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Nexus Prime

Looking at the leaks BGR posted today Im happy to say Im glad I didnt wait. If the specs leaked are true that is because BGR is not known to do anything not Apple any favors.

Same cpu as ours I'm guessing only difference is the screen but I am disappointed if the camera is only 5 megapixels

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Same cpu as ours
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Not quite. The Prime is due to have a 1.2ghz dual-core TI OMAP - that may perform better or worse than a similarly-clocked Exynos. We'll know soon enough. GPU is a wildcard.

I heard it was 1.5ghz dual core
Swyped from mah synergy evo!

alainater said:
I heard it was 1.5ghz dual core
Swyped from mah synergy evo!
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1.2, 1.5, reports vary. It's pretty settled on being an OMAP.

k0nane said:
Not quite. The Prime is due to have a 1.2ghz dual-core TI OMAP - that may perform better or worse than a similarly-clocked Exynos. We'll know soon enough. GPU is a wildcard.
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Im hoping that the specs are for the Verizon model and the rest of the carriers get something more in the perfomance department and a better camera.
In other words I would like to see a big jump before I ditch theE4GT

The important info from the leaked specs is LTE/HSPA. In other words, not coming to Sprint. My guess is Sprint made its deal with the devil on the Iphone and has to sell the crap out of it to make it work. Can't imagine they're going to bring more "flagship" type phones that could poach iphone sales.
Sprint can safely say they offer two flagship phones, one with Android (Epic 4G Touch) and the other with iOS. Customer can choose between the two.

Not much of an upgrade over the ET4g. Another Nexus that dosent hold my interest.

atoy74 said:
The important info from the leaked specs is LTE/HSPA. In other words, not coming to Sprint. My guess is Sprint made its deal with the devil on the Iphone and has to sell the crap out of it to make it work. Can't imagine they're going to bring more "flagship" type phones that could poach iphone sales.
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Keep in mind the original source is BGR, who put out the bogus rumor that Sprint would get an exclusive iPhone5 with WiMAX. It wouldn't surprise me if Prime is a VZW exclusive, but consider the source.

atoy74 said:
The important info from the leaked specs is LTE/HSPA. In other words, not coming to Sprint. My guess is Sprint made its deal with the devil on the Iphone and has to sell the crap out of it to make it work. Can't imagine they're going to bring more "flagship" type phones that could poach iphone sales.
Sprint can safely say they offer two flagship phones, one with Android (Epic 4G Touch) and the other with iOS. Customer can choose between the two.
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Sprints gonna sell phones anyway they can. I highly doubt they would diss Samsung,HTC or Moto just because they have iphone. If iphone gets asses in the door theres no telling what devise they leave with.

I was interested in the phone till I saw the curved shape - not exactly pocket friendly (probably not holster friendly either).
I like my ET4G but there is always room for improvement.
I'd like my next phone to:
1. support LTE and Wimax and EVDO rev b
2. have a 4.65" screen
3. to have a higher resolution
4. to have longer battery life
Other than that, I don't care about a faster processor too much or much else. I'd also prefer the industry standard 2.5mm headset jack instead of the 3.5mm

xenokc said:
Keep in mind the original source is BGR, who put out the bogus rumor that Sprint would get an exclusive iPhone5 with WiMAX. It wouldn't surprise me if Prime is a VZW exclusive, but consider the source.
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Yeah, BGR has screwed the pooch before.
ilostmypistons said:
Sprints gonna sell phones anyway they can. I highly doubt they would diss Samsung,HTC or Moto just because they have iphone. If iphone gets asses in the door theres no telling what devise they leave with.
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Normally I'd agree. The difference is that (according to the WSJ) Sprint is on the hook no matter what for 20bil over 4 years. They have to buy that amount off Apple whether they can sell the phones or not. This is a "bet the company" move on Sprint's part.

I have to agree with OP. I was hesitant to purchase the Epic Touch primarily because of the upcoming Nexus release and iPhone announcement.
iPhone 4S turned out to be unimpressive imo.. Nexus Prime will be an awesome device but limited to Verizon initially and I wasn't willing to switch carriers. Now it looks like the cameras may not be up to par with our Galaxy S2, it may have better optics but I remember how the Nexus S didn't support 720p video capture while the Galaxy S did and it omitted a microsd slot.. The Nexus Prime might not best the Galaxy S2 in every category if the pattern repeats.

It seems that the BGR post this morning might be wrong.
THere is a debate on the other forums saying the BGR is bogus and the real specs are:
Display: 4.65-inch HD(1280x720) Super AMOLED
Camera: 8 megapixel (flash)/2 megapixel on the front
Battery: 1850 mAh
Value added features: 1.5GHz dual core AP, embedded 16GB memory,
Bluetooth 3.0 HS, WiFi a/b/g/n

Why doesn't google like sd cards on the nexus devices??

