilled usage i can see SMS messages and Picture messages i have not sent. To non UK standard mobile numbers.
Usually starting with 100 or 10.
Is this a software bug? or have i some how infected myself with an android scam app or something?
i will be phoning up tmobile again later but wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.
Nutsy
If I remember correctly they don't actually show the numbers you have contacted, those numbers starting with 100 or 10 are just an alias T-mobile gives to numbers you contact.
Might just be your normal sms and mms then, if you haven't sent any at all then talk to T-mobile.
Well i deffinently didnt sent any picture messages. And it shows the Text messages i did sent as the correct numbers.
So this is making me a little worryed. I have what i thought where safe programs from the app market. Is there anyway of scanning an android phone of melicous software?
If u have handcent sms on your handset make sure auto convert to mms has been unchecked.otherwise it will convert all your long sms text messages to mms.
Nope just using the htc software. i might give tmobile a call again in a bit see what the hells going on. This isnt something i want to keep having to check up every other day for the next 2 years.
So is back to the other question. in case i have some how got a dodgy program running and doing all this is there anyway to scan my phone?
Really was hoping some one else might know whats going on.
no idea i am afraid, but just to make sure it's not some scam app, uninstall everything...
you;ve not been using any of the options in the STK have you? i think it appears in the menu as interactive? cos those are all done by text messages
EroThraX said:
If I remember correctly they don't actually show the numbers you have contacted, those numbers starting with 100 or 10 are just an alias T-mobile gives to numbers you contact.
Might just be your normal sms and mms then, if you haven't sent any at all then talk to T-mobile.
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i have just checked that, and all numbers ive been texting appear normally

Duh! Desire still converts sms into mms, even with Froyo :(

Any known fix to this annoying issue yet? If you type a message that's longer than 3 sms:es it automatically converts the message into a mms message. Normally I wouldn't care about a "small" issue like this, it's just that I have free sms and I pay for mms messages.
Google said this have been fixed in Froyo, and yes it seems they're absolutely right since the problem is gone on the Nexus one & most other phones running 2.2.
But nothing have changed on the Desire, the problem is still there... Sometimes I wonder if the Desire is running an eclair/froyo hybrid and that HTC have just manipulated the numbers in the "about" screen.
Sigh...
I can type upto 5 sms before it convert into mms.. stock Froyo here
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Download Handcent.
I'm not saying you should switch to it completely (I wont, Stock SMS looks so much better) but you'll benefit from:
- Pattern/Pin lock for SMS messages (even for Stock SMS Program)
- For the rare occasions you're sending a long message, cut from stock SMS, paste into handcent and it shouldn't convert to MMS.
brummiesteven said:
Download Handcent.
I'm not saying you should switch to it completely (I wont, Stock SMS looks so much better) but you'll benefit from:
- Pattern/Pin lock for SMS messages (even for Stock SMS Program)
- For the rare occasions you're sending a long message, cut from stock SMS, paste into handcent and it shouldn't convert to MMS.
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I know it's good and have lots of features, I've tried handcent before but I agree stock HTC SMS app looks so much better so I uninstalled it after a few days. But I might give your suggestion a try, thanks
handcent actually have a setting not to auto convert sms to mms...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
its 5 here as well, it is meant to reduce expenses, because (here at least) if you set six messages it will cost more than one mms, hence the converting.
is it related to the sim card and the network preferences? maybe, but if it is than it should detect if you have free SMS and not convert.
either ways i think you should have an option to turn it on/off.
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irkan said:
its 5 here as well, it is meant to reduce expenses, because (here at least) if you set six messages it will cost more than one mms, hence the converting.
is it related to the sim card and the network preferences? maybe, but if it is than it should detect if you have free SMS and not convert.
either ways i think you should have an option to turn it on/off.
worth mentioning in android issues
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I have an sms-flat --> mms more expensive. But all in all not a too bad idea if you pay for every single sms...

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