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[Q] Jumping ship...replace Evo with Epic Touch?

Anyone else considering this switch? Or perhaps another switch (Photon?)?
I love the amount of development and support for the Evo, but I can only assume the Epic Touch will eventually receive it too.
Feel free to share thoughts and all that stuff!

No argument from me, getting ready to do the same. Going either SGS2 or Photon

alaman68 said:
No argument from me, getting ready to do the same. Going either SGS2 or Photon
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What do you think will be your deciding factor? Is there something/feature you prefer over one than the other?

I'm always weary about samsung and their support. But that's just my experience with the vibrant when I was on T-Mobile. They both seem like nice phones though. Personally I think I'm gonna stick with htc phones.
We're comin from a pure power source.

metalfan78 said:
I'm always weary about samsung and their support. But that's just my experience with the vibrant when I was on T-Mobile. They both seem like nice phones though. Personally I think I'm gonna stick with htc phones.
We're comin from a pure power source.
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I guess my hope there is reliability in developers. After rooting the Evo I think using a device without 'full access' would be frustrating.

Based on my Sammy experience in addition to my wife's Epic and friend's Epic, I'll probably not own a Samsung phone again for a very, very long time.

jdefran said:
What do you think will be your deciding factor? Is there something/feature you prefer over one than the other?
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I will wait and watch the development section and base my decision on that. Both are awesome phones, and can't go wrong with either really. Leaning towards sgs2 because of the screen right now.
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No questions asked....get the Galaxy S II. If you can't decide, trade it in, send it to me, say yours got stolen, replaced with insurance. Win-win situation.

I was considering this switch but I'm not sure the SGS2 has anything substantial to offer me for $200 and a 2 year contract extension.
According to pdadb.net comparison:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2932&id2=3041&id3=2233
The only real advantage I can see is the processor. SGS2 has dual core 1200 MHz, EVO has single core 1000 MHz (but I have mine overclocked to 1200 MHz). I don't ever seem to be waiting on my EVO to finish tasks or feel it is too slow, so I'm not sure why a dual core processor is needed.
The SGS2 has a bigger screen, but still 480x800. I understand it is Super AM-OLED, vs the EVO 4G color transflective TFT, but I'm not sure that I care about that. I mostly use my phone indoors and have no problems with the dispaly.
It also comes with 16GB onboard, but I already have a 32GB uSD in my EVO.
Radio speeds are the same, EVDO-A and WiMAX.
Cameras are the same 8MP.
SGS2 does 1080p video out vs EVO 720p video out, but I almost never use the video out.
So unless I'm missing something, the SGS2 is not that big a difference for my $200 and 2 year extension.
Likewise the Moto Photon. Advantages, dual core 1000 MHz and 540 x 960 resolution. And GSM world phone possible. GSM is not needed for me either.
I think I'll hang on to my renewal discount and see what comes out in the next 6 months. Perhaps the Nexus Prime will make its way over to Sprint?

iphone 5

I am an avid android fan, and I plan on staying an android user.
This post is out of pure technical curiosity.
How do you guys think the incoming iphone 5 will stack up compared to our phones? How do you think it will stack up compared to the nexus prime?
I am just looking for a good discussion.

As far as I know, if Samsung is supplying it's parts, it should be on par with the SGSII.

Hardware wise = A little lower specs than our phones.
Software wise = Outdated.

Overstew said:
As far as I know, if Samsung is supplying it's parts, it should be on par with the SGSII.
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I don't believe samsung is supplying as much as usual.
The processor is unique to apply.
The screen will be unique to apply, etc.
Honestly, I don't see the internals of the phone matching/ or at least outpacing the sgsII. But I do wonder how the screen will stack up. Yes, our screen is great, but the lower resolution, and the fact that apple makes great screens....may well spell a win for apple.
In terms of software...we all know that IOS is very fluid. But honestly, how much can a phone be more fluid then our epic 4g touch? This phone is ridiculously smooth. I didn't know such performance was achievable on android 2.3.
We also know ios is looking to narrow the gap in terms of software features with a revamp notification area, etc. But, correct me if I am wrong, I believe apple will still lack turn by turn navigation....which is a big deal to me. The rumored voice control will be nice, but nothing way ahead of what android already offers.

iSaint said:
Hardware wise = A little lower specs than our phones.
Software wise = Outdated.
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Which phone will be outdated? Why?