Amd4life said:
Why doesn't google like sd cards on the nexus devices??
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Because of the Cloud, no need unless you wanna play HD movies from your card.

boe said:
I was interested in the phone till I saw the curved shape - not exactly pocket friendly (probably not holster friendly either).
I like my ET4G but there is always room for improvement.
I'd like my next phone to:
1. support LTE and Wimax and EVDO rev b
2. have a 4.65" screen
3. to have a higher resolution
4. to have longer battery life
Other than that, I don't care about a faster processor too much or much else. I'd also prefer the industry standard 2.5mm headset jack instead of the 3.5mm
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let evdo rev b go bro who cares if a phone supports it or not our network never will

even if this joint does launch soon. im cool with the et4g for a while. also not switching to VZ for anything

boe said:
I'd also prefer the industry standard 2.5mm headset jack instead of the 3.5mm
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Sorry, tangent, but the audio engineer side of my couldn't be quiet. I think you're confused here, 3.5 mm has been the standard the standard for everything consumer grade for a long time. 2.5 mm has been basically gone and dead for years, look at any phone coming out now: 3.5 mm for both audio and headset.
Consumer audio: 3.5 mm.
Pro audio: 1/4" (twice as big).
The dead past: 2.5 mm.
Sorry, I couldn't resist, but don't read that as condescension, because I in no way mean it as such.
Anyways, rabbit trail aside, I'll be glad if my shiny new Epic Touch doesn't become outdated this quickly.
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klub242 said:
Sorry, tangent, but the audio engineer side of my couldn't be quiet. I think you're confused here, 3.5 mm has been the standard the standard for everything consumer grade for a long time. 2.5 mm has been basically gone and dead for years, look at any phone coming out now: 3.5 mm for both audio and headset.
Consumer audio: 3.5 mm.
Pro audio: 1/4" (twice as big).
The dead past: 2.5 mm.
Sorry, I couldn't resist, but don't read that as condescension, because I in no way mean it as such.
Anyways, rabbit trail aside, I'll be glad if my shiny new Epic Touch doesn't become outdated this quickly.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA App
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i was actually going to post this also. thanks for clearing that up

[Q] Galaxy Nexus vs LG Spectrum

Hi guys, it happened that I can still bring back my GN and get another phone. The LG Spectrum will be available on Jan 19. By looking the specs here is what I see:
Processor GN - 1.2, LG 1.5
Camera GN - 5 mp, LG 8 mp
Screen - same resolution, LG has better colors (at least what they're saying).
Storage: GN - 32 gig, LG - 4+.
OS - here is the huge disadvantage: LG has Gingerbread versus ICS on GN. However they claim update will be available early this year.
Also, Verizon will be making LG global and it priced $100 chipper.
Guys, am I missing something? Are there any other reasons to keep GN?
I appreciate your input.

Hm, certainly you are missing couple of things.
According to quick search on Google: "(LG Spectrum) won’t get Ice Cream Sandwich until the second half of 2012". This alone kills the phone for me.
Otherwise, it lacks notification LED - one of the main features of SGN for me.
It also has buttons on the front, not soft buttons on the screen like SGN.
If I was in the market for other than SGN android phone, I would either wait for SGS3, or the new Sony Xperia S, or maybe I would just go for the Galaxy Note (ICS update expected in 1-2 months).

Stock Android Experience (esp. on Ice Cream Sandwich) > any manufacturered skin of Android.
Not to mention Nexus devices tend to get a lot of good developer support simply because its a Nexus device.

LG is possibly theeeeee absolute worse at making stable Android software, not to mention their support is lacking, and their skin is horrible. To each his own though.

LG is without a doubt the worst phone manufacturer when it comes to system updates. G2x shipped with 2.2, was promised 2.3 within weeks, and didn't receive it officially until 6 months later. Tons of people had quality control issues with 3,4,5 replacements being common. Stay far, far away from LG. G2x was fantastic to hold and was great when it works correctly, but left such a bad taste in my mouth I wont be purchasing LG products again.

