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I'm on AT&T and wanting a new phone. The GNex is rumored to drop for AT&T any day now with Sprint getting it on 4/22. I've been planning on making that my next phone for a while now, was just waiting for AT&T get it. Then I started hearing these rumors about the GS3 being out as soon as the end of April, latest being end of May. Don't know how much weight that holds, but if it were true, should I wait it out and go for the GS3? Or just go with the GNex when it comes out?
S3 announcement is supposed to be may 5th in London (from memory, an event was announced a few days ago- its definitely early may though) so that's at least June before its in stores.
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S3 announcement is supposed to be may 5th in London (from memory, an event was announced a few days ago- its definitely early may though) so that's at least June before its in stores.
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not only at least june before it hits stores but at least june before it hits stores in the UK america is seriously lacking when it comes to new Galaxy devices the GS2 was what.. like 6 months old when it finally launched in america? Not to mention we got the **** end of the stick with a phone that had a completely different chipset..
Wait the announcement of the s3 and see if the s3 is better than the nexus and if you can wait, wait !
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Some of the rumors I heard said that Samsung was going to try and emulate Apple's strategy and have the phone globally available immediately after the announcement. And that it's going to have 1.5GHz Exynos 4412 quad-core CPU (Samsung's Cortex A9) and 4.8" 1080p Super AMOLED Plus. Others said it's just going to be what the iPhone 4s was to the to iPhone 4 in relation to the S2. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Does anyone know when the GNex is actually going to release for AT&T?
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Some of the rumors I heard said that Samsung was going to try and emulate Apple's strategy and have the phone globally available immediately after the announcement. And that it's going to have 1.5GHz Exynos 4412 quad-core CPU (Samsung's Cortex A9) and 4.8" 1080p Super AMOLED Plus. Others said it's just going to be what the iPhone 4s was to the to iPhone 4 in relation to the S2. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Does anyone know when the GNex is actually going to release for AT&T?
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I'll be waiting till may 5th if its not day one in america or shortly there after I will be buying Gnex for sprint. Also the original S2 had exynos processor but the american version didn't =[
Yeah, I guess that's my plan, too. Wait for the launch and see what it actually releases as and then make the decision.
The Galaxy Nexus is OFFICIALLY for sale on Google Play either thru the app or online for GSM customers, i.e. Tmo and ATT The 16gb version. No biggie
I was excited and still like the phone, although from Day one when I got my Tmo Galaxy S2 (which I love) some bloggers, I forget said that the hardware on the GS2 I have is better than the Nexus
Prolly true so I have to decide do I want pure Google NOW and also ICS NOW OR Wait for ICS to come to the GS2 I have OR wait for the next GS3?
Idk. between the current Tmo GS2 and the Nexus, is it worth it spending an hour or less coming up with an ebay ad to sell, then order it??
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Idk. between the current Tmo GS2 and the Nexus, is it worth it spending an hour or less coming up with an ebay ad to sell, then order it??
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It takes you an hour to post something on eBay?
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It takes you an hour to post something on eBay?
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Probably less. But if you are anal or want it perfect, yes.
In any case, longer than it took you to make that donkey of a comment.
I know many a senior member here who would not post that
And from one member to another, and one human to another, if you dont have anything positive to ad, dont say it
You need to either lookup or learn to incorporate paradigm into life and your help here. How do you know one isn't on disability, maybe can't create an ad that quickly maybe due to physical ailments, or psych ones like add or simply can't concentrate. Like me
But I wont say all that. I will just ignore my thoughts, you do also, and let me thank you for your help!!!
Didn't mean any offense by that man...I was just legit asking out of concern. Lighten up a bit...
Anyway if you're trying to decide between a sgii or a galaxy nexus. Everyone here is going to tell you to go nexus route mostly because of the great developer support it carries and the priority it gets when it comes to google updates.
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Thank You. Gave you thanks
So iyho, if it is no problem to sell the GS2 I already have to get the newly available GSM from Google, then go ahead and do it even if the newest Galaxy will be out 3-6 months from now. (keeping in mind that I don't mind getting a new phone soon after) In other words, the perks of pure google and ICS are worth it--better sooner than later.
Thanks again
Anyone have an opinion on the HTC One X? That is also one of my choices.
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Anyone have an opinion on the HTC One X? That is also one of my choices.
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I haven't personally used one yet, but the general reviews all say the same thing: fantastic looking, powerful phone. Unfortunately battery life is mediocre and Sense 4.0 is a little wonky.
Personally I'd grab a GNexus or wait for the next Galaxy phone. The Nexus is plenty powerful, VERY simple to mod, and you can expand the battery with almost zero additional size to the phone.
Lately Samsung hardware is the hardware to beat. They're on a serious roll with their mobile devices.
May is only several days away. I'd wait for the Galaxy announcement and release date. You can make your mind up then. I just think it would be silly to buy a One X or a GNexus before seeing what is happening with the GSIII. Waiting a month for what could be a killer phone is worth it considering how many years you'll likely be using whatever you buy.
Personally I decided to pick up a galaxy nexus last week and have been absolutely thrilled. This is my first nexus device and I can't believe how nice stock Android is. Hardware wise, it doesn't get much better than the gnex and probably won't for a while. Quad cores are cool, but do they matter? The gnex does everything and you'll never have to worry about waiting for updates to the newest version of Android. Even the nexus one which is 2 years old runs 4.0.4 without issue, whereas much newer phones like the RAZR are stuck on gingerbread. I think the hardware is good enough at this point that the software is really what limits you. Just my $0.02.
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IMO Gnex for sure or wait on the next Nexus! Nexus phones always will have better developer support due to the nature and openness of the device and ASOP. For me at least that is the deciding factor.
It depends on how much you are ready to spend. Right now, the G Nex is $440.
When the Galaxy S III comes out, it will be about 700$. You will have to wait a while for the price to come down, and by then we'll have the next Nexus device.
Moreover, having the G Nex means you will have the next Android version sooner than Galaxy S III.
But if raw hardware power is what you are looking for and money isn't much of a concern, Galaxy S III is the device for you.
The gnex is actually now $400 straight from Google For what you're getting, I think that's a steal.