Not wanting to be rude but who cares unless you are thinking of buying an iPhone.

QWIKSTRIKE said:
Not wanting to be rude but who cares unless you are thinking of buying an iPhone.
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Did you read the post? The purpose was to facilitate discussion.
You honestly don't have to read it, or reply to it.

BlueGoldAce said:
Did you read the post? The purpose was to facilitate discussion.
You honestly don't have to read it, or reply to it.
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I read it, but the still same thing comes to my head....who cares. I don't plan on buying one so to me why post about something that won't build up the ET4G or any android device. This should be in the apple forums lol....just saying.

QWIKSTRIKE said:
I read it, but the still same thing comes to my head....who cares. I don't plan on buying one so to me why post about something that won't build up the ET4G or any android device. This should be in the apple forums lol....just saying.
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So again, I repeat, don't reply. Just leave it alone.
If no one cares, let the thread die, and I apologize for anyone I bothered.

Well I am with you here, you can trigger the discussion about something and you never know when some one with some inside news or a link might chime in.

Software? I couldn't care less about.
Hardware...that's what I want to know. I'm curious as to what the screen will be. Bigger? Same size?

iPhone 5
Im more the Android fan, but i must say, the internal hardware of the new iphone 5 is certainly impressive from what i've read!

People lately really been taking advantage of free speech, like it's that important to let us know you don't care.. Gtfo
That is not this threads intention anyway.
Now on topic, I honestly feel with only the release of the gs2 we will do well against the tyrant apple lol
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.

How come someone give an opinion on how the SGS2 will stack up against the iPhone 5 when no one knows what is even in the iPhone 5. Seems like a pointless discussion........

Honestly on the hardware front, nothing can touch the galaxy s 2 with the mali gpu and exynos processor. Well, nothing in a smartphone that is. But, the Ipad2 with the PowerVR SGX 540 and A5 processor wins in all the benchmarks that anandtech threw at it. A natural progression would predict that Apple will throw the A5 processor in the Iphone 5. So hardware wise if this is true than the Iphone 5 will be a beast. But, it really is going to come down to preference. Because anything you throw @ my epic touch, the epic touch throws it right back with grace. Most likely the Iphone 5 will do the same. Performance wise I dont think we will see a difference. So, it will come down to software preference. I own an Epic touch because I wanted the best Android experience out there. And in my opinion I have that right now. But, some people like the simple to use IOS. I plan to get my girl the Iphone 5 so she can just use it and stop bothering me for messing with her phone (my old OG evo 4g).
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1. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17

hayabusa1300cc said:
People lately really been taking advantage of free speech, like it's that important to let us know you don't care.. Gtfo
That is not this threads intention anyway.
Now on topic, I honestly feel with only the release of the gs2 we will do well against the tyrant apple lol
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
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...How do you guys think the incoming iphone 5 will stack up compared to our phones? How do you think it will stack up compared to the nexus prime?
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If the iPhone 5 indeed has the A5 dual core processor (same that's in the iPad 2), and they haven't clocked up the speed much, I wouldn't expect much. I used an iPad 2 for a while and after getting the GS2 it doesn't compare. The performance of the GS2 destroys the performance of the iPad 2 (different devices, I know, but I've never owned and iPhone...)
Also, iOS has a LONG way to go before it can compete with Android. It was awesome about 2 years ago, but it was left in the dust long ago.
My biggest gripe about Android was that it was buggy and it took a lot to keep it working properly, but with this phone that's not a problem anymore. I have yet to find a reason to root (rooting would be nice for certain things, but it doesn't feel necessary like it has with other Android devices I've owned).
So how will the 3 compare? I think: Prime > GS2 > iPhone 5. With the gap between the Prime and GS2 tiny, of course...
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cdszoke said:
...But, the Ipad2 with the PowerVR SGX 540 and A5 processor wins in all the benchmarks that anandtech threw at it. A natural progression would predict that Apple will throw the A5 processor in the Iphone 5. So hardware wise if this is true than the Iphone 5 will be a beast. But, it really is going to come down to preference....
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I guess I've never looked at pure benchmarks, and maybe it's just the differences between Android and iOS, but the iPad2 seems less snappy and more cumbersome than this phone.
Granted, Apple has had 6-8 months to work out bugs with the A5, so I'd imagine they'll throw an updated OS with the iPhone 5.
Though there is a reason I'm typing this on an Android forum and not an iOS forum... I just like Android better.