GNowner said:
Hi guys, it happened that I can still bring back my GN and get another phone. The LG Spectrum will be available on Jan 19. By looking the specs here is what I see:
Processor GN - 1.2, LG 1.5
Camera GN - 5 mp, LG 8 mp
Screen - same resolution, LG has better colors (at least what they're saying).
Storage: GN - 32 gig, LG - 4+.
OS - here is the huge disadvantage: LG has Gingerbread versus ICS on GN. However they claim update will be available early this year.
Also, Verizon will be making LG global and it priced $100 chipper.
Guys, am I missing something? Are there any other reasons to keep GN?
I appreciate your input.
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When talking about processors, there's more to consider than just clock speed. To make a long story short, I'd quickly take the 1.2 OMAP 4460 over a 1.5 snapdragon S3 any day of the week. I refuse to accept a phone using a snapdragon S3.
Camera - Megapixels alone do not make a camera better. That just means it takes larger photos.
Screen - Not sure where you heard it had better colors, but with it having an IPS display that means two things will inherently be true. It will not have anywhere near the same contrast as the Galaxy Nexus and it's color will not be as vibrant. For your reference, some IPS displays are only 800:1 whereas the GNex has a contrast ratio of 100000:1. Needless to say, that's quite a sizeable difference, and visibly the difference is quite ostensible.
OS - LG's reputation with updates is worse than any other manufacturer out there. On the G2x they promised an update to gingerbread in "a few weeks", and that "few weeks" turned into several months. When they do actually update the spectrum to ICS the Galaxy Nexus will be close to getting Jellybean and will already have had multiple incremental updates already. Not to mention that the ICS update will likely be the first and last update the Spectrum will see.
As for things that you might be missing, one the that jumps out at me is the lack of NFC. I refuse to purchase a phone that does not have nfc. NFC is due to really pick up this year, and I'm not the least bit interested in any device that will lack this.
Overall the main reason I wouldn't give this phone a second thought is...IT'S AN LG PHONE. That alone is enough reason to give me pause. LG's reputation in the cell phone world is worse than horrid. They make buggy devices and then don't support them. Heck when they finally did update the g2x to gingerbread, they still left it with a froyo kernel! WTF! The fact that this phone is made by LG is enough to make it an object of derision. I would advise you to forego that phone. Friends don't let friends use LG phones.

Spectrum has the same specs as the LG Nitro for ATT. Horrendous battery life. That's why I returned the Nitro and got the Galaxy Nexus.

The Spectrum is thoroughly unimpressive after using it for a few days. Compared to the Nexus it just feels wrong in my hand. I'm afraid to see how diluted ICS is going to be once the manufacturers add their skins on top of them; it will NOT be the same experience that you get on the Nexus.
That being said the great thing about having multiple devices available is there is something to fit the needs of just about anyone. So if that's a better fit for you then go for it...
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mysterioustko said:
Friends don't let friends use LG phones.
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Ha! Well put. I carried the Revolution as my company phone for a while before upgrading to the Rezound and I'll agree, LG Android phones are crap. Also, add stated NFC is something that I wouldn't buy a phone without and there are a lot of things to consider when comparing processors and cameras; clock speed and megapixels are not the only factors.
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Thanks to all. I'll stay with GN. I do like my phone. But as always when you see something better at least on paper you start thinking. Several years back I used to have an LG phone (not android). It wasn't that bad.
Anyway, I'm not changing my login to LGowner. GNowner - that is.

well i love ur username but if u decide to change phones its going to sound kinda wierd like "i have the htc diamond touch 4g nexus tron 2" but my name is gnowner

GNowner said:
Thanks to all. I'll stay with GN. I do like my phone. But as always when you see something better at least on paper you start thinking. Several years back I used to have an LG phone (not android). It wasn't that bad.
Anyway, I'm not changing my login to LGowner. GNowner - that is.
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For the sake of argument (lol) I'll just throw out there that the Spectrum is not better on paper. An inferior processor, ips screen (IMO is not on par with amoled displays), and no nfc. It is not better on paper.

mysterioustko said:
For the sake of argument (lol) I'll just throw out there that the Spectrum is not better on paper. An inferior processor, ips screen (IMO is not on par with amoled displays), and no nfc. It is not better on paper.
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I'm far from being an expert. For average user 1.5 > 1.2. In terms of screen quality I watched the presentation from CES and the guy sounded very much convincing.

People who say Samsung is bad at updating have never had the displeasure of using a LG. LG is the company who releases phones Q3 2011 with 2.2 and it seems like LG has forgotten that phone already.
Google should not give licenses(market access) to companies requesting it to release a phone running a Version that was replaced more then 6 month in the past. So LGs issue is partially googles for being so lax on giving the license out.

mysterioustko said:
For the sake of argument (lol) I'll just throw out there that the Spectrum is not better on paper. An inferior processor, ips screen (IMO is not on par with amoled displays), and no nfc. It is not better on paper.
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I give credit where credit is due. The ips screen is absolutely beautiful. Much better than the gnex. The lag on the UI and horrendous battery life is what kills it.

For what it's worth, I love my Gnex. But if I needed to be away from a charger for more than 8 hours (where I would be using my phone, not just idle stand by time) I would carry my LG Revolution. It's rock solid stable overclocked to 1.9 ghz, and with the 3000 mah extended battery, I get all day and all night use out of my phone. You pay a premium for a 4.65 screen, and that premium is battery drain. The Gnex is superior to my revo in every way except battery life, but sometimes battery life is the most important thing in a phone. (good thing I have two lines, I can choose which phone to take with me depending on how long I need the battery to last!) all that being said, I'm not usually away from a charger, so the battery life of the Gnex is not a deal breaker for me, It hasn't let me down yet, it did get down to 2 per cent once, because I forgot to put it on the charger in a low signal area for 8 hours, but that was my fault, not the phone's fault!