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Sounds like the S3 is going to be pretty BA.
GNex is at the top of my list. I still want to wait and see what the GS3 has to offer, though.
GS3 threads here and there, lets add this to the mix.
Personally I'm eligible for an upgrade now. My expectations were to upgrade from S2 to S3. After the announcement I'm left wondering to buy or not to buy?
IMO breakdown:
It's S3 (feels like going from iphone 4 to 4s).
NFC on sprint (matching competition)
Processor (although not clear, most likely match of inches)
Screen/display (matching to behind competition)
Camera (not clear of quality improvement over S2)
Everything else pretty much matching competition.
What I was hoping for (to blast past others):
2ghz quadcore or similar
2gb ram
12mp camera with better/improved lense
Thinner to match the thinnest
Better screen display / resolution
Close to zero side beasal/ edge to edge screen
I feel like Samsung is wrong in this instance of copying apple with the idea of iphone 4 then 4s. Because, there is no iphone competition or choices. Samsung's reputation IMO is on the bottom of the list... (a) released s2 on sprint with bugs, los, charging problems and it took them MONTHS to fix/ release an update. ICS still coming soon 6months later. TW is not pretty.
Now don't get me wrong, I like my S2. The question is $500 to spend on s3 to get nfc and processor to load an app in 1sec vs 1.5 secs? The software will most likely be ported to s2.
After purchasing the ASUS transformer prime, I realized what excellent product support really means (3 updates within days/weeks to squash bugs, ics within a month, no failed promises). ASUS is as sexy if not sexier thanSamsung.
Overall, I went from 100% purchase of s3 to WAIT and see Asus phone, evo 4g lte, etc...
Not too impressed, I'll see what will be available by release date and if waiting few months to get siik with another phone, i'll definitely be waiting...
If you disagree, that's great. If you can't wait to buy, great. If you hate me, thats cool. BUT. lets be honest, it didn't blow me away in any way or squash the competition.
Alex1x said:
GS3 threads here and there, lets add this to the mix.
Personally I'm eligible for an upgrade now. My expectations were to upgrade from S2 to S3. After the announcement I'm left wondering to buy or not to buy?
IMO breakdown:
It's S3 (feels like going from iphone 4 to 4s).
NFC on sprint (matching competition)
Processor (although not clear, most likely match of inches)
Screen/display (matching to behind competition)
Camera (not clear of quality improvement over S2)
Everything else pretty much matching competition.
What I was hoping for (to blast past others):
2ghz quadcore or similar
2gb ram
12mp camera with better/improved lense
Thinner to match the thinnest
Better screen display / resolution
Close to zero side beasal/ edge to edge screen
I feel like Samsung is wrong in this instance of copying apple with the idea of iphone 4 then 4s. Because, there is no iphone competition or choices. Samsung's reputation IMO is on the bottom of the list... (a) released s2 on sprint with bugs, los, charging problems and it took them MONTHS to fix/ release an update. ICS still coming soon 6months later. TW is not pretty.
Now don't get me wrong, I like my S2. The question is $500 to spend on s3 to get nfc and processor to load an app in 1sec vs 1.5 secs? The software will most likely be ported to s2.
After purchasing the ASUS transformer prime, I realized what excellent product support really means (3 updates within days/weeks to squash bugs, ics within a month, no failed promises). ASUS is as sexy if not sexier thanSamsung.
Overall, I went from 100% purchase of s3 to WAIT and see Asus phone, evo 4g lte, etc...
Not too impressed, I'll see what will be available by release date and if waiting few months to get siik with another phone, i'll definitely be waiting...
If you disagree, that's great. If you can't wait to buy, great. If you hate me, thats cool. BUT. lets be honest, it didn't blow me away in any way or squash the competition.
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You're basing your decision on the international version, when sprints variant hasn't even been announced yet. Sprints is coming towards the end of the year. Q3 Samsung will have the quadcore a15 exynos with integrated LTE chip, meaning the sprint variant will most likely be sporting the exynos once again and a far superior processor to anything on the market at 1.5ghz 28nm quadcore SoC with Mali 600 gpu and integrated LTE
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You're basing your decision on the international version, when sprints variant hasn't even been announced yet. Sprints is coming towards the end of the year. Q3 Samsung will have the quadcore a15 exynos with integrated LTE chip, meaning the sprint variant will most likely be sporting the exynos once again and a far superior processor to anything on the market at 1.5ghz 28nm quadcore SoC with Mali 600 gpu and integrated LTE
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Keep dreaming. No way they'll release it with a quad-core A15 Exynos. Maybe a dual-core A15, but a quad-core A15 is almost too insane to comprehend. Worthy of a new phone in itself. I'd bet on a dual-core S4 or Exynos with LTE.
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You're basing your decision on the international version, when sprints variant hasn't even been announced yet. Sprints is coming towards the end of the year. Q3 Samsung will have the quadcore a15 exynos with integrated LTE chip, meaning the sprint variant will most likely be sporting the exynos once again and a far superior processor to anything on the market at 1.5ghz 28nm quadcore SoC with Mali 600 gpu and integrated LTE
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That's some wishful thinking right there... they said US variants are launching in June so most likely we'll see it with an S4 and some minor Sprint mods.
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Oh god quad core A15 LTE will make me absolutely die not to mention sprint is always in front of everybody in specs and idk it might be possible to cause a big wave them bring in the higher end of a high end phone but hey I can pray ^^
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That's some wishful thinking right there... they said US variants are launching in June so most likely we'll see it with an S4 and some minor Sprint mods.
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I heard sprints version isn't coming out til Q4 and the quad core a15 exynos with integrated LTE is supposed to be ready Q3 so its a possibility, just like sprint got the better processor for the ET4G, USA GSM launch is mid to late summer but cdma(sprint) is rumored to be sept-dec launch again. I'm not gonna be upgrading til around then anyways and I'm waiting to see what the next nexus has to offer. LTE hits my area in the phase 2 rollout later this year and early December my 3rd line will be upgrade eligible so ill have 3 upgrades and I'm gonna hold on to my et4g til then since LTE will be available in my area. The one thing I do know is I won't be getting an HTC, I'm boycotting them for their BS unlock which is still locked out. Especially now that instead of the "unlocked" water mark you get a big fat ****TAMPERED**** watermark when you unlock your bootloader. And htcdev unlock is pretty much worthless because you can't do a whole hell of a lot after unlocking without being tied to a PC
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Pheno.menon said:
That's some wishful thinking right there... they said US variants are launching in June so most likely we'll see it with an S4 and some minor Sprint mods.