Apple is proly gonna do what sammy did to them
Wait for competitor to release product
Revise product to one up competitor
Release product
Ex ipad 2 galaxy tab 10.1
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I've been wondering if they do in fact increase the screen size if they will increase the resolution to keep with their 'retina display.' To be honest, the samoled screen can't be beat in many areas, however higher resolution and pixel density is very key and because of that I actually prefer the screen of the ns4g to the sgs2. One reason I hope the prime isn't released with an ungodly large display.
tapa tapa tapa

MoMatt said:
I guess I've never looked at pure benchmarks, and maybe it's just the differences between Android and iOS, but the iPad2 seems less snappy and more cumbersome than this phone.
Granted, Apple has had 6-8 months to work out bugs with the A5, so I'd imagine they'll throw an updated OS with the iPhone 5.
Though there is a reason I'm typing this on an Android forum and not an iOS forum... I just like Android better.
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I also own an Ipad 2. I bought it for my girl. When it comes to web browsing, even though technically the Ipad 2 is faster hardware, my Epic Touch browses alot faster than the Ipad 2. Actually my girl complains about the web browsing speed of the Ipad 2. That is because the way Samsung optimized the stock browser on the Eipc Touch. Samsung actually uses the same technique on the back end that Apple uses with their Safari browser. Difference is Samsung does it alot better. I know this through everyday use of both products.
But, that is beside the point. I am in the same Android forum as you are because I am still more akin to my precious and highly customizable Android OS.
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Source:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/4

This phone WILL be better than the iphone5... I and its not even announced yet. And that's comparing everything.. I except maybe the screen
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[Q] Should I get a Rezound or Spectrum?

I'm in the market for a new device as my contract is up and I my Dinc isn't doing it for me anymore, even with ICS installed. I want to know what some of you guys with experience with both of the phones think I should do. The main improvements that I want out of my next smartphone are in order:
1 - Display - mainly size
2 - Microhphone - I'm a songwriter and record song ideas to my phone all the time. the Dinc's mic is awful and distorted at anything louder than a speaking voice.
3 - Battery - I realize that with batteries not getting much bigger and LTE coming on board that this may be a pipe dream ... but I'd like to get an 8AM to midnight day out of my next phone.
4 - On board speaker - I miss calls regularly on my Dinc because it isn't loud enough and I've had to replace the speaker once already.
Here are my winners of the two after handling them in the store:
1 - Display - LG
2 - Microphone - LG by long shot (noise cancellation) - Rezound's is just as bad as my Dinc's
3 - Battery - have no clue. anyone have any insight for me? I am crazy to think getting a full day out of either of these phones is possible? I don't know if the screen/mic/data speed upgrade would even be worth it if I'm going to be tethered to the wall every 6 hours.
4 - Speaker Volume - LG
Here are a couple things I'm unsure about that I've loved about my Dinc. Any insight would be appreciated.
DEV Support - Rezound wins this by long shot, but the Spectrum is brand new, so there's no real telling what the Dev community will look like. What are the chances the Spectrum gets CM9?
WIFI Tether - I assume LG is rootable, since most LGs have unlocked bootloader & NitroHD has been rooted. Am I wrong to assume it will be rooted or does anyone know if it's happened yet?
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LG also had random issue of GPS not connecting while in verizon store. That could be seriously annoying.
Rezound's camera also kills LG's but I never take pictures, so it doesn't matter to me. The Mic superiority would make it easy for me to make this trade-off.
Here's a video review by wirefly that confirms most of my observations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMVfhLIc48