ozymandiaz said:
For what it's worth, I love my Gnex. But if I needed to be away from a charger for more than 8 hours (where I would be using my phone, not just idle stand by time) I would carry my LG Revolution. It's rock solid stable overclocked to 1.9 ghz, and with the 3000 mah extended battery, I get all day and all night use out of my phone. You pay a premium for a 4.65 screen, and that premium is battery drain. The Gnex is superior to my revo in every way except battery life, but sometimes battery life is the most important thing in a phone. (good thing I have two lines, I can choose which phone to take with me depending on how long I need the battery to last!) all that being said, I'm not usually away from a charger, so the battery life of the Gnex is not a deal breaker for me, It hasn't let me down yet, it did get down to 2 per cent once, because I forgot to put it on the charger in a low signal area for 8 hours, but that was my fault, not the phone's fault!
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Well any phone with a 3000mAh battery is going to be solid on battery life and give you a day's use... You're comparing the revolution with a 3000mAh battery to a GN with a 1750mAh.

The Gnex, even if there were a 3000 mah battery available for it (which there isn't) would not get near the life that the revolution does. That's not knocking the Gnex, but pumping out the better resolution on a much larger screen, using more cores, is going to use much more battery. It's just a fact of life. The Revolution, even on the stock 1500 (or so, I think it's actually 1450 or something) battery is going to last longer than the Gnex, due to the smaller resolution and screen size. My point was only that the more the phone can do, the shorter time the battery lasts.

I've read somewhere that Galaxy Nexus' screen, being Amoled, will eventually have screen burn in. LG Spectrum's IPS display will not have any piece of that.

Went to the verizon store today to see which phone I liked better. In my opinion the Spectrum's screen is superior to the Nexus's screen. I compared them at min, mid, and max brightness while web surfing and watching HD videos. I also like the glass on the spectrum more than the nexus, it was much smoother on the spectrum. If there turns out to be a good community on XDA for the spectrum, I would get it over the nexus. However, given that I don't know if that will be the case, my choice is much harder. I think the UI is a little buggy on the spectrum and LG has had some issues with timely updates. The nexus already has a huge community here with custom tweaks and roms, and ICS is obviously better than gingerbread.
I am hoping some in depth reviews pop-up over the weekend for the spectrum.
EDIT: Also did some speed tests, Spectrum had an upload speed of around 11 Mbps whereas the Nexus barley got 6 Mbps. Download was inconsistent, Nexus got around 11 Mbps to 13 Mbps, Spectrum got 12 Mpbs to 17 Mbps. Online results are better for the Nexus, wonder if it is just the area I am in

[Q] is it worth upgrading from Droid RAZR to Epic 4G touch?

as the title says, i currently use a Droid RAZR which has awesome built quality, good display, very good audio quality. its just like i everything wanted but somehow i still have the urge to desire for something better
the things s i am looking at is
bigger and sharper display 4.5" super amoled
good audio quality
better camera
good audio quality
good build quality and doesn't feel cheap
good battery life
better performance
so far the epic 4g touch have the advantage of display, speed and camera
with the recent update to droid razr that is supposed to make image quality better, i am now unsure how it stacks up
the audio quality, build quality, battery life seems to be worse than razr
so is it worth upgrading? if so, why do you think so?

I don't know if I would consider it an upgrade. Although both are terrific phones. I think the biggest difference between the two would be the service provider. You just can't compare Sprint 2 Verizon. Verizon dominates in all playing fields, accept for price. Although I am partial to the Epic, because that is the phone I have, you still have an excellent device. If anything I would wait for the Galaxy S3. It is rumored to come out some time within the first half of 2012.

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I don't know if I would consider it an upgrade. Although both are terrific phones. I think the biggest difference between the two would be the service provider. You just can't compare Sprint 2 Verizon. Verizon dominates in all playing fields, accept for price. Although I am partial to the Epic, because that is the phone I have, you still have an excellent device. If anything I would wait for the Galaxy S3. It is rumored to come out some time within the first half of 2012.
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carrier is not an issue as i dont use it as a phone but rather a device i use to browse web, watch videos, listen to music, take photo and video, etc...
in fact, my razr is bad esn and have no carrier at all
tablet is not an option to me

raclimja said:
carrier is not an issue as i dont use it as a phone but rather a device i use to browse web, watch videos, listen to music, take photo and video, etc...
in fact, my razr is bad esn and have no carrier at all
tablet is not an option to me
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I'll be honest, I wouldn't do it. This is a great phone, but with so many things on the way, I think you should hold off and wait for sprint's LTE network. Also, quad core phones are probably on the horizon. I mean, this phone is fast and at the moment, could do just about anything you ask it to do, but that may not be the case in 6 months to a year.