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Maybe not - Rumors from Japan are that the S. Korea and Japan devices - due out at the end of the month - may have the quad + LTE. And given Sammy's home country status I'd tend to believe that S. Korea would get it first - Japan second due to its proximity and potential customer base.
The device in question - reportedly DoCoMo SC-06D - has already been benchmarked and approved by Japan's version of the FCC. So we'll see if it's really the GS3 or not soon enough.
If its not for the wishful thinking, the GS3 is not worth the super hype. Too bad.
I will have to wait and see what sprint comes up with for their version. I'm not too impressed so far. This will be the first time I can remember that I will probably pass on the newest high end phone sprint releases.
I might as well get it anyways
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I heard sprints version isn't coming out til Q4 and the quad core a15 exynos with integrated LTE is supposed to be ready Q3 so its a possibility, just like sprint got the better processor for the ET4G, USA GSM launch is mid to late summer but cdma(sprint) is rumored to be sept-dec launch again. I'm not gonna be upgrading til around then anyways and I'm waiting to see what the next nexus has to offer. LTE hits my area in the phase 2 rollout later this year and early December my 3rd line will be upgrade eligible so ill have 3 upgrades and I'm gonna hold on to my et4g til then since LTE will be available in my area. The one thing I do know is I won't be getting an HTC, I'm boycotting them for their BS unlock which is still locked out. Especially now that instead of the "unlocked" water mark you get a big fat ****TAMPERED**** watermark when you unlock your bootloader. And htcdev unlock is pretty much worthless because you can't do a whole hell of a lot after unlocking without being tied to a PC
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Either way I'm not changing until next summer - will even have the missus hold off if she can. Next device will be LTE; based on how long it took our MVNO to get the E4GT (March) I'm guessing the S3 right around upgrade time next summer. That is if we stay with them....
....iphone 4s...
....Kyocera echo.......
....galaxy s3........
Bummer
It's my phone...any mis takes...sry
Very disappointed. I thought it was gonna blow the GS2 away but instead is like a GS2 Service pack 1. With that being said....I still have hope for sprint version, they always make their different from others.
Cheers from Japan!
When I first heard about the S3, I thought, finally a quad-core! Can't wait till it hits Japan! I was sooooo hyped because we usually get the cream of the crop here like with the S2 with the exynos dual-core, super amoled screen, mali-400 gpu and what not. But then I found out we are NOT getting the quad-core and getting a 1.5Ghz dual-core which really burst my bubble. Was sooo sad when I FIRST found out about that.
Then I did a little research if you can call it that, on the specs of the Japanese version of the S3.
Well what do you know! Japanese version is getting the msm8960 SoC (S4) which to my surprise, spec wise, is the most powerful chip in the smartphone market! Benchmarks and whatnot show it leaves everything else in the dust like a bugatti veyron racing a nissan micra! WTF?!? ...... Dual-core??? LOL
On top of that, the Japanese version is getting 2 Gigs of ram with 32 Gigs rom.
Woooohoooo! Can't wait till the bomb drops!!! (No pun intended) hehehe I'm totally lovin my S2, Gtab 7 is ok, Gtab 10.1 Lte is ........... alright.
Sorry 'bout goin krayzee but the dual-core just might be alright afterall!
On another note, the first released S3 has the exynos 4212 quad. The Japanese S2 has the exynos 4210 dual. Pin-to-pin is the supposed to be the same.
Anyone think a 4212 in an S2 is doable? I know that some kind of syncing software is needed but what bout the kernel, etc.?
Any opinions?
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Cheers from Japan!
When I first heard about the S3, I thought, finally a quad-core! Can't wait till it hits Japan! I was sooooo hyped because we usually get the cream of the crop here like with the S2 with the exynos dual-core, super amoled screen, mali-400 gpu and what not. But then I found out we are NOT getting the quad-core and getting a 1.5Ghz dual-core which really burst my bubble. Was sooo sad when I FIRST found out about that.
Then I did a little research if you can call it that, on the specs of the Japanese version of the S3.
Well what do you know! Japanese version is getting the msm8960 SoC (S4) which to my surprise, spec wise, is the most powerful chip in the smartphone market! Benchmarks and whatnot show it leaves everything else in the dust like a bugatti veyron racing a nissan micra! WTF?!? ...... Dual-core??? LOL
On top of that, the Japanese version is getting 2 Gigs of ram with 32 Gigs rom.
Woooohoooo! Can't wait till the bomb drops!!! (No pun intended) hehehe I'm totally lovin my S2, Gtab 7 is ok, Gtab 10.1 Lte is ........... alright.
Sorry 'bout goin krayzee but the dual-core just might be alright afterall!
On another note, the first released S3 has the exynos 4212 quad. The Japanese S2 has the exynos 4210 dual. Pin-to-pin is the supposed to be the same.
Anyone think a 4212 in an S2 is doable? I know that some kind of syncing software is needed but what bout the kernel, etc.?
Any opinions?
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Just curious, have the docomo employees started to hint at a release date? I have a relative itching to get this since she refused to get the SC-02B (another immediate relative had it, can't be the same...)
I love the S2. Will not be getting the S3 though unless it really amazes me in hand (highly doubtful). When the S3 was announced I realized what really matters to me in a high end smartphone is screen and build quality. Pentile display?? You gotta be kidding me. I think the S2 display is better looking than the S3. Why would you skimp on display quality? That is literally the most distinctive and used aspect of any smartphone. Oh and also the build design look atrocious. 2011 = IPhone 4s vs S2 2012 = HTC One X vs IPhone 5 Welcome back HTC. Dont know what the hell happened to ya last year, back just in time though. This is all IMO exept S3 screen, it really does look like crap (fact).