I too have an AMOLED DInc and am considering using my upgrade. I was looking at Verizon's latest crop of HD LTE phones, including the Galaxy Nexus, RAZR (qHD is not True HD), Rezound, and Spectrum. Out of all of them I personally prefer the Spectrum; I prefer its display (IPS RGB LCD beats PenTile SAMOLED or SLCD IMO), and there's something about the phone I just like despite being able to put my finger on it.
That being said, will I use my upgrade for it? NO.
Why? Phones using Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 SoC will be coming out soon, like 2Q. The chipset is 28nm, which will offer better performance while using less power, and includes one radio chip that covers all standards and thus will will use less power itself.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4940/qualcomm-new-snapdragon-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture/1
I really want the Spectrum and keep finding myself drawn to it for the reasons you outlined. And the Spectrum will be able to do the few things that my DInc can't, like HDMI out via MHL over microUSB.
If I can hold out until May or June, I should be able to get an even better phone. And I won't mind paying $300 for a phone that I will keep for almost two years, versus a $200 phone I will want to replace before the end of the year. Yeah, I know waiting always will get me better hardware. But why use my upgrade so few months before a new generation of chips come out?
Look at it this way: would someone who bought a DROID Bionic have pulled the trigger knowing that the RAZR was right around the corner? What about those people who recently got a DROID 3 only to find out the DROID 4 is coming soon?
I'm pretty sure a new phone in June will be able to go at least a year before an incremental increase in performance hits the market, and even then it won't be a big enough increase to justify replacing your phone. While the jump from Snapdragon S1 to S3 is huge, a few months later the jump from S1 to S4 will be even bigger and will come with less of a battery-usage penalty.
I think if you're definitely going to get a new phone, get the Spectrum. Root it, debloat it, and run a different launcher (I tried LauncherPro on it in the store and it worked fine). But if you can wait, just hold on a bit longer...
p.s. I wouldn't worry too much about GPS connectivity INSIDE OF A BUILDING. ;-)

Thanks for talking me off the ledge. It seems like neither phone is worth it with the battery gains that are on the horizon. I tried to do the same for a friend who got the bionic and he regrets not listening.
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vantagejuan said:
I'm in the market for a new device as my contract is up and I my Dinc isn't doing it for me anymore, even with ICS installed. I want to know what some of you guys with experience with both of the phones think I should do. The main improvements that I want out of my next smartphone are in order:
1 - Display - mainly size
2 - Microhphone - I'm a songwriter and record song ideas to my phone all the time. the Dinc's mic is awful and distorted at anything louder than a speaking voice.
3 - Battery - I realize that with batteries not getting much bigger and LTE coming on board that this may be a pipe dream ... but I'd like to get an 8AM to midnight day out of my next phone.
4 - On board speaker - I miss calls regularly on my Dinc because it isn't loud enough and I've had to replace the speaker once already.
Here are my winners of the two after handling them in the store:
1 - Display - LG
2 - Microphone - LG by long shot (noise cancellation) - Rezound's is just as bad as my Dinc's
3 - Battery - have no clue. anyone have any insight for me? I am crazy to think getting a full day out of either of these phones is possible? I don't know if the screen/mic/data speed upgrade would even be worth it if I'm going to be tethered to the wall every 6 hours.
4 - Speaker Volume - LG
Here are a couple things I'm unsure about that I've loved about my Dinc. Any insight would be appreciated.
DEV Support - Rezound wins this by long shot, but the Spectrum is brand new, so there's no real telling what the Dev community will look like. What are the chances the Spectrum gets CM9?
WIFI Tether - I assume LG is rootable, since most LGs have unlocked bootloader & NitroHD has been rooted. Am I wrong to assume it will be rooted or does anyone know if it's happened yet?
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LG also had random issue of GPS not connecting while in verizon store. That could be seriously annoying.
Rezound's camera also kills LG's but I never take pictures, so it doesn't matter to me. The Mic superiority would make it easy for me to make this trade-off.
Here's a video review by wirefly that confirms most of my observations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMVfhLIc48
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I get 15 hours or so on average with medium usage. The battery life for the LG is good, but it really depends what you're doing.
As for the GPS, this is the best GPS I've used in a smartphone BY FAR.
Is the Rezound camera that much better? The LG camera is pretty good too, especially the 1080p recording.
And yes, I tested the noise cancellation and recording quality myself. I'd have to say that it's nothing short of fantastic.

vantagejuan said:
Thanks for talking me off the ledge. It seems like neither phone is worth it with the battery gains that are on the horizon. I tried to do the same for a friend who got the bionic and he regrets not listening.
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HI, could you elaborate on these battery gains on the horizon you mention?
It's my understanding the upcoming quadcore phones can't manage batteries any better and as far as my research goes, the only new battery tech on the horizon is lithium-air technology.