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I'll be honest, I wouldn't do it. This is a great phone, but with so many things on the way, I think you should hold off and wait for sprint's LTE network. Also, quad core phones are probably on the horizon. I mean, this phone is fast and at the moment, could do just about anything you ask it to do, but that may not be the case in 6 months to a year.
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im not getting the quad core phone because i have no intention of shelling out money full prize
my situation right now is that i could get the epic 4g touch and sell my razr and it would cost me little but the question is, is it worth giving up the razr for the epic 4g?

raclimja said:
im not getting the quad core phone because i have no intention of shelling out money full prize
my situation right now is that i could get the epic 4g touch and sell my razr and it would cost me little but the question is, is it worth giving up the razr for the epic 4g?
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I think that's for you to decide ultimately. I can tell you this though, I love this phone. It has its downfalls, it has a horrible gps signal at essentially all times and seems to occasionally freeze. However, the thing is so powerful and fast that I really could care less about that stuff. The razr, as far as materials, is built much better and is more solid structurally. But I love this thing and if you really don't wanna wait for the LTE network, then maybe you should dive in. I doubt you'll be disappointed with it.

Freeroot said:
I think that's for you to decide ultimately. I can tell you this though, I love this phone. It has its downfalls, it has a horrible gps signal at essentially all times and seems to occasionally freeze. However, the thing is so powerful and fast that I really could care less about that stuff. The razr, as far as materials, is built much better and is more solid structurally. But I love this thing and if you really don't wanna wait for the LTE network, then maybe you should dive in. I doubt you'll be disappointed with it.
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My gps works every ware instantly never freezes either running starburst
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I do have GPS related issues, mostly just locking in on location. But nothing too hard-core.

Freeroot said:
I'll be honest, I wouldn't do it. This is a great phone, but with so many things on the way, I think you should hold off and wait for sprint's LTE network. Also, quad core phones are probably on the horizon. I mean, this phone is fast and at the moment, could do just about anything you ask it to do, but that may not be the case in 6 months to a year.
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I agree, I wouldn't upgrade to the epic from the razr either. you aren't gaining much. i suggest you look into the galaxy note if you want to use it just for browsing web & media consumption. as far as I know, you get the exynos processor with the 5.3" @ >720p display display. much better device in my opinion.

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My gps works every ware instantly never freezes either running starburst
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Coming from an htc phone, trust me, this thing has gps issues. It's a known issue and is relatively common with samsung devices. I had freezing issues on stock ek02 and that was one of the big determining factors for me rooting. I'm still having freezing issues and have heard of others having the same issue. It still may very well be an isolated issue and in the future I will treat it as such.

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I agree, I wouldn't upgrade to the epic from the razr either. you aren't gaining much. i suggest you look into the galaxy note if you want to use it just for browsing web & media consumption. as far as I know, you get the exynos processor with the 5.3" @ >720p display display. much better device in my opinion.
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i would jump on that in a heartbeat if you could find me one for $210 no contract
thats the cost of epic 4g touch im eyeballing right now

Just for the pure fact your on Verizons network is enough...The Epic 4G Touch is the best phone ive owned...Spec and build quality is to notch. The 1080p video is imo better than the Iphone. Sprint is the way to go for data...and phone selection. Priceplan wise you dont have to worry about overages and data price plans...is all included.
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[All Carriers] How long until...

How long until you believe this phone becomes obsolete? I hear a lot of people (and read them, too) say that this is probably the first phone they'd go the full 2 years with...however, being realistic, when was the last time you made it two years with the same device? I haven't gone two years with the same device since the original Razr was in style.
I know, I know, at 2gb ram, dual core, etc, this phone is far from becoming obsolete, so I'll rephrase that question for you: What feature on a future phone would make you make the switch from your Galaxy S3? Or are you confident enough that there will be no other phone in the next two years that can replace it?

When they release phones with 16 core Opterons in them
In the wise words of amd..:
MOAR CORES!!!!!
/sarcasm

My old s1 still works great
And really do we need to be able to play skyrim on a phone
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I've actually been impressed with mobile gaming...never was big on it but I have played 3D Spiderman, GTA 3, Fifa12, PES 2011 and 2012, NBA Jam, etc...been a great experience recently
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gtuansdiamm said:
My old s1 still works great
And really do we need to be able to play skyrim on a phone
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Yes
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I don't know that I have a feature that I would jump ship for at this time ... but I wonder if, in 2 years, the size and use of applications will make even 2 gb of ram obsolete?
I'm in the camp that I can see keeping this phone throughout contract, but it is hard to tell if, in 1.5 to 2 years time, 2 GB of ram is actually not enough to keep up with programs/OS requirements. I don't necessarily think so, but remember back when 256MB of ram was a lot? That wasn't TOO long ago.
But, since I don't use my phone for intense gaming, I see this phone in my future for a long while - at least until the sandwich-making feature phone is announced.