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I love the S2. Will not be getting the S3 though unless it really amazes me in hand (highly doubtful). When the S3 was announced I realized what really matters to me in a high end smartphone is screen and build quality. Pentile display?? You gotta be kidding me. I think the S2 display is better looking than the S3. Why would you skimp on display quality? That is literally the most distinctive and used aspect of any smartphone. Oh and also the build design look atrocious. 2011 = IPhone 4s vs S2 2012 = HTC One X vs IPhone 5 Welcome back HTC. Dont know what the hell happened to ya last year, back just in time though. This is all IMO exept S3 screen, it really does look like crap (fact).
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Every review I've read puts the HTC one above the sgs3, even if only slightly. Coworker has the att version and its awesome. Think I'm going to hold off till the jelly bean phones though. I'm really happy with this phone and it runs ics great.
I'll see what the sgs4 looks like compared to what else is out next summer/fall.
plus, with lte still it its baby-stages, I don't want to give up my wimax phone yet. there's no 4g around my house but there is around work
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ya if I lived in a Wimax area I would be hesitant to give up a 4g phone as well. But I don't and Im taking sprints LTE roll out very lighty after the promises of 4g in are area for 2+ years and no delivery. On sprint s website they claim to have 4g in Omaha...but they do not have it anywhere here. Flat out liers! Thats why im jumping ship to At&t, I dont care about umlimited data, sprint will pull it once they roll out LTE everywhere. On a side note if you want out of a sprint contract etf free just flash a VZW prl and roam your ass off ;P
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Sgs3 will be available on sprint by the summer. To sucker in the upgrades. In the winter (Q4) before x-mas is when Samsung unveils new quadcore lte on their new flagship nexus phone. Yes, it will have jelly bean out of the box. Sprint will get it as will verizon & at&t. I will be visiting some of you in the sgs3 forum to see how your jelly bean leaks are panning out!
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Sgs3 will be available on sprint by the summer. To sucker in the upgrades. In the winter (Q4) before x-mas is when Samsung unveils new quadcore lte on their new flagship nexus phone. Yes, it will have jelly bean out of the box. Sprint will get it as will verizon & at&t. I will be visiting some of you in the sgs3 forum to see how your jelly bean leaks are panning out!
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To bad the nexus has always been almost the exact same thing as the S models. Wishful thinking though. Dont get me wrong that would be tight but I HIGHLY doubt it. hopefully sprint wont get it 3 months before the S4 drops like last nexus and the s3
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Title basically says it all. If you are eligible for an upgrade, what phone would you get and why?
The new samsung galaxy s3 because i think the performance of the new exynos quad core processor would be great......like the old exynos on the galaxy s2
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I would also go for the Samsung Galaxy S 3. However, I would like to have a Rezound until then
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Galaxy Nexus for me. Hackability, perfect size, Nexus!
Owning a rebound I can tell you it is a great device. But the battery life is not the best, about 9 hrs moderate use ( the extended battery helps a lot but is bulky). The American version of the galaxy S3 will not have a quad core so I would recommend the rezound or nexus. Both great devices obviously the rezound has sense which I love but if your not into then the nexus would be your best bet.
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Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates
I still wouldn't mind Galaxy Journal. Shame it's being released so late
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Inc4g lte if it has the same camera tech as the one series.
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Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates
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I actually agree with what you say. The next phone I'm getting is most likely a Nexus (assuming Samsung is making it of course) unless Verizon screws us over and ditches the next Nexus. Otherwise I'm going with a GSIII or the iPhone.
"All of those bacon strips"
gsm nexus, or iphone. i can't stand the Android skins.
What would be even better it's if HTC got the next nexus device. Rumor is they were talking to google about it for jelly bean.
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if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
Nit you pretty much summed up my thoughts on the Inc4G. I'd like to see what official cost is and if it's not too bad I may try and score one off contract. I was finding Nexus and Rezounds going for 200-300 on ebay barely used.
I'd skip the Nexus because honestly it seems like it's been pretty lackluster compared to expectations people had for it. I also am not a fan of the whole ICS Holo theme which is why I'm so drawn to Sense4.
SGIII did absolutely nothing for me. The press conference was boring and it looks like just another run of the mill Galaxy phone. Touchwiz is also horrid and really ugly.
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if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
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100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).
well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.
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100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).
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Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
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well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.
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The OG Incredible was my first Android too! It was the perfect intro to Android. I had the original Samsung AMOLED screen, which was much nicer than the SLCD version (imho) so it was gorgeous, and was easy to root. I flashed so many roms on that phone. I'm really surprised I didn't wear out the nand chip. I traded that phone for a Fascinate, with which I had a love-hate relationship. That's where I really learned how to use ADB. I won an LG Revolution from Phone Arena a couple months later, which was okay, but the way that phone was coded together, it was impossible to do anything with it. Plus, is was LTE, so it didn't have working AOSP. No devs ever got the phone, so its development situation was a little lacking. I traded it for my DInc2 about a month after I got it and I've had this phone since August. I've been so much happier having an HTC again. After Sammy and LG, I've been confirmed in my OEM of choice. It's not like Moto is going to sway me. Haha
I pre-ordered the Evo LTE yesterday, as I'm jumping to Sprint. I got bumped off my contract by family because they wouldn't give me the billing account password after they changed it, so I couldn't pay my bill over the phone anymore. They told me I had to drive down 45 minutes every month to pay them, which I couldn't do because I had lost my car in an accident that wasn't even my fault. It sucked. I lost my unlimited data plan.
If I were still on Verizon, I'd be jumping for joy that the Inc4G is a One S variant. The One S outperforms the S4 version of the One X a bit because it's qHD, not 720p. Plus, 4" is the perfect screen size. I don't think I'm gonna like the 4.7" screen on the Evo LTE at first. I'll get used to it, but damn that's a huge phone.
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Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
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i wouldnt use an upgrade on a 6/7 month old phone running an older s3 processor...but thats me
Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...
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Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...
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well thats point, i wont buy something thats already older and tie myself for 20 months to it
and the thing with sense devices is that they historically a wasteland for dev support when another huge one comes out...so id bet you ll loose most of the rezound developers come the fall if verizon launches something that much better
now thats not to say other (new) devs wont step in, like the og inc and evo 4g saw...but stll
buy what you want obviously, but thats my take on things
So what is the deal with the launch! I have heard and read many articles about tomorrow but non with details on the launch.