OP: I'm talking myself off the ledge too.
I REALLY want the LG Spectrum, and I need to keep reminding myself why I should wait. I think I'll read that link quite a few times before I upgrade to an S4 Krait processor.
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scott0 said:
HI, could you elaborate on these battery gains on the horizon you mention?
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ICS + s4 + trending towards bigger batteries (razr maxx)= my feeling that we'll have a device that can surf 4g all day before too long
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liteon163 said:
OP: I'm talking myself off the ledge too.
I REALLY want the LG Spectrum, and I need to keep reminding myself why I should wait. I think I'll read that link quite a few times before I upgrade to an S4 Krait processor.
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If either of us gets the spectrum, the one that does owes the other an extended battery. Deal?
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DEAL! :-D
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vantagejuan said:
ICS + s4 + trending towards bigger batteries (razr maxx)= my feeling that we'll have a device that can surf 4g all day before too long
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I will be the one to break it to you- This is not a forward movement in tech, fact is, there's no real data to back this up.
putting a bigger gas tank on a sports car is not a tech advancement. any device can connect with brick of a battery. that's not anything new. quad core will use the same battery technology that we all have access to.

scott0 said:
I will be the one to break it to you- This is not a forward movement in tech, fact is, there's no real data to back this up.
putting a bigger gas tank on a sports car is not a tech advancement. any device can connect with brick of a battery. that's not anything new. quad core will use the same battery technology that we all have access to.
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I mentioned nothing about quad core. Qualcomm's s4 chips will have 28nm size and a tightly integrated radio that will use battery power much more efficiently.
I will be avoiding the exact scenario that you're describing with the new quad core phones that will be gobbled up by the masses just because they have quad in their name. Google it or click the link provided by liteon163 above.

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I mentioned nothing about quad core. Qualcomm's s4 chips will have 28nm size and a tightly integrated radio that will use battery power much more efficiently.
I will be avoiding the exact scenario that you're describing with the new quad core phones that will be gobbled up by the masses just because they have quad in their name. Google it or click the link provided by liteon163 above.
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Thank you for expanding, sorry I lumped quad core into your comment/view.

scott0 said:
Thank you for expanding, sorry I lumped quad core into your comment/view.
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You're welcome. No problem. I can understand the confusion between s4 and quad core.

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You're welcome. No problem. I can understand the confusion between s4 and quad core.
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also I think I am just frustrated at the lack of battery development overall & it especially hits a nerve with these devices.

[Q] is it worth upgrading from Droid RAZR to Epic 4G touch?

as the title says, i currently use a Droid RAZR which has awesome built quality, good display, very good audio quality. its just like i everything wanted but somehow i still have the urge to desire for something better
the things s i am looking at is
bigger and sharper display 4.5" super amoled
good audio quality
better camera
good audio quality
good build quality and doesn't feel cheap
good battery life
better performance
so far the epic 4g touch have the advantage of display, speed and camera
with the recent update to droid razr that is supposed to make image quality better, i am now unsure how it stacks up
the audio quality, build quality, battery life seems to be worse than razr
so is it worth upgrading? if so, why do you think so?

I don't know if I would consider it an upgrade. Although both are terrific phones. I think the biggest difference between the two would be the service provider. You just can't compare Sprint 2 Verizon. Verizon dominates in all playing fields, accept for price. Although I am partial to the Epic, because that is the phone I have, you still have an excellent device. If anything I would wait for the Galaxy S3. It is rumored to come out some time within the first half of 2012.

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I don't know if I would consider it an upgrade. Although both are terrific phones. I think the biggest difference between the two would be the service provider. You just can't compare Sprint 2 Verizon. Verizon dominates in all playing fields, accept for price. Although I am partial to the Epic, because that is the phone I have, you still have an excellent device. If anything I would wait for the Galaxy S3. It is rumored to come out some time within the first half of 2012.
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carrier is not an issue as i dont use it as a phone but rather a device i use to browse web, watch videos, listen to music, take photo and video, etc...
in fact, my razr is bad esn and have no carrier at all
tablet is not an option to me

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carrier is not an issue as i dont use it as a phone but rather a device i use to browse web, watch videos, listen to music, take photo and video, etc...
in fact, my razr is bad esn and have no carrier at all
tablet is not an option to me
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I'll be honest, I wouldn't do it. This is a great phone, but with so many things on the way, I think you should hold off and wait for sprint's LTE network. Also, quad core phones are probably on the horizon. I mean, this phone is fast and at the moment, could do just about anything you ask it to do, but that may not be the case in 6 months to a year.