I don't think it being obsolete would be the problem. I'll just want something newer at some point before two years. My Evo 3D could have easily lasted another year for my uses, but I still got a GS3.
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banzaiwolfe said:
I don't think it being obsolete would be the problem. I'll just want something newer at some point before two years. My Evo 3D could have easily lasted another year for my uses, but I still got a GS3.
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You and I think alike. Also had Evo 3D, Razr, GNex, but still had to have the S3 and more than likely getting the Note 2 when it comes out
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Ill keep mine the whole 2 years (well 20 months or whatever it is) just like I have done with every other phone. While there may be something new and better out if you are always waiting for that you will never have a phone. That and the cost to buy phones off contract now are more than I want to spend.

Sccrluk9 said:
Ill keep mine the whole 2 years (well 20 months or whatever it is) just like I have done with every other phone. While there may be something new and better out if you are always waiting for that you will never have a phone. That and the cost to buy phones off contract now are more than I want to spend.
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That's why you make a friend who works for AT&T and gets all the new phones free who can turn around and sell em to u for 100-150...lol
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It will become obsolete sometime between Q4 2012 & Q2 2013. Qualcomm are already prepping the S4 QUAD for tablets this year and its performace is roughly x2 the Dual S4, and far exceeds the Exynos 4212+Tegra 3 if I read correctly. Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings(Imaginations is like a high-end Nvidia in the mobile-space, Adreno mid, and Tegra mid-high).
For some reason I feel someone is gonna make a 1080P phone, which is useless btw--just had to throw that out there for those that were unaware. Cores cores and more cores will probably be one of the more popular acts we see though, and 2GB-4GB Ram will be standard. Unfortunately I wish these companies would realize they need to relax b/c optimizations are practically nonexistent with Stock Android phones. I hate to constantly reference Apple & WP7/8, though it's a must. When i hear people telling me stuff like the HOAX or S3, or whatever dual/quad lags--lag. Seriously, these phones are using CPUs that theoretically should outperform the 4S/iPd3, but that's normally not the case. We are getting to a point where everyone is rushing to get out the latest and greatest, however all the hardware don't mean **** when the software can't match it.
P.S. Sorry about going off on a rant.

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We are getting to a point where everyone is rushing to get out the latest and greatest, however all the hardware don't mean **** when the software can't match it.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again here, I love Android OS but in terms of refinement iOS is better put together overall (speed, battery life, overall smoothness). Thats just my opinion.
and yes, quad core, 2GB RAM-LTE device is already out there in Korea... it wont be long until our dual core, 2GB RAM, LTE gets outdone hardware-wise down here
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I have been so disappointed with the radio in my t-mobile s3 because I cannot stream music without it cutting out constantly. I am actually going to demand a microsim adapter from them and return to my vibrant. If my data sucks so bad that I cannot consistently stream music in the car, what's the point of owning this without calling it just a pda.
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I have been so disappointed with the radio in my t-mobile s3 because I cannot stream music without it cutting out constantly. I am actually going to demand a microsim adapter from them and return to my vibrant. If my data sucks so bad that I cannot consistently stream music in the car, what's the point of owning this without calling it just a pda.
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What are u streaming? And what coverage do you have? 3G? H+?
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I've said it before and I'll say it again here, I love Android OS but in terms of refinement iOS is better put together overall (speed, battery life, overall smoothness). Thats just my opinion.
and yes, quad core, 2GB RAM-LTE device is already out there in Korea... it wont be long until our dual core, 2GB RAM, LTE gets outdone hardware-wise down here
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And it only took around 2 months for it to become obsolete then, not ideal in the world I would prefer, but I suppose it can't be helped. This phone could had been so much more if Samsung stuck with the SGX instead of adopting the Mali-400. It would had been so cool to have the CPU part of the S4 combined with a dual/quad SGX543/544 like the ipad/iphones. Those GPUs outperform even the silly Tegra 3 & its fancy 16 cores(which are just 16 weak cores throw together ). I don't know what Sammy or Qualcomm were thinking about. Everyone is just dropping the ball all over the place these days.

I'm not really sure, mainly because I'm not entirely vested in this phone as it is, so it probably wouldn't take much, provided I could sell this one and cover the majority cost of a replacement phone.
I think something with sufficient horsepower to run some things which even this phone can't, but that remains to be seen. One thing that could almost definitely sell me is a flagship phone like this one that has a hardware keyboard. The problem is that I'm in the minority, so a flagship Galaxy S or Nexus phone is highly unlikely to have one, and I care ever so slightly more about the fact that flagship phones have thriving development communities, whereas one-off phones, which I may like more, won't get the same kind of attention from either developers or manufacturers.