Who is going to be there tomorrow?
Is this going to be indoors/outdoors on the big screen or what?
Let me know what you think.
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I read somewhere that they are going to show live event on samsung mobile youtube page.
Its in radio city hall near by times square; means close to public.
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I read somewhere that they are going to show live event on samsung mobile youtube page.
Its in radio city hall near by times square; means close to public.
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You heard right, I live around there but I'm pretty sure you need an invite just like the ps4 event.
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It's called an "embargo". That's when Samsung promises that news media will get all the juicy bits and details, but nothing must be officially released until Samsung "lifts" that embargo.
Unfortunately, it's not clear what is allowed, so even "who's who list" will not be announced until the embargo is lifted.
There's a Chinese news site that blasted through the embargo, I'm sure that Samsung will sanction them with much less news in the future. But that is just their evaluation phone, nothing to do about the launch it's self, nor the Tim Cook look alike they've hired to spoof the iPhone in comparison.. (wait, didn't say that. Nothing to see here folks)... :silly:
Link for live unveil on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IDXILsX7_QI
Going on now!!!!
Samsung does really know how to please its customers and demands
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I wasn't really impressed with the software leap but I will make the switch for the hardware and the black phone
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Just watched it live via C-Net.
Wow! I'm actually impressed. Unfortunately you had to wade through a lot of showmanship to get the features, but it was entertaining.
Simply put, it's changing the rules for the next generation of Smartphones.
The addition of 8 sensors to the phone rule out some of the features being back ported to the S3's we have. But still the answer is easy. I want one! :good:
Re: NYC - Times Square - Galaxy S4.
I'll grab that.
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Just watched it live via C-Net.
Wow! I'm actually impressed. Unfortunately you had to wade through a lot of showmanship to get the features, but it was entertaining.
Simply put, it's changing the rules for the next generation of Smartphones.
The addition of 8 sensors to the phone rule out some of the features being back ported to the S3's we have. But still the answer is easy. I want one! :good:
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I agree, the device is insane but they did not say if the US was getting a different processor variant than the international version, instead all 155 countries would get to he device at the same time at the end of April 2013.
Seny from the one and only GS3.
you guys think they'll give us U.S GS3 users an update that will give us most (if not all) of the software features of the Galaxy S 4 like they did for the Galaxy S II?
i sure hope so..lol
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I agree, the device is insane but they did not say if the US was getting a different processor variant than the international version, instead all 155 countries would get to he device at the same time at the end of April 2013.
Seny from the one and only GS3.
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The specs list shows a 1.9 GHz Quad-Core Processor / 1.6 GHz Octa-Core Processor. The selection of processor will be differed by markets. The touchscreen also works while wearing gloves.
http://wirelessandmobilenews.com/20...quad-core-1.6-octa-core-q2-release-dates.html
I'm going to be seriously pissed off if they pull a Qualcomm stunt for the US version again. Seems like that is exactly what they are doing though. I wish they would just give GSM pentaband and Exynos and through CDMA to the wolves...
A lot of the features probably wouldn't work on Qualcomm chips... I seriously doubt the 600 could keep up.
Pretty similar to the s3 just obvious improvements with the hardware. I think us gs3 users are not as impressed but what you expect to since the s3 was soo good what can come after that to impress again, the s3 put the bar so high the s4 is just a minimal update. I still don't believe android is ready for these quad core, octa-core processors.
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I think its pretty much confirmed that Samsung is going to launch a Qualcomm chip here. At the end of the video it says nothing about AWS connectivity for HSPA+ *sigh* I will wait until the 800 is commercially available and see what launches then.
While it may not be a huge software upgrade, I sure would love to have the new hardware... The LPDDR3 alone is going to blow everything else away.
EDIT: Confirmed... 1.9GHz Snapdragon Fusion Pro.
CNET
So American users are getting the shaft again with processing power. I'll wait to use my upgrade on some thing else
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So American users are getting the shaft again with processing power. I'll wait to use my upgrade on some thing else
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The 600 is no slouch but yes, we get the shaft again. Especially on T-Mobile since we can not even use it on the AWS band. at&t users at least have the option of buying unlocked.
Interestingly enough, the US launch partners are at&t, Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cricket, and U.S. Cellular. I think that's a first - Cricket getting the best of the best on launch! Their "pay 1000 dollars for a 600 dollar device" program must be being successful much like T-Mobiles Value Plan device installments have been.
I am going to pass for now. I don't mind Snapdragon chips but they get hot and they suck a lot of power.
Honestly if CDMA was dead, I bet Samsung would make an Exynos for the US but releasing two different processor models in a single market would not only piss off consumers but carriers as well. I don't ever see Samsung licensing CDMA from Qualcomm when they can just get an SoC from them instead. I think we need to be more pissed at Qualcomm for their monopoly stranglehold and their slow development of high end chips. We won't see Samsung chips until Qualcomm is brought down a few notches.
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I think its pretty much confirmed that Samsung is going to launch a Qualcomm chip here. At the end of the video it says nothing about AWS connectivity for HSPA+ *sigh* I will wait until the 800 is commercially available and see what launches then.
While it may not be a huge software upgrade, I sure would love to have the new hardware... The LPDDR3 alone is going to blow everything else away.
EDIT: Confirmed... 1.9GHz Snapdragon Fusion Pro.
CNET
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Actually its still up in the air as it says the pro fusion OR octocore on the sheet, I believe they may go the lessor route as well though as it seems to be the trend of past desisions but its not like there's any other carrier producing better than the pro anyways. Only Samsung put the 8 core out there to begin with and yes if you wait another year sure 25 other devices will be in the mix but that's what the game is and that's not gonna make a difference because there will always be a let down no matter what company is in the hot seat but is it the fact we may not get the octo over the pro which HTC is using the 600 in the One they just released and swear by really a huge let down? If they said the screen was gonna be more like the GS3 that would break the deal since they bragged about 1080.
Seny from the one and only GS3.
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Hello
I just want to collect your guys' opinions regarding the Snap and Exy version of SGS4.