Freeroot said:
I'll be honest, I wouldn't do it. This is a great phone, but with so many things on the way, I think you should hold off and wait for sprint's LTE network. Also, quad core phones are probably on the horizon. I mean, this phone is fast and at the moment, could do just about anything you ask it to do, but that may not be the case in 6 months to a year.
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im not getting the quad core phone because i have no intention of shelling out money full prize
my situation right now is that i could get the epic 4g touch and sell my razr and it would cost me little but the question is, is it worth giving up the razr for the epic 4g?

raclimja said:
im not getting the quad core phone because i have no intention of shelling out money full prize
my situation right now is that i could get the epic 4g touch and sell my razr and it would cost me little but the question is, is it worth giving up the razr for the epic 4g?
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I think that's for you to decide ultimately. I can tell you this though, I love this phone. It has its downfalls, it has a horrible gps signal at essentially all times and seems to occasionally freeze. However, the thing is so powerful and fast that I really could care less about that stuff. The razr, as far as materials, is built much better and is more solid structurally. But I love this thing and if you really don't wanna wait for the LTE network, then maybe you should dive in. I doubt you'll be disappointed with it.

Freeroot said:
I think that's for you to decide ultimately. I can tell you this though, I love this phone. It has its downfalls, it has a horrible gps signal at essentially all times and seems to occasionally freeze. However, the thing is so powerful and fast that I really could care less about that stuff. The razr, as far as materials, is built much better and is more solid structurally. But I love this thing and if you really don't wanna wait for the LTE network, then maybe you should dive in. I doubt you'll be disappointed with it.
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My gps works every ware instantly never freezes either running starburst
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I do have GPS related issues, mostly just locking in on location. But nothing too hard-core.

Freeroot said:
I'll be honest, I wouldn't do it. This is a great phone, but with so many things on the way, I think you should hold off and wait for sprint's LTE network. Also, quad core phones are probably on the horizon. I mean, this phone is fast and at the moment, could do just about anything you ask it to do, but that may not be the case in 6 months to a year.
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I agree, I wouldn't upgrade to the epic from the razr either. you aren't gaining much. i suggest you look into the galaxy note if you want to use it just for browsing web & media consumption. as far as I know, you get the exynos processor with the 5.3" @ >720p display display. much better device in my opinion.

srgwidowmaker said:
My gps works every ware instantly never freezes either running starburst
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Coming from an htc phone, trust me, this thing has gps issues. It's a known issue and is relatively common with samsung devices. I had freezing issues on stock ek02 and that was one of the big determining factors for me rooting. I'm still having freezing issues and have heard of others having the same issue. It still may very well be an isolated issue and in the future I will treat it as such.

ppcpirate said:
I agree, I wouldn't upgrade to the epic from the razr either. you aren't gaining much. i suggest you look into the galaxy note if you want to use it just for browsing web & media consumption. as far as I know, you get the exynos processor with the 5.3" @ >720p display display. much better device in my opinion.
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i would jump on that in a heartbeat if you could find me one for $210 no contract
thats the cost of epic 4g touch im eyeballing right now

Just for the pure fact your on Verizons network is enough...The Epic 4G Touch is the best phone ive owned...Spec and build quality is to notch. The 1080p video is imo better than the Iphone. Sprint is the way to go for data...and phone selection. Priceplan wise you dont have to worry about overages and data price plans...is all included.
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[All Carriers] How long until...

How long until you believe this phone becomes obsolete? I hear a lot of people (and read them, too) say that this is probably the first phone they'd go the full 2 years with...however, being realistic, when was the last time you made it two years with the same device? I haven't gone two years with the same device since the original Razr was in style.
I know, I know, at 2gb ram, dual core, etc, this phone is far from becoming obsolete, so I'll rephrase that question for you: What feature on a future phone would make you make the switch from your Galaxy S3? Or are you confident enough that there will be no other phone in the next two years that can replace it?