I'll keep my phone until my contract is up. I always have (except for my BB Storm which I *****ed about until they upgraded me). My OG Droid Inc lasted for 2 years until I got this S3 and it was still in like new condition. I was tired of the small screen, but the devs here kept the phone fresh.
Hell, part of me misses my Inc. (Love this phone, though.)
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Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings.
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Do you mean the dual core 800MHz in the 4S? That is Apple's current offering.
Since the definition of obsolete is...
1. out of use or practice; not current
2. out of date; unfashionable or outmoded
An old Startac is obsolete because it It can no longer be used. My old Motorola RAZR is not obsolete because I can still use it
for it's intended purpose.
I would say the phone will not be obsolete for many years to come. How can a device me considered obsolete if there is a phone
with a faster CPU or more memory? The phone can still be used for it's intended purpose.
My S3 can not do anything my Vibrant couldn't (with the same mechanicals), it only does it better.
Ian

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Do you mean the dual core 800MHz in the 4S? That is Apple's current offering.
Since the definition of obsolete is...
1. out of use or practice; not current
2. out of date; unfashionable or outmoded
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Actually when I said latest offering I was referencing the iPad 3. And actually I stated the GPU in Android devices are all obsolete(as in not current in terms of power). The Legendary SGX543 MP4 in the iPad 3 mops the floor of every single Android device to ever touch this world, even the soon to be made Adreno 320 in the new S4 QUAD(snapdragon) fails to match the creature. Even the 4S' SGX543 MP2 is barely phased by the Mali 400, Adreno 225, and Tegra 3's laughable 16 core toy. I have no doubt that the S3's CPU is superior at all.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/4
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
^Just look there, every time Apple makes everyone look like a joke. As much as I dislike Apple's methods and price gouging what I say it true.

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It will become obsolete sometime between Q4 2012 & Q2 2013. Qualcomm are already prepping the S4 QUAD for tablets this year and its performace is roughly x2 the Dual S4, and far exceeds the Exynos 4212+Tegra 3 if I read correctly. Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings(Imaginations is like a high-end Nvidia in the mobile-space, Adreno mid, and Tegra mid-high).
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Obsolete (by my definition) doesn't mean that a newer/better product exists. Every device would be a obsolete within a few months if that were the case. To me obsolescence means that it either doesn't perform modern tasks acceptably or a new product feature is so desirable that you simply don't want your old device anymore.
We all know the S3 will handle Jelly Bean beautifully. I'm pretty confident it will be good for Key Lime Pie as well. I got close to 2 years from my OG Epic (Galaxy S1) and only upgraded short of 2 years because I could. With the strong CM/AOKP support this phone has, I'm fully confident I'll have this phone the full 2 years. Unless I break it, heh.

Would you recommend the Nexus?

I'm thinking of buying one, it's in the price range I'm looking at ($80-$100 on swappa), and it seems like it still has good dev support.
The Nexus is almost 3 years old, those that still have it, are you keeping it because you like it, or just because (don't want to loose your data plan for example).
Thanks
Dan

It's a decent phone and there is still some Dev support. I bought mine about a year ago and have been satisfied. Battery life sucks compared to newer phones signal isn't to great compared to my RAZR. But all in all it having an unlocked BL on Verizon makes it all worth while. I thoroughly enjoy mine and will only move if nexus 6 is unlocked on Verizon.
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I can join my previous speakers. It has a very bad battery, it's lags often in apps and the screen is very worn because of this early AMOLED technologie, BUT if you have only 100€ its one of the better phones. I'm using it right now because my nexus 5 were broken and I really like it because it just works. However if you have $50 more to spend when you should buy the moto g. It has clearly more power and offical support by motorola.

no. this phone is terrible, and i'm currently looking into buying a replacement battery for my S3 since it's been sitting in my drawer and i have no idea where the battery went, plus it's broken
i can probably find some way to fix it on ADB, but if not, i'll just wait until i upgrade then i'll get the oneplus one
seriously this phone sucks, there is nothing to recommend about it

No man dont do it .. phone performance is pretty random, dont know why, sometimes it flies like an S4, sometimes it lagz and freezes like an S1..

I've been very satisfied with my phones performance. But I wouldn't recommend it if you don't like to mess around with kernels, ROMs and settings.
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Maximinus I said:
I've been very satisfied with my phones performance. But I wouldn't recommend it if you don't like to mess around with kernels, ROMs and settings.
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Thanks for all the responses. I actually do like flashing roms. Should've given more info in OP. I currently have a verizon s4 but since a warranty replacement a few months ago i no longer have an unlocked (exploitable) bootloader and am stuck with touchwiz roms and no custom kernels.
Use my phone mostly for web browsing, xda app, Pandora, Google music - no gaming, coupled that with the fact that i can use the $100-$125 difference I'll make after selling the s4, thought this phone might work.
Will have to think about it a bit more.

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Thanks for all the responses. I actually do like flashing roms. Should've given more info in OP. I currently have a verizon s4 but since a warranty replacement a few months ago i no longer have an unlocked (exploitable) bootloader and am stuck with touchwiz roms and no custom kernels.
Use my phone mostly for web browsing, xda app, Pandora, Google music - no gaming, coupled that with the fact that i can use the $100-$125 difference I'll make after selling the s4, thought this phone might work.
Will have to think about it a bit more.
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Well, web browsing has become hard since 4.4.x. To be honest, KitKat is a mess on this phone. I hope new GPU drivers and 3.4 kernel will help.
If I were you I would buy a Moto G.