(This is why I am posting this thread on AT&T, Sprint and T-mobile forums, to gather as much as possible)
Since I have partial Korean background, I do catch up with reviews made by Korean forums and their users. (all of them got Exy)
The main problem that was pointed out was overheating problem. Is there any Snap user who's experiencing this issue? (apparently, you have to run hardcore processes for more than a hour)
I heard that Sammy chose to supply 70% of their SGS 4 to the globe with Snap and the reason was that I actually found out the overheating problem later during their development and could not manage to implement all of their productions with Exy. (Despite the fact that different regions have different frequencies. But even so?)
This made me to think that SGS 4 did not receive enough attention that it deserved from Sammy this time. Look, let's be generous and understand that the design belongs to everyone's preferences. In the early half of this year, it's competitors released devices that were extraordinary, something that we couldn't see from them for long time (e.g. Xpe Z, htc ONE and Lumia 920).
And no, I am not a Samsung fan-boy since I used both iOS (iPhone 4) and Android (Xperia P, V) for almost equal amount of time. But honestly? I think Sammy is heading in the wrong way these days. The image I used to perceive from Sammy's flagship models until now was that they are massacring spec phones that heightens the standards of all android phones. And this time? well..., (only AP-wise I'm talking) I just think it's better version of htc ONE or Optimus G Pro (which has not been released yet). I didn't care about their design and UI, or them not respecting copy-rights and I seriously doubt that there's a single person who buys SGS series for the sole reason of its brilliant design or TouchWiz. I did not expect them to come up with concepts like "Designed for Humans" or "Life Companion" and did not even want them to. Yet, these days, I feel like Samsung is stepping down from its throne of the hardware kingdom. Why... why... and why do they divide their "flagship" into different AP models without any hesitation?
This became a concern for me recently because my dad had an opportunity to buy either the Snap or Exy model. And since the Snap offered to at price that was $200 cheaper than the Exy, he obviously bought the Snap. HE is a Korean, so he has this Samsung pride(?). Whenever he meets up with his family or friends, he tells them how good his SGS 4 is (exactly like the commercials). As a son, I don't find this annoying at all and I really do like seeing my old man being proud of his product. And if this phone was for me, I would be quite happy to use any of these two models. But because of the given situations, I sometimes get a feeling that Samsung is deceiving their old followers (even if they do not intend to) and makes me little uncomfortable.
I know the Snap model performed better in GPU tests but if Samsung decides to update their Exy model with a firmware that allows MP processing, I think the result are going to be dramatically changed. The gap between these two models are quite severe in their CPU tests.
Would they be ditching their Snap users just like this??? I am indeed quite worried. It has not been a year yet after the release of their highly-acclaimed SGS 3, so maybe, they should have delayed the launching date of SGS 4 to implement Exy in all their products.
I guess my grumbles got horribly long in this thread and as I am a person who makes a lot of mistakes, please feel free to correct me
reanew said:
Hello
I just want to collect your guys' opinions regarding the Snap and Exy version of SGS4.
(This is why I am posting this thread on AT&T, Sprint and T-mobile forums, to gather as much as possible)
Since I have partial Korean background, I do catch up with reviews made by Korean forums and their users. (all of them got Exy)
The main problem that was pointed out was overheating problem. Is there any Snap user who's experiencing this issue? (apparently, you have to run hardcore processes for more than a hour)
I heard that Sammy chose to supply 70% of their SGS 4 to the globe with Snap and the reason was that I actually found out the overheating problem later during their development and could not manage to implement all of their productions with Exy. (Despite the fact that different regions have different frequencies. But even so?)
This made me to think that SGS 4 did not receive enough attention that it deserved from Sammy this time. Look, let's be generous and understand that the design belongs to everyone's preferences. In the early half of this year, it's competitors released devices that were extraordinary, something that we couldn't see from them for long time (e.g. Xpe Z, htc ONE and Lumia 920).
And no, I am not a Samsung fan-boy since I used both iOS (iPhone 4) and Android (Xperia P, V) for almost equal amount of time. But honestly? I think Sammy is heading in the wrong way these days. The image I used to perceive from Sammy's flagship models until now was that they are massacring spec phones that heightens the standards of all android phones. And this time? well..., (only AP-wise I'm talking) I just think it's better version of htc ONE or Optimus G Pro (which has not been released yet). I didn't care about their design and UI, or them not respecting copy-rights and I seriously doubt that there's a single person who buys SGS series for the sole reason of its brilliant design or TouchWiz. I did not expect them to come up with concepts like "Designed for Humans" or "Life Companion" and did not even want them to. Yet, these days, I feel like Samsung is stepping down from its throne of the hardware kingdom. Why... why... and why do they divide their "flagship" into different AP models without any hesitation?
This became a concern for me recently because my dad had an opportunity to buy either the Snap or Exy model. And since the Snap offered to at price that was $200 cheaper than the Exy, he obviously bought the Snap. HE is a Korean, so he has this Samsung pride(?). Whenever he meets up with his family or friends, he tells them how good his SGS 4 is (exactly like the commercials). As a son, I don't find this annoying at all and I really do like seeing my old man being proud of his product. And if this phone was for me, I would be quite happy to use any of these two models. But because of the given situations, I sometimes get a feeling that Samsung is deceiving their old followers (even if they do not intend to) and makes me little uncomfortable.
I know the Snap model performed better in GPU tests but if Samsung decides to update their Exy model with a firmware that allows MP processing, I think the result are going to be dramatically changed. The gap between these two models are quite severe in their CPU tests.
Would they be ditching their Snap users just like this??? I am indeed quite worried. It has not been a year yet after the release of their highly-acclaimed SGS 3, so maybe, they should have delayed the launching date of SGS 4 to implement Exy in all their products.
I guess my grumbles got horribly long in this thread and as I am a person who makes a lot of mistakes, please feel free to correct me
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My taughts about the exynos 8 headed snake and the 4 headed snapdragon is that folks like myself in the USA once again got the stick up our arses. I once pridicted in the SGS3 thread that samsung would do exactly same as with sgs3 which was releaseing a dualcore in usa and quad core in the UK. And they advertise big gs3 quadcore to hype their sale pitch while putting the stick up costomers behind because obviously 90% people dont look at specs of their phone. Well once again its same,gs4 quad in usa while octacore UK. The whole excitement for me was the octacore and their new "big little idea" which was claim to save power consumption etc.