When they release phones with 16 core Opterons in them
In the wise words of amd..:
MOAR CORES!!!!!
/sarcasm

My old s1 still works great
And really do we need to be able to play skyrim on a phone
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I've actually been impressed with mobile gaming...never was big on it but I have played 3D Spiderman, GTA 3, Fifa12, PES 2011 and 2012, NBA Jam, etc...been a great experience recently
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gtuansdiamm said:
My old s1 still works great
And really do we need to be able to play skyrim on a phone
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Yes
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I don't know that I have a feature that I would jump ship for at this time ... but I wonder if, in 2 years, the size and use of applications will make even 2 gb of ram obsolete?
I'm in the camp that I can see keeping this phone throughout contract, but it is hard to tell if, in 1.5 to 2 years time, 2 GB of ram is actually not enough to keep up with programs/OS requirements. I don't necessarily think so, but remember back when 256MB of ram was a lot? That wasn't TOO long ago.
But, since I don't use my phone for intense gaming, I see this phone in my future for a long while - at least until the sandwich-making feature phone is announced.

I don't think it being obsolete would be the problem. I'll just want something newer at some point before two years. My Evo 3D could have easily lasted another year for my uses, but I still got a GS3.
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banzaiwolfe said:
I don't think it being obsolete would be the problem. I'll just want something newer at some point before two years. My Evo 3D could have easily lasted another year for my uses, but I still got a GS3.
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You and I think alike. Also had Evo 3D, Razr, GNex, but still had to have the S3 and more than likely getting the Note 2 when it comes out
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Ill keep mine the whole 2 years (well 20 months or whatever it is) just like I have done with every other phone. While there may be something new and better out if you are always waiting for that you will never have a phone. That and the cost to buy phones off contract now are more than I want to spend.

Sccrluk9 said:
Ill keep mine the whole 2 years (well 20 months or whatever it is) just like I have done with every other phone. While there may be something new and better out if you are always waiting for that you will never have a phone. That and the cost to buy phones off contract now are more than I want to spend.
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That's why you make a friend who works for AT&T and gets all the new phones free who can turn around and sell em to u for 100-150...lol
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It will become obsolete sometime between Q4 2012 & Q2 2013. Qualcomm are already prepping the S4 QUAD for tablets this year and its performace is roughly x2 the Dual S4, and far exceeds the Exynos 4212+Tegra 3 if I read correctly. Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings(Imaginations is like a high-end Nvidia in the mobile-space, Adreno mid, and Tegra mid-high).
For some reason I feel someone is gonna make a 1080P phone, which is useless btw--just had to throw that out there for those that were unaware. Cores cores and more cores will probably be one of the more popular acts we see though, and 2GB-4GB Ram will be standard. Unfortunately I wish these companies would realize they need to relax b/c optimizations are practically nonexistent with Stock Android phones. I hate to constantly reference Apple & WP7/8, though it's a must. When i hear people telling me stuff like the HOAX or S3, or whatever dual/quad lags--lag. Seriously, these phones are using CPUs that theoretically should outperform the 4S/iPd3, but that's normally not the case. We are getting to a point where everyone is rushing to get out the latest and greatest, however all the hardware don't mean **** when the software can't match it.
P.S. Sorry about going off on a rant.

Ace42 said:
We are getting to a point where everyone is rushing to get out the latest and greatest, however all the hardware don't mean **** when the software can't match it.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again here, I love Android OS but in terms of refinement iOS is better put together overall (speed, battery life, overall smoothness). Thats just my opinion.
and yes, quad core, 2GB RAM-LTE device is already out there in Korea... it wont be long until our dual core, 2GB RAM, LTE gets outdone hardware-wise down here
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I have been so disappointed with the radio in my t-mobile s3 because I cannot stream music without it cutting out constantly. I am actually going to demand a microsim adapter from them and return to my vibrant. If my data sucks so bad that I cannot consistently stream music in the car, what's the point of owning this without calling it just a pda.
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p3rljam said:
I have been so disappointed with the radio in my t-mobile s3 because I cannot stream music without it cutting out constantly. I am actually going to demand a microsim adapter from them and return to my vibrant. If my data sucks so bad that I cannot consistently stream music in the car, what's the point of owning this without calling it just a pda.
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What are u streaming? And what coverage do you have? 3G? H+?
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cue_32 said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again here, I love Android OS but in terms of refinement iOS is better put together overall (speed, battery life, overall smoothness). Thats just my opinion.
and yes, quad core, 2GB RAM-LTE device is already out there in Korea... it wont be long until our dual core, 2GB RAM, LTE gets outdone hardware-wise down here
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And it only took around 2 months for it to become obsolete then, not ideal in the world I would prefer, but I suppose it can't be helped. This phone could had been so much more if Samsung stuck with the SGX instead of adopting the Mali-400. It would had been so cool to have the CPU part of the S4 combined with a dual/quad SGX543/544 like the ipad/iphones. Those GPUs outperform even the silly Tegra 3 & its fancy 16 cores(which are just 16 weak cores throw together ). I don't know what Sammy or Qualcomm were thinking about. Everyone is just dropping the ball all over the place these days.