I'm using Gnex for a half a year. I bought used. So not because of data plan.
For me Gnex can still give what i need for "normal" daily use - sms, browser, messenger, driving assist, news reading, some games ....
So it depends on your need
best regards

It's a beautiful device, but it's definitely not the best. I absolutely love the unobtrusive design of the front -- just plain black. The phone is the exact right size for me, and the volume and power buttons are in exactly the right place; however the bezels are quite large in comparison to newer phones. This makes the structural integrity of the phone better, but it isn't really nice to me. The back of the phone has a comfortable plastic "grippy" feeling that makes it easy to hold, especially with the curved extrusion at the bottom by the speaker grill.
The speaker is awful, as with all Samsung devices. It's a back-facing speaker that's tiny and easy to cover up. Not much of a problem if you use earphones like I do.
It easily lasts me through a school day, though it only lasts about 4 hours streaming video. Its dual core processor is definitely outdated and consumes far more powererformance than any modern phone.
The screen is on-par with the Galaxy S3 screen, which isn't a compliment. It's low-resolution in comparison to new phones (1280x720), it's hot (as in it actually feels hot) and consumes a heck of a lot of battery very quickly. The colour is amazing, vibrant and simply gorgeous... but, within a few months, you get screen burn-in which is especially noticeable in low light -- speaking of which, the screen in low light is far worse than any IPS with a slightly grainy image, though it does retain a good contrast. Its slightly curved display prevents it from scratching anything facing down and, in my opinion, makes it easier to touch things at the top of the screen.
The phone's radio is only GSM (unless you're going for Sprint or Verizon), so if you're wanting LTE, tough luck. It also doesn't have FM or AM radio if you're into that.
The camera's not the best, but it does the job. The flash is often over-bright, and lacks HDR, motion stabilisation and is only 5 Megapixels. Front camera is 720p.
So why buy this phone? If you can get it really cheap, go for it. If not, go for something newer like the Moto X, Moto G, Nexus 5 or the upcoming Nexus 6 for a similar, updated experience.
Just remember, it's truly an Android modder's dream. It's extremely mod-able with a decent sized community. In my opinion, it is still the best phone I have ever used. I find that just the pure feeling and look of the phone is enough to keep me with it. Also, with recent additions to the phone like F2FS, graphics drivers, new kernels, new ROMs etc., the phone is still very usable for just about everything -- even most gaming.

For $100 i would buy it. The moto g is comparable and faster but almost $100 more. But I think your question is already answered
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bought mine for 70 dollars one month ago, definetily worth it.

I would much rather use an s4 with touchwiz than use a galaxy nexus. The gnex is the second worst android phone that I've ever owned.

You really can't compare a three year old phone to a phone that is just over a year old. Of course the s4 will be better but touchwizz yuck it would probably be just as slow as a galaxy nexus.
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Appreciate everyone's response, thanks

It's a good phone when it was released but the battery life is quite short even though I don't have a lot of apps on it. When the battery life is in the red, it usually last around 5 minutes then it shuts down. I think it was better than than iPhone 4 at its time since it was one of the first phone with a larger screen.

I agree with the other posts.
Honestly, I think CM10 runs amazing on the phone and the signal is actually quite good with that version. 4.4.4 doesn't do well on it for the signal...at least for me. I have been trying many ROMs / Kernels and I have the same luck with them all. I only have mine because I bought it for like $80 on ebay and still have the unlimited plan with Verizon so I don't want to upgrade to a new phone unless I pay the big dollars.
Battery life...is crap like everyone else states. I bought three batteries for this phone for that reason and always have it plugged in, which is why I actually have burn in from my apps.

I own GNex for almost 3 years now and here are few things coming into my mind right now:
Terrible camera
Terrible speaker (Very low volume)
Slow as hell
Worn screen
Incredibly short battery life
Also, with such limited memory multitasking is pretty much not existent if you like installing many apps
Honestly, there is not a single day that I don't want to throw my unit against the wall.
Do yourself a favor and stay away from this peace of junk.
N4 would be a much better option http://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked/us

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I'm thinking of buying one, it's in the price range I'm looking at ($80-$100 on swappa), and it seems like it still has good dev support.
The Nexus is almost 3 years old, those that still have it, are you keeping it because you like it, or just because (don't want to loose your data plan for example).
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Dan
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I'm keeping it because I don't have much money on a new phone and there isn't much on the market that really makes me want to spend anything.
The Galaxy Nexus is a really ****ty phone. If it wasn't a Nexus it would get zero respect from me.
I mean for an old and cheap phone, it's probably the best you can buy at this moment but I'd suggest saving a few more dollars and getting something better.

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N4 would be a much better option http://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked/us
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Thanks but on verizon, looks like that gsm only.