Anyway I own the gs4 snapdragon model now simply because I would have had to stick to 2G speed if I had gotten the exynos model due to lack of band support for network in USA.
The whole overheating thing is not new,the exynos sgs3 and the old snapdragon htc one I had own all over heated despite different cpu when playing games or doing heavy tasks. I also experience it with the gs4 but only while playing games. I must say that it looks like Samsung did spend more time tweaking the governor behavior because on light tasks while multy tasking the cpu dont just jump to the highest frequency as frequently as in their other phones as to consume power unnecessary. But all 4 cores goes online too quickly but at least they go offline fast. So theirs still stuff to be tuned that can dramatically improve cpu efficiency and function.plus wance we get some custom kernels to tweak the voltages of the cpu and gpu it should stop the overheating. Most times over heating is also caused by the cpu frequency ramping up to the highest speed and staying their too long. The snapdragon processor is very fast I must say. Havent had a slowdown since I bought the phone and for stock,battery life is verygood.I could go threw more than a day with medium to light tasks.
Also another thing that Samsung corrected was the oversaturatedness of the screen color which was awfull in the previous sgs3,the brightness of the screen have also improved while in the sunlight compare to the gs3 screen. Thankfully their was Andrelux that released his Perseus kernel in the gs3 section to combat that color problem and everything else I mentioned above plus more. Hopefully their will also be some good dev in the gs4 section to improve user experience. Overall I find the gs4 a decent upgrade weather it have the snapdragon or exynos since samsung corrected and improve upon most things and some that I may have forgot to mention.
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In the side by side tests I did, the i9500 beat the M919 in every area including the GPU, screen response, UI smoothness, HSPA+ data speeds, etc. As far as the heat is concerned I have read an equal amount of complaints on both forums.
I did this with the ONE X Tegra. Wanted the better processor and got what I wanted. Butt suffered because of the USA Bands.
I WANT the 8 core S4 but here it goes again///// USA bands. So i got the TMO version this time.
Overheating was not a huge deal for me. But it does get quite hot when I'm doing lots of tasks.
I say this alll the time. I want the manufacturers to put out 1 device and then a Chipset with all the bands for all the carriers world wide. Then tell the carriers that they need to suck it up and sell the phone as designed and NO re working it for each carrier. A TRUE world phone.
I feel; the features on a device should be limited by the software per carrier, not the hardware.
Well...the 8 core Exynos is really just 2 quad core processors that don't run simultaneously..so I don't really see the big deal. Also, Exynos development absolutely sucks.
According to Engadget the Exynos bests the Snapdragon in about the same amount of tests as the Snapdragon beats the Exynos. A surprising result of their tests shows that the Snapdragon beats the big.LITTLE architecture in a video playback duration test by about 20%
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I did this with the ONE X Tegra. Wanted the better processor and got what I wanted. Butt suffered because of the USA Bands.
I WANT the 8 core S4 but here it goes again///// USA bands. So i got the TMO version this time.
Overheating was not a huge deal for me. But it does get quite hot when I'm doing lots of tasks.
I say this alll the time. I want the manufacturers to put out 1 device and then a Chipset with all the bands for all the carriers world wide. Then tell the carriers that they need to suck it up and sell the phone as designed and NO re working it for each carrier. A TRUE world phone.
I feel; the features on a device should be limited by the software per carrier, not the hardware.
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Thats true,the Hardware should be manufacture as it was advertise and intended. Most people would purchase a smartphone or other device specifically from samsung and do not know anything about the hardware background specifications. Only that "yaayy I have the GS4". Also the carriers such as tmobile for example leaves out the CPU specifics in the list of hardware specs. So its a easy advantage to just slap just about anything in a phone and sell it for same price in the big usa. The dual core gs3 sold for same price as the UK quadcore gs3,infact it sold better in usa if I rember.
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Well...the 8 core Exynos is really just 2 quad core processors that don't run simultaneously..so I don't really see the big deal. Also, Exynos development absolutely sucks.
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You should readup here which explains more about the 8 Core exynos.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39172453
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Thats true,the Hardware should be manufacture as it was advertise and intended. Most people would purchase a smartphone or other device specifically from samsung and do not know anything about the hardware background specifications. Only that "yaayy I have the GS4". Also the carriers such as tmobile for example leaves out the CPU specifics in the list of hardware specs. So its a easy advantage to just slap just about anything in a phone and sell it for same price in the big usa. The dual core gs3 sold for same price as the UK quadcore gs3,infact it sold better in usa if I rember.
You should readup here which explains more about the 8 Core exynos.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39172453
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Read up on the fact that it is currently not utilizing the 8 cores? Or the fact that if it does use the 8 cores it will not be optimized anyway so it will be basically worthless? Tell me what to read up on. Oh, it might make your benchmarks higher..sweet bro.
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Read up on the fact that it is currently not utilizing the 8 cores? Or the fact that if it does use the 8 cores it will not be optimized anyway so it will be basically worthless? Tell me what to read up on. Oh, it might make your benchmarks higher..sweet bro.
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Im not going into pointless arguments with you. You clearly have not looked at the linkd I refered you too because then you would not be asking all the useless questions youre asking me.
This is why their is always pointless arguments,simply because reading is not emphasize enough on XDA to educate people on the topic before they begin to criticise and pout senseless discussions.
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I personally have both and the i9500 runs laps around the M919. The M919 is laggy as a mofo, + the bloat (removable or not), + international will always see updates 1st. Once the Little.Big architecture is full understood it;s game over. We do have 8 cores and kernels are being worked on to enable all 8. The m919 will always have 1/2 that, period.
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I personally have both and the i9500 runs laps around the M919. The M919 is laggy as a mofo, + the bloat (removable or not), + international will always see updates 1st. Once the Little.Big architecture is full understood it;s game over. We do have 8 cores and kernels are being worked on to enable all 8. The m919 will always have 1/2 that, period.