I'm not really sure, mainly because I'm not entirely vested in this phone as it is, so it probably wouldn't take much, provided I could sell this one and cover the majority cost of a replacement phone.
I think something with sufficient horsepower to run some things which even this phone can't, but that remains to be seen. One thing that could almost definitely sell me is a flagship phone like this one that has a hardware keyboard. The problem is that I'm in the minority, so a flagship Galaxy S or Nexus phone is highly unlikely to have one, and I care ever so slightly more about the fact that flagship phones have thriving development communities, whereas one-off phones, which I may like more, won't get the same kind of attention from either developers or manufacturers.

I'll keep my phone until my contract is up. I always have (except for my BB Storm which I *****ed about until they upgraded me). My OG Droid Inc lasted for 2 years until I got this S3 and it was still in like new condition. I was tired of the small screen, but the devs here kept the phone fresh.
Hell, part of me misses my Inc. (Love this phone, though.)
Sent from an overpriced Verizon tower.

Ace42 said:
Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings.
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Do you mean the dual core 800MHz in the 4S? That is Apple's current offering.
Since the definition of obsolete is...
1. out of use or practice; not current
2. out of date; unfashionable or outmoded
An old Startac is obsolete because it It can no longer be used. My old Motorola RAZR is not obsolete because I can still use it
for it's intended purpose.
I would say the phone will not be obsolete for many years to come. How can a device me considered obsolete if there is a phone
with a faster CPU or more memory? The phone can still be used for it's intended purpose.
My S3 can not do anything my Vibrant couldn't (with the same mechanicals), it only does it better.
Ian

w98seeng said:
Do you mean the dual core 800MHz in the 4S? That is Apple's current offering.
Since the definition of obsolete is...
1. out of use or practice; not current
2. out of date; unfashionable or outmoded
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Actually when I said latest offering I was referencing the iPad 3. And actually I stated the GPU in Android devices are all obsolete(as in not current in terms of power). The Legendary SGX543 MP4 in the iPad 3 mops the floor of every single Android device to ever touch this world, even the soon to be made Adreno 320 in the new S4 QUAD(snapdragon) fails to match the creature. Even the 4S' SGX543 MP2 is barely phased by the Mali 400, Adreno 225, and Tegra 3's laughable 16 core toy. I have no doubt that the S3's CPU is superior at all.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/4
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
^Just look there, every time Apple makes everyone look like a joke. As much as I dislike Apple's methods and price gouging what I say it true.

Ace42 said:
It will become obsolete sometime between Q4 2012 & Q2 2013. Qualcomm are already prepping the S4 QUAD for tablets this year and its performace is roughly x2 the Dual S4, and far exceeds the Exynos 4212+Tegra 3 if I read correctly. Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings(Imaginations is like a high-end Nvidia in the mobile-space, Adreno mid, and Tegra mid-high).
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Obsolete (by my definition) doesn't mean that a newer/better product exists. Every device would be a obsolete within a few months if that were the case. To me obsolescence means that it either doesn't perform modern tasks acceptably or a new product feature is so desirable that you simply don't want your old device anymore.
We all know the S3 will handle Jelly Bean beautifully. I'm pretty confident it will be good for Key Lime Pie as well. I got close to 2 years from my OG Epic (Galaxy S1) and only upgraded short of 2 years because I could. With the strong CM/AOKP support this phone has, I'm fully confident I'll have this phone the full 2 years. Unless I break it, heh.