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You sound like a broken record. I own the M919 running stock and I have yet to experience any lags you mention. For me this is not a competition as which phone is faster,true speed is important but its about the technology behind the makeing and how well it balance in terms of speed and battery. Especially battery performance ,which I think is the reason behind this so call big little architecture samsung have came up with. After all how big are they gonna keep makeing each generation of phones in order to squeeze in a bit more juice into a bigger size battery to run these so call faster more powerfull processors each time a new device comes out, thus the big little thing. If you think about it battery technology have not change since the crack of smartphones and maybe further back but the high demands for speedy more battery hungry chips are in demand each day as productivity increases.
Now I wish I had the octa core to see how it works if any improvement but sadly I dont. From my experience so far with the M919,its very fast cause all 4 core kicks in immediately wether its a small or big task(mean it waste battery),it gets warm to hot too quick while playing games (battery waste again) but the graphics are excellent. Theirs lots of room for improvement on the processor such as a custom kernel to undervolt and regulate the cores to work more efficiently. I randomly left my phone ideling for 24hours and few hours connected to wifi at home and I had a 15% battery drain with about 7mins of use. I had nothing syncing. I think that was good but also can improve with kernel tweaks wance available.
Take note the amount of info I have given you on one device. I didn't just blahh out "m919 is garbage because its slow and I9500 is the fastest **** on the block" unless people just wanna look at benchmarks daily and say "I feel so proud my phone is the fastest ****". It maybe faster yes but right now the software can only function as fast as it was optomize to be if you understand. And I dont know where you get your intell from to pridict product updates and kernel development,im sure their will be kernels and updates available as same with older phones. No one is left out of anything.
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My intel ? seriously bro ? International versions always get updates 1st because the carriers don't have to add all their crap. i have used both in real world environment and the M919 lags on the accuweather live wallpaper from the S3. It's not a comparison of benchmarks, m919 is laggy. You don't have to get all bent because I provided a factual analysis......
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My intel ? seriously bro ? International versions always get updates 1st because the carriers don't have to add all their crap. i have used both in real world environment and the M919 lags on the accuweather live wallpaper from the S3. It's not a comparison of benchmarks, m919 is laggy. You don't have to get all bent because I provided a factual analysis......
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True that if youre waiting on the carrier to release an update its a whole new story but if youre here on xda or aware of the community then you know thats not a problem.
Have you ever taught the Accuweather was optomize N design to run on the S3 flawless. I couldent evin find that wallpaper existance on the playstore.So its prob garbage cause theirs other accuweather live wallpaper available their that works fine.
Im currently running the "Ditalix live wallpaper" which was design for highend devices like the Galaxy S4 and GS3 to look beautiful and run flawless like silk and uses up the largest amount of memory I have ever seen for a wallpaper 256mb in the background,yet no lags. if you were to read the reviews for it on the playstore you would notice it indeed does not work on just any device. So if that can run so good on the M919 I dont see why a low rated Accuweather wallpaper for the old gs3 cannot unless like I said,it was specifically optomize for the gs3 device screen etc. Low fps + low resolution scenario. Anything will lag and look crappy with that case.
This is why prople are misleaded sometimes because a few people screwup and they wisper something is not good cause they had such a terrible experience when its not the device fault.
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Well when you actually have both in hand, your input will be more valuable. It's not just the live wallpaper from the G2 (that's actually where it originates) but simple menu actions, retuning to the home screen, etc. You can say all you want, but without proof from both sides if is YOU that is the broken record. Nobody said the M919 was a terrible experience either, I'm not bashing the device. This thread is for comparisons against the i9500 octa, to which I see significant differences. Are they monumental? No. Do they exist? Yes. For people where the price is close enough to have a choice, this may actually help them make a better, educated decision based of real world experience. I was in the market for either the M919 or i9500 and snagged the octa for the same price I would have paid for the T-Mobile version. I get no LTE in my area and the HSPA+ is plenty for me, so it was an easy choice. About the updates you seem to be missing key information, for carrier branded units the updates have to be leaked, tweaked, modified and ripped from other models 1st if you don't want to wait. International users will always see these 1st as they roll out from Samsung directly.
Another day, another ****-measuring contest...
They're both top-tier devices. There are only a handful of comparable handsets, and the only ones I can think of that're clearly more powerful are the (China-only) Medfield-core Lenovo K-series.
The Exynos will probably be the winner between i9500/i9505, WHEN/IF the driver issues are worked out, but till then the best device is whichever one's in your hand.
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Well when you actually have both in hand, your input will be more valuable. It's not just the live wallpaper from the G2 (that's actually where it originates) but simple menu actions, retuning to the home screen, etc. You can say all you want, but without proof from both sides if is YOU that is the broken record. Nobody said the M919 was a terrible experience either, I'm not bashing the device. This thread is for comparisons against the i9500 octa, to which I see significant differences. Are they monumental? No. Do they exist? Yes. For people where the price is close enough to have a choice, this may actually help them make a better, educated decision based of real world experience. I was in the market for either the M919 or i9500 and snagged the octa for the same price I would have paid for the T-Mobile version. I get no LTE in my area and the HSPA+ is plenty for me, so it was an easy choice. About the updates you seem to be missing key information, for carrier branded units the updates have to be leaked, tweaked, modified and ripped from other models 1st if you don't want to wait. International users will always see these 1st as they roll out from Samsung directly.
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Now you seem to be makeing more sense and posting a proper comment so people can actually make an intelligent decision. Unlike your first 2 posts.
Youre lucky to have good hsdpa+ in your area running I9500 cause when I had the international galaxy s3 tmobile had just made the transition over to support international bandwith for hsdpa+ and the speed and signal was terrible in my area. Had to use 2g speeds. Thats the reason I did not purchase the international model of the galaxy s4 this round,i dont care for lte,3G speed or 4G which I now have would do it for me. Im dont regret my purchase of the M919 cause so far my experience is good.
The only thing I could say to folks looking to buy in the USA and leaning towards the M919 is if possible stay away from tmobile and buy it non carrier branded from a reputable source if the price is right. Tmobile sells the phone at full price if you wanna avoid the monthly down payment but despite buying it at full price and already haveing a contract with them, they sell you it with a contract plus new number as part of the whole deal which is totally ridiculous. Then u have to go threw the idiotic process of canceling it wance u receive your device.
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